Countdown - The Most Extraordinary Numbers Game Ever?
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- From 1997 - James Martin's Numbers Game - This has got to be the most amazing numbers game answer ever - This video was originally hosted on another account. However, after his account was closed I thought I would upload this video. - All copyright remains with Yorkshire Television and ITV Productions - PLEASE COMMENT!
To explain why he's done this for people who might not understand:
He wants to go from 318 to 952, and he figures 3x318 - 2 = 952.
But! He doesn't have a 3 or a 2 at that point; he's just got 75, 50 and 25 left. He knows 75/25 = 3, and 50/25 = 2. But you can only use the 25 once. So in his mind he's thinking
3 x 318 - 2 = 952
(75/25) x 318 -- (50/25) = 952
So the only way to avoid using the 25 twice is to multiply & subtract first:
(75x318-50)/25 = 952
And he's worked that out without ever needing to know what 75x318 actually is.
Great explanation, thank you. Seems so much simpler now.
I saw this video years ago... And then it pops up in my feed today, just in time to see this explanation. Nice.
Thankyou Jesus
Algebra. Dang.
It's weird that we're supposed to be more impressed that he didn't know than if he did.
While watching this as a kid i always wondered why they bothered having an entire clock if they only used half of it.
Top comment of the week
Well they couldn't call it "count down then back up the other side" could they?
@@lordsummerisle87 Well they could have at least used some other measurement instrument that didn't waste space?
Cause of the dong.
Because at first it was reset by continuing back up to the top.
I don’t know why this is in my recommended but I’m not mad about it
Coz the algorithm is fucked coz they're trying to erase PewDiePie
Same. I was on the Graham Norton recommendation train and suddenly this pops up
Cuz same
Think it is in my recommendations due to watching '8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown'
You don't watch anything to do with jimmy carr, 8 out of 10 cats or any of the other comedians that do their show do you cause that would explain it, because that's why its in my recommend, usually you have to have something vaguely slimier that you have watched for UA-cam to recommend.... people who just say oh it randomly went in my recommends obviously don't know anything about how html5 or coding works, it's not magic... lol
I love how the host, after the answer is like, "out of curiosity, how did you get 953," and the other contestant sounds like, "Ah, who cares..."
That's basically true. I thought I had it.
But it's pretty straight forward to get 953.
100 x (3+9)
add 50
75/25 = 3
Add to 950, 953
@dahorn100011 i got that 953 in about 2 seconds but I couldn't get that 952 in 30 seconds
@@dahorn100011 that's 1253, I'm guessing that first 9 is supposed to be a six right?
@@85Portar yes
THATS NUMBERWANG
32? Yes that's Numberwang!
+Jettera Ismabash I'm afraid that's numberwank
0.57?
That's the Numberwang bonus!!! Trippe Numberwang to Julie!!
DEATHWANG
Rachel Riley could have done 318 x 75
+I hate everyone. Yes, you too. Carol got better as she got older, with Rachel it will probably be the other way around.
+I hate everyone. Yes, you too. What?
Could you be any more disrespectful, wait you probably could. Don't answer that.
+hobofuture Who cares if she would have done it! She just looks better (hotter)! lol!
+SR1Records Vorderman was a late bloomer
I can see how he did it without knowing what 318 * 75 was.
What he essentially did was ((318 * 75) - 50)/25
which, simplified, is the same as 318 * (75/25) - (50/25)
which is 318 * 3 - 2.
which is 952. Very clever.
Still don't get it.
***** Absolutely
Are you allowed to use a number twice though, as in use the 25 twice?
amazed66 No, he's not using 25 twice. It's just saying you're dividing both numbers by the 25, since it's all in brackets.
My reading of this is that he saw that he could get another 3 from 75/25 to multiply by the 318 and get 954, two over the target. He then saw that by counting in 25s, 50 was the two he needed to subtract and that is how he got to the "multiply by 75, subtract 50 and then divide by 25" as the solution. This is essentially what you said but I don't believe that he actually formulated the calculation as you wrote it, which is why he was unsure.
It shows that there is a lot more to these puzzles than just trying a few calculations on the numbers.
Our 952 times table went up to 30 so I saw the division immediately.
oh uh whats 952 x 31?
@@pentagonanimates As we learned in school, 952 × 30 = 28,560. So simply add 952 and we get the answer of 29,512.
Edit. I'll be honest, I just did 952 × 30, added 1000 and subtracted 48.
@@michaellavery4899 oka
@@michaellavery4899 looool clown
@@michaellavery4899 that's just witchcraft
Everyone else get the obvious 953 in the first few seconds then thought "that'll fuckin do"?
exactly what i said to myself ha
Ḡαღ♭ℓ℮ℳαḓм@η that'll fucking do, damn right that's what I thought😂😂😂😂😂
haha, hit the nail on the head with that!
I used all the numbers anyway, fuck it
bang on :D
I was happy with my 950.
nocalsteve I was happy with 953 ! I could have taken a year and not got to 952.
Same here mate. But being an ex Croupier and Gaming Inspector, I should have done better.
@@frazerguest2864 (6+3)
× 100
+ 50
?????
Profit
@@stevethea5250 but then you still have 75 and 25 left... and 75/25 is 3
@@Obliviaa oh yeee I'm not great at 25 timestables
The Australian version of Countdown is called 'Letters and Numbers' I think, who here thinks it should be called Count-Down Under?
david astle is my hero
A straight translation from the original Les chiffres et les nombres.
@@andrewguthrie2 It's actually "Des Chiffres et des Lettres" :)
@@pomeriggio5479 Who is Des ? Does this relate to Des Lynam:The Countdown Presenter...?
@@Isleofskye No, Des does not refer to the Countdown presenter
Dang, all I got was “Steadings”
Abdicates.
Tnetennba
I did it a different way and ended up with "Beamrules"
I got ‘news’, but there was no ‘W’.
And what have you been looking into recently?
Gerald’s delivery of his 953 answer was just so funny after all of that
GAMES, JAMES 0:11 RHYMES
@@stevethea5250 woah
@@stephenmcc05 we hit a WOAH
"so i multiplied the amount of atoms by pi squared divided by the cube root of infinity"
"and how about you"
"3 plus 9 timed 100 plus 50"
The northern accent makes it
All I got was tnetennba.
klasing moss!!
Your name is Morris Moss. Is it not?
Fizzy, it's very fizzy, it's fizzy, it's gone fizzy
MrNomadic76 *Maurice
It is not.
This is how uk men in the 90's stated their dominance, 4 from the top is just madness hahaha.
#MadLad
Deffo passive aggressive if you ask me
6 small ones is the equivalent of ordering a phall at an Indian restaurant...
Four from the top guarantees that you get 100, 75, 50, 25. So he'd probably spent a lot of time practising those combinations.
To be fair it gives you a 2 or 3 and 100 everytime, those are very useful numbers, im still a 2 from the top fan though
This feels so impressive and clever, every time I see it.
106 x 3 x (75/25) = 954 is close, but he needs to subtract 2 to hit the target, and he only has a 50. But wait, the "divide by 25" suddenly fits perfectly into that. If you subtract the 50 right before you divide by 25, you actually subtracts 2 from the end result. He sees that, and figures it out, all in 30 seconds. So sharp.
Yes, that´s why he did not know how much 318 x 75 was, cause he did not need it.
That’s awesome… thank you for the breakdown
Exactly he didn't know the answer but knew what would happen after.
@@bowlchamps37well he is right on the 23,850 but & yes the rest of the equation was correct after doing some calculations myself. And that may have been far better than any of us would have had. I only got to 900 on this round.
Tbh, it is not THAT impressive. Maybe it was decades ago in a game show though.
You could go even higher with the multiplication if you wanted to:
100 + 3 = 103.
103 x 75 = 7725.
7725 x 6 = 46,350.
46,350 / 50 = 927.
927 + 25 = 952.
Underrated comment 🙏🙏
Well done.
No way you did it in 30 seconds
Holy fuck
Yeah, with a calculator and more time.
His strategy is very clever. He asks Carol for the 4 biggest numbers 100 75 50 and 25. He then uses those numbers as ratios of 25 so (100/25 = 4) (75/25 = 3) and (50/25 = 2). Essentially guaranteeing himself 2 picks of 4, 3 and 2 and a large number (100 in this case) every numbers round. Crazy.
Not only that, he made himself some cheese on toast just before the show which helped him concentrate.
@@Smellmipoo4932 don't forget how good he was at words either. TNETENNBA was such a good word!
Yes👍
And i think he has done a lot of practice before going on as well
I'm not too shabby at arithmetic but this is the level of a savant
@@DemonetisedZone Yes, always choosing four big numbers means the games often go in very similar ways, so it's possible to practice. This case looks spectacular because of the large numbers but, as he says in the video, he didn't actually work out those big numbers. He wants to multiply by 3 and subtract 2, which would look pretty ordinary. But he doesn't have a 3 and a 2, so he uses 75/25 and 50/25 instead. Except that would use the 25 twice, which isn't allowed. So he multiplies by 75, subtracts 50 and then divides the answer by 25 to get the same effect, legally. That's why he was able to get the answer without knowing what 318*75 is.
Could you use that in a sentence?@@lachlanhines7644
If this man was born 500 years ago he would've been burned at the stake, but in the 90s his talent got him a countdown teacup
And a plunge into a flushing toilet from Chad
The real W is Carol calling you incredible
the things we take for granted.
He'd have taught Issac Newton before his demise.
That he did that in 30 seconds, on TV, is insane, credit to him, that is brilliant
It's a nice approach but not really insane. He purposely chose all 4 big numbers (25, 50, 75, 100) because they form nice ratios. He actually found the calculation "106×9=954" which is only 2 away, so he has to subtract 2. Also there is no 9 but a 3 so he can do "106×3×3-2" Now it was only a matter of how to get another 3 and a 2. Because of the nice ratios of the big numbers he got them (75/25=3 50/25=2). And because he only has one 25 he used the distributive law: 318×3-2 is the same as (318×75-50)/25. 3:55
its not difficult, especially with practise as he knows that by doing (x*75-50)/25 he is basically doing x*3-2
still impressive to do it under pressure though
Legend has it that Jon Richardson keeps a copy of this video in his home in case he needs an emergency adrenaline shot.
He uses cocaine instead, and I think it shows
Rumour has it, he's still getting noshed off by all the grannies in the audience that day
John Cooper think they're dead mate
@Chris Landry fucking hell mate
There is a false teeth joke to be made but I’m in to much of a gross mood to make it myself.
@Chris Landry THESE 2 ARE SOAKING WET 3:55
Hahahahaha
I just love how much Carol is laughing and enjoying this
she was drunk
@@INeedANewHandle Seems like it huh
Sounded false to me ,think she was pissed off cos she didn't get there first
Buying time so the producers in the gallery could work out the answer on their calculator and feed her the answer on her ear piece.
@@neilhartley5372 Think you might be right there
At first I was like why tf is this in my feed then I remembered that I had just binged every episode of 8 out of 10 cats does countdown lol
Same here. One clip of Taskmaster gets featured on Reddit, and suddenly a bunch of us Americans get flooded with Channel 4 shows lol
Doctor Medkit or germans
Yep same
The thing about 8/10 Cats does Countdown is, I get really annoyed that they aren't taking the Countdown stuff more seriously.
The jokes are fine, but the Countdown stuff actually prevents from enjoying them. I see letters and numbers at the bottom of the screen and I go straight into competitive mode.
Same for me too, except for the ones weirdly missing from All 4 with no explanation.
What I like about this is Vorderman wasn't pretending to have worked out the answers. Which she could have done, but like the rest of us she was so surprised by the turn of events.
Her reaction makes this all the more comical
Mrs Vorderman to you.
@@testtubeaccident7805 She's divorced
@@lotuseater7247 Who isn't divorced these days?
@@AlcatrazHR me. The point was they said Mrs. Apparently she stated that she has a friend with benefits. Lucky guy.
What makes this great is that he didn't even mention how unorthodox his method was. He just came out with it casually.
There is nothing unorthodox about mathematics.
@Oliver McCall in your mind maybe.
@Oliver McCall I totally get your point. 👍
@Oliver McCall so addition, division, multiplication and subtraction are not normal😂😂😂😂
@Oliver McCall lol. That's true. Ya gotta miss Richard.
Yeah but can he do it on a cold tuesday night in Stoke?!
Jamonga100 Few can!
+Jamonga100 im from stoke too, weird init
Up the Potters..
Top bantz m8
Jamonga100 can he do it in front of 50000 at wembley
This is like John Carpenter ringing his Dad, not to ask for his help (phone a friend in Who Wants to Be a Millionaire) but telling him he IS going to be a millionaire, brilliant!
Except he won a teapot and not a million dollars. (Britain in a nutshell)
That was an incredible thing to work out in the 30 seconds he had. I think that what he realised fairly quickly was that if he adds the 100 to the 6 and multiplies it by three twice he gets 954 - just 2 away, One 3 is there directly so how to get the other 3? Well 75/25 = 3. The only trouble is that we need to subtract another 2 from that total to bring it down to 952 and we only have the number 50 left. But, 50/25 = 2 so, rather than just taking 318 X (75/25), we could do it as (318 X 75 - 50)/25. That way the 25 serves to reduce the 75 to 3 and the 50 to 2 all in one go :) The give away was that he didn't realised what 318 X 75 made. He didn't need to know this intermediate figure with the method above.
Correct
Carol's laugh is more funny than the outrageous sum, she has a good sense of humour.
She has the dirtiest laugh since Sid James
I agree she brings a good energy to the show
Numbers are hysterical I agree
To me she comes across as a giggling fool. What humour is she sensing? I'm betting it's an act for telly.
the american version of this game was cancelled in 17 minutes due to mass inability to think.
Why is there so much unprovoked xenophobia on these British TV clips?
Is that part of what they teach you on your little island?
Why is there so much unprovoked bombing the shit out of things on everywhere?
Aaron Fisher We can only assume jealousy plays a part. I can assure you that it only seems to be on the Internet; I've not met many in person who randomly spouts this crap.
+Aaron Fisher Hahahaa oh dear speak for yourselves
Moonspell67 haha
For those who are confused, he just can’t used the 25 twice that’s why he puts both parts inside the brackets and divides the whole thing with 25. Gets the same answer as dividing each individual number by 25. A pretty common strategy done on this game actually. This just uses bigger numbers than usual so gives the illusion it’s more complicated
It's not an illusion mate
Well done.
"Yes, same way Richard. Yup.".
[eats evidence to the contrary]
Cant believe he worked this out in thirty seconds. Amazing.
01:50 "And then dividing by something": pure definition of anxious waiting.
I knew I shouldn't have skipped class that day when they were covering the 952 times table.
I knew I should stayed for the 30 times table, but it only went up to 951...
I learned how to cheat at tables tests as soon as it reached 7 so I guess I never reached 952.
Carol "you want to multiply by 75?"
Maths genius" yes, that's exactly what we're doing"
Carol: *throffing intensifies*
Don't worry Carol, Rachel Riley is here to rescue you from doing your job.
@@ColinRichardson Oof, too soon!
What’s throffing?
her face when he says.... "I'd like to multiply by 75" is priceless
There is always someone out there cleverer than yourself.
Hi neilswann80! Thanks for the reply! Lol! Now, is that 1 person supposed to be me?! Actually there always is the 1 cleverest person himself who is the cleverest. Good Point! With Best Wishes! Cheers - Mike.
Lol! Delusional mate!
*****
OK?!
more clever
Probably not me but I'm content.
i love how when carol was asked to divide that she was just like "yea... ill take your word for it..."
I actually did the sequence on the calculator and it was correct.
You only need to times the 238 bit by 4, which will give you 952.
Obviously he mastered those manipulations of the big numbers, that's why he asks for all of them. So there are 3 variables instead of 7. It's a great strategy. I wish my brain could wrap around that logic more intuitively. It was clear he made an equation so he didn't have to do all the multiplication and division, but I would have no idea how to do that.
I think this is what went though his mind:
quickly find the easy (3+6)*100+50+75/25=953, only one away, let's take some time to try and get an exact answer
maybe something with 100*3*75/25 = 100*9 = 900, having 6 and 50 left. won't get you any closer.. maybe multiply the 6 by 9 as well to get 54 so:
(100+6)*3*75/25 =900+54 = 954, having 50 left. Now when you've written that down as a fraction:
(100+6)*3*75
---------------------
25
and you know you're 2 off, it's easy to see that you can add/subtract 2 by adding/subtracting 50 from the numerator. Then you arrive at 952. No need to calculate 318*75
+kroppyer Yes! Nicely explained
He quickly found out 318*3= 954. (106*3*75/25). Needs 2 to subtract. That is the minus 50 devided by 25. He did not need to know the intermediate high number, he knew the final result is 954-2.
😶
Tracie Irene you done well to explain it
funny seeing people posting easier solutions, they had all the time needed to come up with their solution, on the show you get 30 seconds.
***** and no calculators.
Yeah and with that irritating music going on.
In this case, that is the optimal solution, its not about knowing how to quickly multiply big numbers, its understanding how you can make use of the factor of 25.
If carol wrote the solution out in one go, it would all have cancelled down to 952 without having to do that big multiplication.
Well I got my 953 in 15 seconds without a calculator :P
@@Slimmeyy Too bad that's not the goal number
Even I gave that guy a round of applause 25 years later.
Me too
divide that by 25
Now THAT is the epitome of ‘method in the madness’. Brilliant 😁
Just watched the middle section from " 318 " 6 times now and it's still hilarious because of it's uniqueness and his audacity but also because he stopped her taking the mathematical shortcut by telling her to wait for the large division which would have saved her having to work it out and also what was great was after the " 23,850" Carol is awaiting the large subtraction to get the amount down and he, merely, subtracts just " 50"...Brilliant !
There would never have been a large subtraction as the most he could have subtracted is 125. Carol actually asked him "Are you going to divide by something else?"
It's to be expected to fuss around up there. Why doesn't she expect the option? Are the answers usually like (12+3)/5 or some shit I could do?
While this is impressive there's actually another way to get it without venturing into such big numbers. This is how I got it, I can't imagine I'm the only one.
75 x 6 = 450
450 / 50 = 9
100 + 3 = 103
103 x 9 = 927
927 + 25 = 952
To me this was easier to see than the way he got it.
+BrettMKW
Yes impressive.
Did you do that in 30 seconds?
***** Yeah, just how my mind works. I see that 927 can be factored into 103 x 9 pretty intuitively, and that adding the 25 gives the 952. That was the easy part for me, the tough part was getting to the 9 but taking a number and multiplying by 75 then dividing by 50 is the same as multiplying by 1.5, and 6 x 1.5 = 9. There's been a lot of complex solutions that I can't solve with an easy way but this was one I figured out quite nicely.
Very impressive!
My friend Steve is like that. A human calculator.
***** Thanks, I've always been good at mathematics up to calculus level (calculus wasn't so easy for me) but I struggled with english and history throughout school. By the way this guy didn't multiply 318 by 75 in his head or even on paper in 30 seconds. He knew that multiplying by 75 then dividing by 25 is the same as multiplying by 3, and 318 x 3 = 954. By subtracting the 50 inbetween he knows it subtracts 2 from the final answer. It's really a brilliant solution. If you want more you should search the name George Ford, he does solutions like this all the time like nothing.
+BrettMKW
Mathematics is in my opinion the purest form of science.
I'm generally good at science but average at math.
One of my hobbies is Astronomy. Possibly the oldest branch of science.
Thanks for the breakdown on the number crunching!
When I was younger, I used to watch the show that inspired this. It was a French show called "Des chiffres et des lettres". It wasn't an exciting show by any means, but I was fascinated by how people could solve the problems.
I used to watch it as well when I lived in Belgium as a kid.
Same! It aired in Eastern Canada!
I sometimes just return to this video because I really enjoy everyone's amazement at this guy's skills.
That's numberwang!
That was a classic sketch
LATCHCOMB!
I'm an intellectual because this was in my recommended. *updates CV
ua-cam.com/video/bhf0XRlEmcw/v-deo.html
LMAO
Carol: That is 318
James: Now multiply that by 75
Carol: and then you're going to divide that right?
James: Yes, but not right away
Carol: ...
Carol: What will you divide it by?
James: 25, but before that I want to subtract 50
Carol: You mean we have to actually work out this value?
Pretty epic answer.
Others have already addressed how he did it, but to summarise, he essentially used mental algebra and factorisation rather than straight mental arithmetic, which is why he didn't know what the intermediate value of 318 * 75 equalled, only that [(318 * 75) - 50] / 25 was 952, due to 318 * 3 = 954 and 954 - 2 = 952. From (318 * 3) - 2 comes (318 * 75/25) - 50/25, and then he essentially factored out the 25 so he could reuse it.
(As for how he worked out that 318 * 3 = 954, it's essentially a rearrangement of 106 * 9 = 954; adding small numbers to the large ones is a common strategy to 'adjust' the total and essentially 'reuse' a multiplier)
Carol was pushed beyond her design specs and started to break up.
He just divided 50 and 75 by 25 in his head to get 2 and 3, and then used order of operations to use 25 "twice". Essentially, all he did was (100+6) * 3=318. 318 * (75/25)-(50/25)=318 * 3-2=954-2=952. He just multiplied by 75 before subtracting so he could "reuse" the 25(this is even clearer when the contestant starts calculating 318 * 75 along with the expert, implying he didn't already). Still neat, but doesn't look as clever without the heavy lifting...
Absolutely correct, I got that when I was watching it.. he didn't know what 318*75 was. I was surprised Carol didn't call him out on that. Effectively you can turn any simple commutative operation like this into something really impressive by changing the order. Everyone including posters here has fallen for it.
Been avoiding this video on my recommended for weeks,
Finally decided to click on it and I'm not disappointed!!
😮
Same mate!
👏 that was (without A shadow of a doubt ) the most amazing numbers game I have ever seen in countdown
He probably started with 106*9=954, which is close, but you cannot use the 6 twice, so the you need to find another 3 or a 6. Well, 75/25 gives you 3, so if you go (100+6)*3*75/25 you get 954. I expect this was what Carol was thinking - if he is going to divide by 25 then she only needs to multiply by 3. But he also noticed that if you are 2 out, then before you divide by 25 you are 50 out (2x25). So subtract the 50 before you divide by 25 and you are spot on.
Of course, he has to do this in 30 seconds, and I could only get as far as the 954. Even the other guy had 953. Generally, though, a good tactic is to look for combinations that give you the same number, such as 3 = 75/25, then you can scale up and back down.
This is how he did it so quickly. Notice that 318*3=954 which is 954+2.
And 318=954/3. So when he multiplies by 75: 75*(318) = 75*(954/3) he is scaling up by 25, or to evaluate = 25*954 = 25*(954+2) = 25*954 + 25*2 = 25*954+50. Or to put it another way, the '2' is scaled up by 25 aswell, so taking away 50 will get you to be a factor of 25 away from the target. So you divide by 25 to get the answer.
Why u all talking about 954??? They looking for 952 ya tool
carols reactions were hilarious. i was in stitches!! brilliant
how does this comment not say “12 years ago” because HOW DOES THIS COMMENT NOT SAY “12 YEARS AGO-
English are so polite. When she say "multiply this", he just says "yes, please". I my country it would be like "bitch, do your job".
@@goranmilic442 jeez. where are you from?
Nice to see old Twice Nightly's smiley face once more. A legend, taken far too soon.
I love how Carol laughs in disbelief! 😀
In hindsight, this makes total sense. 318 * 3 is 954. But he needs 952. So he multiplied it by 75 and then divided it by 25, which essentially is the same as 318 * 3. The genius bit is recognizing, that he could take of 2 by subtracting the 50 before dividing by 25. It seems so logical, yet I would not have thought of it even if I was given 30 minutes.
Best explanation out of the 40 i read
I was pleased with getting to 953 quickly for one away and stopped there.
Putting it on paper now, I believe his "method" relied on phrasing the problem in terms of order of operations such that actually knowing the product of the large multiplication step wasn't needed. He knew it would be offset by the ratio of the remaining numbers to get him there. It's just a simple subtraction from there.
Why didn't you teach maths at my school? Much more practical and impressive than the weird stuff I had to spend the final year of O Levels doing.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Thanks. The gentleman who taught me maths was an older soft spoken African expatriate who often told us some little random fact about whatever concept he was going to introduce in the lesson. Perhaps it helped to make the *method* of solution stand apart from the "spade work" of actually crunching the numbers.
In fact, years later, my Calculus instructor for the first two years of Uni also brought *his* sample problems through a method only up to what he called spade work (his term) and stopped.
It was assumed that we could all crunch the numbers by then. He just literally helped us with making sense of the Greek.
@@puirYorick Somehow I got grade A maths but I never understood what we were doing or why in the final year. I just did what we were told to do. I used to play with numbers away from school and came up with most of my mental calculation techniques myself, checking my answers on a calculator, as we just didn't seem to cover that sort of thing in school. I hate how it's almost seen as a badge of honour to be able to say "I don't understand maths, I can't add two and two".
I'd say the two subjects most poorly served by modern education are maths and history.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Certainly a lot of the maths whiz types have a special gift for manipulating numbers in their headspace. I'm okay but nothing special that way.
The concept of left brain & right brain function and the degree of cooperation between the two likely is a huge factor.
There are resource books giving some simple tricks and techniques for "doing maths" but I can't think of any titles myself.
@@puirYorick I might track one or two down. I'm at that age where I need to do a bit of brain exercise.
I got involved in an event where we were asked to do physical exercises that cross the right/left brain a d body divide and I did feel more mentally alert after.
Legend has it this man is now an overseer of illegal street countdown games across the country. Known only as...Number
Numberwang?
I stand by my belief that Carol wasn't laughing because she found it funny, but laughing because she was trying to mask her nervousness at not knowing the calculations and was essentially stalling for time
Yes she's stalling for the production crew to help, you hear someone shout out the 23850 number
@eggymayo3271 well spotted...hadn't heard that before but is clear when listening back with volume up
That was exactly the impression I got when watching this clip.
I think she was being a bit condescending. Haven't you ever had someone who hasn't a clue what you're doing smirking in a 'what's this lunatic doing' tyep way, until the moment it dawns on them you were just doing something they just didn't understand, then the smirk disappears quick to be replaced by surprise. That's what happened here except Carol was hamming it up because it's telly.
well, he wasn't really doing that large multiplication in his head, but something like this may have been his thought process:
954 , close enough, is 106x9 = 106x3x3. So you can do (100+6)*3* (75/25).
Now you need to take away 2. which is 50/25
954-2=(100+6)*3*(75/25) - (50/25)
But unfortunately you already used 25. However if you subtract the 50 before the division with 25, you get to use it for both:
954-2=((100+6)*3*75 - 50)/25.
I loved watching Countdown after school back in the late 90’s
Ah !! Those halcyon days when Carol Vorderman wasn’t made of silicone and plastic 😂😂
I spilt my tea slightly watching this when it first aired. It really was that thrilling
“100 plus 6 then times by 75”
“By 75? Are you sure?”
“Yes, just do it carol”
“Ok, that’s 23,850”
“Now times by 50 plus 3”
“What??”
“Just fucking do it carol”
“And now divide that by 25”
“Really???”
“I said do it because I say so”
“Ok ... and you’re miles off”
“I guess I am, but I’d like a little less reluctance next time”
106 times 75 is not 23,850 tho
@@joshuaizly5502 yes it bloody well is. Show me your workings
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe 7950
I love it how the guy doesn't seem confident in answering but actually has the correct answer. lol
Dude brought algebra to an arithmetic fight.
pretty good. Im quite good myself i can multiply any two numbers. for example.. 3 multiplied by 4 is 12. And i can do that in real life pretty quick. not quite as good as this guy.. but still good.
@RonnyDonny13 Dude, same! And I know 0.5*0.5 is 1!
Wait a minute...
Let me tell you gentlemen it's such an honour to be amongst such superior intellect
Hope to see you all winning the Math Olympiad gold medal one day.
Don't tell me to not get my hopes up.
Ha,remember watching this when it first broadcast. One of Countdown's more memorable moments to be sure -a seriously impressive bit of lightning mental calculation/algebraic insight. Going by memory the contestant was an actual mathematician ,with a degree from Oxford(edit: current Oxford mathematics professor) Consequently, this sort of thing would've been more or less a day at the office for him.
Sort of; but prof mathematicians at that level don't actually do as much with numbers as you might think. They work on more abstract stuff and get computers to do their arithmetic for them.
Lol most mathematicians can't add up a dartboard to save their life
I study maths. I doubt anyone in my course can add 5+8 in less than 10 seconds.
I haven't rly dealt with numbers since linear Algebra in first year. Even then, I had a calculator and haven't practiced pure multiplication since I was 12.
Nah, for a math professor at Oxford it is certain that this sort of thing was NOT part of his daily routine. He probably trained specifically for this, while being very smart about it (picking all 4 big numbers so he dealt with familiar patterns). While quick mental arithmetics isn't most mathematicians' main task, a lot of them would easily add up a dartboard or work out 5+8 quick enough... To get to an advanced level one would have gone through enough training and shown enough talent in math in general.
@@alexpotts6520 Right, but being a mathematician helped him quickly see that "multiply by 75, subtract 50, divide by 25" is the same thing as "multiply by 3 and subtract 2". He wasn't a professor at the time this was filmed -- I'm not sure how old he is, but I think it would have been around the time he was an undergraduate.
We used to do these in math at school near the end of the lesson. At the end we would see a list of all possible solutions which were computer generated, for some of them, depending on what numbers you had to work with, there would be hundreds of solutions, most of us here struggle to find one.
2:10 is where he is revealed to be the absolute genius. he doesn’t know what 318 x 75 is, no one would, but he knows how to scale his answer correctly
Rest in peace Richard whiteley, what a Gent
I met him once. He was an absolute bastard. I asked him how he was and he told me to fuck off and then he kicked my pet ferret.
3:30 please have a minute of silence for a fallen soldier
This guy would be great at Street Countdown
Nice work James, Carol is now damp!
lol quality lol
@Shaun Brennan still would
She needed tampons that day
*moist
@@gatecrasherkz7 damp
Quite a clever Idea. But it is not necessary to do the multiplication in full. Just manipulate the factors.
(100+6) x 3 = 318
318 x 75 = 318 x 3 x 25 = 954 x 25
954 x 25 - 50 = 954 x 25 - 2 x 25 = (954 - 2) x 25 = 952 x 25
952 x 25/25 = 952.
I feel like you're breaking some very important math rules with this abomination
nuraH S This is called factorization and distribution in mathematics. You can break any number up as long as it satisfied certain mathematical conditions. I think you got thrown off by 954*25 - 50 = 954*25 - 25*2 = 25(954-2)= 25*952/25 = 952. The number 25 was never used until the very end so he did not break any rule in mathematics nor the game. I believe the idea of the game was taking all six numbers and get as close to the target number as possible.
***** OK, all the required numbers will be in quotes.
( "100" + "6" ) X "3" = 318
318 X "75" = 318 X 3 X 25 = 954 X 25
Thanks for breaking it down. Looking at these calculations I think I know what he was thinking.
He immediately saw 100 and 6 and easily calculated that 100*9 = 900 and 6*9=54, and 954 is very close to the target so he went along with this idea. He knew he could get that 9 because he had both a 3 and 75/25 available. Now, here's where it turned into crazy big numbers. He need to get off 2 from 954, he had a 50 left to play with and since he already had a division with 25 he could easily get a 2 from 50/25. All it would take was to insert the 50 at the right moment. It was necessary to subtract the 50 after multiplying by 75 and before dividing by 25. Normally, you would just do 75/25, get a 3 and calculate with the 3, which is a walk in the park, but when forced to actually multiply with 75 it sort of blew up to crazy proportions out of nowhere.
Khonh lo He had 30 seconds in a semi pressure environment to solve it, LOL it takes 30sec just to write all yours out :PIn the rules you don't have to use all the numbers, you can only + - * / ,No negative numbers and there is no zero on the cards.I factorize a lot, I always have done, it started out as "double and halving" in multiplication when I was really young and it grew from there, I was always getting in trouble at school for doing this in my head and not showing any "working out" they used to think that I was cheating, LOL nothing like encouraging a child is there.
My high school maths teacher 'Mad Dog' had a game similar to this. He'd pick a year and then a calendar month and you had to try to use the numbers in the year (in order) to make the numbers 1 - 31.
I remember one in particular when he was explaining his choice of year. I was bored, spinning a ruler on my pen. Suddenly my head was yanked back by my hair and I was staring into the eyes of Mad Dog; the sun gleaming off his long mane of frizzy hair that covered a tattoo of a naked woman on the back of his neck that was deemed to risque to expose to the eyes of minors.
'When was the American war of Independence'?! he bellowed.
The answer to this is not really well known in Australia but for some reason I knew the answer and so responded in a feeble tremble '1776?'.
'Lucky' he growled in reply and continued on with his lesson as if nothing had happened.
Ahh school days. But I'll give Mad Dog this, it was him that got me interested in the broader picture of maths. Escher, the history of maths, the oddities. And who could hate the guy that introduced them to the movie Stand and Deliver.
Wow! That was out of the box thinking. Awesome.
Very nice. [(106 * 3) * 75 - 50]/25 simplifies down to 106 * 9 - 2 = 952, which was the actual calculation he'd done.
The trick was putting the numbers together in such a way where you get all that without repeating a digit, which is why the 50 had to be taken off in the middle as opposed to simply subtracting 50/25
Repeating a number, not a digit. The digit "5" gets repeated thrice in "75", "50", "25".
He just reordered the equation to avoid repeating the 25. The computation itself is easy - he didn't even need to know the value of 318*75... what was impressive was how quickly he saw the algebraic juggle.
...incredible! I'm good at some math, but this was quite a challenge! This really could be the most amazing Number Game that Countdown has ever had to offer! Wow!
When he said x75 it made sense.
That's why he didn't know how much 75x318 was ... HE DIDN'T HAVE TO KNOW THAT !!!
318x3 would be 954 so... Using the -50 to get -2 when he divided it by 25 again....BRILLIANT!
It was all about the -2.
if anyone is confused why he did it, he needed a 3, because 3*318 is 952, and 75/25 is 3, so times by 75 and dividing by 25 is essentially just multiplying by 3.
Dude. 3 multiplied by 318 is 954. 3*300=900.......3*10=30.......3*8=24
It's a very clever approach. By picking the 4 big numbers that you know are 25, 50, 75, 100, you can ensure that you have the numbers 2, 3 and 4 at your disposal. Then you have the ability to quickly "double up" numbers to get to your target, then quickly simplifying (as mentioned in the below comment). Every pro should be picking the big 4 !
I think they should too, because it's less likely to lead to solutions where no points are achievable. In six-small games, which seems to be everyone's "difficult" go-to, it leads to impossible games 2% of the time. It sounds like a small percentage, but you have to contextualize it against the other possibilities where you're dealing with 0.1% or 0.2% of numbers and target combinations yielding impossible games. Four-large games are only impossible 0.2% of the time. In 99.8% of them, you can score at least 5 points. Also, you're more likely to have a perfect game with four-large. With six-small, only 83.88% of games can be solved perfectly, but that number rises to 90.46% with the four-large.
Finally, there is nothing truly difficult about the six-small games. As long as you've mastered the technique of factoring, you can solve almost every game that is solvable. Most contestants don't bother to factor the target numbers, admittedly, but still that's a shaky thing to rely on, particularly if you want to go to the series championships and hold your own with the strongest players. Four-large games also often require factoring the number, but there are techniques unique to the four-large games you don't get in other number selections, like the 937.5 rule, the fact that the ratios between the four large numbers are fixed, so you can have uneven ratios like 4:3 or 3:2, and you have unique ways of making necessary numbers. An opponent would have to master all these techniques _and_ factoring as well to meet you on an equal footing in a four-large game.
2009 : nope
2010 : no chance
2011 : still no
2012 : nope
2013 : hell no
2014 : no way
2015 : nah
2016 : no
2017 : nope
2018 : still no
2019 : RECOMENDED
WOW, I don't think I have ever seen Carol flumoxed. She is a walking calculator.
I miss the duo :)
flummoxed I think
Rikk303 LOL, nicely spotted :)
she can only do basic arithmetic in her head.... nothing special.
The way some people can think always amazes me.
30 seconds to work that out. Incredible!
318 times 3 is 954, since 75 is 3 times 25, you can say "times by 75 then divide by 25" and it is effectively times it by three. Since the goal is 952, 2 less than 954, and the only number left is 50, we can actually minus the 50 while it is a large number, because when it is reduced down again (at three times the original) it is also 2 less.
What he actually did: He knows that 318 * 3 = 954, which is two too high. He also had the 75, 50, and 25 remaining, 75/25 is needed to get the 3. He realized that if he used the 50 before dividing by 25, he could use that to subtract the two he needed.
I kinda wished for a moment that he’d get Carol to multiply all of the numbers and after Carol finishes then say that he forgot, Now that would be a good laugh
You youngsters won't be old enough to remember what reality was like before we upgraded it to HD, but this is a pretty good representation.
318*3(75/25)=954 and 50/25=2 and 954 - 2 = 952 genius to come up with this in such a short time span though!
George W. Kush You used 25 twice
Uhmm yes? Thats kind of the point... he does the operations x75 and -50 and divides the result by 25 so It does in fact work on both 75 and 50 it's (318x(75/25) - (50/25). So you could aslo say ((318*75) - 50) / 25 which is exactly the same thing and you only use 25 once.
I don't really understand your sentence, but you're not allowed to use the same number twice in Countdown calculations.
Yeah I know you are not allowed to use the same number twice, but by doing 100 + 6 = 106 * 3 = 318 (We have used 3, 6 and 100 ... so we have 25, 75 and 50 left to use) So then he does 318*75 = 23850 takes 50 away which is 23800 and divides by 25 (23800/25) = 952. You've only used each number once but because you divide the result of 318*75-50 by 25 you can simplify it by writing it as 318*3-2.
George W. Kush your original comment is wrong because you used the 25 to get 3 by dividing 75 by it and to get 2 by dividing 50 by it, is what he's saying.
So he got to the answer without actually working out each step....I can't even begin to imagine how
Algebra
It's because he applied a formula that four-large players know. (75 x 50 +/- 100) / 25 = 146/154, (100 x 50 +/- 75) / 25 = 197/203, and (100 x 75 +/- 50) = 298/302.
James used the last of these, employing the two small numbers to alter the formula until it reached the target. First he added 6 to the 100, and then by multiplying 106 by 3 and then 75, he effectively multiplied it by another 3 (because 75 / 25 = 3). 106 x 3 x 3 = 954. But since he's intending to divide by 25 already, that means that 50 is equivalent to 2. So ((100 + 6) x 3 x 75 - 50) / 25 is equivalent to (100 + 6) x 3 x 3 - 2 = 952
The glory years of countdown rip richard you were the best xx
Yes, I have never watched the new ones.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995they are crap. 30 minutes Richard Whitely era was far better.
Next, you'll tell me he got Tnetennba in the words round.
To be honest it’s not hard to see what he’s done without actually having to know the value of 318 x 75:
He saw that 318 x 3 = 954. What he needed was a way to multiply by 3 and subtract 2. 75/25 = 3. He has no way of getting a 2 to work with at this stage so he had the ingenious idea of subtracting 50 first, and since 50/25 = 2, it would have the overall effect of taking 2 from the final answer to get 952. Like this:
(3-8 x 75 - 50)1/25 = (318 x 3 - 2) = 952. Not so bad. Beautiful though.
This seems very likely indeed given the way it played out. Takes a very agile mind to see this in half a minute. Like most people I'd wager I got to 953 doing the simple stuff.
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it's not as difficult to understand as you think...e.g. say you need 490, and the numbers available are 100, 2, and 5. Take 100 then minus 2 (98) multiply by 5 to get 490. By using minus 2 and multiplying by 5 to begin with you take 10 away at the end.. same principle bigger scale lol you don't always need to know all of the equation to get the answer despite what they teach in school. They never teach you that dividing by 100 and multiplying by 4 is exactly the same as dividing by 25 which is sometimes easier and what he did at the end. You can do this with many different variations of any numbers. In the real world there is no such thing as cheating when it comes to getting the right answer. I used to hate maths because of the way i was taught, now i love numbers!
@@kidneystone53 yep you probably are boring!