Battlefield - Manchuria: The Forgotten Victory - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2020
- Battlefield - Manchuria: The Forgotten Victory - Part 2
For many years the 'Battlefield' series has led the way in World War II documentary programming, establishing itself as a firm favourite with generations of viewers from around the world.
The Soviet invasion of Manchuria, formally known as the Manchurian Strategic Offensive Operation or simply the Manchurian Operation, began on 9 August 1945 with the Soviet invasion of the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo. It was the last campaign of the Second World War, and the largest of the 1945 Soviet-Japanese War, which resumed hostilities between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Empire of Japan after almost six years of peace. Soviet gains on the continent were Manchukuo, Mengjiang (Inner Mongolia) and northern Korea. The Soviet entry into the war and the defeat of the Kwantung Army was a significant factor in the Japanese government's decision to surrender unconditionally, as it made apparent the Soviet Union had no intention of acting as a third party in negotiating an end to hostilities on conditional terms.
Since 1983, the operation has sometimes been called Operation August Storm after U.S. Army historian David Glantz used this title for a paper on the subject.
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The Soviets blitzkrieg Manchuria. This is so underrated in most documentaries that I've seen. That was a pretty kickass offensive!
Correct.
This is an excellent documentary on several levels; the fact that it covers this rather obscure but massively important campaign really speaks to the intelligence of the authors.
My grandfather fought in the Soviet-Mongolian Mechanized Cavalry as a communications officer.
You must be very proud of him! Merry Christmas to you and your family. Stay safe 🙏
Communism will return
@@SnakeBush NEVER - I believe !!!!!
@@SnakeBushinshALLAH
When you level up against the Germans and then take on the Japanese tutorial army.
Interesting particularly on two points firstly the Soviets have been presented as evil in the west however in this instance they liberated the Chinese then withdrew.
Secondly the Japanese seemed to surrender in the thousands to the Soviets while they were supposedly very reluctant to surrender to western forces in the Pacific.
1. The Soviets were presented as "evil" only *after* the dispute in the post war Germany culminating with West Berlin blockade (i.e. as in the famous "The Iron Curtain" speech by Churchill).
Ofc before the WW2, "the west" (i.e. the US and UK, and also Franco's Spain, and Nazi Germany) were also hostile toward USSR, while in countries like France and Italy (where "socialism" was/is popular) not so much.
2. The Japanese surrendered "in their thousands" to the "western forces" in the Philippines, Java, Burma, Malaya, etc. Ofc, as in Okinawa and elsewhere (including Manchuria), some fanatical and die hard Japanese soldiers continue to fight on.
The large number of men surrendering was because Hirohito capitulated.
If they knew what was in store for them in the gulags, they probably wouldn't have.
There have also been stories that they raped, looted, and pillaged in Manchuria
@@blockraven22 yep,stories told in american schools😂😂😂
To move that many men and that much material incredible!! The bear on the move.
Its shocking how badly the Russkies curb stomped the Japanese in Manchuria. and few people realize Vasilievskys talent
An excellent two part series. Thank you
Manchuria sounds much better than Dong Bei. The war museum in Harbin is well worth a visit. Great to visit places you read about as a child.
Technically the Soviets won world war 2 from the battle of Berlin to the battlefields of Manchuria.
Moronic statement. They'd have been swallowed easily without the British and Americans fighting in Africa and the west.
America almost single handedly defeated Japan as well. Soviets are the most overrated military force ever.
Manchuria was a Soviet success but it wouldn't have been anywhere as easy if at all possible if Japan wasn't already utterly destroyed by primarily US forces(supported by Brits, French, ANZAC, and Chinese) for the past 5 years. Kuril and Sakhalin wouldn't have been possible if the Japanese navy had fuel coming from SEA. Japan still(on paper) had the world's 3rd largest navy in 1945 and if had access to fuel (blockaded by the US navy) would have prevented any Soviet amphibious assault. Likewise all the experienced Japanese troops were taken away from the Kwantung army and died fighting the US. The best Japanese equipment were kept in the mainland in anticipation of an Allied invasion. The Japanese is a shell of its former self. The Manchuria campaign was more of a testament to Soviet logistics, ingenuity, and aggressiveness. It wasn't so much a display of superiority over the Japanese forces. Khalkhin Gol and Khasan are better examples for the latter but the Soviets suffered far higher casualties than the Japanese in those battles despite superior ground equipment and numbers.
@@neurofiedyamato8763 Did Canada and Australia make it hard for the Japanese as well?
@@nicholascouper6704 sounds pretty stupid-single handedly defeated as well😂😂😂-defeated the same Japan as The Soviets,but singlehandedly,i mean man your brain is genious😂😂😂...The only thing mericans did in Japan was-they killed whole lots of civilians,and took all the credit for victory-that is what they can do very well😂😂😂
Amazing how the Japanese didn't recon or scout around the borders. No way this many men and material goes unnoticed, but here we are.
You could say the same thing about the Russians not seeing 4,000,000 German, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian, Romanian and other troops on their borders in 1941.
@@alanfenick1103 Russian spies warned Stalin, for whatever reasons, he ignored them.
@@Necron990 He has too many spies, and they got different information.
@@Hiroshi9479 Stalin aside, it still doesn't explain how an entire railroad line gets built, runs non-stop filled with troops and equipment, then are deployed, with no knowledge whatsoever by the Japanese. I get these weren't their elite A units, but one must assume scouting and recon is a standard practice. Or is it? Not even a few "accidental" border crossings by airplanes?
@@Necron990 The Trans-Siberian railway system existed long before 1945. The Russians even used to own the railway lines in Manchuria during the time of the Czar.
The amount and complexity of the logistics, engineering and co-ordination of the Red Army in this invasion is truly amazing. "Stalin's War On Japan" lays it out in detail, and it'll blow your mind!
Really interesting video
Malinovsky was a true badass
Great video!!
Finally, maybe the japanese emperor decided to capitulate on 15th of August 1945, more to avoid Soviet invasion of Japan than because of the two atomics bombs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki....
most likely
Yes.
No, it’s debatable.
Everything is debatable, @@stephenpowstinger733 ....
Well no. Not everything. Many things are not debatable.
The Soviet Army was the most powerful fighting force in the world at that time. And these were the armed forces of the Soviet Union before the betrayal by a cadre of traitors in the United States gave the Soviets the atomic bomb.
Soviets had no need of US traitors;their excellent phisics as Kurçatov and his assistants were enough
“Traitors” to who? The US bourgeoisie? So what? People who helped the USSR were loyal to working class people the world over.
See, the Soviets are good people too.
The problem for Chiang kai shek ( also moscow trained ) was that Maos forces now had a foothold ally in the S.U. and could not claim VJ day.
The movie The Last Emperor was quite accurate about the history. The Japanese Kwan Dong army invaded China North East in 1931. Then they moved Pu Yi there and created The State of Manchuria. Before that Manchuria did not exist on the map. Only Hitler and Musolini acknowledged the existence of the new state. Other countries claimed it illegitimate. Why Pu YI? Because the Qing Dynasty was created after wars between people from the North East with the Ming Dynasty in Beijing. Qing people only had a short history of prosperity in China. Before that 3000 years of kingdoms were largely people from the middle like Xi'An and Beijing. Therefore the Japanese had the excuse to conveniently sent Pu Yi home to be king and make it a puppet state. The North East was rich in coal, iron mines, and rice. Actually it had oil too but they didn't know it at that time. They did the same to Korea since 1905 after winning the war with Russia as well as a bunch of nations at the beginning of the Pacific War.
Ooo, Madame Jong... seems l got a bit of yellow fever
*Even if I really and honestly HATE Soviets, because after the WW II-nd they were occupying my country, and later on they installed soviet puppet government for upcoming almost 45 years, I have to honorably admit, that Soviet campaign against Imperial Military forces in Manguria, was a brilliant planning and achievement during the summer of 1945 !!!! Not only from military tactics point of view, but what was even more brilliant, from logistical point of view !!!!*
Do you mean Eastern Germany?
@@glebmalyugin2588 Nope .... that time Imperialistic Japan .... By the way - I was born in Poland, not in DDR.
Please don’t believe capitalist media propaganda.
In reality, life in socialist Poland was better for working class people than it was under the rightwing regime before the war and the rightwing regime today.
Great video. So with the Americans fighting a costly war of attrition in the Pacific, and British & Commonwealth troops battling it out in Burma..... the Soviets took on the 1.1Million Japanese in Manchuria at the same time the 2 Atomic bombs of the US hit the Japanese homeland all of which hastened an end to WW2.
The Japanese had about a million troops in ALL of China.
Hurra hurra red army ♥
What do the X's above the Japanese flags mean?
Some they were four ,,,some there were two ,,,some there were three??
20 million Chinese, tens of millions of Russians,
DIED
Speaking of Honor...
Did they ever say thank you to AMERICA: NO
@@lelandthompson2267 thank you for what
@@lelandthompson2267 its the size of the battle group i believe
XX is a division
XXXX an army group
Something like that
@@karrole88
X = Brigade about 3 to 5000 men
XX = Division about 15 to 20,000
XXX = Corps about 30 to 50,000
I = Company about 100
II = Battalion about 300
III = Regiment about 1000
. = team 2 to 5 men
.. = section or squad
... = platoon 30 to 40 men
This will vary from country to country
Size of the force
Much was made by Stalin of a need of the Western allies to create a second front (invade Europe) while Russia was bled by Germany. This position of Stalin omits the fact that he did not, would not, attack Japan’s territories until VE.
The USSR defeated 80% of the nazi war machine and then the USSR defeated 1.2 million Axis troops in Manchuria and Korea.
Furthermore, China defeated more than 2 million Axis troops.
How many Japanese soldiers did the USA defeat in their part of the war?
Not an intelligent decision to fight 2 wars at the same time, boomer.
Use that rusty thing you call a brain.
Henry Wallace would have made a great President.
Why? Because Oliver Stone said so?
Back then the democrat and republican parties chose the VP. They chose Truman because they wanted someone more conservative to replace FDR, because everybody knew that FDR was not going to finish his fourth term.
What a dangerous time that was. To have Wallace so close to stepping in in 1944.
Nothing about Manchuria. All about America.
Apropos of nothing but stories like this always make me wonder if there were guys that fought in '36 in Spain against the Spanish Fascists, then Leningrad say, then Konigsberg, Berlin, then a year later finding themselves attacking the Japanese. It would have been a hell-ish experience but also an amazing one.
Being a good 'snowflake' in the '60's I always felt like there must have been some other way to force the Japanese to surrender rather than nuking them. There actually were ways that could have been done but it would have left the Kwangtung in power in China and with the insane nationalism prevalent amongst the Japanese in the 30's-40's we would have fought a very expensive and endless guerrilla war in Japan itself, on our own, for many years.
The Brits couldn't have helped us since they were almost bankrupt having fought around the world against the Nazi's, Japanese, Romanians, Italians etc. since '39 (two years earlier than us) and the Canadians, Aussies, India, Ghurkas etc. were in the same boat with France many years away from being able to help. What changed my mind was spending five years reading about WW2. Iwo Jima, Tarawa, Pelielu and Okinawa changed my mind in a big way. We were actually restrained in only nuking them twice. If it had been up to me, besides Nagasaki and Hiroshima, I would have included Tokyo and 2 or 3 more places in Mancheria...one right after another.
Speculative history in such detail is pointless.
поинтересуйся сначала сколько было ядерных бомб у США вообще на тот момент
@michael boultinghouse And to think on 24 December 1950, MacArthur submitted a list of "retardation targets" in Korea, Manchuria and other parts of China, for which 34 atomic bombs would be required.
@michael boultinghouse there is a good Russian proverb : ' History isn't aware of _if, could, should, would_ ' . *История не знает сослагательного наклонения*
@michael boultinghouse 'американцы в Японии такого не делали' , you said. But this is just not true. There are plenty of sources about cases of crimes in surrended Japan, including rapes committed by American soldiers.
part 1 has been taken down
I watched it yesterday. It’s been up for a year.
Enough with the repeating twirling star!
What twirling star?
Yeah, I’m so over “Dancing with the Stars”. If I never see another star twirling on the dance floor, it will be too soon!
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The Russians wouldn’t attack the Japanese until they had defeated the Germans and their European allies. The Russian commanders could throw away the lives of their men carelessly. They could lose an entire army and replace it with another. The Russians had air superiority, the Japanese tanks and armored vehicles were never a threat to even a Sherman tank let alone a t-34. Since I was a kid and read about this offensive I saw it as a territory grab and regional political move by the Soviet Union. I also believe that they over reported Japanese casualties and prisoners taken. The Soviets under reported their own casualties.
Everything you said is a polar opposite to the actual truth but then again it's OK to say anything you want about Russians/Soviets isn't it?
As an ethnic Pole I can see very few of their actions in my ancestors homeland defensible. I stand by my comments above.
@@donaldcheloha3808 I know my friend, I know the full history but they created the current nation of Poland and gave you almost as much land as West Germany, they rebuilt Poland after WW2 and most of all, they saved Poland from Generalplan Ost
@@michaelhayes4231 true.
Michael Hayes, wow, lol
Finally someone who spits the facts. Very unpopular facts, lol
Be careful you gonna hurt their feeling and destroy their delusional reality. Thank you!
P.S. nowadays most of liberated slavs think Hitler was their friend, or at least it was told to then. Not a lot knows what was his real plans and intentions towards them. Brainwashed traitors to their very core.
Thank goodness for the nuke.
@Донецкий Военно-Исторический Клуб On ne критин, nn "retard." Ego mozgi promitie kak vse na zapode. Bezpolezdno s nimi govorit'. Oni Russkih ne navidyat i tupie lyudi.
Nukes killed 200,000+ civilians in Japan and achieved nothing positive. The USSR joining the war against Japan is why Japan’s dictatorship surrendered.
The nukes were used to try to terrorise the people of the USSR. Terrorising people is not healthy behaviour. It is the action of sociopaths and sadists.
Stalin always played both sides. Everyone knows he had a non aggression pact with Hitler. He also had one with the Japanese Empire. If Stalin wasn't such an evil , devious dictator, the Soviet Union wouldn't have lost 22 million people to the Nazis.
So if Stalin had been a nice guy, what was he supposed to do when the Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa?
@@capmidnite If he was a competent leader, he wouldn't have destroyed his military in the great purges. The Red Army would have defeated the Nazis, without incurring such huge losses.
@@philjerome9795
Yeah, just like the biggest and most powerful army in Europe - French - did. Oh wait.
While originally intended against political opposition, the purge also carried the same meaning the rest of Bolshevik policy did - to cover for 100+ years of stagnation and degradation in shortest time possible. If it wasn't carried out, Soviet Union would be stuck with likes of Budyonny (who thought that cavalry is actually going to decide anything in the age of mechanized warfare) and Tuchachevsky (father of human wave tactics memes), and probably in the middle of political turmoil as well (as much as paranoid Stalin was, Trotsky and his supporters as well as leftover tsarists were an actual threat).
@@UEDCommander The American Army also faced many old and out of date General Officers. We didn't shoot them though
Emm, United States and Britain asked Soviet Union in Jalta conferention to attack Japan in 3 months after the war in Europe ended. Stalin attacked Japan because Allied asked him, but not because he "such evil". Your argumnets is shit, USSR didn't planned to invade Germany, and german invasion wasn't preventive
Excellent documentary. However two observations made in this documentary are false. 1. Stalin was not the absolute ruler of the Soviet Union. In fact all military decisions were taken by his generals not himself who were the true arm of the Soviet Union's military might. Stalin was the chairman of the Communist Party and a figure head of the nation. It is also false to say that Stalin executed repressions against his opponents in the 1930's. The soldiers and generals who ended up prosecuted and in the Siberian prisons were the counter revolutionaries of the so called "White Army", the army of the old oligarchs and aristocrats connected with Czarist Russia, who were supported by Western powers, who had their share of terror in their attempt to tear down the Soviet Union and whom the overwhelming majority of the Soviet population considered as traitors and enemies of the people. 2. The Japanese had already accepted all the terms of surrender put forward by the allies as from February 1945 and this was communicated to the allies through the neutral state of Sweden. What the Japanese were asking for was only to be granted permission to keep emperor Hirohito in order for the Japanese population to accept defeat with dignity. On the 14th of August 1945 the allies, not Japan, accepted the Japanese request to keep the emperor and the war ended but only after the US had sent a clear message to the Soviet Union with its two nuclear tests on Japanese innocent civilians.
"The soldiers and generals who ended up prosecuted and in the Siberian prisons were the counter revolutionaries...." Yes, comrade! They were Wreckers. Right Oppositionists. There was no DOUBT about it!
"two nuclear tests on Japanese innocent civilians." Hiroshima and Nagasaki were both centers of military production. Both had extensive munitions plants, shipyards and countless small workshops producing machine parts, all kept running by civilians. Hiroshima was also the HQ of the Second General Army of Japan.
You do a great job whitewashing Stalin's crimes.
No the emperor accepted the U.S. terms , his position was not guaranteed Gen.MacArthur lobbied for them to keep the emperor but he lost his godlike position.
@@chipschannel9494 There's a very famous picture of General MacArthur standing next to Hirohito. MacArthur is dressed in his khakis and standing in an almost slouched, casual manner and yet he is towering over a puny looking Emperor Hirohito. That picture alone dispelled any notion the Japanese had of their Emperor being divine.
Impressive, but one thing the Soviets did NOT have was substantial amphibious warfare capability to carry out D-Day type landings or island hopping as the Americans did. The Japanese still had battleships in reserve and coastal defenses ready. In the end, it was the A-bomb and the American forces on stand-by for an invasion that forced the Japanese to surrender.
not really Japan couldn't continue after the soviets told manchia the japanese needed the resources there.
The soviets had already started taking the home lslands. The A bomb didnt make much difference tokyo had aready fire bombered killing 100000people earlier
@@alwoo5645 By this stage in the war, the Japanese didn't have a long term plan to continue the war with resources. Their plan was to force a negotiated surrender, with terms such as no occupation of the home islands by the victors and letting the current government stay in power. Thus, they wanted to make an invasion of the home islands as bloody as possible. Again, the Red Army didn't have much amphibious invasion capability, at least not on the scale of what the US forces had. The Soviets were able to gain a foothold only on the Sakahlin and Kuril islands, which weren't that heavily defended and close to the Soviet Union.
@@capmidnite Without Manchuria Japan did not have anything left to negotiate a surrender, and they were allready bombed too much to put up a serious fight.
So if they'd continued they'd just be continued to be bombed to bits by the yanks and soviets if they didn't starve before.
That's why they accepted to surrender, not because they'd theoretically might be invaded or because they were extra impressed by the a-bomb.
@@roknikov The Japanese were arming old men and schoolgirls with sharpened bamboo sticks. They still had stockpiles of aviation fuel and thousands of planes ready to launch suicidal one-way missions. The point is this: make a ground invasion of the home islands so bloody the United States agrees to a negotiated (vs unconditional) surrender. That's what I mean by negotiated surrender . . . not that the Japanese were going to "trade" the gains they still possessed such as Manchuria. Japan by this point had been bombed so much the US Air force was running out of targets to bomb. The experience with fighting the Germans showed that intense aerial bombing alone doesn't win a war. German morale and factory production actually went UP during the most intense bombing campaigns. Sobering thought: all the Purple Hearts medals given out even today were manufactured for the anticipated invasion of Japan. The atom bomb was the true game changer that showed the US could truly decimate Japan with a sci-fi type weapon.
Everyone should realize one important fact germany. Japan. We're fighting all over the world. The russia's first only fighting the Germans ,. And this then just the japan's , one at a time ,, wonder if it had been one on one America. England again all over the world many fronts. ,, Russia's are over rated then. And now
FYI Soviet Union fought Japan 1932-39. In 1941-42 Soviet Union had significant forces deployed on the border with Mongolia... Those forces were used for the offence against Germany, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Czech, Finland forces at the end of 1942... overrated?
Over rated?????........The Eastern Front was the bloodiest war in human history, Russia alone have 28.000.000 deads, Africa, Italy and France were a "Beach Party" compared with Russia.
The USSR defeated 80% of the nazi war machine.
The USSR then joined the war against Japan and in a few weeks defeated 1.2 million Japanese troops (& puppet troops) in Manchuria and Korea (which were rich in mortals and farming and so were vital to Japan’s war effort). This (not the US atomic bombs) is why Japan’s dictatorship surrendered.
Russia fought Italy Austria Hungary Poland Germany Japan Bulgaria Turkey where the f have you been during school buddy ?
didn't know Putin was in this war 😂also does anyone if the outro song is just for this docu or is it on youtube?