TLO is such a good sport going in for the handshake after the match. Usually the players ignore each other after the game which makes the game feel somewhat more casual. They're both in the same room. Not on different continents like in regular online matches.
Karlis Andersons yeah he’s awesome! One of my favorite videos was back in WoL on that space platform map shaped like a U he went from hellions straight to BC. It was amazing!
I feel people get salty and feel like it shouldn't count when someone wins in creative innovative ways like Has does. Frankly I feel like the person who wins deserves to win. When you walk into a game of SCII you should be aware that your opponent can use any and everything in the game to beat you. There's no code of honor in this game, you should be able to use every dirty trick and means at your disposal to win and it shouldn't be considered any less of a win than if you'd won in the "meta" way. This is how metas evolve, and honestly Starcraft would be a more interesting, diverse, and fun game if people tried new and unorthodox tactics like these more often. The way this game dies is when everyone plays the exact same thing and everything stagnates. The moment the players stop evolving new strategies is when this game stops becoming something worth playing in my book.
Indeed, the meta right now involves zerg getting 3 bases asap and as a response T and P push them in deadly times. My response; 1.5 bases deadly push, win 90% of times in this meta with that.
Yes, it's sad when people use normal game mentality about comp. In comp - you are on your own. It's even sadder, however, when people are influenced enough by the comp mentality to use it in normal games that are, after all, supposed to be for fun. Overwatch is a prime example of a game dying from that. This is what creates toxicity, cheaters and disheartened people.
Pretty sure if you hold Z to morph loads of zerglings your APM spikes super high. I fyou actually try spamming like 4 hotkeys + box select it's very hard to even reach 600.
Who remember the time when TLO was one of the gods of original/unorthodox strategy? Seeing him getting borderline pranked/trolled here is sad... the dude invented turbo 1/1/1 thor drop ffs
I dont get people who consider cheese as a negative thing. I mean SC is a game of strategy and attacking first and catching your opponent offguard is a great strategy in any war. As they say, all is fair in love and war!
If you wanna see some more cheesy StarcCraft 2 games, look no further than the sOs vs INnoVation finals in GSL S3 that starts in just mere 11 hours and 44 minutes after this comment has been posted :D
If Has becomes a team coach or strategist and advices maru, sos, hero, naniwa, etc those protoss players are not only going to be about sick timing and micro. They’re going to have what has lacked: good micro skills and map awareness. And Has is gonna contribute his tactics.
Every player nightmare would be has starting with oracle production tech and a 3k mineral and gas bank at the begining of the game it would be a total nightmare and this is just a random passing thought.
Banelings are not a counter to zealots. End of story. Hold on, it was not the end of the story. Hydras are not a counter to mass oracles. Now it truly ends. In both cases, scout early on and find out what is happening, make defense structures then take it to the sky to have a slim chance to win. Or simply call gg early on. Does he play to win or does he play to delay a defeat for as long as possible? The amount of resources he poured into making tier 1 units the moment he found out about the gold base and the zealot rush is mind-boggling. Sir TLO, you are already behind the moment you scouted what is happening.
Tlo should have made 1 of these two things. make a few lings to make sure the oracles stay in sos base. or mass spore crawlers beacuse sos invested alot in canons.
TLO just played this all wrong. 50+ hydras with no mutlaisk/viper or infestors to shut down oracles? Oracles is not the hardest unit to counter especially in mass like raven's are. Which is why you don't see it happening all the time in pro league. It's only good when you fault to counter it which is why it's a cheese strategy.
phoenix hard counter mutalisks, and protoss already has the stargate infrastructure to produce them. even if the mutalisks are unscouted, protoss will incur massive damage with the oracles because you have to invest 200/200 for the spire and bank 800/800+ to produce mutas when the spire is complete.
7:30 guy shouts "YEAHH!!!" Way too excited about one probe kill hahaha XD
yesss
Maybe the guy just really loves zerglings?
I had to pause when that happened to laugh
Roddy: "This is the most Has game i have seen in a while."
You know you made it as a StarCraft legend when your name becomes an adjective. :)
a zerg gets zerg rushed by a protoss... got to love HAS.
In SCII Zerg is the only race that cant "zergrush" the enemy
yep
@@antrosyd sad right
When you forget WCS is coming up so you only play monobattles
4:24 Protoss: "THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!"
they tkrr orrr joooobs! derke deeerrr jerrrbs
TLO is such a good sport going in for the handshake after the match. Usually the players ignore each other after the game which makes the game feel somewhat more casual. They're both in the same room. Not on different continents like in regular online matches.
Karlis Andersons yeah he’s awesome! One of my favorite videos was back in WoL on that space platform map shaped like a U he went from hellions straight to BC. It was amazing!
I feel people get salty and feel like it shouldn't count when someone wins in creative innovative ways like Has does. Frankly I feel like the person who wins deserves to win. When you walk into a game of SCII you should be aware that your opponent can use any and everything in the game to beat you. There's no code of honor in this game, you should be able to use every dirty trick and means at your disposal to win and it shouldn't be considered any less of a win than if you'd won in the "meta" way. This is how metas evolve, and honestly Starcraft would be a more interesting, diverse, and fun game if people tried new and unorthodox tactics like these more often. The way this game dies is when everyone plays the exact same thing and everything stagnates. The moment the players stop evolving new strategies is when this game stops becoming something worth playing in my book.
Indeed, the meta right now involves zerg getting 3 bases asap and as a response T and P push them in deadly times. My response; 1.5 bases deadly push, win 90% of times in this meta with that.
Yes, it's sad when people use normal game mentality about comp. In comp - you are on your own. It's even sadder, however, when people are influenced enough by the comp mentality to use it in normal games that are, after all, supposed to be for fun. Overwatch is a prime example of a game dying from that. This is what creates toxicity, cheaters and disheartened people.
Nick T the irony of how you responded to a statement about toxicity is damaging to me.
@@tommydoez well have to tell autistic kids the harsh reality of their situation😇😇😇
perfectly said, saved that comment in my notes, perfect observation!
I love Has, he is so refreshing to watch!
that actually makes sc2 so much more interesting
Can't spell cheese without Has in it
cheese
just did it
you must be fun at party
sOs has a few words about that. xD
If only that wasn't the most overused joke ever it might have some weight to it
Jagger Murloc I guess the truth in that jokes makes up for the weight
7:31 lol that guy in the crowd "YEA!"
6:11 1696 apm
Seladon Boulard wtf? so fast
so much useless action
And still can't beat tier 1 units...
Pretty sure if you hold Z to morph loads of zerglings your APM spikes super high. I fyou actually try spamming like 4 hotkeys + box select it's very hard to even reach 600.
1700 apms not enough to kill monobattle fanatics awkward af
I am a simple player. I see Has plays, I press like
I wonder what Has was thinking when TLO came over to shake his hand. his facial expression is really telling something
I think it was happy confusion
The long vids are my favorite! Do more like these
13 minute 0/0 zealot rush... insanity...
10:50 WW2 Germany's special tactic against the Mannerheim's line. Just go around
Pop goes the zergling (over the hatchery) 2:47
I didn't know TLO was still playing professionally I liked cheering for him back in the day.
I love seeing oracles cut through mass hydras like butter.
I can actually feel TLO's anger from my computer screen...
@12:57 ok. I'm done here with this game.
Scherzo Herzo I would of been raging so hard
That's pretty much anybody playing against Has or sOs, I think.
Jesse Brown would *have
6:54 that head shaking is priceless.
Who remember the time when TLO was one of the gods of original/unorthodox strategy? Seeing him getting borderline pranked/trolled here is sad... the dude invented turbo 1/1/1 thor drop ffs
"hold out baits to entice the enemy, feign disorder... then crush him!" -Sun Tzu
Mr. Creativity vs Mr. Cheese. What else would you expect.
Look at TLO. Even after losing to mass oracle cheese from Has, he still goes over and shakes the guy's hand.
I dont get people who consider cheese as a negative thing. I mean SC is a game of strategy and attacking first and catching your opponent offguard is a great strategy in any war. As they say, all is fair in love and war!
"i could build mutas but i wont" -TLO
3:12, what's with the 1000 apm
6:44 that one zergling that’s like “aww shit gotta go”
4:22 commentary, my sides.
Artosis and todd are the best caster duos out there
this is the real-time of the legacy of the void opening ending: bunches of zealots vs zerglings
Don't try to counter Oracles with Hydra. And mass Zealots on Gold is legit strat. Got it.
If you wanna see some more cheesy StarcCraft 2 games, look no further than the sOs vs INnoVation finals in GSL S3 that starts in just mere 11 hours and 44 minutes after this comment has been posted :D
Ok I check it out in 11 hours when it start
Daaaaaamn that level of cheese is making me, a frenchman, unconfortable
If Has becomes a team coach or strategist and advices maru, sos, hero, naniwa, etc those protoss players are not only going to be about sick timing and micro. They’re going to have what has lacked: good micro skills and map awareness. And Has is gonna contribute his tactics.
I struggle to have 100 APM at some games, and TLO casually has 1000+ at some points
you can have 1000+ by pressing one button
have you tried playing the game a lot?
I average like 300 apm its not very hard
someone yelled YES! when the probe died at 07:30 xD
Love how Has use the Zergrush against the zerg by using zealots. I used to to them together with the void rays years ago.
The end in a nutshell:
Omae wa mou... Shindaru...
*Nani?¿??????*
wtf did i just witness?
A big pile of dead zealots on top of a slightly bigger pile of dead lings and drones.
The first game was basically the opening cinematic of LotV
Those Zealots were awesome!
The mass oracle game feels like a Bronze League Heroes game, but with five times the apm and much better micro
give david kim every nobel prize imaginable for his great work on this game. and an oscar too.
God damn I love Has.
Woah
Fox always tells the truth woah
Cak woah
Fox always tells the woah
yes?
woah
What a fucking play HAS is a genius
Every player nightmare would be has starting with oracle production tech and a 3k mineral and gas bank at the begining of the game it would be a total nightmare and this is just a random passing thought.
HAS scares me
Absolute madman.
Why not go Muta vs the oracles :o He had so much gas
Wish they would start uploading full games.
I really need to see Has vs sOs and get my ticket to cheesetown
ahhh that voice going super high pitch really drives the point in.
Has is the most interesting player
Cheesing used to be TLO's job in early WoL lol.
Imagine if IdrA still played this game and something like this happened to him
Oh god can't imagine Idra's face if he lost to pure zealot spam: "toss imba, roach's really are terrible units"
the zealot at 2:37 killed 9 workers....... gg nerf protoss
Lurkers against Mass Oracle is exactly what I would expect from the "creative" TLO.
I think except for zergling zerg cant harass early because mutas are useless anyways.
Banelings are not a counter to zealots. End of story. Hold on, it was not the end of the story. Hydras are not a counter to mass oracles. Now it truly ends. In both cases, scout early on and find out what is happening, make defense structures then take it to the sky to have a slim chance to win. Or simply call gg early on. Does he play to win or does he play to delay a defeat for as long as possible? The amount of resources he poured into making tier 1 units the moment he found out about the gold base and the zealot rush is mind-boggling. Sir TLO, you are already behind the moment you scouted what is happening.
I think zerg is getting destroyed by early rush which I thought zerg used to do that what is zerg good at now late game?
Realistically Zerg only has lings/bane early. Maybe a timing with roaches, but it's risky as hell pushing roaches vs Protoss.
wtf those hydras just melted so quick. that was A LOT of hydras
TLO was finding a hammer at the end of the game.
Did you see TLO's face at the end! I feel bad for him!
How can you not fucking love Has? The guy with negative amount of fucks given.
OMG HE "HAS" AIR, QUICK MAKE HYDRAS!... T.T
BALANCED
of course
Thought this was a new game, then the MS core popped
POWER OVERWHELMING!
Tlo should have made 1 of these two things. make a few lings to make sure the oracles stay in sos base. or mass spore crawlers beacuse sos invested alot in canons.
cheese on steroids!! triple doses!
Oracle OP
pure zelots winning a zerg , what a boss
the mega cheeser
HasuObs sure looks different these days.
AYY TLO'S BACK
Has is the reason the Oracle got nerfed
Has has it all.
2:34 look at that zerg players APM what the fuck
This is what became of starcraft 2.... wow.....
no this is has, it's different
All games are 1 on 1. The hell so they mean by teams.
Oh chrono boost pylon how i miss you
I see Has I click
*GET REKT TLO*
Holy oracles
For the Swarm :D
Creativity my ass, 5 corruptor could have shut that down
wtf!! 6:07 1600 apm
Oracles beating hydralisks is cancerous
If you compare all the units thay are good at harrassment, oracles are the most unbalanced.
Damn oracles exta dmg vs light needs to be nerfed lol
Protoss is the coolest race and has is their leader
Amazing player
all I'm saying is one corrupter, or muta could have reeked havoc.
I understand oracle nerf now
TLO was beaten by the Taiwan Kung fu master!
Game 2: no Infestors? Seriously?
Not the economy for it? But for 60+ Hydras?
what if he got 55 hydra's, and 3 infestors? ;o
Infestor is terrifying. I lost tons of games to getting all my Phoenix or Oracle fungaled
git gut and apply pressure through out the game I hate being oracle rushed cause I cant go for a god damn third if I dont have infestors on time
TLO just played this all wrong. 50+ hydras with no mutlaisk/viper or infestors to shut down oracles? Oracles is not the hardest unit to counter especially in mass like raven's are. Which is why you don't see it happening all the time in pro league. It's only good when you fault to counter it which is why it's a cheese strategy.
Why not go mutalisks?
phoenix hard counter mutalisks, and protoss already has the stargate infrastructure to produce them. even if the mutalisks are unscouted, protoss will incur massive damage with the oracles because you have to invest 200/200 for the spire and bank 800/800+ to produce mutas when the spire is complete.
in summary: because phoenix
when Protoss has triple stargates, you dont want to build mutas
legionofpie Has had 4 stargates. Are you high? He could build up a Phoenix fleet with anion pulse crystal and destroy mutas in no time
Why didn't he just get some mutas?
Anyone else mass zealots after watching this game? I know I was inspired.
Has cheesed in his pants