My wife bought me one of these for my birthday last month. In my experience so far, the compatibility is essentially 100%. I would have never thought this possible. I really can't say enough good things about this product. Even hard to emulate titles like Mega Man X3 and Super Mario RPG run beautifully. I even snagged the Star Fox 2 rom that was on the SNES classic console If you want to check out how well they did eliminating slowdown, play Gradius III. The original cart had so much slowdown, it dampened the entire experience
5:55 the SNES has a sound chip made by Sony, which in theory is capable of playing sound in CD Quality. Due to limited space on the cartridges, they couldn't go all in tho. Safe space is no problem with the FxPak Pro anymore.
Cartridge space was a problem, but the biggest problem was that the DSP only had access to 64k of RAM, and that RAM was also used for the sound driver and sound effects, so you're looking to about 24k of buffer data to get constantly filled by the CPU. 44.1KHz/16-bit (CD Red Book) audio requires at least 690Kbps or 86KB/s to play. In theory, the DSP could play Red Book audio, but the SPC CPU was too underpowered to do so.
It still has a few bumps to fix. Some games like SMRPG suffers from inaccurate slowdowns. However, it's still an amazing product. You'll save money in the long run by not hunting down expensive games.
I know, right? For someone that didn't grow up with this console, this is such a great tool to visit it for the first time. You've got everything you need.
And some games are in-hooks compabilities issues like Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest who flicking if you have in-hooks on. Despite that, the FXPak Pro is really good. Edit: I can't play my hacked version of BS-Zelda 1.
The MSU1 music... it's pretty cool but those are completely different instruments and sound nothing like the originals. So better? Maybe. But too inaccurate for my taste.
I’d play Castlevania with the enhanced music, but I wouldn’t play any FF games, and certainly not Chrono Trigger. I’m sure if you grew up with Castlevania, you’d have the opposite opinion. It’s just the nostalgia factor. Quality will never overcome nostalgia.
Same. Little awkward hearing some John Williams or Hans Zimmer type with their orchestra while Chrono is just trying to feed his damn cat. Completely tonally off, nostalgia aside.
Years later it still has problems with save states. It's a gamble once you reach a critical point in a game whether you chance saving your state in a game with the FX pack Pro. It can crash the whole game. Try it with Soldiers of Fortune. Great game to be able to save that state but crashes it every time. I've tried this with original snes and analog. Almost perfect but not just there. I hope they will come out with one more firmware update to help this issue.
It's the same sort of situation with the Mega Everdrive. I've always wanted to beat Battletoads & Double Dragon on the Genesis, but I wanted to practice with the save states. Save states don't work with that particular game, however, there are some rom hacks such as the "arcade hits restored" one that WILL work with a save state, but adding those hits makes the game slow down and skip a frame or two. Super annoying. Save states also seem to cause audio issues in pretty much every game as well. You'd save in level 1, and you wouldn't get audio back until level 2. Super annoying, but still... it's just nice to be able to have this kind of thing on real hardware.
Oh yes the audio thing. At least with the Gen or MD you have the option to get the Mega SD instead of the Ever Drive. The only flaw I've found with Mega SD is that the CD audio from Sega CD games starts to slow down or crackle the longer you play. You have to give it a break every hour or so.@@travisbowmanmusic
@@ChrisEbz The only fault with the Mega SD that I've notices is with playing Sega CD games that use CD audio for the sound track. The music will start to slow down and distort at times. This could be a result of the chips getting hot but I haven't put that much effort in figuring it out.
To me, it’s hard to tell, wether it’s worth it. There are two different situations, where the FX Pack Pro might be worth it. One is piracy, justified with “Just want to play the game” or “collector’s prices being too high. The other one might be being a collector and using this device to prolong the lifespan of the cartridges. Well, a collector at this point would be everybody who still has the original games. Prices will continue to go up for pretty much everything and at some point, playing those games will be equal to gambling. Playing games like Chrono Trigger already is just that. So yea, I would argue, the asking price for this cartridge will continue to be more and more fair. That being said: This ignores the price for the console. I got the FX Pak Pro together with a Super NT, which was cheaper than getting a SNES, getting it restored , modded and buying a proper upscaler. And still, comparing this to the use I get out of a Mister FPGA makes the FX Pak Pro a questionable expense. I did. go for it and If it wasn’t for the fact, that the Super NT enables me to dump the games, when using the jailbreak firmware for it on top of playing the games.
I was going to buy one but the availability is terrible. I ended up buying a sd2snes off aliexpress for around $180AUD. Has the Spartan FPGA and I was able to update it to the latest 1.11.0 firmware, plays every game i throw at it including gameboy.
You'll need to load it up with roms. You can find them on the Internet. I believe it will come with the software needed to run pre installed. You can check the downloads page on Stone Age Gamer or Krikzz's website
Kudos to those who put the work into making these things. While the price might make sense considering the effort behind it, it's a long way away from the production cost. That makes it tougher to swallow, and honestly, those that are most into vintage gaming would likely rather buy the real cartridges if they don't already have them. In the end, this puts the product in a weird spot, and I question the market strategy and if it's really very profitable. I could be wrong, but I doubt they're gonna see my money at least. I've wanted to get into SNES for a while, since I never had one myself, and a multicart thing might have been a factor if it had been relatively cheap. But it isn't. Not this cart, and not the others. I think I'd rather pay a bit less and see if the experience warrants spending more on it. Also, if you want to own the games legally, you still have to buy the carts anyway. That leaves only the convenience of not having to swap carts.
Have you seen the prices on some of the most popular/desirable games? One copy of chrono trigger is more than the cost of this flash cart. You could easily spend over $1000 building a collection of retail carts for the SNES. Not to mention, these cartridges are really aging at this point.
Looks good, I yearn to get all my 16 bit retro consoles back, gotta be honest I would like the original cartridges, part of the joy of retro for me is the memories, and I feel getting the original games is a 1:1 expereince, it might cost a lot more, but honestly, there are probably only about 15 games on the megadrive and snes I really fondly recall playing or owning and I could buy a few a year and not notice it. ATM I am thinking. I don't care about better or faster anything, I care about replicating the old experince even down to using an OLD TV with RF cable. Super Mario Kart Contra III SF2, Turbo, Super Un Squadron Another World (Out of this world - snes music rocked!) Dragons Lair FZero StarFox And maybe about 8 or so others. MegaDrive list was a bit bigger as I had that console 2 years prior and I mostly hammered SMK & SF2 on the snes.
I have an X5 model and love it. However, there are some chip enhanced games I would like to play. I do think the price for the FX Pak is a little too high. Should be $100-$150 tops.
I agree that it is a bit expensive, but this is likely the best flash cart for the SNES that we will ever get. It's a one time purchase that will probably last you forever.
Sounds like you got a cheaper Chinese clone of the Everdrive. If it works for you, then that's awesome, man! I prefer the Everdrive for the features and support. Firmware updates, etc. Krikzz continues to support his hardware, and I don't mind paying extra for that.
The mixing of the audio on this video is pretty poor. I'm at 100% maxxed in my mixer and on the video player itself, and I'd put the volume at around 50% of what it should be. Loud is good. You want your audio to be unbearably loud at 100%, because that's the point of 100% audio. You don't want 100% audio to be your *personal* desired audio level. If I switch from this video to something else, it's going to blow my speakers up.
As I stated in the video, one loose copy of Chrono Trigger costs as much as this flash cart. No need to apologize, if it's not for you, then it's not for you! There are several others that can see the value in this too though. 🙂
Yes it is, actually. I'm playing the games on my Super Nintendo. As far as the console is concerned, these are the real games being played here. This has been a subject of debate for a while, and I honestly don't understand why people like you have such a difficult time with what other people do with their money. Could I emulate this on my PC? Yes. Could I get a Mister and just use that? Yes. But I choose to use this flash cart because of the features it offers. It's a one time fee to get the best flash cart for this system. At the end of the day, it's about options. I choose to use this flash cart, and you choose emulation. Both are fine. If you aren't okay with that, then I don't know what to tell you, man.
@@charlesrayshisleriii My point is that $224 is a lot of money. I hope this helps you understand my very simple point, Charles. Let me know if you need me to elucidate it any further.
For me 94 dollars : SD2SNES CHINA version with (ALTERA CYCLONE 4 and CORTEX M3 - NXP 1756) . copy of krikz catridge work great all games SNES and gameboy . MAJ officiel FXPACK PRO KRIKZ 1.11.0 ok with this
I've never had any experience with that Chinese clone... but I'd wager that it doesn't support firmware updates or any of the extra features like running fastrom games, CD audio games, or any hacked games. But hey, if it works for you, then I say more power to ya!
Yes , given that the components of my china are identical to fx pack pro, everything works identically. Official krikz update + msu1 + sa1 + save game etc etc
My wife bought me one of these for my birthday last month. In my experience so far, the compatibility is essentially 100%. I would have never thought this possible. I really can't say enough good things about this product. Even hard to emulate titles like Mega Man X3 and Super Mario RPG run beautifully. I even snagged the Star Fox 2 rom that was on the SNES classic console
If you want to check out how well they did eliminating slowdown, play Gradius III. The original cart had so much slowdown, it dampened the entire experience
U need to keep tht women safe ❤ lucky guy
@@avi-jk7wv you bet, my guy. She's not much of a gamer herself, outside of Mario, Kirby or puzzle games, but she enjoys watching me play RPGs.
5:55 the SNES has a sound chip made by Sony, which in theory is capable of playing sound in CD Quality. Due to limited space on the cartridges, they couldn't go all in tho. Safe space is no problem with the FxPak Pro anymore.
Cartridge space was a problem, but the biggest problem was that the DSP only had access to 64k of RAM, and that RAM was also used for the sound driver and sound effects, so you're looking to about 24k of buffer data to get constantly filled by the CPU. 44.1KHz/16-bit (CD Red Book) audio requires at least 690Kbps or 86KB/s to play. In theory, the DSP could play Red Book audio, but the SPC CPU was too underpowered to do so.
The difference in the super Castlevania Music is pretty spectacular. I didn’t think it would be that dramatic. ✊💫🏆
Actually it fails
This is a _flash cart._ "Everdrive" is a branded name created by Krikzz for certain flash carts in his line, just like "SD2SNES", and "FX Pak Pro".
So worth it I brought everything you showed twice 😂
It still has a few bumps to fix. Some games like SMRPG suffers from inaccurate slowdowns.
However, it's still an amazing product. You'll save money in the long run by not hunting down expensive games.
I know, right? For someone that didn't grow up with this console, this is such a great tool to visit it for the first time. You've got everything you need.
Look up fast rom hacks! They haven't been made for every game, but a lot of games that experience slowdowns can be patched to fix this :)
And some games are in-hooks compabilities issues like Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest who flicking if you have in-hooks on. Despite that, the FXPak Pro is really good.
Edit: I can't play my hacked version of BS-Zelda 1.
The MSU1 music... it's pretty cool but those are completely different instruments and sound nothing like the originals. So better? Maybe. But too inaccurate for my taste.
I’d play Castlevania with the enhanced music, but I wouldn’t play any FF games, and certainly not Chrono Trigger.
I’m sure if you grew up with Castlevania, you’d have the opposite opinion. It’s just the nostalgia factor. Quality will never overcome nostalgia.
Same. Little awkward hearing some John Williams or Hans Zimmer type with their orchestra while Chrono is just trying to feed his damn cat. Completely tonally off, nostalgia aside.
If you think 300$ is a lot, go buy EarthBound
Thanks for SNES content 🏆✊
Years later it still has problems with save states. It's a gamble once you reach a critical point in a game whether you chance saving your state in a game with the FX pack Pro. It can crash the whole game. Try it with Soldiers of Fortune. Great game to be able to save that state but crashes it every time. I've tried this with original snes and analog. Almost perfect but not just there. I hope they will come out with one more firmware update to help this issue.
It's the same sort of situation with the Mega Everdrive. I've always wanted to beat Battletoads & Double Dragon on the Genesis, but I wanted to practice with the save states. Save states don't work with that particular game, however, there are some rom hacks such as the "arcade hits restored" one that WILL work with a save state, but adding those hits makes the game slow down and skip a frame or two. Super annoying.
Save states also seem to cause audio issues in pretty much every game as well. You'd save in level 1, and you wouldn't get audio back until level 2. Super annoying, but still... it's just nice to be able to have this kind of thing on real hardware.
Oh yes the audio thing. At least with the Gen or MD you have the option to get the Mega SD instead of the Ever Drive. The only flaw I've found with Mega SD is that the CD audio from Sega CD games starts to slow down or crackle the longer you play. You have to give it a break every hour or so.@@travisbowmanmusic
If I'm playing on original hardware, I'm not using Save States. If I want to practice with Save States, I'll use my MiSTer.
@@carlaustin1093So does the Mega SD seem to be overheating or chips getting hot maybe? Curious as I'm going for a genesis cart after thr FXpak.
@@ChrisEbz The only fault with the Mega SD that I've notices is with playing Sega CD games that use CD audio for the sound track. The music will start to slow down and distort at times. This could be a result of the chips getting hot but I haven't put that much effort in figuring it out.
What is the controller and receiver you are using?
This is a 2.4GHz controller from 8BitDo!
To me, it’s hard to tell, wether it’s worth it. There are two different situations, where the FX Pack Pro might be worth it. One is piracy, justified with “Just want to play the game” or “collector’s prices being too high. The other one might be being a collector and using this device to prolong the lifespan of the cartridges. Well, a collector at this point would be everybody who still has the original games. Prices will continue to go up for pretty much everything and at some point, playing those games will be equal to gambling. Playing games like Chrono Trigger already is just that. So yea, I would argue, the asking price for this cartridge will continue to be more and more fair.
That being said: This ignores the price for the console. I got the FX Pak Pro together with a Super NT, which was cheaper than getting a SNES, getting it restored , modded and buying a proper upscaler. And still, comparing this to the use I get out of a Mister FPGA makes the FX Pak Pro a questionable expense. I did. go for it and If it wasn’t for the fact, that the Super NT enables me to dump the games, when using the jailbreak firmware for it on top of playing the games.
Would it play MegaMan X3? It has a special chip set Cx4 for 3D vector
I was going to buy one but the availability is terrible. I ended up buying a sd2snes off aliexpress for around $180AUD. Has the Spartan FPGA and I was able to update it to the latest 1.11.0 firmware, plays every game i throw at it including gameboy.
Do you need to uodate or download stuff on this or can you just put it in the snes after unpacking it right out of the box?
You'll need to load it up with roms. You can find them on the Internet. I believe it will come with the software needed to run pre installed. You can check the downloads page on Stone Age Gamer or Krikzz's website
I have one of these and The fact i can play MSU 1 SNES enhanced roms is worth the price of admission alone.
i need a tutorial für the super gameboy 2 on fx pro. i dont understand what i should do
I been working hard saving my pennies for over a month now and it looks like I might be able to get it in about a week if everything works out.
You won't regret it! It's the last SNES cart you'll ever need.
Who made the music on the games that are enhanced by the MSU chip?
That's a good question that I don't have the answer to. I would imagine that it's on a game by game basis.
Pretty cool little device, I bet you could fit close to the whole library of games on one of those SD cards
The entire library several times over actually.
And the entire GB library
The entire SNES library is less than a gigabyte compressed.
Does this cartridge work on the Retron 5 HD gaming console?
I don't believe it does.
@@travisbowmanmusic Thanks for the quick response
Kudos to those who put the work into making these things. While the price might make sense considering the effort behind it, it's a long way away from the production cost. That makes it tougher to swallow, and honestly, those that are most into vintage gaming would likely rather buy the real cartridges if they don't already have them. In the end, this puts the product in a weird spot, and I question the market strategy and if it's really very profitable. I could be wrong, but I doubt they're gonna see my money at least. I've wanted to get into SNES for a while, since I never had one myself, and a multicart thing might have been a factor if it had been relatively cheap. But it isn't. Not this cart, and not the others. I think I'd rather pay a bit less and see if the experience warrants spending more on it. Also, if you want to own the games legally, you still have to buy the carts anyway. That leaves only the convenience of not having to swap carts.
Have you seen the prices on some of the most popular/desirable games? One copy of chrono trigger is more than the cost of this flash cart. You could easily spend over $1000 building a collection of retail carts for the SNES. Not to mention, these cartridges are really aging at this point.
@@aaron5364 True, some games are ridiculously expensive.
No one mentioned BS-X memory map / Satellaview base unit registers (clock)
Cool stuff us Americans never got to see
Is this how you play the Link's Awakening MSU1 Game???
Are these games already loaded and just plug and play ?
You have to find the ROMs yourself. Easy to do with a simple Google search.
When you bought this did it come with the game or did you need to download all the roms yourself?
Getting the ROMs is up to you.
Looks good, I yearn to get all my 16 bit retro consoles back, gotta be honest I would like the original cartridges, part of the joy of retro for me is the memories, and I feel getting the original games is a 1:1 expereince, it might cost a lot more, but honestly, there are probably only about 15 games on the megadrive and snes I really fondly recall playing or owning and I could buy a few a year and not notice it. ATM I am thinking. I don't care about better or faster anything, I care about replicating the old experince even down to using an OLD TV with RF cable.
Super Mario Kart
Contra III
SF2, Turbo, Super
Un Squadron
Another World (Out of this world - snes music rocked!)
Dragons Lair
FZero
StarFox
And maybe about 8 or so others.
MegaDrive list was a bit bigger as I had that console 2 years prior and I mostly hammered SMK & SF2 on the snes.
great review, what would be the difference between this one and a sd2snes?
I believe that the FXPAK Pro is pretty much the same thing, just updated with better FPGA and a new name due to licensing issues.
What nintendo console is that ....where can i buy?
It's the Super Nintendo Jr... Highly sought after because it's easy to RGB mod!
I have an X5 model and love it. However, there are some chip enhanced games I would like to play.
I do think the price for the FX Pak is a little too high. Should be $100-$150 tops.
I agree that it is a bit expensive, but this is likely the best flash cart for the SNES that we will ever get. It's a one time purchase that will probably last you forever.
I believe Gradius III has a fixed version that plays correctly.
does it support NES roms?
I believe there is a way, however it's emulation, and it's not that great as of right now.
yo what game is that @ 1:20 ??
I believe this one is Super Turrican 2.
Why is your SNES different looking
It's the Super Nintendo Jr.
The best music for TMNT4 is actually the Sega Hyperstone music. It really drives and makes it feel more arcadey.
I'm biased in favor of Genesis music compared to SNES, just because it's what I grew up with. It rocks way harder too!
@@travisbowmanmusic SNES version feels hollow and reverby. SEGA version grinds hard.
I have it, Hurrah 😁
I prefer the original music, without exception.
I think I do too, but as a musician, it's nice to try out different options.
I think I'm the only one who prefers the old 16 bits.
It's not just you, I promise!
Does this system have any type of input delay while playing?
None whatsoever
@travisbowmanmusic thank you sir. Much appreciated. I had a retro pie and it felt weird to play. Def gonna pick one up.
It's not justified to pay that much fir a everdrive especially for snes, I literally just bought one for 70 bucks
Sounds like you got a cheaper Chinese clone of the Everdrive. If it works for you, then that's awesome, man! I prefer the Everdrive for the features and support. Firmware updates, etc. Krikzz continues to support his hardware, and I don't mind paying extra for that.
This is my favorite Super Nintendo. I own it with original controllers, I am very lucky to get one with all stock equipment. Gonna keep it forever. 😄😊
It's just such a satisfying design.
There's no remotes that exist for the Super Nintendo. They only have controllers.
@@EnchuritoI appreciate you spotting that. I corrected my original comment.
Avg cost $35.36 x 8 = $274 cost of FKPAK PRO.
I really starts to pay for itself in no time. It's a one time purchase to get the best SNES experiences for the rest of your life.
@@travisbowmanmusic yep and next month hoping to get myself one.
Why not just emulate?
Some people just wanna play on real hardware, man. 🤷
Steuber Trail
Ken Groves
Michelle Islands
The mixing of the audio on this video is pretty poor. I'm at 100% maxxed in my mixer and on the video player itself, and I'd put the volume at around 50% of what it should be. Loud is good. You want your audio to be unbearably loud at 100%, because that's the point of 100% audio. You don't want 100% audio to be your *personal* desired audio level. If I switch from this video to something else, it's going to blow my speakers up.
Ok.
@@Sassofrassquatch92 Yeah.
I appreciate the feedback. I strive to do my videos better each time I make them. I taught myself how to do all of this.
You should get the fx pak pro for yourself
sorry that is just too expensive. Unjustifiable.
As I stated in the video, one loose copy of Chrono Trigger costs as much as this flash cart. No need to apologize, if it's not for you, then it's not for you!
There are several others that can see the value in this too though. 🙂
@@travisbowmanmusic but at the end of the day you ply ROMs, not original games. So why not play them on a raspberry pi.
Because some people prefer to play on original hardware, and that's okay.
@@travisbowmanmusic it still not original hardware of you're playing off of an SD card.
Yes it is, actually. I'm playing the games on my Super Nintendo. As far as the console is concerned, these are the real games being played here.
This has been a subject of debate for a while, and I honestly don't understand why people like you have such a difficult time with what other people do with their money.
Could I emulate this on my PC? Yes.
Could I get a Mister and just use that? Yes.
But I choose to use this flash cart because of the features it offers. It's a one time fee to get the best flash cart for this system.
At the end of the day, it's about options. I choose to use this flash cart, and you choose emulation. Both are fine.
If you aren't okay with that, then I don't know what to tell you, man.
$224 for a CARTRIDGE to play SNES games is kind of absurd. I could buy an entire FPGA console that emulates the entire SNES hardware for that price.
And that's totally fine. As someone who's dabbled with both original hardware and emulation, I prefer to play on the original hardware.
@@travisbowmanmusic I do too. But a Super Everdrive is like $60, and I can get an SNES for
You could also just install an emulator on your computer. What's your point?
@@charlesrayshisleriii My point is that $224 is a lot of money. I hope this helps you understand my very simple point, Charles. Let me know if you need me to elucidate it any further.
@GrauKaninchen That is something people often ask me.
My wife wife bought me BBC Malcom, so I could see how it looks. pretty nice gift, never seen much stretching and cream in my life.
For me 94 dollars : SD2SNES CHINA version with (ALTERA CYCLONE 4 and CORTEX M3 - NXP 1756) . copy of krikz catridge work great all games SNES and gameboy . MAJ officiel FXPACK PRO KRIKZ 1.11.0 ok with this
I've never had any experience with that Chinese clone... but I'd wager that it doesn't support firmware updates or any of the extra features like running fastrom games, CD audio games, or any hacked games. But hey, if it works for you, then I say more power to ya!
Yes , given that the components of my china are identical to fx pack pro, everything works identically. Official krikz update + msu1 + sa1 + save game etc etc