@@purplebruh947 I just said boost, can you read? The spindash in Frontiers requires the boost energy to work. Well, guess what? So did the regular boost from Unleashed, Generations, Colors and Forces. I don't know what op finds so interesting about that if that's just the normal boost but with more steps.
@@robyjacker your comment makes no sense then. He was talking that its unique for spindash to use a boost meter. That is a fact. It never used a boost meter. Why would you write a sarcastic remark about it.
@@purplebruh947 Because yeah, this might be the first time the spindash needed boost energy to work, but there's nothing that special or unique about that fact. My bad, have a nice day
Last time I saw gameplay of a game I was sceptical on was Star Wars Fallen Order. The gameplay shown off for it didn't make it look that interesting, but when it came out, people loved it. Bugs not withstanding (It's been a couple years so i doubt EA has allowed the first one to be patched)
As a game artis opinion, I had much fun while playing the game, the only down side I had with this game was island 4 and the finall bosses. The first 3 boss battles with the titans in this game were so good with the music, and then you had supreme and the end. For me it felled like a letdown because supreme didnt had a creative new look like the other titans and was more like a 2.0 version of the first boss. It also didn't had any cool fight animations like the other titans. Also for 'the end', that was just a sphere with a purple moon texture. And the battle self wasnt really fun because in the normal mode, the battle was just a cutscene and in the difficult mode, it was just an shoot em up battle that wasn't really sonic style. I would like to think that these bosses had so much potential because of the hyping up during the game play but was never used. And for the 4th island, it was just a part of the first island lacking in area creativity. It was also a downside because There wasnt any real combat or new enemies during that time were you just run around aimlesly from tower to tower, making it les exciting to explore. But I have to say, I dig it with the huge forest theme, all in all, sonic frontiers was in my opinion a good sonic game until the part of the 4th island eploration and the end part with the finall boss battle where it kinda felt more like a rush job for me lacking in creative combat and excitement 🏝️🤖🌕
I had faith it was going to be good and didn't let the initial gameplay faze me too much but I was disappointed at cyberspace controls more than reused stages or themes If anything they used layouts from the games that a sizeable fanbase loves so to me it begs the question of mild hypocrisy However perhaps said fans were ok seeing those layouts once and preferred new ones based on those layouts Even so it's clear they ran fresh out of ideas for changing up the platforming and just wanted to stay the safe route, so in their defense the criticism wasn't too fair, because they knew fans liked the games they pulled the level designs from Heck I LOVED seeing metal harbor redone and green forest, and experiencing the hard unleashed DLC stages Didn't people want these stages to not be mindless chores, because not all of them were Bit late to rant on this I'm aware
Sonic frontiers is definitely a step in the right direction, I really hope sega listens to the criticism cuz they could potentially make the best sonic game to date using the concepts the game bases itself on
@@dustnstuff7729Yeah unfortunately, but I would love them to come back to it or just reboot the storybook series entirely. Also, I would love a storybook game based on Japanese mythology and giving the Japanese side of the sonic fanbase some love too.
I feel like if i sat frontiers is my favorite game people will go like "is it because its the latest?" No the reason its my favorite is because it has alot of replayableite. Running around in a open world spindashing and flinging yourself around is and i cant wait for update 3 btw generations is my second favorite now cuz of frontiers
Lacks any real replayabilty for me as all the Platforming is Basic and Automated. Running around the world only became good after Update 2 because of the Jump Momentum and Spindash, however the islands are the same Generic Flat worlds so it’s still not the greatest.
It is true that ign was given the footage but this shows the lack of care they have for actually putting any effort to make games look good the could have simply asked for more high speed footage with more of the actual game
Before the updates after i beat the game i had no reason to come back to it. But now? I’m playing nonstop trying to collect every memory token and now i can’t wait for update 3
Holy crap you are really underrated. This vid is so good i expected you to have way more subs. Lemme add 1 to that amount. If you keep this up you're gonna blow up someday
To me frontiers didn’t need nor give redemption it gave the sonic name a new brighter future. The game was always enjoyable and the updates as they should are just keeping the fun going.
To be honest with you guys i think this game will be peak when update 3 comes out but i know i might get hate for saying this but i still think 06 needs a remake they haven't given that to us that game had so much potential that was lost and i cant wait for superstars and also i cant wait for update 3 and soon this game might be the best sonic game we got in a while
Update 3 might also bring back the cut story content that was intended for there to originally be in the game. Like the Ancients Ark and while I doubt they would change the story, an overhaul to the final act. They did announce that Update 3 will bring new story and conveniently, Frontiers had to cut story that was going to happen in the last part of the game (including some lost voicelines that were recovered), so they could easily bring that back or even go with the idea that the End alluded to, that it comes back in a new form for a true final boss in an extended postgame.
It was definitely a good game, the open world segments wete hit and miss for me. But you can definitely see the developers really tried in places. I would have loved to see something like the choas from sonic adventure as a nice break from the main game. Soundtrack was rocking as alwasy.
I do love Sonic Frontiers but it is one of those games that I beat once but never play again. I was feeling pretty burnt out by the time I was done with just running around the open world. Found myself having no reason to turn it on again. This is fine though. There are games like that.
You know what would make sonic frontier better??? If they added in wild pokemon he could encounter and do battle with. This the perfect world to have pokemon in.
I've heard many people say that sonic frontiers "is one of the worst games they've ever played" (most notably, Jonny RaZeR) to wich I say, what games are you playing? this game is the most 7.5/10 game ever, which means it's good, it's fun, but certainly not perfect.
Let’s all be honest.. These post launch updates have been weak.. I’d rather they had just put them in from launch as I feel they’ve wasted most of the update road map on niche little additions.. I’d prefer more content like extra cyberspace levels and maybe even a new island instead of “oh here’s a jukebox and photo mode”. It’s stuff new players will appreciate but if you’ve already beat the game then who cares?
I hope SEGA makes ALWAYS Sonic games like Frontiers from now on, such as Sonic's combat fighting with his fists and legs, exploring the places instead of running only too fast in one direction, more stylish Sonic outfits, SonAmy moments and more playable Sonic characters (Amy is my most favorite).
yo love this sorta content keep up the great work cuz I'm working on a video/video sersise kinda like your video going over the beginning of the reveal and after when the game released.
I haven't played any of the updates yet. I don't think it's worth playing little by little .... I'm waiting until all 3 updates come out and I can play a massive chunk of DLC at 1 time.
One thing that should be stated that definitely had some effect on its positive reception: the music. The OST and specifically the boss music is so stellar that it was actually a prime reason I bothered with the game. I actually wasn’t even aware of the roadmap. Hearing they are adding more playable characters I’ll have to go back and try it out when that happens.
i recently bought this game and didn't do before bc i was afraid of another delusion, but man i really enjoyed it! the last game that i enjoyed this much was unleashed, and i'm so happy that frontiers is the most sold 3d sonic game, hope that is the new direction of future games 👌
I really liked every aspect of sonic frontiers except for its ending it just felt very anticlimactic and the final boss was just a glorified minigame which did not help at all.
Frontiers really did pull through after that initial gameplay reveal. I personally found the game to be good and the updates have only helped the game become more quality. Here’s to hoping that Sonic team simple does what worked in frontiers and the updates and simply improves on those concepts.
When those first showcases released I wanted to just completely drop all interest in the game, but I held out hope that it was just bad marketing. Once the better marketing started, I guessed that it would be a 7/10 Once I started playing, I had it as 8/10, but the second half dropped that to 6/10. Honestly, the sonic fan in me wanted to say 7/10, but the game developer in me won out. After my first playthrough, I never touched it without mods. But when Update 2 came out, I could finally play without mods again! The biggest issue is the story, which Update 3 will seemingly fix. As you can tell, my respect for fellow game developers makes me kinda stubborn with rankings, but Sonic Frontiers could honestly end as a 9/10 in my eyes. I'm finally hopefully for Sonic's future! And great video!
0:45 I’m sorry but no, there’s a huge difference that was explained pretty clearly. Open World - focuses on being a WORLD for the player to exist in. This places an emphasis on story and selling the illusion of a real, lived-in location. Most open worlds are designed with gameplay in mind, but don’t exist expressly for the sake of gameplay. Examples include Red Dead Redemption 2, the Watch Dogs games, Shenmue, etc. Open Zone - The map(s) (often more than one since there are multiple Zones in a sonic game) are designed first and foremost for gameplay opportunities and are action-centric rather than being designed for “role-playing” as Sega put it. Modern examples include Super Mario Odyssey, Yooka-Laylee, and of course Sonic Frontiers. Sega didn’t create the open zone game, but they did finally name it.
I boycotted it on release but now I was thinking wat happened to Sonic Frontiers I literally forgot about the game, ngl I hate the fact that there is no drift or sidesteps that's literally the best part 6:50 Bruh just look at this, I was thinking y didn't u just sidestep but remembered u can't, plus I have the cyberspace levels feel like forces levels
My grip is the physics and the graphics quality. The switch kinda ruined game development. Sonic generations and unleashed had better textures. It bothers me how rain in frontiers is reduced to squares.
Shame the core game design is crap and utterly fails at supporting any of the gameplay elements that define Sonic. This entire game was a massive step in the complete wrong direction unless their goal was to make Sonic as shallow, dynamically-compressed, and bloated with negative space as possible.
First sonic game I wanted to play since generations I love sonic he’s literally my first video game ever and frontiers was amazing like it wasn’t perfect but it ain’t suppose to be perfect people will trash this game and not even make it out the first world like I get it not everyone is going to like it but sometimes I feel people are hating just soo they can be different from the rest 😂😂
personally im not a big fan of sonic frontiers as of update 2. it was okay . i feeling there's a few things that 's missing with the game but i can't put my finger on it. here's hoping update 3 improves the story and i hope we could get more cyber space stages with the other characters. its not my favorite game but im Happy sonic is back on top
I don't think the game was all that bad at launch, even now it's still got problems. But I still use default controls and I think the game has decent navigation, but I do appreciate getting new things to do. But some flaws will probably always be there (combat, automation, later islands being frustrating to navigate)
i actually found the reused level themes to be one of my favorite parts of the game's cyberspace levels. finding the layout that was sky rail, city escape and chu-nan day made me immensely giggly
Yeah, I meant to add in the 3D part but I must've overlooked it. I'll make sure I don't in the future though! Thanks for calling it out, I don't want to intentionally spread misinformation.
9:27 They shouldn’t make a “Sonic Fromtiers 2” they should make a new game using and improving upon the mechanics and concepts of this game, they don’t have to directly make a sequel if this story has found its conclusion, that will hold back potential choices for what their next open world will look like
When talking about what Update 1 added to Sonic Frontiers, I often see people gloss over Power Boost in Cyberspace and Extreme difficulty. The power boost in Cyberspace give a very nice speed boost in most cyberspace stages and Extreme difficulty is the only somewhat challenging difficulty in the game, since you die in one hit and all the S-ranks are around as hard to get as 1-2 normally is. This are big improvements to the game, so to see people just not mention them gets on my nerves a bit. Update 2 is probably better overall, since it gives us momentum and the glorious spindash, but it feels wrong to underrepresent Update 1 like that.
I remember when they released the first gameplay reveal and it looked slow and everyone hated it but then they more or less released the same trailer but slightly faster and slightly more stuff and people just lost their shit. It was hilarious
I bought this game on release day and played it for a few hours and never touched it again. As a big sonic fan and seeing these updates I’m probably going to get back into this game now
Loved this game since the initial reveal. I did not understand the negativity. Just imagining myself running at 1000 mph as Sonic through the revealed level and climbing towers ❤ the popping was bad but I grew up during the psx games so I am ok with objects popping out 😅😂 I finished Sonic Frontiers twice and had so much fun. I hope they remove stupid minigames for the sequel and improve the animations, offer more biomes and better cutscenes. The rest for me was great: music, atmosphere, exploration, moves, fighting…
Even Sonic Team agrees that they were rushed for the ending...here's hoping for more manpower and a more flexible deadline for Sonic's next 3D adventure!
I disliked the lack of momentum, however once I saw they addressed that on update 2, I brought the game. This caught out of guard, they actually did it.
Nintendo is in a league of their own they always focused on family and party games while having an affordable platform to do it on... Sony always focused on Singler player games that tell amazing and jaw dropping stories while Microsoft focused on party and multi-player games in order to push more sales. Nintendo is behind in terms of hardware, but their target audience isn't hardcore gamers like Sony, Microsoft and pc its family and children that want an affordable experience if you want graphics then stick with pc or any of the higher market consoles but if you want an affordable experience from a company that has some of the most memorable characters and games that shaped the gaming industry we know today then Nintendo would be the perfect choice.
My greatest criticism of Update 2 is how you unlock it's Spin-Dash. Honestly felt like they didn't have any real faith people would be interested in playing the Action Chain Challenges, so they dangled a well requested feature like a pair of shiny keys in front of us, and basically hinders it's overall usefulness to VERY late game/post game cleanup. I love it, don't get it twisted, but they really should've put it behind the Skill Tree, or really, just let us have it from the get go. And even with Update 2, I'd hesitate to say the game is "Redeemed" it's certainly miles better than what it was in 2022, but we still have stuff like the final act basically taking a huge faceplant in terms of story and aesthetics. The rumor mill does imply Update 3 will directly address these concerns, and hopefully that will be true, but still can't really say the game is redeemed in good faith just yet
My bigger problem with the Spin Dash is that you have to go through the long unlock process *every time* you start a playthrough instead of being a one-time unlock like the Cyber Space Power Boost. And if you use NG+ to get it from the start, your stats also transfer over, trivializing everything else in the game. I wouldn’t mind the process considering how OP it is, but it’s so stupid that it’s not a global unlock, especially since it’s already available in Arcade Mode.
@@SilverSpireZ It absolutely does need to be a proper toggle or one time unlock, especially in a game that promotes freedom to play how you want, it still really feels like they wanted to give you an artificial reason to play this new content
For Frontiers it's less of a game changer and more of a really nice upgrade, but future games could greatly benefit from momentum based level design like the koco challenges added in update 2.
To me the real problem of the game IS THAT IM SURE ALL THE VERSIONS ARE THE SAME !! Which means they are all BASED ON THE SWITCH VERSION ! Explaining the low render distance and all that
Am i living in a parallel universe? I was there for the launch, i played it again 3 months ago to check if it had improved. The game is rife with pop-in rendering issues, reused assets, and they only used 4 texture packs in the cyberspace levels, the texture packs we already saw in Generations (the city theme is essentially just Unleashed's Skyscraper theme but dulled). Who the f*ck wants to visit Green Hill 9 whole times? This game felt like and still feels like a Unity Engine experiment tacked onto a Generations demo disc.
I'm still playing the Game even with the new updates, and still having fun finding new ways to complete the world challenges, fighting the Titans, and enjoying the islands, and music.
I knew i played some of those levels in Generations before! Wish they'd do more levels that wasn't just, Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Sky Sanctuary, and the oddly City Escape esk cyber levels
I just want to correct you: Sonic Frontiers already had that momentum you talked about when it released. It just was not used in the game that much, mostly just launching off rails and platforms when boosting. The new platforming challenges however do use it kinda, they make you boost off the platforms to reach other platforms, which is a neat touch.
JakeCenZ and 90% of people here are delusional. This is not a great redemption for the game. It was fucking amazing at launch. Best Sonic game, full stop. A choa garden is the only thing more I want.
The problem is the treat sonic like he's not a super hero, put him in a city have him break dance on walks, finishers , him slowing down times, different powers from different amounts of rings and emeralds, things like that's. Like thinks spiderman but some and there you go, you've got the best sonic game ever. Give sonic class, slowing down times to redirect on run on enemies attacks, attack with light attack with sound theres so much of a arsenal sonic has and his hand to hand would be outstanding he fights knuckles people. And if you put him in a mash up with mega man like miles and Peter you can do super just. See I'm a story writer I like awesome and original stuff. Sonic team you guys took a step in the right direction but you also still slept on yourself so for sonic for me. Hero's -A. Frontiers B++ And it's not soul game play for heros the soul thing I think mad hero good was teams blast watching your character kick ass with a planed attack and the story was amazing. So imagine your team running with you, enemies approach and they all break of fighting but frontiers fighting and that's just a little bit of my ideas
Even without replayability, i think sonic frontiers didnt need a redemption. A 25 or so hour game that is fun overall and has some amazing peaks is enough for me to give it the goty. And I LOVED Elden Ring. As much as I love it, it didnt make me sing loud and hop from my chair out of the sheer amount of fun I had playing frontiers for the first time.
Their redemption is great, but I'm still wishing games released WITH all the updates and content there on day 1, not this drip feed stuff. Imagine the reception boost if the Momentum and Playable Characters were implemented in November 2022, and imagine now if the update was actually an entire expansion, being a whole new Ice-themed island with Ice-themed activities and obstacles to stray away from the constant bumper-grindrail-dashpanel dump. I know devs in a corporation aren't given that much leeway, but if they expect me to pay full price, I'm begging them to let Sonic Team really _meditate..._ and I believe they finally listened with the upcoming Sonic Superstars
I'll give it another shot. By inland 3 I got tired of digital stages. Just skipped the last ones because I had enough whatever to advance and beat the story. Good overall but just that. Updates? I'll wait for 3 and replay I suppose.
One thing I've always wanted to do that you still can't do is.. Once you've finished the game like, you should have a mode whereby you can transform into super sonic at any given time like in the old mega drive games sonic 1,2,3 when you got all the emeralds you could transform as soon as you got 50 rings or whatever, that was the coolest shit man.
I'm excited for the update 3 I seen the the update that they have released not too long ago bro I'm loving it and I cannot wait to play it I always love sonics the games not all of them of course especially '06 but anyways lol but anyways the new update that dropped not too long ago I'm excited for that I seen a lot of good things and I'm glad they finally fix something that something that we truly want but still bad I'm talking about the final boss come on planet Rock the end really but anyways love the music Love how the gameplay style and I love how they bring back the spin dash I really love that I already do I'm glad they brought it back because I make everything sort of easy / hard but I never got the extreme hard mode I don't know what am I supposed to do on that but anyways that's besides the point the point is that I'm excited for the 3rd update bro looks amazing being said of course you have good things about it and you have the bad things about it for me the only thing that saved the game is the gameplay and the artwork also the music and the classic music they have bring back which is the juice box but anyways I love the music and I love that band as well bro the music was hit I like the first boss music and the third boss music as well also the only thing I do have problem with it's too stiff You can barely move Sonic to left and right and that's the only problem let's see I'm glad they fixed the speed for cyberspace missions I'm glad but also again the left and right problem it's too stiff but other than that there's no problem but I pretty sure all I said doesn't make no sense but that's okay
The game is good but it would be a 10 out of 10 is they added choas again. Don't know why they didn't do the choas like adventure battle 2 on the GameCube
Sonic Forces was not hard but frustrating due to outright bad level design, they made stages that went from safe for a second to pit fall the next or that lead you forward some sort of instant death, that's not hard just annoying, look at Sonic Generations which is another somewhat hard Sonic game and how well they handled the stages there, lots of obstacles and danger but where not out to make you instantly die 5 times per level.
I love how this game was basically the complete inverse of Forces and 06 in terms of comparing the pre release to the final game
It's poetic
@@dmclsl03 Yup
A poetic end to the poison that is the sonic cycle.
Anyways not hoping for this but who’s hyped for them to restart the cycle lol.
@@CS-om3kj Doubt that’s going to happen considering how Superstars is looking
this is legit what 2017 was supposed to be@@gengargamer5657
The spin dash in this game has such a unique mechanic, like it uses the boost meter in order to work
Wow! it's not like the boost used to work that way since Unleashed!
@@robyjacker didn't know that unleashed had spindash
@@purplebruh947 I just said boost, can you read?
The spindash in Frontiers requires the boost energy to work. Well, guess what? So did the regular boost from Unleashed, Generations, Colors and Forces. I don't know what op finds so interesting about that if that's just the normal boost but with more steps.
@@robyjacker your comment makes no sense then. He was talking that its unique for spindash to use a boost meter. That is a fact. It never used a boost meter. Why would you write a sarcastic remark about it.
@@purplebruh947 Because yeah, this might be the first time the spindash needed boost energy to work, but there's nothing that special or unique about that fact. My bad, have a nice day
Btw sonic frontiers isn’t the highest selling sonic game. It’s the highest selling 3d sonic game
what's the highest selling 2d sonic game? mania?
@@_veloxity91 the first sonic game
Last time I saw gameplay of a game I was sceptical on was Star Wars Fallen Order.
The gameplay shown off for it didn't make it look that interesting, but when it came out, people loved it.
Bugs not withstanding (It's been a couple years so i doubt EA has allowed the first one to be patched)
I haven't played this game but is that awful pop in of structures still a thing
It unfortunately is. Definitely something they need to improve if they make a sequel but otherwise you do get used to it after a while.
As a game artis opinion, I had much fun while playing the game, the only down side I had with this game was island 4 and the finall bosses. The first 3 boss battles with the titans in this game were so good with the music, and then you had supreme and the end. For me it felled like a letdown because supreme didnt had a creative new look like the other titans and was more like a 2.0 version of the first boss. It also didn't had any cool fight animations like the other titans. Also for 'the end', that was just a sphere with a purple moon texture. And the battle self wasnt really fun because in the normal mode, the battle was just a cutscene and in the difficult mode, it was just an shoot em up battle that wasn't really sonic style. I would like to think that these bosses had so much potential because of the hyping up during the game play but was never used. And for the 4th island, it was just a part of the first island lacking in area creativity. It was also a downside because There wasnt any real combat or new enemies during that time were you just run around aimlesly from tower to tower, making it les exciting to explore. But I have to say, I dig it with the huge forest theme, all in all, sonic frontiers was in my opinion a good sonic game until the part of the 4th island eploration and the end part with the finall boss battle where it kinda felt more like a rush job for me lacking in creative combat and excitement 🏝️🤖🌕
Update 3 is gonna revamp supreme, the end, and the final island.
one of the greatest redemption arcs of all time
yes
Not the greatest, but a good one nonetheless
No mans sky would like a word with you
I had faith it was going to be good and didn't let the initial gameplay faze me too much but I was disappointed at cyberspace controls more than reused stages or themes
If anything they used layouts from the games that a sizeable fanbase loves so to me it begs the question of mild hypocrisy
However perhaps said fans were ok seeing those layouts once and preferred new ones based on those layouts
Even so it's clear they ran fresh out of ideas for changing up the platforming and just wanted to stay the safe route, so in their defense the criticism wasn't too fair, because they knew fans liked the games they pulled the level designs from
Heck I LOVED seeing metal harbor redone and green forest, and experiencing the hard unleashed DLC stages
Didn't people want these stages to not be mindless chores, because not all of them were
Bit late to rant on this I'm aware
No mans sky and battlefront 2 neg ibr
Sonic frontiers is definitely a step in the right direction, I really hope sega listens to the criticism cuz they could potentially make the best sonic game to date using the concepts the game bases itself on
If kishimoto is at the wheel you can be dang near RIGHT the next games gonna make this one look like stale leftovers
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The song one way dream is supposed to be about sega and sonic team listening to the fans, which I love the new step
If they ever make another open world sonic game, I'm hoping for a return to the Sonic and the Black Knight world. Mostly for the sword combat though.
Holly crap I hardly hear anyone bring that game up it was my favourite one
Sad to say it but i dont think theyre ever gonna bring back the storybook series
@@dustnstuff7729Yeah unfortunately, but I would love them to come back to it or just reboot the storybook series entirely. Also, I would love a storybook game based on Japanese mythology and giving the Japanese side of the sonic fanbase some love too.
@@dustnstuff7729They'd make so much money doing one based on Journey to the West though.
@@amandaslough125 who would sonic even be in that
I didn’t like the game at its launch but now after these updates, I have changed my mind.
Hypocrite
The biggest issue I have is the pop-in. In a 3D Sonic game, seeing what's further than 10 feet in front of you is a must.
Modders already fixed it before sonic team did
I feel like if i sat frontiers is my favorite game people will go like "is it because its the latest?" No the reason its my favorite is because it has alot of replayableite. Running around in a open world spindashing and flinging yourself around is and i cant wait for update 3 btw generations is my second favorite now cuz of frontiers
Replayableite? XD XD
@@agrilsunil1 sorry my fat fingers touch the wrong words but you know what I mean
Lacks any real replayabilty for me as all the Platforming is Basic and Automated. Running around the world only became good after Update 2 because of the Jump Momentum and Spindash, however the islands are the same Generic Flat worlds so it’s still not the greatest.
@@Terminal_Apotos I know it's not your favorite buts its mine I but I do respect your opinion I ain't no Twitter not giving your own opinion
Can’t IGN do anything right? I’m so glad that Sonic Frontiers got its redemption!
Sega were the one's who gave ign the footage
Ign uploaded it
It is true that ign was given the footage but this shows the lack of care they have for actually putting any effort to make games look good the could have simply asked for more high speed footage with more of the actual game
Sonic: “IGN was never good”
I think IGN purposely tried to make the game look bad by playing the game like toddlers.
Before the updates after i beat the game i had no reason to come back to it. But now? I’m playing nonstop trying to collect every memory token and now i can’t wait for update 3
same and good luck collecting all the memory tokens 🫡 it took me a while to get them all
Holy crap you are really underrated. This vid is so good i expected you to have way more subs. Lemme add 1 to that amount. If you keep this up you're gonna blow up someday
To me frontiers didn’t need nor give redemption it gave the sonic name a new brighter future. The game was always enjoyable and the updates as they should are just keeping the fun going.
Right exactly.
To be honest with you guys i think this game will be peak when update 3 comes out but i know i might get hate for saying this but i still think 06 needs a remake they haven't given that to us that game had so much potential that was lost and i cant wait for superstars and also i cant wait for update 3 and soon this game might be the best sonic game we got in a while
personally I'd just ask ChaosX if I could market Project '06 once the game's fully finished
Update 3 might also bring back the cut story content that was intended for there to originally be in the game. Like the Ancients Ark and while I doubt they would change the story, an overhaul to the final act.
They did announce that Update 3 will bring new story and conveniently, Frontiers had to cut story that was going to happen in the last part of the game (including some lost voicelines that were recovered), so they could easily bring that back or even go with the idea that the End alluded to, that it comes back in a new form for a true final boss in an extended postgame.
I wont throw hate at you but I prefer a sonic heroes or adventure1/2 remake before even looking at 06.
@@aerostrafe1075 don't see how you are throwing hate by sharing your opinion
@@jboyathegamer Gotta always give that disclaimer because some people are crazy.
Quality video! I can tell you put some time in to it. Looking forward to the next!
Thanks!
It was definitely a good game, the open world segments wete hit and miss for me. But you can definitely see the developers really tried in places. I would have loved to see something like the choas from sonic adventure as a nice break from the main game.
Soundtrack was rocking as alwasy.
Its most definitely not a good game, its just better than all the crap before.
I do love Sonic Frontiers but it is one of those games that I beat once but never play again. I was feeling pretty burnt out by the time I was done with just running around the open world. Found myself having no reason to turn it on again. This is fine though. There are games like that.
You know what would make sonic frontier better??? If they added in wild pokemon he could encounter and do battle with. This the perfect world to have pokemon in.
I've heard many people say that sonic frontiers "is one of the worst games they've ever played" (most notably, Jonny RaZeR) to wich I say, what games are you playing?
this game is the most 7.5/10 game ever, which means it's good, it's fun, but certainly not perfect.
Let’s all be honest.. These post launch updates have been weak.. I’d rather they had just put them in from launch as I feel they’ve wasted most of the update road map on niche little additions.. I’d prefer more content like extra cyberspace levels and maybe even a new island instead of “oh here’s a jukebox and photo mode”. It’s stuff new players will appreciate but if you’ve already beat the game then who cares?
I hope SEGA makes ALWAYS Sonic games like Frontiers from now on, such as Sonic's combat fighting with his fists and legs, exploring the places instead of running only too fast in one direction, more stylish Sonic outfits, SonAmy moments and more playable Sonic characters (Amy is my most favorite).
yo love this sorta content keep up the great work cuz I'm working on a video/video sersise kinda like your video going over the beginning of the reveal and after when the game released.
this is gonna be a big channel and im here for it
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@@chiggybungu8881 cha
I haven't played any of the updates yet. I don't think it's worth playing little by little .... I'm waiting until all 3 updates come out and I can play a massive chunk of DLC at 1 time.
My intention was the same but I just couldn’t hold the excitement.
Subbed, Sonic is one of my favorite gaming characters of all time, he rules awesome video man! 🙌😃
Well it didn’t redeem it self people just hate it because they think they are special but they aren’t and all it was good already
One thing that should be stated that definitely had some effect on its positive reception: the music. The OST and specifically the boss music is so stellar that it was actually a prime reason I bothered with the game. I actually wasn’t even aware of the roadmap. Hearing they are adding more playable characters I’ll have to go back and try it out when that happens.
i recently bought this game and didn't do before bc i was afraid of another delusion, but man i really enjoyed it! the last game that i enjoyed this much was unleashed, and i'm so happy that frontiers is the most sold 3d sonic game, hope that is the new direction of future games 👌
I really liked every aspect of sonic frontiers except for its ending it just felt very anticlimactic and the final boss was just a glorified minigame which did not help at all.
Been enjoying sonic frontiers since I got it from Best Buy which was 2 days ago. Excited to see if we can get more updates 😁
Frontiers really did pull through after that initial gameplay reveal. I personally found the game to be good and the updates have only helped the game become more quality. Here’s to hoping that Sonic team simple does what worked in frontiers and the updates and simply improves on those concepts.
When those first showcases released I wanted to just completely drop all interest in the game, but I held out hope that it was just bad marketing.
Once the better marketing started, I guessed that it would be a 7/10
Once I started playing, I had it as 8/10, but the second half dropped that to 6/10. Honestly, the sonic fan in me wanted to say 7/10, but the game developer in me won out.
After my first playthrough, I never touched it without mods. But when Update 2 came out, I could finally play without mods again! The biggest issue is the story, which Update 3 will seemingly fix.
As you can tell, my respect for fellow game developers makes me kinda stubborn with rankings, but Sonic Frontiers could honestly end as a 9/10 in my eyes. I'm finally hopefully for Sonic's future! And great video!
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I’m sorry but no, there’s a huge difference that was explained pretty clearly.
Open World - focuses on being a WORLD for the player to exist in. This places an emphasis on story and selling the illusion of a real, lived-in location. Most open worlds are designed with gameplay in mind, but don’t exist expressly for the sake of gameplay. Examples include Red Dead Redemption 2, the Watch Dogs games, Shenmue, etc.
Open Zone - The map(s) (often more than one since there are multiple Zones in a sonic game) are designed first and foremost for gameplay opportunities and are action-centric rather than being designed for “role-playing” as Sega put it. Modern examples include Super Mario Odyssey, Yooka-Laylee, and of course Sonic Frontiers. Sega didn’t create the open zone game, but they did finally name it.
I boycotted it on release but now I was thinking wat happened to Sonic Frontiers I literally forgot about the game, ngl I hate the fact that there is no drift or sidesteps that's literally the best part 6:50 Bruh just look at this, I was thinking y didn't u just sidestep but remembered u can't, plus I have the cyberspace levels feel like forces levels
My grip is the physics and the graphics quality. The switch kinda ruined game development. Sonic generations and unleashed had better textures. It bothers me how rain in frontiers is reduced to squares.
Shame the core game design is crap and utterly fails at supporting any of the gameplay elements that define Sonic. This entire game was a massive step in the complete wrong direction unless their goal was to make Sonic as shallow, dynamically-compressed, and bloated with negative space as possible.
This guy deserves more subscribers
First sonic game I wanted to play since generations I love sonic he’s literally my first video game ever and frontiers was amazing like it wasn’t perfect but it ain’t suppose to be perfect people will trash this game and not even make it out the first world like I get it not everyone is going to like it but sometimes I feel people are hating just soo they can be different from the rest 😂😂
“Longest sonic game up until that point”
Bro forgot about Sonic Unleashed.
This game still looks really boring
personally im not a big fan of sonic frontiers as of update 2. it was okay . i feeling there's a few things that 's missing with the game but i can't put my finger on it. here's hoping update 3 improves the story and i hope we could get more cyber space stages with the other characters. its not my favorite game but im Happy sonic is back on top
Wait they've added momentum? I think I need to go back and play the game again, momentum was sorely missed the first time round!
I don't think the game was all that bad at launch, even now it's still got problems. But I still use default controls and I think the game has decent navigation, but I do appreciate getting new things to do. But some flaws will probably always be there (combat, automation, later islands being frustrating to navigate)
I wonder if the trend of sonic looking bad only to be good on release will continue. First the sonic movie and now sonic frontiers
i actually found the reused level themes to be one of my favorite parts of the game's cyberspace levels. finding the layout that was sky rail, city escape and chu-nan day made me immensely giggly
Just....wow....
7:17 is this a script error? It's the best selling 3D Sonic game, not the best selling Sonic game
Yeah, I meant to add in the 3D part but I must've overlooked it. I'll make sure I don't in the future though! Thanks for calling it out, I don't want to intentionally spread misinformation.
Still wish we could play as supersonic in the over world and cyberspace
I deserve more subs for all the effort u put into those videos
I'd rather buy a good game thats marketed terribly than a terrible game thats marketed as a masterpiece.
Frontiers didn't redeem jack. It's still 3 bland level themes with empty worlds, flash over substance bosses, and a wack story.
Looks like in need to update my file. Haven't played in months
9:27 They shouldn’t make a “Sonic Fromtiers 2” they should make a new game using and improving upon the mechanics and concepts of this game, they don’t have to directly make a sequel if this story has found its conclusion, that will hold back potential choices for what their next open world will look like
I actually agree witth this.
Frontiers 2? No thanks
Unleashed remaster pls
frontiers was an good game at launch that only got better.
When talking about what Update 1 added to Sonic Frontiers, I often see people gloss over Power Boost in Cyberspace and Extreme difficulty. The power boost in Cyberspace give a very nice speed boost in most cyberspace stages and Extreme difficulty is the only somewhat challenging difficulty in the game, since you die in one hit and all the S-ranks are around as hard to get as 1-2 normally is. This are big improvements to the game, so to see people just not mention them gets on my nerves a bit. Update 2 is probably better overall, since it gives us momentum and the glorious spindash, but it feels wrong to underrepresent Update 1 like that.
Every sonic game i played has been good
First one here after the new trailer 😂😂😂😂.
I remember when they released the first gameplay reveal and it looked slow and everyone hated it but then they more or less released the same trailer but slightly faster and slightly more stuff and people just lost their shit. It was hilarious
I bought this game on release day and played it for a few hours and never touched it again. As a big sonic fan and seeing these updates I’m probably going to get back into this game now
Loved this game since the initial reveal. I did not understand the negativity. Just imagining myself running at 1000 mph as Sonic through the revealed level and climbing towers ❤ the popping was bad but I grew up during the psx games so I am ok with objects popping out 😅😂 I finished Sonic Frontiers twice and had so much fun. I hope they remove stupid minigames for the sequel and improve the animations, offer more biomes and better cutscenes. The rest for me was great: music, atmosphere, exploration, moves, fighting…
I loved sonic frontiers at launch and I want a story dlc and a sequel in the future
Frontiers 2 is gonna be godlike
Even Sonic Team agrees that they were rushed for the ending...here's hoping for more manpower and a more flexible deadline for Sonic's next 3D adventure!
I disliked the lack of momentum, however once I saw they addressed that on update 2, I brought the game. This caught out of guard, they actually did it.
I came for Sonic video, then I decided to stay after hearing P4 music at the end. Great work King, sub for you!
Are you using a jump ball mod? I dont remember the blur behind it
Yeah it's called Alternate Jump Ball + Trail by Weezley on Gamebanana.
Hey what's the level music at 5:25? So familiar!
Windy Valley from Sonic Adventure! ua-cam.com/video/FvKQLPHWuwU/v-deo.htmlsi=fOxbE7ARvB7KEDnu
Sega is like nintendo, 10 years behind on their rivals
Nintendo is in a league of their own they always focused on family and party games while having an affordable platform to do it on... Sony always focused on Singler player games that tell amazing and jaw dropping stories while Microsoft focused on party and multi-player games in order to push more sales. Nintendo is behind in terms of hardware, but their target audience isn't hardcore gamers like Sony, Microsoft and pc its family and children that want an affordable experience if you want graphics then stick with pc or any of the higher market consoles but if you want an affordable experience from a company that has some of the most memorable characters and games that shaped the gaming industry we know today then Nintendo would be the perfect choice.
My greatest criticism of Update 2 is how you unlock it's Spin-Dash. Honestly felt like they didn't have any real faith people would be interested in playing the Action Chain Challenges, so they dangled a well requested feature like a pair of shiny keys in front of us, and basically hinders it's overall usefulness to VERY late game/post game cleanup. I love it, don't get it twisted, but they really should've put it behind the Skill Tree, or really, just let us have it from the get go.
And even with Update 2, I'd hesitate to say the game is "Redeemed" it's certainly miles better than what it was in 2022, but we still have stuff like the final act basically taking a huge faceplant in terms of story and aesthetics. The rumor mill does imply Update 3 will directly address these concerns, and hopefully that will be true, but still can't really say the game is redeemed in good faith just yet
Speaking of spin dash, i hope they let tails, knuckles, and amy do it too. It would suck to let only sonic do it.
My bigger problem with the Spin Dash is that you have to go through the long unlock process *every time* you start a playthrough instead of being a one-time unlock like the Cyber Space Power Boost. And if you use NG+ to get it from the start, your stats also transfer over, trivializing everything else in the game. I wouldn’t mind the process considering how OP it is, but it’s so stupid that it’s not a global unlock, especially since it’s already available in Arcade Mode.
@@SilverSpireZ It absolutely does need to be a proper toggle or one time unlock, especially in a game that promotes freedom to play how you want, it still really feels like they wanted to give you an artificial reason to play this new content
Is momentum really that much of a game changer for the game?
For Frontiers it's less of a game changer and more of a really nice upgrade, but future games could greatly benefit from momentum based level design like the koco challenges added in update 2.
To me the real problem of the game IS THAT IM SURE ALL THE VERSIONS ARE THE SAME !! Which means they are all BASED ON THE SWITCH VERSION !
Explaining the low render distance and all that
Dont forget it has the best video game commercial idea used "Dont stop me now" by Queen as the music is genius!
Am i living in a parallel universe? I was there for the launch, i played it again 3 months ago to check if it had improved. The game is rife with pop-in rendering issues, reused assets, and they only used 4 texture packs in the cyberspace levels, the texture packs we already saw in Generations (the city theme is essentially just Unleashed's Skyscraper theme but dulled). Who the f*ck wants to visit Green Hill 9 whole times?
This game felt like and still feels like a Unity Engine experiment tacked onto a Generations demo disc.
Super sonic looks like the original super saiyan depiction from the frieza saga on the thumbnail😅
Correction: Combat was a significant element in Sonic Heroes, in addition to Sonic Unleashed's Werehog stages.
I'm still playing the Game even with the new updates, and still having fun finding new ways to complete the world challenges, fighting the Titans, and enjoying the islands, and music.
I knew i played some of those levels in Generations before! Wish they'd do more levels that wasn't just, Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Sky Sanctuary, and the oddly City Escape esk cyber levels
I just want to correct you: Sonic Frontiers already had that momentum you talked about when it released. It just was not used in the game that much, mostly just launching off rails and platforms when boosting. The new platforming challenges however do use it kinda, they make you boost off the platforms to reach other platforms, which is a neat touch.
I feel like every new Sonic game is always being critizised regardless anyway. I think Frontiers is really fun.
JakeCenZ and 90% of people here are delusional. This is not a great redemption for the game. It was fucking amazing at launch. Best Sonic game, full stop. A choa garden is the only thing more I want.
The problem is the treat sonic like he's not a super hero, put him in a city have him break dance on walks, finishers , him slowing down times, different powers from different amounts of rings and emeralds, things like that's. Like thinks spiderman but some and there you go, you've got the best sonic game ever. Give sonic class, slowing down times to redirect on run on enemies attacks, attack with light attack with sound theres so much of a arsenal sonic has and his hand to hand would be outstanding he fights knuckles people. And if you put him in a mash up with mega man like miles and Peter you can do super just. See I'm a story writer I like awesome and original stuff. Sonic team you guys took a step in the right direction but you also still slept on yourself so for sonic for me. Hero's -A. Frontiers B++
And it's not soul game play for heros the soul thing I think mad hero good was teams blast watching your character kick ass with a planed attack and the story was amazing. So imagine your team running with you, enemies approach and they all break of fighting but frontiers fighting and that's just a little bit of my ideas
Even without replayability, i think sonic frontiers didnt need a redemption. A 25 or so hour game that is fun overall and has some amazing peaks is enough for me to give it the goty. And I LOVED Elden Ring. As much as I love it, it didnt make me sing loud and hop from my chair out of the sheer amount of fun I had playing frontiers for the first time.
Their redemption is great, but I'm still wishing games released WITH all the updates and content there on day 1, not this drip feed stuff. Imagine the reception boost if the Momentum and Playable Characters were implemented in November 2022, and imagine now if the update was actually an entire expansion, being a whole new Ice-themed island with Ice-themed activities and obstacles to stray away from the constant bumper-grindrail-dashpanel dump.
I know devs in a corporation aren't given that much leeway, but if they expect me to pay full price, I'm begging them to let Sonic Team really _meditate..._ and I believe they finally listened with the upcoming Sonic Superstars
I'll give it another shot. By inland 3 I got tired of digital stages. Just skipped the last ones because I had enough whatever to advance and beat the story. Good overall but just that. Updates? I'll wait for 3 and replay I suppose.
Game was enjoyable & amazing from the get go. Everyone’s just chatting like they didn’t 100% it the first night
One thing I've always wanted to do that you still can't do is.. Once you've finished the game like, you should have a mode whereby you can transform into super sonic at any given time like in the old mega drive games sonic 1,2,3 when you got all the emeralds you could transform as soon as you got 50 rings or whatever, that was the coolest shit man.
nah this game is ahs
Haven’t touched a sonic game since heroes and battle 2… time to cop… can’t wait. Reviews are going nuts.
I'm excited for the update 3 I seen the the update that they have released not too long ago bro I'm loving it and I cannot wait to play it I always love sonics the games not all of them of course especially '06 but anyways lol but anyways the new update that dropped not too long ago I'm excited for that I seen a lot of good things and I'm glad they finally fix something that something that we truly want but still bad I'm talking about the final boss come on planet Rock the end really but anyways love the music Love how the gameplay style and I love how they bring back the spin dash I really love that I already do I'm glad they brought it back because I make everything sort of easy / hard but I never got the extreme hard mode I don't know what am I supposed to do on that but anyways that's besides the point the point is that I'm excited for the 3rd update bro looks amazing being said of course you have good things about it and you have the bad things about it for me the only thing that saved the game is the gameplay and the artwork also the music and the classic music they have bring back which is the juice box but anyways I love the music and I love that band as well bro the music was hit I like the first boss music and the third boss music as well also the only thing I do have problem with it's too stiff You can barely move Sonic to left and right and that's the only problem let's see I'm glad they fixed the speed for cyberspace missions I'm glad but also again the left and right problem it's too stiff but other than that there's no problem but I pretty sure all I said doesn't make no sense but that's okay
The game is good but it would be a 10 out of 10 is they added choas again. Don't know why they didn't do the choas like adventure battle 2 on the GameCube
Sonic Forces was not hard but frustrating due to outright bad level design, they made stages that went from safe for a second to pit fall the next or that lead you forward some sort of instant death, that's not hard just annoying, look at Sonic Generations which is another somewhat hard Sonic game and how well they handled the stages there, lots of obstacles and danger but where not out to make you instantly die 5 times per level.
did anyone else catch the Jpeg artifact in the top of Sonic's eye @ 2:41 before i did? How the f*ck do you miss a golden bar code like that? XD
Genuinely a really good, fun game.
I still Don’t like the way you unlock spindash, I’m fine with it needing to be unlocked, i am not fine with the way its unlocked.
Don't have the Frontiers, Do you think the pop-in breaks the gameplay immersion?
Interesting! Keep up the good work!
It just ruins the perception of a game when it releases with all those hiccups. Look at the newest pokemon. I am gonna go and give sonic a chance.