I think this is exactly what makes Floor special. She always goes into the lyrics, and really put her all into acting it out both in body language and the way she sings it. And it's rare to find both a great skilled voice and a great story teller. Her stint on Beste Zangers really made that clear to me.
I think exactly same than you. And what we both think about her, I take Floor´s own words (below). In Nightwish new album, there is one song, what is difficult, even Floor, to sing. So, here is her story from interview just few days ago (published 27.1.) This tell much about her, and her working. And also that Tuomas is not really writing pop songs :D , but more complicated songs! Waiting that new album so much !!! Until now, I have read about 4 valuation to it, every each of them are really positive and one was really hype!!! Floor " I had to practice, for sure. REALLY practice. And I really do like the result. It was a challenge. It was so complex that it’s not like “I’ve listened to it and yeah, I’ve got it” and then go from there. I really had to study it. I have to study the melody, I have to study where the words come in, and by the time when we got to the point when the first demos came in and we rehearsed together, I could sing it. As in it sounds okay. But I knew what the lyrics were about but I had no chance to put in the emotion yet. Now I could recite it, basically. When the drum recordings started and I was back home I went through everything for few weeks more. It was daily rehearsals of combining what I knew and felt the song was about to reciting the technical element of the singing of the words and the melodies to get them into singing and storytelling and feeling and transmitting the feeling, emotion and the story - if that makes sense. That was definitely THE challenge. Not that I didn’t understand what I was singing, but to combine everything into something that made it sound 1) easy and 2) comfortable and 3) with the right feeling behind it."
@@jukkahelminen9071 Thanks for copy pasting that snippet of the interview. Floor is such a geek when it comes to singing. And I mean that 100% as a compliment. But I had a feeling that she indeed was this thorough in her work with the songs. Because when she's on stage, she seems like she's just enjoying herself. And to get to that point, you really have to put in the work.
I respect people who work hard very much. Talent is not everything. Of course there are more talented voices out there - the rule of life is that there is always someone better than you.
Based on some of the interviews I saw with Floor, I am convinced that she sings everything intentionally and works it out in detail, i.e. is well prepared and goes the extra miles to find the interpretation that works best for her and the piece, as well as the sections. She also mentioned that she joined the band for the rehearsals from DAY ONE in order to listen and develop the vocals together with the band, which in the past was apparently different for the other singers, who would join the band once they had the music down.
That actually that was not intended by the band. She was intended to join them much later in the rehearsals when most musical parts were nearly done but she had not seen them for a couple weeks so she thought she would drive by and just say "hi". After listening for a while she started to recognize the songs and said "Get me a mike" and started singing along, much to the surprise of Tuomas she knew all the lyrics already from the top her head. Floor thought it was nothing special to be involved that early in the process but the previous vocalist never did that. So that is how that came about. You just gotta love this woman.
Omg i never noticed! That's awesome! I love how they not only sing but have fun interpreting and acting out the lyrics on stage! Their live shows are the best :)
She just did a great interview where she explains the steps to learning a new song and after she learns the words and the music then she studies how to add the emotion to the song.
mommyca2299 thanks, she’s an absolute master at interpretation and conveying emotion. (In addition to the insane ability to make her voice do almost anything she wants it to do)
Even if you don't like Floor, I think her use of various sounds, interpretations and techniques, even within one song, might be insprirational to people who like to learn to sing. This song, the belting in Ghost Love Score, the sweet Shallow, an aria of Puccini and a most beautiful (in Finnish) christmas song Oi jouluyö. So versatile. To me, so far, she's unique.
I hope you're not assuming I dislike her? If I have 10+ videos where I'm reacting to her,. some of which I even tear up in, I hope that's sufficient evidence I love her XD
Floor is always interpreting songs with soul and all her big bag of tricks in service of the lyrics. Never showing off in ways that detract from the feeling. Also, heavier Nightwish still the best Nightwish.
Floor may not be used to classical singing now, she hasn’t done a lot in say the last ten years but she definitely used to be comfortable with it. Just listen to After Forever
Special guest Simone Simons from Epica joins Revamp onstage to duet with Floor Jansen on 'Sweet Curse.' Recorded at the Metal Female Voices festival, Wieze, Belgium on 23 October, 2010
@@despairingleonardo Sorry, english is not my primary language, what I wanted to say is that Floor isn't trying to sing the songs willing to sound like Tarja or Annete... We know the 3 are different voices and singing styles =)
All the times I've watched this performance, I don't know how I never noticed Tuomas's keyboard going all "Hitchcock's Psycho" with the stabby (Is that a word?) sounds like in the shower scene. 🤦
Thanks everyone for your nice comments and interesting takes on the performance! I'm always glad to share opinions with you guys who are being loving and supportive, and also those of who who don't necessarily agree with my opinions! I'm writing this because I want to clarify a couple of things because I'm really tired of the people who come over here to get mad at how I'm not worshiping Floor 100% of the time. I LOVE her, and if it isn't clear at to you by that point, you should check out the 10+ reaction videos I made of her so far, some of which I even teared up in. But, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that there isn't such thing as "perfect" in art, then there's nothing I can do for you. Floor, more than anybody else, knows that art is a process, and there's always something to learn. Understanding that makes the difference between good artists, and the ones who master their craft. If all I said to my students would be that they are doing everything perfectly, I would be giving them a disservice. I care enough to be honest about what I hear when it comes to singing, and I'm trying to paint an accurate picture of both the strengths and weaknesses I hear in performances I listen to. I use my experience, training and education to try to make some content that will help learning how to listen to voices with as objectivity as I can. I'm open to disagreement, but coming down my throat for saying anything other than "this is perfect" needs to stop. I'm not going to start saying things I don't think in my videos just because that's what people want to hear, I care too much for that. If you're unhappy with that, you know what to do, leave me a thumbs down or something, and go watch content from people who cares more about providing you with entertainment than educating you about the actual music, if that's what you prefer. (sorry for the rant but like, I needed it)
Perfection is not of this world and that's why I love hearing live music with all the beautiful things and mistakes we can do. I love all era's of Nightwish. I do not care about Tarjaholics, Floorknights and Annette lovers. Elvann gives her point of view, if you do not like get the hell out of Dodge. I have seen Floor live last year her presence is mesmerizing. Now I will go listen to my Thrash metal bands with all those awful singers with the energy that I love. Love from the Great North. P.S : Elvann continue ne te laisse pas mener par les cultistes de chaque faction!! Tu analyses comme bon te semble. Amour du 450 Rive-Sud de Montréal!
Why do you have to hate on Floor like that? Just kidding! 😃 I've seen similar backlash from posters on other channels that have also offered constructive criticism/opinion so try not to take the negativity to heart. I love your reactions because they uniquely combine interesting vocal analysis, a deep knowledge of the material, and a heartfelt, contagious enthusiasm. Keep it up! Also, maybe pin your comment above so it's at the top? Oh yeah, nice (looks like new) Beyerdynamic headphones.
People have opinions just as you do .Not everyone is going to agree with you ! Don't get so offended or be upset because someone doesn't agree with you 🙂
@@sheilacorbin521 You have got a point there: Some of us make a reaction on Elvann's reaction. That's it. And as long as we articulate it decent it should be fair enough - I think.
Please react to "underneath", the studio version. This is one of the most beautiful Tarja Turunen's songs. It's from her solo career. I never saw anyone reacting to this. It is really a beautiful song, with a beautiful message. It's poetry. And we need poetry to warm our hearts in this quarantine.
Floor always does a great unique job on whatever she does, completely making it her own. Her version of Slaying The Dreamer is absolutely perfect and beautiful but let's be honest, I never had a problem with understanding what Tarja was saying in this song. Tarja in many songs gets unclear somehow but this song wasn't one of them IMO. Some songs like this one, Wish I Had an Angel and She's My Sin, both Floor and Tarja do a great job, but in different styles but both do it great (unlike some other songs like Romanticide that I can't bare Tarja)
If you think 'singing like this is different than what she usually does', then you need to listen to her 2 albums with the band Revamped and, before that, with her band After Forever. With Revamped she had a number of songs where she does metal growling. In fact, in song Precibus, she goes from operatic vocals, to belting, to growling all in the same song. ua-cam.com/video/ADxb6z1Pu3c/v-deo.html
Oh yeess, great performance, I agree! Of course the whole show is amazing, I love my blue ray:-) I also think this tune is again a very good example how Floor takes a classic song and turns it to her own...and I agree with you, dear Elvann, that she doesn't acts randomly but very thoughtful and with this unmatchable feeling to always exactly know what the song asks for to express the feeling! This is a unique skill of her besides her amazing vocal capability...and you are unique too with your always precise but also lovely analysis of what happens! Last not least I love your purple hair:-)❤
I'm not new here, but first time commenting. Excellent review! Love that you have personal experience of the song. Very insightful. I imagine that it's very very difficult sing that song properly at all. Best wishes ans greetings from snowy Finland!
Hey hi! Welcome to the comment section ;) Glad to see you joined us over here hehe ! In my experience it's such a fun one to sing because there's so much place for performing things in a theatrical way! It was one of my favorites to perform on stage, if not my favorite!
You're right about that she thinks ahead about her expression, I think. When you see another performance of the same song she uses the same expressions.
I find her to be an intelligent singer, she just know what a song needs and she has a talent to get it there. I just wish she was stronger at the operatic parts. I liked the roundness you mentioned, we are getting closer :D
In this summer Nightwish will be in Czech republic (Vizovice - Master of rock). I´m (as you say) SUPER Excited to meet band alive, and on this fest it will be Judas Priest, that cool band too :-) And the sveet thing: the fest start on 9.7. and end on 12.7. but 7.7. it will be on Czech republic Iron Maiden!! That will be a devil week :-D
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I don't know if there is any other live recording with Floor of this song, but I read somewhere that she was not feeling completely well during part on the south America tour where they shot this performance. That could be a reason why she might not have the ability to perform the classical parts as we know she can.
I understand very little about technique, but I find it very interesting when people say Floor doesn’t sound very comfortable when singing in a more operatic/classical way. I used to think she was really good with After Forever and even with Revamp, but indeed she sounds much less comfortable with Nightwish. Maybe something in her range changed? I’m really curious about this matter. Like, listen to her here ua-cam.com/video/zy6SYZmwd7o/v-deo.html (Dreamflight with strings quartet) she sounds AMAZING. But again, I’m not a specialist and would love to hear what someone who understands has to say, putting her past and present side by side.
Floor had a concert tour in the netherlands in Januari 2020 with some AF songs Beste zanger songs and some NW songs and of course the duet with Henk Poort the panthom of the opera. It was a succesful performance. You can find something about it on YT. When floor went to NW tuomas didnt want a second tarja. So i think thats why her vocal range change in more metal. also listen to revamp floors band after AF. also listen to the duet with marco with ave maria. for more rocj you can listen to Northward .
berend jan van enteren yeah, I love Revamp too (don’t enjoy Northward that much tho). I have heard her perform both Ave Maria (and it does sounds great) but The Phantom of the Opera... well, I’m pretty attached to Sierra Bogges’ interpretation of Christine, so maybe is just personal taste. I find it very hard to believe that she would lose her ability to sing classical just because she uses a more rock style now. She is a professional and she still uses her classical technique with Nightwish, but she sounds a little bit better in the past and that is my question: was she better before? Or has she always been the same and my untrained ears are deceiving me?
@@karinamacedo4387 peoples character change when they grow older also voices do. When NW recorded this concert in BA it was ment that floor had a flu. It is for a good and professional vocalist impossible to sound perfect at a life performance everytime because the acoustic is everywhere different. the best example is maybe wacken 2018. this concert took place when it was about 42 degrees. And what to say about madonna at the eurovision songcontest last year. I did hear the new single of NW and i think there is nothing wrong with her voice.
Tarja fans say that. Still a little bit butthurt/jealous that Floor brought Nightwish to the next level. There is nothing wrong with Floor's classical voice.
Awwn we don't play together anymore, I used to sing with them 3 years ago or something. Also I don'T live in the same country as them anymore! But sometimes I do make covers with an online band I love to work with. Slaying the Dreamer could be our next one I suppose? :D I'll suggest it!
@@ElvannReacts You have no video from back then?... Too bad for us... Thanks anyway. Indeed, maybe a new cover will be nice! And how about covering ghost love score? As long as you're covering Nightwish, go for it... 😊
Please react to "underneath", the studio version. It's one of the most beautiful ballads I've ever heard. It's from Tarja Turunen's solo career. Thank you very much!
She's great on the classical. What you're hearing on this show was the result of her being really sick and it affected her classical range the most in it. There is an interview somewhere that she discussed this.
@@isaiahwelch8066 Yep, that's just how she is. But you could hear it a little when she goes classical in songs from this show. She's usually far stronger with it. 😉🤘🤘
maybe you should try listen to reVamp and After Forever. Floor is VERY comfortable singing classically. She is trained as a classical singer and a rock singer.
I basically agree with your analysis ! I really appreciate what Floor made with this song (especially at the begining). Even though I do not like the staccato part interpretation at the end. And what is funny to me is that I didn't like the more belting part of Tarja's interpretation on End of an Era. So it's really pleasure to here both version now ! Thanks Floor, Thanks Tarja for your differences !
I just went back and re-listened to some of your earlier reactions of Floor and Nightwish - and I will tell you (just between us) - that you are getting more and more respect for Floor as a performer. And of course - the old songs (you sang them yourselves) - are getting new life in the "hands" of Floor. Floor is a total performer - her voice, body, mind, movements is expressing the song - and that was something that neither Tarja or Anette could do. Floor is the song on stage, and I think that is what you are seeing now. It is also very clear in Dead Boy's Poem, from Buenos Aires 2018 concert - the way she leads the music. She is very very very rare, as you says several times during your different reactions - and more often lately. And your reactions are with weight behind - you know you stuff. Keep on - it's superb 🤘👌👍👏
You said it, i thought it for years,but i don't think Tarja sang that part, only Marko but that is also one reason i hardly watch any reactions to Tarja singing half the time i don't understand what she sings
I think she was singing the "ooo" part, and for sure she does on the album, and that part is a LOT clearer! But no, I don't think she was singing along with the Marko part though!
Elvann I think in general, it’s very difficult for strictly classical singers to venture into faster pop/rock music. Nothing against Classical singers (one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to was Sarah Brightman. And I love classical of all sorts), but when the singer is three beats behind the band and constantly trying to catch up it’s tough to listen to. Not the singers fault, unless you want to say they should know their limitations maybe? Floor has a very unusual ability to be able to do both styles very well, sometimes switching back and forth from one line to the next.
@@brian454454 I guess Dutch singers are different than, If you see Maria Fosselier here, she is Opera singer and is rapping a Eminem song ua-cam.com/video/8YyuIkVSx-8/v-deo.html
I love when people who claim to be hard Tarja fans hear a song, and they say Floor is better in it. Then they make excuses for Tarja. Then you realize they say that in almost every song 😂
I see them both live and Tarja is a perfect singer but she don`t show emotions. Floor is the best what Nightwish ever can happenned. She van sing every what she wants and she show emotions.
At the time of the Decades tour she'd only really gotten comfortable properly dropping her larynx and using fully rounded vowels in her mixed voice, as she uses in Kinslayer and (parts of) Gethsemane in that tour. Since then she's clearly been working on it a lot because her recent performances of Phantom on her solo tour clearly show her starting to be able to carry that lower larynx and rounder vowel usage even into the climax at the end of Phantom, which she wasn't yet able to do when she sang it on Beste Zangers. I expect within the next year or two she'll be much more comfortable using a full operatic configuration in her head voice and get a *lot* more resonance out of it than she has historically.
That was what I said when this video came out and people was mocking her because of her discomfort singing. Ok, she's awesome and all but she's not 100% perfect in all techniques A singer needs to have some time adapting another singer's technique. Its all a matter of time until she adapts.
@@vandersonjunior8018Many people don't seem to realize that Floor constantly works on adding to her technical skills, they think that if she is relatively weaker in an area, she always will be. In reality she has improved so many technical aspects of her singing since 2012 that the way she performs most of Nightwish's songs has changed quite radically to incorporate all the things she's worked on. The most impressive thing about Floor to me is that she hasn't even peaked yet.
@@somedigitalist7681 Nightwish are the best they've ever been, since she joined. I think she's made them up their game. Who knows what they'll do next? The new album can't come soon enough for me. 😉
Great song, great performance! And love the angle, looking awesome and very good comments! Was just wondering, you said she will get more comfortable with singing the operatic parts, I personally think it won't be getting any better, seeing her age and how long she is already doing this kind of music..
@@ElvannReacts I think the main reason for that was that Annette already "changed" a lot of the original songs written for Tarja, and Floor went sort of in-between the 2 of them, especially with the lack of time in the first year with nightwish and also still doing ReVamp. I still think Anneke in the Gathering, Sharon in WT and Simone in Epica at the time were my favourites, floor I did see with AF and also nightwish with Tarja but it was not something I was into at the time.
It seems inevitable but isn't it about time to bury the Tarja era? If people really want to listen to those previous albums you are welcome to do that, after all you bought them. Nightwish, out of necessity, first hired Annette and later Floor. The Tarja era is over and done with, part of history. It doesn't help neither the band, Tarja, Annette nor Floor to keep going on and on stoking a fire long after it has been extinguished. Give it a rest, I implore you. Addendum To the person giving a thumbs down on all Floor videos thank you from the bottom of my heart. After all, all reactions, even the negative ones, helps the videos in the ranking on YT...
I am afraid of this never ever ending - too much time invested during the last 15 years and it is not just the deal only with Nightwish ---> Arch Enemy - Angela vs. Alissa; Kamelot - Roy vs. Tommy
Why would would anyone want to bury the Tarja or Annette era? While I get that some people have this innate urge to compare things as if it is some sort of arms race because it is the latest thing it is entirely possible to appreciate each era/singer in their own right -- It reminds me of the typical console fanboi/girl arguments that people made. The lengths they go through to validate their latest purchase is comical (and sad in some instances).
This will never end. And rightfully so. IMO, Floor is the best singer out of the 3 'cause she has the most "weapons" at her disposal to give the best performance. I STILL enjoy going back and listening to the original versions of certain songs. There are still certain songs that Floor doesn't do well like Wish I had an Angel. 3 live albums and she still sounds a bit awkward doing it. But other songs she just made her own. The comparisons will rage on although I am in agreement that they should be put on the back-burner from now on. They just need to make an album fully utilizes Floor's power and people will shut up once and for all.
I think by "bury the Tarja era" he means to treat it as ended, like a completed chapter. I agree, that she was also good and I also enjoy listening to her singing, but the permanent comparisons can really grate on ones appreciation for the songs themselves in both (or all three) versions.
Lovely reaction like always. I agree with you on the clarity and precision when Floor sings. Floor introduced me to Nightwish, so I first listened to DATDDO and Slaying The Dreamer sung by Floor, but when I went back and listened to the original version of the same songs, I couldn't understand what was happening (vocally). It would be nice to see your reactions of some After Forever stuff. Some great performances would be Follow In The Cry(Pinkpop 2004), Monolith Of Doubt(Kopspijkers 2002) and Sins Of Idealism(no idea where or when, but live ofc).
I have the same feeling, I wasn't a huge Nightwish fan back in the day but over the last few years hearing Floor's versions of the songs it just sounds like this is how they're supposed to sound. Nothing against the first 2 singers but Floor just seems like the missing piece, at least to me.
This song was very good, Floor Jansen did his musical performance and that's cool, but Tarja Turunen's interpretation is unforgettable because whoever heard this song on the show in the voice of the former vocalist was marked by this classic. But I liked it because the current singer gave her signature on the songs and for me who studies music in an academic way is valid.🤩👍🎶🎶🎶
You havent really listened to Floor in her After Forever years right? I mean, bcs Although it really sounds different from that time (bcs since from there she have mastered many other techniques and styles than just her older operatic vocals and Standard beltings) she's not uncomfortable at all in higher register and classical singing And if it is really the case youre not famíliar with after forever i highly recomend you to react to "Monolith of Doubt- After Forever live 2002" thats a high performance and also popular among reaction videos (As far as her former bands go)
Just read an excerpt from "Once Upon a Nightwish" last night and found out that Tarja struggled with some of the songs that Tuomos wrote, admitting that she still couldn't sing (at the time of writing) "Stargazers" properly. It's commonly thought that Tuomos writes songs to fit his singers, but the reality appears to be that he writes what he writes and the singers have to deal with it. During the recording for "Oceanborn" Tarja referred to Toumos as, "a real bastard" because of his lack of sensitivity to her singing needs. They used some tricks to get the vocal tracks in the can. Perhaps what you're hearing in the original Tarja version, is some fudging to get past a section she hadn't mastered.
Please do a reaction to Floors other project Northward as well. (e.g. Get What You Give /official lyric video). I would love to hear your opinion on it.
I think End of an era performance is better... the last part with Tarja is pretty epic.. and you can crearly hear what she's signing.. I always thought that her live voice is much better than her studio voice
She's from "The Last Unicorn". She a Unicorn who's been turned into a human, it's a really beautiful story. But yeah, I think I'll switch the order of the posters so Mononokehime is more visible instead of hidden behind the Guitalele
Yes I am going to be that one this time. Even though I am a HUGE Floor fan, like Sleeping Sun I prefer Tarja version. Taste of different people is subjective though.
you are no huge fan of floor because you talk too much about tarja i,m a huge fan and friend of floor for me sings all songs better and with much more emotion than boring tarja
@@jzundert You must be a new fan. I started listening to Nightwish in 1999 so yes I like listening to Tarja as well. Don't be a Floor fan boy about someone liking all three singers please.
I have started to hate these Floor fans, who can't take even tiniest bit of critique, or if someone actually prefers Tarja more on some songs. Why do you need to be so butthurt. I'm huge fan of Floor, but no, she doesn't do everything better than Tarja. She is still the best singer for Nightwish for sure.
tarja is past tuomas is happy with floor mayby she sings his songs like he meant to sing them floor can sing everything and with emotion but tarja can sing only sing operatic and yes people like you gonna hate me tarja and tarja betray her fans to leave nightwish
You're 100% entitled to you opinion, art is subjective and the thing is, we don't HAVE to choose anyways! Also, omg this thread, I've been wanting to make a whole video about that topic but I'm still trying to find a way to articulate it. There is nothing that get me more fired up than that at the moment. I can't say the even the word "opera" or "classical singing" without people responding that I should get over Tarja or something. Talking about Floor's operatic singing is not necessarily a comparison with Tarja. With that said, no singer is perfect, or is the best one on earth. That's the beauty about art: you can always improve. I'm sure Floor takes singing lessons to improve herself still today. Masters of their craft understand the importance of always improving, that's what makes them what they are. ANYWAYS.
The thing I find funny is the people that are critical couldn't hold a candle to Floor ....However everyone has there own opinions , nothing wrong with that ...
Agree, she always has something negative to say about the way Floor sings, but I dont pay attention to it anymore, Im just glad that Tuomas is happy to have Floor on the band and how she sings his songs, that's the most important thing to me, him being the leader of NW
I think "negative" is the wrong way to understand what's happening here. Elvann is a classical singer, so she'll hear it and understand it from that perspective. Plus she knows these songs. So what's wrong with calling it like you see it? Seriously, do you want a reaction, or an acted hero-worship video? This is a legit reaction. Also, I do think Floor's the best thing since sliced bread, but she's also human, and therefore not always perfect. So this sort of criticism is to be expected.
@@jimmyboy131 Floor is also a singer who has had classical training, however, Elvann ALWAYS says she can't sing classically, I've seen a bunch of vocal coaches analyze Floor's style and they all give her props for her very classical style on some songs, but I think Elvann is just bs cause she's a huuuge Tarja fan and she would never get over it, she would never accept that Floor fits every style she wants, pop, metal, classical/operatic, etc, I don't think their reviews are objective at all, she's constantly comparing Floor to Tarja and that's not okay
Hey Elvann. Nice reaction and new camera position! Have you seen/reacted to Floor singing the Stargazer at Tampere show? It´s all-in classical style :)
That is exactly how it is supposed to sound. I thought this was one of Tarja's weakest songs (- I thought she did not understand it!) Floor understands it and performs it as it was meant to be. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. I did like your reaction I felt you really enjoyed this song and performance. Great vid. Thank you.
Well I personally think Floor's better at the more pop-theatrical approach, while Tarja focus almost entierly on the classical approach. Floors greatest strenght are afterall her nonconformity to any of the more established musical styles, which suit Toumas own nonconformity to typical composer guidelines.
@@magnuscarlsson9969 It’s exactly like Elvan said: Floor puts so much thought into what she sings. That is indeed her greatest strength. She really interprets the song and puts a great deal of thought in figuring out what she needs to do to tell the story in the best possible way. She puts a little bit of one technique here, and a bigger portion of another technique there, and she works her way through the song, trying to understand the song and figure out how it sounds best. I feel that Tarja didn’t do that, she only came to sing the song and that’s it. She didn’t put that much work in understanding and interpreting it the way Floor does. That’s why Floor understands the song while Tarja didn’t. That is the reason why Floor is able to make every song shine and sound better than ever before.
@@treintje1001 Yeah that's why I got extremely hyped for the new album after reading the pre release reviews and interviews. Floor said this album was a challenge so it just have to be AMAZING!
Please react to Valley of the Queens, it has 3 beautiful singer's which includes Floor Jansen. The other 2 ladies are very famous too, you will not regret it, I promise,. Thanks from New Zealand
Je devrais le savoir. J'hésitais à regarder cette vidéo, parce que honnêtement, j'ai du mal avec cette chanson. C'est l'une des rares chansons que je zappe quand j'écoute ce concert (cela dit, il y en a eu d'autres par le passé que j'ai finis par apprécier, comme quoi, même un idiot peut changer d'avis ! 😁). Mais même si je n'aime pas forcément une chanson à laquelle tu réagis, ça reste toujours intéressant d'avoir tes appréciations et tes observations sur la technique ou l'interprétation. Donc je n'ai vraiment pas perdu mon temps et j'ai aimé cette vidéo. Comme d'habitude.... Merci !
Maybe Floor will contavt you for some operatic vocal lessons. LMFAO. Kidding. She's an ultra-successful, extremely talented vocalist. Not a wannabe, failed singer. I was curious and checked out one of your UA-cam videos. I won't comment on it as I'm trying to be nice.
1:40 Wow Elvann, you look so sexy doing those gestures! Jajaja 😉 I love your channel! Could you react to some very good songs by Kamelot? They will surely be to your liking. A kiss from Argentina!😗 > Kamelot songs: - Elizabeth - Abandoned - Soul Society - The Hunting - When the lights are down
On my walk today I was listening to After Forever and on it Floor has a wonderfully bright classical voice. I also have their 2018 Latin America Decades tour live album where Floor broke out her darker, more resonant head voice on a few songs. She also had 'tour flu' so I'm not sure if what we are hearing was her lack of comfort with that tone or the consequences of the bug, but I do understand what you're referring to in her use of that technique. She does use it a bit in the Wacken 2013 show and other shows. I actually don't like that dark soprano head voice and all that heavy vibrato. It's my primary reason for not liking opera. I do like classical music when that technique is not heavily employed. It's also the reason why I only like some of Tarja's Nightwish songs - the ones where she tends to stay in a brighter tone for most of the song and cools it on her use of all that heavy vibrato. I can handle that darker tone only in small doses, otherwise to me it begins to sound like an old aunt warbling Christmas carols after one too many visits to the sherry bottle. Floor has admitted to being a vocal nerd, so there's no doubt in my mind that within the natural range of her voice, she can master any vocal technique. Personally, I'd be quite happy if she didn't bother with this technique. If I wanted to hear that dark head voice with gobs of vibrato, I can always go dig out my copy of "Once".
Thanks for the comment, your thoughts about that were interesting to read! :D I don't think that sounding opera has to mean sounding like Tarja, and I think that it is something people get confused with a lot. I don't think Tarja should be the operatic sound reference in any way, I still love what she does and have a strong emotional attachment to that, but I prefer a lighter, brighter opera voice texture than she actually goes for. I think Floor has a really nice operatic tone in general, and in that aspect, I prefer the aesthetic Floor is going for, but she still sings them with too much tension and her breath support doesn't yet seem to be constant, which causes her to be a bit uneven and to lack precision imo. I think that, coming from a pop/rock-voice background she tends to puts too much pressure on her vocal folds, causing her to sound a bit unstable and uncomfortable. It's especially obvious in staccato parts like at the end, where she needs to do really quick sounds. It also shows in very high sustained parts, but when she's in her medium I think her breath management is a bit better. Anyways, I'm a geek but like, it doesn't mean it's not pretty, and being the hardworking performer and artist that she is I'm pretty sure she's aware of it herself and is working towards it. Art is a process, you're never done with it, and that attitude Floor has about her art is what makes me appreciate her most.
@@ElvannReacts Thanks for the nice reply. I'm aware that Tarja's sound doesn't represent opera, for I know that there are many styles of sounds in that genre. Years ago I sang classical music, so I do have a frame of reference. Regarding Floor's operatic voice, I find that when she stays with her natural, brighter tone, she is quite relaxed and the sound flows. However, I have noticed the straining when she adopts that darker tone. During the Decades tour in Latin America, she sang one song using that darker tone (forget which one) and I noticed the straining. She wasn't comfortable, but she was also battling a bug. When she goes for that darker tone, I noticed how her head tilts a bit forward, the jaw drops a bit and the mouth shape is not as open as things tighten up. It was easily noticeable as that's exactly what I did years ago when I pushed into the upper end of my tenor range without going falsetto. It always ended up sounding strained. I was a natural baritone, but as I had the range, I was frequently shuttled between bass and tenor as the need arose. It gave me an understanding of what it was like to sing at the extremes of comfort. Keep up the good work as you have one of the better reaction channels. I usually seek out yours and Rebecca's for the technical stuff and Heath for the laugh.
Elvann, I think you are full of... Floor uncomfortable with singing high notes.?. Ridiculous, she is honing her skills for almost a quarter of a century. The Charismatic Voice said she sounds perfect singing high notes. Elizabeth is a renowned opera singer and Floor is fabulous in her eyes. So you are wrong... Get off the Nightwish train
I think this is exactly what makes Floor special. She always goes into the lyrics, and really put her all into acting it out both in body language and the way she sings it. And it's rare to find both a great skilled voice and a great story teller. Her stint on Beste Zangers really made that clear to me.
I think exactly same than you. And what we both think about her, I take Floor´s own words (below). In Nightwish new album, there is one song, what is difficult, even Floor, to sing. So, here is her story from interview just few days ago (published 27.1.)
This tell much about her, and her working. And also that Tuomas is not really writing pop songs :D , but more complicated songs! Waiting that new album so much !!! Until now, I have read about 4 valuation to it, every each of them are really positive and one was really hype!!!
Floor
" I had to practice, for sure. REALLY practice. And I really do like the result. It was a challenge. It was so complex that it’s not like “I’ve listened to it and yeah, I’ve got it” and then go from there. I really had to study it. I have to study the melody, I have to study where the words come in, and by the time when we got to the point when the first demos came in and we rehearsed together, I could sing it. As in it sounds okay. But I knew what the lyrics were about but I had no chance to put in the emotion yet. Now I could recite it, basically. When the drum recordings started and I was back home I went through everything for few weeks more. It was daily rehearsals of combining what I knew and felt the song was about to reciting the technical element of the singing of the words and the melodies to get them into singing and storytelling and feeling and transmitting the feeling, emotion and the story - if that makes sense. That was definitely THE challenge. Not that I didn’t understand what I was singing, but to combine everything into something that made it sound 1) easy and 2) comfortable and 3) with the right feeling behind it."
@@jukkahelminen9071 Thanks for copy pasting that snippet of the interview. Floor is such a geek when it comes to singing. And I mean that 100% as a compliment. But I had a feeling that she indeed was this thorough in her work with the songs. Because when she's on stage, she seems like she's just enjoying herself. And to get to that point, you really have to put in the work.
@@jukkahelminen9071 That description is EXACTLY what I was assuming is going on behind the scenes ^^
I respect people who work hard very much. Talent is not everything. Of course there are more talented voices out there - the rule of life is that there is always someone better than you.
Yep, excellent stage presence and loads of charisma on her part. Lots of small faces, gestures etc to match the lyrics
Never heard of them until now. I had to follow them on spotify! Loving what I hear.
Welcome to the nightwish family...better late than never
Based on some of the interviews I saw with Floor, I am convinced that she sings everything intentionally and works it out in detail, i.e. is well prepared and goes the extra miles to find the interpretation that works best for her and the piece, as well as the sections. She also mentioned that she joined the band for the rehearsals from DAY ONE in order to listen and develop the vocals together with the band, which in the past was apparently different for the other singers, who would join the band once they had the music down.
That actually that was not intended by the band. She was intended to join them much later in the rehearsals when most musical parts were nearly done but she had not seen them for a couple weeks so she thought she would drive by and just say "hi". After listening for a while she started to recognize the songs and said "Get me a mike" and started singing along, much to the surprise of Tuomas she knew all the lyrics already from the top her head. Floor thought it was nothing special to be involved that early in the process but the previous vocalist never did that. So that is how that came about. You just gotta love this woman.
Just back from floor solo show. Great performence and she is funny to. being there live is even more impressive what a voice!
You missed Marco putting stake through Floors heart.
Omg i never noticed! That's awesome! I love how they not only sing but have fun interpreting and acting out the lyrics on stage! Their live shows are the best :)
@@julesd304 A lot of people also failed to notice the shooting star in Élan.
oh no I did miss it!!! :O
@@ElvannReacts Try "Barcelona" from Beste Zangers ;)
OMG thank you I didn't see that
I just love your REACTION. Keep up the Good Work. Love from Sweden
She just did a great interview where she explains the steps to learning a new song and after she learns the words and the music then she studies how to add the emotion to the song.
could you post this interview here, please? I'm very curious about this process!
Thank you!
Fred Cintra no problem! It was a great article. Boa Noite!
I really got to check it out too|
mommyca2299 thanks, she’s an absolute master at interpretation and conveying emotion. (In addition to the insane ability to make her voice do almost anything she wants it to do)
Even if you don't like Floor, I think her use of various sounds, interpretations and techniques, even within one song, might be insprirational to people who like to learn to sing. This song, the belting in Ghost Love Score, the sweet Shallow, an aria of Puccini and a most beautiful (in Finnish) christmas song Oi jouluyö. So versatile. To me, so far, she's unique.
I hope you're not assuming I dislike her? If I have 10+ videos where I'm reacting to her,. some of which I even tear up in, I hope that's sufficient evidence I love her XD
@@ElvannReacts I meant it as a general thought, that someone does not have to like her, or the music, but can still learn from her.
Floor is always interpreting songs with soul and all her big bag of tricks in service of the lyrics. Never showing off in ways that detract from the feeling.
Also, heavier Nightwish still the best Nightwish.
Floor may not be used to classical singing now, she hasn’t done a lot in say the last ten years but she definitely used to be comfortable with it. Just listen to After Forever
Yeah I was thinking the same, she also sang opera songs here in holland on tv long time ago
Special guest Simone Simons from Epica joins Revamp onstage to duet with Floor Jansen on 'Sweet Curse.' Recorded at the Metal Female Voices festival, Wieze, Belgium on 23 October, 2010
Great one girl!!! That's why I love how she sings the songs on her own way not like a copycat... I would love to hear you singing along more!!!
There is no way a copycat since it's composed by Tuomas.
@@despairingleonardo Sorry, english is not my primary language, what I wanted to say is that Floor isn't trying to sing the songs willing to sound like Tarja or Annete... We know the 3 are different voices and singing styles =)
All the times I've watched this performance, I don't know how I never noticed Tuomas's keyboard going all "Hitchcock's Psycho" with the stabby (Is that a word?) sounds like in the shower scene. 🤦
where exactly?
@@Immortall1408 about minute 3:10 - 3:12
Immortall1408 And Montresor means the original vid not Elvans.
@@mantailuaa yes, sorry! minute 3:10 of the original video... :)
@@montresor6770 thanks
Im not sure, but apparently Floor had a cold during that concert, so maybe that impacted her classical parts.
A fact, yup !
Thanks everyone for your nice comments and interesting takes on the performance! I'm always glad to share opinions with you guys who are being loving and supportive, and also those of who who don't necessarily agree with my opinions!
I'm writing this because I want to clarify a couple of things because I'm really tired of the people who come over here to get mad at how I'm not worshiping Floor 100% of the time. I LOVE her, and if it isn't clear at to you by that point, you should check out the 10+ reaction videos I made of her so far, some of which I even teared up in. But, if you can't wrap your head around the fact that there isn't such thing as "perfect" in art, then there's nothing I can do for you.
Floor, more than anybody else, knows that art is a process, and there's always something to learn. Understanding that makes the difference between good artists, and the ones who master their craft.
If all I said to my students would be that they are doing everything perfectly, I would be giving them a disservice. I care enough to be honest about what I hear when it comes to singing, and I'm trying to paint an accurate picture of both the strengths and weaknesses I hear in performances I listen to. I use my experience, training and education to try to make some content that will help learning how to listen to voices with as objectivity as I can. I'm open to disagreement, but coming down my throat for saying anything other than "this is perfect" needs to stop. I'm not going to start saying things I don't think in my videos just because that's what people want to hear, I care too much for that. If you're unhappy with that, you know what to do, leave me a thumbs down or something, and go watch content from people who cares more about providing you with entertainment than educating you about the actual music, if that's what you prefer.
(sorry for the rant but like, I needed it)
Is there just one who have said that you can't be "saying anything other than ""this is perfect"" when it is about Floor?
Perfection is not of this world and that's why I love hearing live music with all the beautiful things and mistakes we can do.
I love all era's of Nightwish. I do not care about Tarjaholics, Floorknights and Annette lovers. Elvann gives her point of view, if you do not like get the hell out of Dodge. I have seen Floor live last year her presence is mesmerizing. Now I will go listen to my Thrash metal bands with all those awful singers with the energy that I love. Love from the Great North.
P.S : Elvann continue ne te laisse pas mener par les cultistes de chaque faction!! Tu analyses comme bon te semble. Amour du 450 Rive-Sud de Montréal!
Why do you have to hate on Floor like that? Just kidding! 😃 I've seen similar backlash from posters on other channels that have also offered constructive criticism/opinion so try not to take the negativity to heart. I love your reactions because they uniquely combine interesting vocal analysis, a deep knowledge of the material, and a heartfelt, contagious enthusiasm. Keep it up! Also, maybe pin your comment above so it's at the top? Oh yeah, nice (looks like new) Beyerdynamic headphones.
People have opinions just as you do .Not everyone is going to agree with you ! Don't get so offended or be upset because someone doesn't agree with you 🙂
@@sheilacorbin521 You have got a point there: Some of us make a reaction on Elvann's reaction. That's it. And as long as we articulate it decent it should be fair enough - I think.
Please react to "underneath", the studio version. This is one of the most beautiful Tarja Turunen's songs. It's from her solo career. I never saw anyone reacting to this. It is really a beautiful song, with a beautiful message. It's poetry. And we need poetry to warm our hearts in this quarantine.
Floor the goddess !!!
This is among the songs that I never particularly cared for with Tarja, other than the ending. Floor's performance gave me a new appreciation.
@Big Bill O'Reilly look who's talking.
Floor always does a great unique job on whatever she does, completely making it her own. Her version of Slaying The Dreamer is absolutely perfect and beautiful but let's be honest, I never had a problem with understanding what Tarja was saying in this song. Tarja in many songs gets unclear somehow but this song wasn't one of them IMO. Some songs like this one, Wish I Had an Angel and She's My Sin, both Floor and Tarja do a great job, but in different styles but both do it great (unlike some other songs like Romanticide that I can't bare Tarja)
If you think 'singing like this is different than what she usually does', then you need to listen to her 2 albums with the band Revamped and, before that, with her band After Forever. With Revamped she had a number of songs where she does metal growling. In fact, in song Precibus, she goes from operatic vocals, to belting, to growling all in the same song.
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Oh yeess, great performance, I agree! Of course the whole show is amazing, I love my blue ray:-)
I also think this tune is again a very good example how Floor takes a classic song and turns it to her own...and I agree with you, dear Elvann, that she doesn't acts randomly but very thoughtful and with this unmatchable feeling to always exactly know what the song asks for to express the feeling! This is a unique skill of her besides her amazing vocal capability...and you are unique too with your always precise but also lovely analysis of what happens!
Last not least I love your purple hair:-)❤
Beautifully done Elvann. I totally agree. Floor is acting out the lyrics and music. This definitely sets her apart from other vocalists.
If I'm not mistaken Floor had been a bit sick around this time, either before, during or both.
yeahe I think she has :(
Great reaction! Thank you! Also, love the hair!
Thank you ;) I found a hair dye that doesn't wash away at all and I'm keeping it!
I'm not new here, but first time commenting. Excellent review! Love that you have personal experience of the song. Very insightful. I imagine that it's very very difficult sing that song properly at all. Best wishes ans greetings from snowy Finland!
Hey hi! Welcome to the comment section ;) Glad to see you joined us over here hehe !
In my experience it's such a fun one to sing because there's so much place for performing things in a theatrical way! It was one of my favorites to perform on stage, if not my favorite!
You're right about that she thinks ahead about her expression, I think. When you see another performance of the same song she uses the same expressions.
I find her to be an intelligent singer, she just know what a song needs and she has a talent to get it there. I just wish she was stronger at the operatic parts. I liked the roundness you mentioned, we are getting closer :D
Great reaction Elvann! Thanks again!
In this summer Nightwish will be in Czech republic (Vizovice - Master of rock). I´m (as you say) SUPER Excited to meet band alive, and on this fest it will be Judas Priest, that cool band too :-) And the sveet thing: the fest start on 9.7. and end on 12.7. but 7.7. it will be on Czech republic Iron Maiden!! That will be a devil week :-D
I don't know if there is any other live recording with Floor of this song, but I read somewhere that she was not feeling completely well during part on the south America tour where they shot this performance. That could be a reason why she might not have the ability to perform the classical parts as we know she can.
I understand very little about technique, but I find it very interesting when people say Floor doesn’t sound very comfortable when singing in a more operatic/classical way. I used to think she was really good with After Forever and even with Revamp, but indeed she sounds much less comfortable with Nightwish. Maybe something in her range changed? I’m really curious about this matter.
Like, listen to her here ua-cam.com/video/zy6SYZmwd7o/v-deo.html (Dreamflight with strings quartet) she sounds AMAZING. But again, I’m not a specialist and would love to hear what someone who understands has to say, putting her past and present side by side.
Floor had a concert tour in the netherlands in Januari 2020 with some AF songs Beste zanger songs and some NW songs and of course the duet with Henk Poort the panthom of the opera. It was a succesful performance. You can find something about it on YT. When floor went to NW tuomas didnt want a second tarja. So i think thats why her vocal range change in more metal. also listen to revamp floors band after AF. also listen to the duet with marco with ave maria. for more rocj you can listen to Northward .
berend jan van enteren yeah, I love Revamp too (don’t enjoy Northward that much tho). I have heard her perform both Ave Maria (and it does sounds great) but The Phantom of the Opera... well, I’m pretty attached to Sierra Bogges’ interpretation of Christine, so maybe is just personal taste.
I find it very hard to believe that she would lose her ability to sing classical just because she uses a more rock style now. She is a professional and she still uses her classical technique with Nightwish, but she sounds a little bit better in the past and that is my question: was she better before? Or has she always been the same and my untrained ears are deceiving me?
@@karinamacedo4387 peoples character change when they grow older also voices do. When NW recorded this concert in BA it was ment that floor had a flu. It is for a good and professional vocalist impossible to sound perfect at a life performance everytime because the acoustic is everywhere different. the best example is maybe wacken 2018. this concert took place when it was about 42 degrees. And what to say about madonna at the eurovision songcontest last year. I did hear the new single of NW and i think there is nothing wrong with her voice.
Tarja fans say that. Still a little bit butthurt/jealous that Floor brought Nightwish to the next level. There is nothing wrong with Floor's classical voice.
We want a video of you singing it with your band!
(Well, at least, I want)
Awwn we don't play together anymore, I used to sing with them 3 years ago or something. Also I don'T live in the same country as them anymore! But sometimes I do make covers with an online band I love to work with. Slaying the Dreamer could be our next one I suppose? :D I'll suggest it!
@@ElvannReacts
You have no video from back then?... Too bad for us... Thanks anyway.
Indeed, maybe a new cover will be nice!
And how about covering ghost love score? As long as you're covering Nightwish, go for it... 😊
Please react to "underneath", the studio version. It's one of the most beautiful ballads I've ever heard. It's from Tarja Turunen's solo career. Thank you very much!
The greatest rock singer a female.
New album - all the songs of course!!!
It was a good relation,I would love to see your band,and your got a good voice
🤘🤘❤️🤘🤘 This is another example of why I'm a Floorshipper!!! 😁🤘🤘
She's great on the classical. What you're hearing on this show was the result of her being really sick and it affected her classical range the most in it. There is an interview somewhere that she discussed this.
@@TheStefan6969 : If she was sick, I couldn't tell by listening to it. 🙂❤🤘🔥
@@isaiahwelch8066 Yep, that's just how she is. But you could hear it a little when she goes classical in songs from this show. She's usually far stronger with it. 😉🤘🤘
Just love this channel 🤘 thanks Elvann
maybe you should try listen to reVamp and After Forever. Floor is VERY comfortable singing classically. She is trained as a classical singer and a rock singer.
I basically agree with your analysis ! I really appreciate what Floor made with this song (especially at the begining). Even though I do not like the staccato part interpretation at the end. And what is funny to me is that I didn't like the more belting part of Tarja's interpretation on End of an Era. So it's really pleasure to here both version now ! Thanks Floor, Thanks Tarja for your differences !
Complete Album Reaction to Human Nature would be great.
AWESOME REACTION AS ALWAYS ♡♡♡
Here I am recommending I Want My Tears Back from this DVD again hehehe
Seconded.
' I don't think it had anything' It;'s my favourite song! Do I dig my own grave now?
6:03 tuomas was definitely influenced by " wake up dead " by Megadeth
And if you want a classical duet: ua-cam.com/video/QqdvFPBGN0c/v-deo.html. Pergolesi’s Stabat mater with Floor
Whoah, first native english speaker i've heard pronouncing Buenos Aires right way 👍🙏
🤣🤣🤣
The thing is, I’m not a native english speaker 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just went back and re-listened to some of your earlier reactions of Floor and Nightwish - and I will tell you (just between us) - that you are getting more and more respect for Floor as a performer. And of course - the old songs (you sang them yourselves) - are getting new life in the "hands" of Floor.
Floor is a total performer - her voice, body, mind, movements is expressing the song - and that was something that neither Tarja or Anette could do. Floor is the song on stage, and I think that is what you are seeing now.
It is also very clear in Dead Boy's Poem, from Buenos Aires 2018 concert - the way she leads the music. She is very very very rare, as you says several times during your different reactions - and more often lately.
And your reactions are with weight behind - you know you stuff.
Keep on - it's superb 🤘👌👍👏
Thanks for the sweet comment! ^.^ ❤️
You said it, i thought it for years,but i don't think Tarja sang that part, only Marko but that is also one reason i hardly watch any reactions to Tarja singing half the time i don't understand what she sings
Nimwey :P
I think she was singing the "ooo" part, and for sure she does on the album, and that part is a LOT clearer! But no, I don't think she was singing along with the Marko part though!
Elvann I think in general, it’s very difficult for strictly classical singers to venture into faster pop/rock music. Nothing against Classical singers (one of the best concerts I’ve ever been to was Sarah Brightman. And I love classical of all sorts), but when the singer is three beats behind the band and constantly trying to catch up it’s tough to listen to. Not the singers fault, unless you want to say they should know their limitations maybe? Floor has a very unusual ability to be able to do both styles very well, sometimes switching back and forth from one line to the next.
@@brian454454 I guess Dutch singers are different than, If you see Maria Fosselier here, she is Opera singer and is rapping a Eminem song ua-cam.com/video/8YyuIkVSx-8/v-deo.html
See also the video from someone called Pedro the soundguy. Here is Floor Jansen acting more.
Did Marko just mock strike Floor? At roughly 3 minutes? O.o
he answers to "put a stake" ^^
"Put a steak, on my plate" tralaaa 😁
hahahha
I love when people who claim to be hard Tarja fans hear a song, and they say Floor is better in it. Then they make excuses for Tarja. Then you realize they say that in almost every song 😂
08:37 that's not much time to fill your lungs for what's coming !
I see them both live and Tarja is a perfect singer but she don`t show emotions. Floor is the best what Nightwish ever can happenned. She van sing every what she wants and she show emotions.
thank you for this Elvann .. this is one of your best reactions you have done ….. good one … ! from Nightwish Discord …
Old / new song ......... Wowwww
At the time of the Decades tour she'd only really gotten comfortable properly dropping her larynx and using fully rounded vowels in her mixed voice, as she uses in Kinslayer and (parts of) Gethsemane in that tour. Since then she's clearly been working on it a lot because her recent performances of Phantom on her solo tour clearly show her starting to be able to carry that lower larynx and rounder vowel usage even into the climax at the end of Phantom, which she wasn't yet able to do when she sang it on Beste Zangers. I expect within the next year or two she'll be much more comfortable using a full operatic configuration in her head voice and get a *lot* more resonance out of it than she has historically.
That was what I said when this video came out and people was mocking her because of her discomfort singing. Ok, she's awesome and all but she's not 100% perfect in all techniques
A singer needs to have some time adapting another singer's technique. Its all a matter of time until she adapts.
@@vandersonjunior8018 Even at less than 100%, she's still 50% better than many singers' best.
@@vandersonjunior8018Many people don't seem to realize that Floor constantly works on adding to her technical skills, they think that if she is relatively weaker in an area, she always will be.
In reality she has improved so many technical aspects of her singing since 2012 that the way she performs most of Nightwish's songs has changed quite radically to incorporate all the things she's worked on.
The most impressive thing about Floor to me is that she hasn't even peaked yet.
@@somedigitalist7681 Nightwish are the best they've ever been, since she joined. I think she's made them up their game. Who knows what they'll do next? The new album can't come soon enough for me. 😉
@@somedigitalist7681 and just how much she has grown as a singer since her early days in After Forever
Elvann reviews Nightwish. Always worth a like !!!
Let's see how the single sounds to decide.
I would definitely check out ur songs. U could actually start a symphonic band.
Great song, great performance! And love the angle, looking awesome and very good comments!
Was just wondering, you said she will get more comfortable with singing the operatic parts, I personally think it won't be getting any better, seeing her age and how long she is already doing this kind of music..
Thank you!
@@ElvannReacts I think the main reason for that was that Annette already "changed" a lot of the original songs written for Tarja, and Floor went sort of in-between the 2 of them, especially with the lack of time in the first year with nightwish and also still doing ReVamp.
I still think Anneke in the Gathering, Sharon in WT and Simone in Epica at the time were my favourites, floor I did see with AF and also nightwish with Tarja but it was not something I was into at the time.
Sleeping sun!! Plz! 🙏🏼
I will :D
please react to Tarja's songs on a solo career, like Supremacy, Crimson Deep, In for a Kill or whatever.❤
Nah, she won’t do Tarja at all 🤷♂️
@@vahvasydan3656 Her loss then. You miss out on a lot of good music when you have a closed mind.
It seems inevitable but isn't it about time to bury the Tarja era? If people really want to listen to those previous albums you are welcome to do that, after all you bought them. Nightwish, out of necessity, first hired Annette and later Floor. The Tarja era is over and done with, part of history. It doesn't help neither the band, Tarja, Annette nor Floor to keep going on and on stoking a fire long after it has been extinguished. Give it a rest, I implore you.
Addendum
To the person giving a thumbs down on all Floor videos thank you from the bottom of my heart. After all, all reactions, even the negative ones, helps the videos in the ranking on YT...
I am afraid of this never ever ending - too much time invested during the last 15 years and it is not just the deal only with Nightwish ---> Arch Enemy - Angela vs. Alissa; Kamelot - Roy vs. Tommy
Why would would anyone want to bury the Tarja or Annette era? While I get that some people have this innate urge to compare things as if it is some sort of arms race because it is the latest thing it is entirely possible to appreciate each era/singer in their own right -- It reminds me of the typical console fanboi/girl arguments that people made. The lengths they go through to validate their latest purchase is comical (and sad in some instances).
This will never end. And rightfully so. IMO, Floor is the best singer out of the 3 'cause she has the most "weapons" at her disposal to give the best performance. I STILL enjoy going back and listening to the original versions of certain songs. There are still certain songs that Floor doesn't do well like Wish I had an Angel. 3 live albums and she still sounds a bit awkward doing it. But other songs she just made her own. The comparisons will rage on although I am in agreement that they should be put on the back-burner from now on. They just need to make an album fully utilizes Floor's power and people will shut up once and for all.
I think by "bury the Tarja era" he means to treat it as ended, like a completed chapter. I agree, that she was also good and I also enjoy listening to her singing, but the permanent comparisons can really grate on ones appreciation for the songs themselves in both (or all three) versions.
How can you bury something that never started? Have you seen any Tarja on this channel?
7:00 You forgot to add the card for the video.
I prefer Tarja's voice. His interpretation is unique to his voice.
What a hell was that?????
Lovely reaction like always. I agree with you on the clarity and precision when Floor sings. Floor introduced me to Nightwish, so I first listened to DATDDO and Slaying The Dreamer sung by Floor, but when I went back and listened to the original version of the same songs, I couldn't understand what was happening (vocally). It would be nice to see your reactions of some After Forever stuff. Some great performances would be Follow In The Cry(Pinkpop 2004), Monolith Of Doubt(Kopspijkers 2002) and Sins Of Idealism(no idea where or when, but live ofc).
Nice hair! Nothing else...(just because you always have great quality in the reactions, so it's like given) :)
Awwnn thank you! ❤️🔥🐲
Love your reactions, also do you know that they put in nods to other bands? @8:23 ish definitely Metallica's one.
Floor was not 100% here. She was recovering from a bad case of the flu.
Your channel is my favorite in terms of reactions and comments about Floor, oh and I really like and enjoy your videos when you sing.
Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
I have the same feeling, I wasn't a huge Nightwish fan back in the day but over the last few years hearing Floor's versions of the songs it just sounds like this is how they're supposed to sound.
Nothing against the first 2 singers but Floor just seems like the missing piece, at least to me.
This song was very good, Floor Jansen did his musical performance and that's cool, but Tarja Turunen's interpretation is unforgettable because whoever heard this song on the show in the voice of the former vocalist was marked by this classic. But I liked it because the current singer gave her signature on the songs and for me who studies music in an academic way is valid.🤩👍🎶🎶🎶
Which Tarja do you mean exactly in this version of the song?
Floor is singing here so I don't understand the headlines
oh first, this title intrigues me, now im curious
Did you alsoo do ""Wolvenstorm" from the Game The Witcher 3 ? 😜😎👌by the way I love the "rap" part of "Slaying The Dreamer" 😜😜😜
You havent really listened to Floor in her After Forever years right? I mean, bcs Although it really sounds different from that time (bcs since from there she have mastered many other techniques and styles than just her older operatic vocals and Standard beltings) she's not uncomfortable at all in higher register and classical singing
And if it is really the case youre not famíliar with after forever i highly recomend you to react to "Monolith of Doubt- After Forever live 2002" thats a high performance and also popular among reaction videos (As far as her former bands go)
here is the link to the clip. ua-cam.com/video/3TmKHkQx45U/v-deo.html
Love your channel but did you say Floor is not comfortable with classical?
Just read an excerpt from "Once Upon a Nightwish" last night and found out that Tarja struggled with some of the songs that Tuomos wrote, admitting that she still couldn't sing (at the time of writing) "Stargazers" properly. It's commonly thought that Tuomos writes songs to fit his singers, but the reality appears to be that he writes what he writes and the singers have to deal with it. During the recording for "Oceanborn" Tarja referred to Toumos as, "a real bastard" because of his lack of sensitivity to her singing needs. They used some tricks to get the vocal tracks in the can.
Perhaps what you're hearing in the original Tarja version, is some fudging to get past a section she hadn't mastered.
Please do a reaction to Floors other project Northward as well. (e.g. Get What You Give /official lyric video). I would love to hear your opinion on it.
Just rewatch it with Tarja at "End of an Era"
Can't be beaten.
Nonsens, Marko overpowers Tarja completely.
I think End of an era performance is better... the last part with Tarja is pretty epic.. and you can crearly hear what she's signing.. I always thought that her live voice is much better than her studio voice
Well now there isn't Princess Mononoke poster but a naked girl poster in the background 🤣
At least the video does cover the poster this time :D
She's from "The Last Unicorn". She a Unicorn who's been turned into a human, it's a really beautiful story. But yeah, I think I'll switch the order of the posters so Mononokehime is more visible instead of hidden behind the Guitalele
Its Floors song know :)
Yes I am going to be that one this time. Even though I am a HUGE Floor fan, like Sleeping Sun I prefer Tarja version. Taste of different people is subjective though.
you are no huge fan of floor because you talk too much about tarja i,m a huge fan and friend of floor for me sings all songs better and with much more emotion than boring tarja
@@jzundert You must be a new fan. I started listening to Nightwish in 1999 so yes I like listening to Tarja as well. Don't be a Floor fan boy about someone liking all three singers please.
I have started to hate these Floor fans, who can't take even tiniest bit of critique, or if someone actually prefers Tarja more on some songs. Why do you need to be so butthurt. I'm huge fan of Floor, but no, she doesn't do everything better than Tarja. She is still the best singer for Nightwish for sure.
tarja is past tuomas is happy with floor mayby she sings his songs like he meant to sing them floor can sing everything and with emotion but tarja can sing only sing operatic and yes people like you gonna hate me tarja and tarja betray her fans to leave nightwish
You're 100% entitled to you opinion, art is subjective and the thing is, we don't HAVE to choose anyways!
Also, omg this thread, I've been wanting to make a whole video about that topic but I'm still trying to find a way to articulate it. There is nothing that get me more fired up than that at the moment. I can't say the even the word "opera" or "classical singing" without people responding that I should get over Tarja or something. Talking about Floor's operatic singing is not necessarily a comparison with Tarja. With that said, no singer is perfect, or is the best one on earth. That's the beauty about art: you can always improve.
I'm sure Floor takes singing lessons to improve herself still today. Masters of their craft understand the importance of always improving, that's what makes them what they are.
ANYWAYS.
That's Floor, not Tarja
Floor is making Tuomas his songs how he meant them...
No Floor video without some negative comment from Elvann about Floor.
Yes: Here we go again.
The thing I find funny is the people that are critical couldn't hold a candle to Floor ....However everyone has there own opinions , nothing wrong with that ...
Agree, she always has something negative to say about the way Floor sings, but I dont pay attention to it anymore, Im just glad that Tuomas is happy to have Floor on the band and how she sings his songs, that's the most important thing to me, him being the leader of NW
I think "negative" is the wrong way to understand what's happening here. Elvann is a classical singer, so she'll hear it and understand it from that perspective. Plus she knows these songs. So what's wrong with calling it like you see it? Seriously, do you want a reaction, or an acted hero-worship video? This is a legit reaction.
Also, I do think Floor's the best thing since sliced bread, but she's also human, and therefore not always perfect. So this sort of criticism is to be expected.
@@jimmyboy131 Floor is also a singer who has had classical training, however, Elvann ALWAYS says she can't sing classically, I've seen a bunch of vocal coaches analyze Floor's style and they all give her props for her very classical style on some songs, but I think Elvann is just bs cause she's a huuuge Tarja fan and she would never get over it, she would never accept that Floor fits every style she wants, pop, metal, classical/operatic, etc, I don't think their reviews are objective at all, she's constantly comparing Floor to Tarja and that's not okay
Hey Elvann. Nice reaction and new camera position! Have you seen/reacted to Floor singing the Stargazer at Tampere show? It´s all-in classical style :)
I didn't yet but I will for sure!
That is exactly how it is supposed to sound. I thought this was one of Tarja's weakest songs (- I thought she did not understand it!) Floor understands it and performs it as it was meant to be. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. I did like your reaction I felt you really enjoyed this song and performance. Great vid. Thank you.
Well I personally think Floor's better at the more pop-theatrical approach, while Tarja focus almost entierly on the classical approach. Floors greatest strenght are afterall her nonconformity to any of the more established musical styles, which suit Toumas own nonconformity to typical composer guidelines.
@@magnuscarlsson9969 It’s exactly like Elvan said: Floor puts so much thought into what she sings. That is indeed her greatest strength. She really interprets the song and puts a great deal of thought in figuring out what she needs to do to tell the story in the best possible way. She puts a little bit of one technique here, and a bigger portion of another technique there, and she works her way through the song, trying to understand the song and figure out how it sounds best. I feel that Tarja didn’t do that, she only came to sing the song and that’s it. She didn’t put that much work in understanding and interpreting it the way Floor does. That’s why Floor understands the song while Tarja didn’t. That is the reason why Floor is able to make every song shine and sound better than ever before.
@@treintje1001 Yeah that's why I got extremely hyped for the new album after reading the pre release reviews and interviews.
Floor said this album was a challenge so it just have to be AMAZING!
Please react to Valley of the Queens, it has 3 beautiful singer's which includes Floor Jansen. The other 2 ladies are very famous too, you will not regret it, I promise,. Thanks from New Zealand
Je devrais le savoir. J'hésitais à regarder cette vidéo, parce que honnêtement, j'ai du mal avec cette chanson. C'est l'une des rares chansons que je zappe quand j'écoute ce concert (cela dit, il y en a eu d'autres par le passé que j'ai finis par apprécier, comme quoi, même un idiot peut changer d'avis ! 😁). Mais même si je n'aime pas forcément une chanson à laquelle tu réagis, ça reste toujours intéressant d'avoir tes appréciations et tes observations sur la technique ou l'interprétation. Donc je n'ai vraiment pas perdu mon temps et j'ai aimé cette vidéo. Comme d'habitude.... Merci !
Maybe Floor will contavt you for some operatic vocal lessons. LMFAO. Kidding. She's an ultra-successful, extremely talented vocalist. Not a wannabe, failed singer. I was curious and checked out one of your UA-cam videos. I won't comment on it as I'm trying to be nice.
1:40 Wow Elvann, you look so sexy doing those gestures! Jajaja 😉 I love your channel! Could you react to some very good songs by Kamelot? They will surely be to your liking. A kiss from Argentina!😗
> Kamelot songs:
- Elizabeth
- Abandoned
- Soul Society
- The Hunting
- When the lights are down
On my walk today I was listening to After Forever and on it Floor has a wonderfully bright classical voice. I also have their 2018 Latin America Decades tour live album where Floor broke out her darker, more resonant head voice on a few songs. She also had 'tour flu' so I'm not sure if what we are hearing was her lack of comfort with that tone or the consequences of the bug, but I do understand what you're referring to in her use of that technique. She does use it a bit in the Wacken 2013 show and other shows.
I actually don't like that dark soprano head voice and all that heavy vibrato. It's my primary reason for not liking opera. I do like classical music when that technique is not heavily employed. It's also the reason why I only like some of Tarja's Nightwish songs - the ones where she tends to stay in a brighter tone for most of the song and cools it on her use of all that heavy vibrato.
I can handle that darker tone only in small doses, otherwise to me it begins to sound like an old aunt warbling Christmas carols after one too many visits to the sherry bottle.
Floor has admitted to being a vocal nerd, so there's no doubt in my mind that within the natural range of her voice, she can master any vocal technique. Personally, I'd be quite happy if she didn't bother with this technique. If I wanted to hear that dark head voice with gobs of vibrato, I can always go dig out my copy of "Once".
Thanks for the comment, your thoughts about that were interesting to read! :D
I don't think that sounding opera has to mean sounding like Tarja, and I think that it is something people get confused with a lot. I don't think Tarja should be the operatic sound reference in any way, I still love what she does and have a strong emotional attachment to that, but I prefer a lighter, brighter opera voice texture than she actually goes for.
I think Floor has a really nice operatic tone in general, and in that aspect, I prefer the aesthetic Floor is going for, but she still sings them with too much tension and her breath support doesn't yet seem to be constant, which causes her to be a bit uneven and to lack precision imo. I think that, coming from a pop/rock-voice background she tends to puts too much pressure on her vocal folds, causing her to sound a bit unstable and uncomfortable. It's especially obvious in staccato parts like at the end, where she needs to do really quick sounds. It also shows in very high sustained parts, but when she's in her medium I think her breath management is a bit better.
Anyways, I'm a geek but like, it doesn't mean it's not pretty, and being the hardworking performer and artist that she is I'm pretty sure she's aware of it herself and is working towards it. Art is a process, you're never done with it, and that attitude Floor has about her art is what makes me appreciate her most.
@@ElvannReacts Thanks for the nice reply.
I'm aware that Tarja's sound doesn't represent opera, for I know that there are many styles of sounds in that genre. Years ago I sang classical music, so I do have a frame of reference.
Regarding Floor's operatic voice, I find that when she stays with her natural, brighter tone, she is quite relaxed and the sound flows. However, I have noticed the straining when she adopts that darker tone. During the Decades tour in Latin America, she sang one song using that darker tone (forget which one) and I noticed the straining. She wasn't comfortable, but she was also battling a bug.
When she goes for that darker tone, I noticed how her head tilts a bit forward, the jaw drops a bit and the mouth shape is not as open as things tighten up. It was easily noticeable as that's exactly what I did years ago when I pushed into the upper end of my tenor range without going falsetto. It always ended up sounding strained. I was a natural baritone, but as I had the range, I was frequently shuttled between bass and tenor as the need arose. It gave me an understanding of what it was like to sing at the extremes of comfort.
Keep up the good work as you have one of the better reaction channels. I usually seek out yours and Rebecca's for the technical stuff and Heath for the laugh.
Your set has changed... have you moved?
Also, the frick happened to the song of the beginning? 😂👀🤘
No, I just changed my camera angle from 45 degrees :P
And what do you mean by the song at the begining?
Elvann well, the song starts as one thing and then transforms into something completely different!
I'm pretty sure she has trained in Classical singing.
Ma'am Elvann, please react to STARGAZERS Floor Jansen version!!!
Elvann, I think you are full of... Floor uncomfortable with singing high notes.?. Ridiculous, she is honing her skills for almost a quarter of a century.
The Charismatic Voice said she sounds perfect singing high notes.
Elizabeth is a renowned opera singer and Floor is fabulous in her eyes.
So you are wrong...
Get off the Nightwish train
Tarja who...??
It's Floor not Tarja here 😤