YouTube Comments *FIXED* This RANGE ROVER No Start Condition
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- A great deal on a Range Rover could turn out to be a bad deal for your family. My friend bought this very nice 2015 Range Rover Supercharged and within a week it decided that it was going to remain parked in his driveway forever.
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Commenters aren’t always right but there absolutely is value in group knowledge. Glad you guys got it fixed man. You’re a heck of a friend to others JR.
Yup time to sell it
Better just don't one period! So poor.
@@Andy-pf7memakes absolutely no sense
U r correct. But may also just getting you in the right direction. Which is a huge help too. 😂😂
It also shows the quality of the people who watch!!
Yeah from factory its a stud, they literally fall off eventually lol. The fix is to install a nutsert. Glad ya'll got it fixed! FWIW listening to it it sounds like it needs guides/tensioners. Doesn't sound great. If no timing codes it's the perfect time to perform the "Zip tie method" - which is just taking off the crank pulley, lower and upper timing covers, and replacing the guides/tensioners. No screwing with timing. 10-14.5 (2015MY) had guides with no steel pin where the tensioner would eat into the aluminium guide.
Ahh, good call!!
You are the one who diagnosed it last video, congrats
I saw the zip tie method done on a Honda Odyssey using dollar store zip ties. Bloody Brilliant.
Probably should have load tested and ohm tested that stud
@@knightride9635Cheers 🎉
"needs hood struts"
I am convinced hood struts fail whenever JR gets near them. Only logical explanation.
This reminds me when Auto Auction Rebuilds had the Kia Forte had some mysterious issue. When he and Monkey Wrench Mike decided to try several fixes they started with something the UA-cam comments suggested. The comments were right when they said to check the catalytic converters and it turned to be they were clogged.
The most expensive car you can buy is a cheap Range Rover😂
I'd add some dielectric grease to those re-assembled grounds but otherwise should be all set.
My surefire prediction for 2024: this vehicle will generate a lot more content 🙂
Hell yeah! Range Rovers are quirky as hell, but man I love them! Glad you got it fixed.
Anytime you clean the ground points with a wire brush, as you did, spray it with a corrosion preventative (purple sticky stuff) like you use on your battery terminals or it will corrode again. Any ground point exposed to the elements should be sprsyed when doing maintenance. 😉
Or primer/paint
Can you put dielectric grease on the grounds to prevent corrosion?
@@jefferson88888that’s what my dad does
Note to self, NEVER buy a Range Rover without the bumper to bumper warranty. LOL Already knew that from watching Doug DeMuro's adventures.
As always, love the "who knows what JR will get into today?" content. Haha.
I thibk you nailed it in the first 1/2 of your first sentence.
Thanks to hoovie I'll never buy a range rover, bmw, Bentley, or rolls royce.
Do you honestly think the warranty would take care of you the way it did Doug?
And hence there are very few Ranges for sale these days and they (Car Max) has generally tightened up their warranty offerings (although I still buy in to them depending on the car I'm buying from CM)
@@johnnysouza5601 I don't know about BMW in general they're okay but service costs are more expensive - just know what / if any major issues for the model and year of the vehicle - the same goes for just about every make/model. There's a reason why wealthy people if they buy one of these usually do so as new compared to the cars they generally daily drive being a couple year old Toyota or Lexus product which they'll drive till the wheels fall off ;-)
Us old timers would tell you that once the cigarette lighter is pressed in, it should heat and when up to temp, it should "release" and pop out to the "stored position". The signal that the lighter is ready for use!!
Without wading through all of the comments... :) Check the timing chains. It's sounding pretty noisy and the tensioners on these are known to fail. I have a 2013 that's still pretty quiet, but, I'm going to do them anyway. If you take off the oil fill cap, you can see the timing chain. Take a screw driver and push on it. There should be little to no slack. If there is, the tensioners are bad and will need to be replaced before it skips time. Cheers, mate.
Good fix John. I briefly owned a 2006 Mercedes ML350 and when I got it I changed both the batteries and cleaned every ground and electrical connection on it and they were all corroded, that's a big part of what takes down these older luxury cars.
It not the norm for a youtuber to actually pay attention to comments, especially for problem solving. Kudos to you !
Thanks for taking the time to properly diagnose & repair the problem, most American independent shops just dont seem to have the mental ability to do it, as simple as it is.. I think thats why so many European cars have such a bad rep in the states, its all down to the mentality of the shops.. For us Europeans, all this stuff is basic knowledge, but over there it seems that 80% of independents only learn the home manufacturers, with the basic, outdated tech... Theres a lot to be said for basic, old school engineering, but we`ve moved on now, & your diagnostic knowledge needs to keep up!
For the lighter, it pushes in and when it reaches temperture it will pop out. It should be tested to make sure it works.
5:00 Absolutely right about the bling ring having nothing to do with the button, since the multiple proximity antennas are pretty common on modern keyless cars
One thing to note is that some vehicles (not sure if all do), but FCA ones in particular will have backup antennas at the button, so when the fob battery dies, you can start the car by touching the key to the button; the bling ring shouldn't affect that at least.
Yep! Nissans have this common issue with something coming loose and that’s the magical ‘fix’ lol
what SVR were you driving. SVR is much faster than that you got it twisted up
Land Rover. Turning owners into mechanics for over 70 years.
So it’s got a coolant leak, a power steering fluid leak, an oil leak, the heated windscreen doesn’t work and it needs tyres.
Sounds about right for a Range Rover.
And a couple bushings...but yeah sounds normal.
25:30 I wonder if the dealer would have started throwing parts at it and charged for all of them then cleaned the ground to get it running?
The aux battery is not for starting in LRs it supplies all the electronics to keep running when engine off and main battery does all the starting. Should also be a ECO button usually near the height and terrain controls to disable stop/start.
But but but JR said it is, and he is never wrong. About anything. Ever.
Rule 1. JR is never wrong.
Rule 2. If he is wrong, see Rule 1.
Gotta put some Fluid Film on that ground ala Eric O.!
JR I wish your buds buy more interesting cars for you to showcase on the channel it’s great content when you figure out all the quirky problems
I love fun fixes like this 💯
@@WatchJRGoand what's the problem ?Ground wire on left side of chassis?? No way..
Nice taking it to the extreme to rule out all. You even figured out the tpms. Great job!
Thanks! 🙏
JR to the rescue again, fixing a friends car. The world needs more good men like JR. Will Jag/LR ever improve their quality?
Keyless start has been common on even lowly Chryslers for well over a decade now and there's car people who STILL don't understand it?
Reminds me of all those people who pull the start button out of the dash on older Mercedes/Chrysler cars like my '12 Jeep Grand Cherokee and shove the key into the dash as they "don't like the button". Usually they're also people with 15 pounds of keys hanging off their keychain too. 🙄
After decades of helping others when *they call for help *and not* taking the advice (of not purchasing the biggest piece of crap in automotive history) and they having the means to pay a shop to fix their things, I have learned to suggest take it to a shop and leave it them to their own demise (example this friend buys the biggest unreliable over priced piece of crap in automotive history and can’t or won’t invest into properly maintaining it).
Why did I think of the Ford 6.0 Powerstroke?
Beautiful car with beautiful problems. Will we see it again for a different issue? I say yes
You usually need to program batteries in those
Love that you figured it out. Now we need to see the brakes and radiator replacement on this beast!
I figured it would be that stupid bedazzled ring around the start/stop button lol. I've seen those cause no start issues
I came for hood struts and you sir delivered!!!
I still wouldn't block the driveway with it for a while. She's going to have to prove herself on the street for at least a week.
It's a real pickle... A lot UA-camrs think that the people in the comments are idiots so they get ignored and a lot of UA-cam Viewers think that the UA-camr is a know it all and he won't take advice from the comment section. We all have a roll to play. 😂🤣
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Chalk one up for chat 💯
Showing my age, when you push the lighter all the way in it engages the element to get hot and it pops back out after it gets to temp, mid push is resting/holding spot..
Keep an eye on the plastic coolant pipes under the intake and on the back of the motor. They pop and you'll lose the motor. Great content!
just got rid of my 16 RR SC, a $4200 warranty paid over 25k in claims on that car. Nothing too major even went, most costs came from extremely high parts and labor cost, even when compared to my BMW M6
I saw and read that comment about the wheel arch ground, thanks for that.
I am from the UK I had a Fiat Uno it had one earth block on the inner wing so if it was getting charging problems that was the key point to look at .
It's not the button, but what it's connected to! 🙂
Big expensive cars have big expensive problems. I learned this the hard way and make sure to never get out over my skis again. (cheap cars you can beat on without worry are more fun anyways)
Right Rear directional tire is mounted backwards
If you still have starting problems, I suggest checking the starter solenoid. Bad earths can cause poor solenoid activation which then causes arcing and contamination of the contactors.
The existence of a bad earth effecting starting can be checked by running a jump lead from the battery -ve terminal to the starter motor body or as close as you can get on the engine.
Great video!! Great seeing JR troubleshooting it. I own 2 L405s and there are always small issues that plague these things… when they run, there’s nothing like them.
A friend had similar problems with a Range Rover. After long searches, I found a rat nestling in the dashboard that is eating the electrical installation.
Had the same problem with my wife's Jazz. Suddenly started having intermittent starting problems. Suspected battery. Bought new one and charged old one off the car. New one was bad so I put old one back on to get back to shop. Went home with second new battery. When home I took off the battery earth strap...corrosion between bolt and body captive nut. Put it all back and tested battery resting and charging. Green observation light now back on old battery. No problems since.
Moral of story...check the earthing points first...even if they look good. If your battery isn't getting a full charge with the engine off it soon drops off cranking capacity if you load it with central locking or electric window operation etc
125k Range Rover... he's a brave man!
Good call/guess on the secondary battery... I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee the HATED the "auto start/stop" and would just die. After a few tries, I changed that battery and haven't had a problem since.
The shop is looking great! I would imagine though with a WORKBENCH you could organize your smaller bits first and then store them away ;-) (obligatory workbench comment / razzing here)....
I know all about 2 footed braking coming up driving 40s to 60s cars😂 My Dart I put a aftermarket 9800 Thermo Quad on it, I had the choke adjustment just right so one pump and start and no bogging when first driving away. Spread bore with easy to adjust electric choke for the win when I was daily driving it.
Any updates on your GM converted Rolls Royce? I just bought a 1980 GM converted Shadow! Love it! Brakes are GM. Hydraulic leveling gone! Thought about yours throughout the purchase/delivery!
Yeah, what's up with that?
Planning on bringing it over soon, it's at Eric's 🍻
Happy New Year
Happy New Year!
That vacuum pump has been leaking on every JLR 5.0 I've ever seen. It's common enough that RKX sell a rebuild kit. There's 2 types and that Range Rover will be the later type.
If you recheck the fuse bus that previously was 3v it would be neat if back to 12v. I would think that proves a fix.
Good looking Range Rover 🤩
Good analysis...great result!!!
A quick question since you’re doing a great job sealing up your new shop, with starting and stopping the engine so many times do you have sensors for CO and CO2. Stay safe and Happy New Year.
Stop starts worse thing ever invented
from tractors to trucks to minivans… bad grounds are the bane of my existence.
Something to think about ... I've gotten into the habit of putting a light coat of dielectric grease on any electrical connection as it goes back together. Helps keep connections clean and dry.
I always have to jump to my volume control when your videos start. There ought to be an agreement about the appropriate volume of UA-cam videos. Mostly it's the intros, including your "Today on...", that blast me out of my seat.
I don’t think it’ll be the radiator but rather the plastic crossover pipe. Supercharger needs to come off, and make sure to replace with aluminum parts! Good luck!
With all the faults they have, at least the thieves won't get very far .
When you found the trouble ground point I was half-expecting to hear "There's your problem, lady!"
Few cars worse than a used Range Rover. Such beautiful vehicles but such massive money pits.
I never understood how a car mfg cant get it right or stops mfg a good model. I mean if theres problems, fix it in the next model...right?
It might work but there's a protectant used on amateur radio antenna element and coaxial connection points that inhibites corrosion. Just an idea. Either that or Deoxit
Hi uk Range Rover sport owner here there is also a main earth behind the wheel liner front right which is connected to the negative in the engine bay, the starter and battery on a sport, just a thought it might help
Replace all the plastic coolant parts on the engine.
Happy New Year John. Here's hoping that 2024 is the best year so far for you and yours!
Tighten all bolts that maybe loose ! Leaks maybe caused by uptight bolts .
Quick trip to Mexico for a test drive...
Good Evening John Ross and Happy New Years Day to you
Where were you connected when you were reading 3V before? I was under the impression you were seeing 12V on some fuses but 3V on others. If you used the same ground both times, then the voltage drop was in the power side somewhere - like a bad relay. Not the ground.
You and hood struts !! Your pet peeve !!! No car gets bye you without new struts !!
That bejeweled starter button has crystals interfering with the communication to the computer
Careful with the Chinese lighter. Had one in my 67 Nova that melted out of the dash as I was driving down the road. I smelled smoke and pulled over. Got out, popped the hood and walked all around the car but didn't smell or see any smoke. Got back in and it was just oozing out of the dash. Pulled the power wire. Ended up screwing the knob to a wine cork and put it back in the dash hole. I don't smoke, so didn't need a working lighter.
Happy New Year John Ross!
I learned my small jump pack that works so well might be overloading the voltage. Not good.
Talk about unnecessary overcomplication of so many systems in modern cars. It's like the engineers keep doing it to keep from being laid off. Although bad grounds are pretty common in all cars.
This Tata Rover will bring lots of fun for people who have money and time.
Wait until the next day won't start 😂
Certain vehicles, those things will certainly mess with it. Some have the transponder pickup directly in the button like older keyless Honda pilots.
I hope your buddy didnt pay alot for this car. Should just trade it back in. Although he will probably take a massive hit if the dealer doesn't want it back.
I’m a 30yr dealer Honda tech and that has and will cause a Honda to not start. The Start/Stop switch is an antenna for starting only. All the other antennas you talked about are for keyless entry only.
It sure isn't on this, I even posted proof that it's simply two wires to the BCM to command start. 🍻
While the Range Rover is complex. It’s no BMW in stupidity. I guess I am a glutton for punishment but I like these! In diesel tdv6 trim!
Not technically true that the button is only a button on all cars. My Toyotas have the backup reader for the key as part of the start stop button that will read the key if the battery dies. Other cars like your ford have a place in the console to put the key for that purpose. Not sure if the bedazzle ring would effect my Toyota system but it could. Definitely not as bad as doing it on a chip key car. Though. Great video.
Might also want to think about putting some conductive grease on those grounds. "MIGHT" keep corrosion away a little longer that way?
You’re a good friend. Happy NewYear🎉
Happy New Year from Cape Coral Florida 😎
buying a range rover is like willingly moving into an HOA lol why ppl still do both is crazy smh
Look for the differential and transfer case to fail… creaks are usually from one or the other…
On VW / Audi on start stop vehicles a new battery must be coded when replaced. You mentioned a battery was just replaced. I did not get through the entire video so if it was mentioned I apologize.
Dielectric Grease/Vaseline ìs ALWAYS your friend after cleaning connections!
Starter sounds like my Snapper rider!
10:55 A little "squirrel" moment there JR?
ok, but if you are at all concerned about the lighter burning the Camaro down, just unhook it from the power. Or, if you want it to work, have it powered on a hidden switch so you can use it when needed. I don't clock you or many you hang with as smokers, so unsure why you need a functional lighter.
I love Range Rovers