Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links) ------------------------------------ Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl 10kVA 120/240v Base Multiplus-2 System www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron MPPT RS 450V/100A SmartSolar Charge Controller www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-smartsolar-mppt-rs-charger-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Victron Lynx Components - Power In, Shunt and Distributor www.currentconnected.com/product-category/victron/lynx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl Hydraulic Knockout Tool Kit 1/2 to 2 inch amzn.to/3Zx7oFZ
Greast video Adam, thanx 👍 One of my experiences with the same Lynx Bus Bar setup: The Lynx Shunt can and does NOT communicate with the Lynx Distributor. So if anyone uses Cerbo/VRM with this combination: You'll never get an info, if i.e. a fuse is blown. Only the LYNX BMS can talk with the Lynx Distributor ☹ I decided to return my Lynx Distributor, ordered a second Lynx PowerIn and added four internal mega fuses with some bolts and nuts. It's working perfectly and I saved some money. 😜
Thanks! Yeah I made that discovery recently. Very disappointing. I’m hoping that Victron resolves that soon. Doesn’t make any sense why they wouldn’t make it work with both.
I talked with Victron last year, hoping it's only a missing software feature. But no, we have to wait for a new hardware Lynx Shunt II or something like that. I'm disappointed too.
I would put the Lynx group on the far left hand side of the metal raceway (MR) where the MR feed the distributor section directly from the far left of the MR. You could then either punch a bunch of round opening in the end to feed the distributor. The battery section would be lower to the ground - nearer the batteries.
@@AdamDeLay07 Your assuming everyone has your knowledge. I’ve written instructions thinking that I covered all the bases, not even close. If there’s a way for the general public to do something wrong, they will. That’s why some pizza boxes have “remove food to eat from box”.
Nise work! Clean job! I havent given up yet on my 6500 yet....i still cannot get the batteries to talk to each other. No help from s.s. i ran my buzz bars inside my wireway...keep up the great work. Thanks.
It's interesting that even Victron isn't appreciating how much voltage is involved these days in solar panel strings. They're still "OMG 120v AC we must have this in conduit" but "hey this 400v PV line? Let it dangle bro, otherwise you'll never experience what a 400v DC arc does to a cat when they chew on the wires".
You can use the Lynx bus bar system. I don’t know if the 18kPV can be connected to the Cerbo system. I would think probably not. You could still use the shunt data on the Cerbo, but I don’t think you could see inverter data on there.
I still have them. The little issues build up. The flickering lights and then the overloads after the latest firmware update are just a few on the list. The biggest thing was provably the lack of support. Couldn’t get support to respond to my tickets in a timely fashion. Last ticket I sent it was almost 3 weeks before I got a response. I’m a DIY guy through and through, and if I have to contact support, I’ve done my due diligence and exhausted my individual options. I just want timely support from a company I spent a lot of money with.
@@AdamDeLay07 I have 4 SunGoldPower Inverters (same OEM with the EG4 ones) but now sure they will work good or not. Btw, where do you get the little hinges on top of the gutter?
@@cotandiet6096 I don’t think the sun gold ones had the flickering issue that the EG4s had. I’m guessing it had to do with the increased mppt voltage changes. Those are just clips on top of the gutter. They’re riveted in.
@@cotandiet6096 No. The clips just prevent the top of the cover from popping off. The bottom of the cover has screw points but nothing on the top. So the clips hold it in place. I honestly wish it was hinged cause that would be kinda cool, but I would want it to hinge down so it would be out of the way. I would imagine the gutters with hinges cost more.
Question: Since you're using EMT nipples between your controllers and the 8x8 wireway, have you researched the issue with magnetic inductance heating from only have one conductor in a steel nipple? I know that with steel conduit, you need to have two (min.) conductors in the conduit so that the magnetic fields cancels each other out and doesn't create magnetic inductance heating of the conductors and conduits. IDK. Just wondering. Maybe it's not applicable for DC current. ??
I have not. I know I've seen quite a few professional installers use conduit for the DC lines without any issues. That's kinda where I got the idea from. I know when I used them on my old 6500s, I never experienced any residual heat build up. I wonder if that's for AC only? I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks though!
@@neilhendo7 Yeah, the Victron stuff I've had in the past just works. Hoping these new pieces are just as reliable...we'll find out together! Kinda surprised about the comments regarding the Solark. What issues are you having? I thought those things were pretty rock-solid as well.
Thanks! That's what I keep telling myself. Take it slow...do it right the first time. On the plus side, the lynx system really almost makes it foolproof from the DC side. It takes saves a lot of brainpower trying to figure out how to lay out each individual wire, bus bar, fuse etc.
Yeah, but then then battery cables have to come in through the top. I wish there was a way to have the battery cables face one way and the inverters face the other way.
Would you consider the battery cables go up separately through a separate vertical wire way into the horizontal wire way and then they also come up from top into the flipped busbar
@@KwadwoAsamoah-Duodu I had throught about that…after the fact. I had also thought about flipping everything upside down and mounting it flush with the bottom of the wire-way, but that would have required me to cut big openings in the bottom of the wire-way and I didn’t wana do that.
Watch Riley and Courtney Ambition Strikes, 60k LFP battery with 24 X 445 watt bifacial solar panels. They mount their electronic gear on a white painted chip board in a steel trailer. No chance for rats to come in and eat the wiring. So I do not see the need for steel tubing to protect the wiring.
Thanks. Yeah, I've actually talked to Riley about his system. Nice guy! The EMT conduit is not a requirement. You can easily use liquid tight conduit for the AC side of things and the DC cables (as long as they're welding cables) are perfectly fine not being in conduit. I just like the clean look of it all. Plus, while I don't have rats, I have, well let me say my wife has cats, and they love to chew on things... so any extra protection is probably a good idea.
Links to the parts & pieces in the video (affiliate links)
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Victron 48V MultiPlus-II 5kVA 120V Inverter
www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-48v-multiplus-2-5kva-120v-inverter-70a-charger/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
10kVA 120/240v Base Multiplus-2 System
www.currentconnected.com/product/10kva-120-240v-multiplus-2-5kva/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
Victron MPPT RS 450V/100A SmartSolar Charge Controller
www.currentconnected.com/product/victron-smartsolar-mppt-rs-charger-controller/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
Victron Lynx Components - Power In, Shunt and Distributor
www.currentconnected.com/product-category/victron/lynx/?ref=AzzpK9Fl
Hydraulic Knockout Tool Kit 1/2 to 2 inch
amzn.to/3Zx7oFZ
Very nice! You do a great job at planning and placing everything in a strategic layout.
Thanks!
You are not doing my solar addiction any favors! Can hardly wait for the next video. Good job, Adam.
Haha! Just imagine if I actually can get multiple videos out in a week... 😁
Thanks!
Nice work! Victron really does have a lot of the finer points taken care of. Their bus bars integrated with the communication is really cool.
Thanks! Yeah it does seem like they've really thought through a lot of these different things.
Greast video Adam, thanx 👍 One of my experiences with the same Lynx Bus Bar setup: The Lynx Shunt can and does NOT communicate with the Lynx Distributor. So if anyone uses Cerbo/VRM with this combination: You'll never get an info, if i.e. a fuse is blown. Only the LYNX BMS can talk with the Lynx Distributor ☹
I decided to return my Lynx Distributor, ordered a second Lynx PowerIn and added four internal mega fuses with some bolts and nuts. It's working perfectly and I saved some money. 😜
Thanks! Yeah I made that discovery recently. Very disappointing. I’m hoping that Victron resolves that soon. Doesn’t make any sense why they wouldn’t make it work with both.
I talked with Victron last year, hoping it's only a missing software feature. But no, we have to wait for a new hardware Lynx Shunt II or something like that. I'm disappointed too.
@@videoflieger1239 I found a thread on the Victron community page that I added my disappointment to. Kinda dumb if you ask me…
Turn your link bus sys upside down they give you decals to put on over the old ones so they read right.
I would put the Lynx group on the far left hand side of the metal raceway (MR) where the MR feed the distributor section directly from the far left of the MR. You could then either punch a bunch of round opening in the end to feed the distributor. The battery section would be lower to the ground - nearer the batteries.
Looks good. I appreciate all your trials and tribulations. I hope this one works well.
Thanks! I hope it does as well 😁
Nice work, Adam. You're killing it!
Thanks John!
Wow, looks fantastic! Now I know why I kept getting quoted $10,000+ to install and wire up my solar, batteries and inverter!
If I can do it, anyone can! It just might take a little more time to get it right.
@@AdamDeLay07
Your assuming everyone has your knowledge. I’ve written instructions thinking that I covered all the bases, not even close. If there’s a way for the general public to do something wrong, they will. That’s why some pizza boxes have “remove food to eat from box”.
@@SkypowerwithKarl Very true Karl. Same think like the coffee cup "contents hot, may burn". I guess common sense is lacking today in many...
Nise work! Clean job! I havent given up yet on my 6500 yet....i still cannot get the batteries to talk to each other. No help from s.s. i ran my buzz bars inside my wireway...keep up the great work. Thanks.
Thanks Jeff! Yeah, the lack of support was one of the reasons for the change.
Had I used the 8x8 before, I would have put it all inside as well!
It's interesting that even Victron isn't appreciating how much voltage is involved these days in solar panel strings. They're still "OMG 120v AC we must have this in conduit" but "hey this 400v PV line? Let it dangle bro, otherwise you'll never experience what a 400v DC arc does to a cat when they chew on the wires".
You joke about that but I’ve already had to kick the cats out of the room multiple times because they’re rubbing up against all the wiring.
@@AdamDeLay07 Not surprised. I don't even let my two idiots downstairs because knowing them they'd lick something live.
Cant wait for next vids. Great info. Thanks
Thanks!
Very clean. Nice job
Thanks!
Looks amazing 👍 great job
Thanks TJ!
All I have to say is..... Impressive!
Thanks!
QUESTION - Could i use the lynx shunt, distributor, power in system and cerbo monitoring system - with eg4 18kPV inverters and eg4 ll v2 battery racks
You can use the Lynx bus bar system. I don’t know if the 18kPV can be connected to the Cerbo system. I would think probably not. You could still use the shunt data on the Cerbo, but I don’t think you could see inverter data on there.
excellent details
Hello Adam, what was the problem with the EG4 inverters? Did you return them to buy Victron system?
I still have them. The little issues build up. The flickering lights and then the overloads after the latest firmware update are just a few on the list.
The biggest thing was provably the lack of support. Couldn’t get support to respond to my tickets in a timely fashion. Last ticket I sent it was almost 3 weeks before I got a response. I’m a DIY guy through and through, and if I have to contact support, I’ve done my due diligence and exhausted my individual options. I just want timely support from a company I spent a lot of money with.
@@AdamDeLay07 I have 4 SunGoldPower Inverters (same OEM with the EG4 ones) but now sure they will work good or not. Btw, where do you get the little hinges on top of the gutter?
@@cotandiet6096 I don’t think the sun gold ones had the flickering issue that the EG4s had. I’m guessing it had to do with the increased mppt voltage changes.
Those are just clips on top of the gutter. They’re riveted in.
@@AdamDeLay07 Do you use the clips as hinges for cover, am I correct?
@@cotandiet6096 No. The clips just prevent the top of the cover from popping off. The bottom of the cover has screw points but nothing on the top. So the clips hold it in place. I honestly wish it was hinged cause that would be kinda cool, but I would want it to hinge down so it would be out of the way. I would imagine the gutters with hinges cost more.
Question: Since you're using EMT nipples between your controllers and the 8x8 wireway, have you researched the issue with magnetic inductance heating from only have one conductor in a steel nipple? I know that with steel conduit, you need to have two (min.) conductors in the conduit so that the magnetic fields cancels each other out and doesn't create magnetic inductance heating of the conductors and conduits. IDK. Just wondering. Maybe it's not applicable for DC current. ??
I have not. I know I've seen quite a few professional installers use conduit for the DC lines without any issues. That's kinda where I got the idea from. I know when I used them on my old 6500s, I never experienced any residual heat build up. I wonder if that's for AC only? I'm sure someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks though!
hey adam, thanks for your educational vids,,what happened to the ex6500 or are you installing the victrons as a revue only ?
Thanks!
Right now they're back in their boxes. Not quite sure what the plan is for them at the moment.
@@AdamDeLay07 nice that your installing victron,super reliable quality stuff wish I went that route,
I have a sol-ark 5 k the thing is useless
@@neilhendo7 Yeah, the Victron stuff I've had in the past just works. Hoping these new pieces are just as reliable...we'll find out together!
Kinda surprised about the comments regarding the Solark. What issues are you having? I thought those things were pretty rock-solid as well.
Recommendations on where to purchase wireway, and link
I got mine on eBay. I believe the link is on my website though. Https://going-off-grid.com
Nice going man,just take it slow,step by step,make sure you wire everything correctly:)
Thanks! That's what I keep telling myself. Take it slow...do it right the first time. On the plus side, the lynx system really almost makes it foolproof from the DC side. It takes saves a lot of brainpower trying to figure out how to lay out each individual wire, bus bar, fuse etc.
You can flip the bus bar around ,they give you a sticker so its not upside down
Yeah, but then then battery cables have to come in through the top. I wish there was a way to have the battery cables face one way and the inverters face the other way.
Would you consider the battery cables go up separately through a separate vertical wire way into the horizontal wire way and then they also come up from top into the flipped busbar
@@KwadwoAsamoah-Duodu I had throught about that…after the fact. I had also thought about flipping everything upside down and mounting it flush with the bottom of the wire-way, but that would have required me to cut big openings in the bottom of the wire-way and I didn’t wana do that.
What are you doing with the old eg4? Willing to sell them, I’m local to you!
Not sure what my plans are for them at the moment. I'll keep that in mind! Thanks!
Thank you...
what happened to the eg4 inverters
I took them down in the last video. Right now they're sitting in boxes. Not sure what the plan is for those right now.
How much was the 8x8 and the cost?
I found it on eBay. Total cost including shipping was $145.
So you got tired of the flickering?
That was part of it yeah.
Watch Riley and Courtney Ambition Strikes, 60k LFP battery with 24 X 445 watt bifacial solar panels. They mount their electronic gear on a white painted chip board in a steel trailer. No chance for rats to come in and eat the wiring. So I do not see the need for steel tubing to protect the wiring.
Thanks. Yeah, I've actually talked to Riley about his system. Nice guy!
The EMT conduit is not a requirement. You can easily use liquid tight conduit for the AC side of things and the DC cables (as long as they're welding cables) are perfectly fine not being in conduit. I just like the clean look of it all. Plus, while I don't have rats, I have, well let me say my wife has cats, and they love to chew on things... so any extra protection is probably a good idea.
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