THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER (2022) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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The thing about Christian was that it felt that he was in a different movie because he was giving the role his all as usual
Christian Bale's performance as Gorr was absolutely on point and was perhaps the best performance in the film. I truly wish we could've seen more of his performance and of thw character truly developing and killing Gods.
@@milkiassamuel780 For this movie to have really worked I feel like at least 40% of it needed to feature him. This movie was strangely short by MCU standards, and I've said before that an extra half hour here would have gone a long way toward making it better.
@@mage1439 it's short because they whittled it down to show just the least terrible aspects.
@@mage1439 Apparently there were in fact scenes which featured more of Gorr killing gods and a lot more scenes tied towards Gorr's journey and more character development featuring Thor and Russell Crow's Zeus (deleted scene of this exchange can be found on the digital release). In addition to other scenes, it really feels like this film could've greatly benefited from featuring more of these scenes.
@@milkiassamuel780 Well, that's just ridiculous. Having never written those scenes would have been bad enough, but to have filmed them and then left them out?
“I kinda feel like 13 year olds wrote it.”
You summed up this movie in one sentence.
Agreed.
I felt the same way, but then I found out something about the Thor Movies...
They are filmed in the tone of the narrator. Odin narrated the first 2. They were very serious and kingly.
Ragnarok was opened with Thor telling his story to the skeleton. It was meant to be told in a lighter tone because he's recounting his story to the survivors on the ship. He's trying to lead and lighten the mood.
Love and Thunder is told from the perspective of Korg. That's why it's so light and dumb. If you watch it in that light, you'll see all the mannerisms and mentality of Korg.
@@mattconner6416Thor is a buffoon and is not the same character from the comics. If disney is destroying something they’re emasculating something else. These movies are trash and the writers and director are trash
@@mattconner6416 Being told in a dumb way doesn't make it better just because it was on purpose. Makes it actually worse.
Fun Fact: the little girl that played Gorr's daughter is Chris Hemsworth's real daughter and the little boy that was a young Thor from the running sequence at the beginning is Chris Hemsworth's son as well. His other son was one of the kids in the final battle and so was Taika Watiti's, Christian Bale's and Natalie Portman's children also Chris Hemsworth's wife Elsa Patakay was the Wolf Woman and just like Ragnarok his brother was actor Thor.
Also,Bale`s real daughter was one of the god-kids Gorr tried to scare at Eternity.
I did not know this but that is good to know.
I think this a movie for their kids.
Fun fact: I’m pretty sure they wrote the script too 😂😂😂😂
@@stevevanscoik398 entirely, it had little to do with making a quality film.
"Whosoever be worthy of this hammer shall possess the power of Thor." That's what Odin said (to the hammer) in the first movie. When Thor asked the hammer to protect Jane, she became worthy of it. So when Jane went to visit the remains of the hammer, it reformed to protect her, and thereby she gained the power of Thor.
At least, that's how I interpreted it.
she didnt became worthy when he said it she was always worthy,but him saying that to the hammer is the reason it reacted to her.
There's no way Ragnarok is supposed to be taken into the canon, i'm just not having it. All of these MCU movies are out of canon for me.
@@fu6817 thats why its called the mcu marvel cinematic universe its not the same as the comic one,the comic one is the marve comics universe its just annoingly confusing they have te same initials.
@@Marcustheseer actually his explanation makes more sense. It never reacted to Jane before like this. It only reacted after he spelled it. Thor himself said it so she became worthy. Because there is no way she is as worthy as Captain America.
The first part of the movie is all over the place with too much attention to comedy. The last part made up for that giving us a true villain finding redemption and a fitting ending for Jane. Will be interesting to see where Hemsworth and his daughter go from here. I laughed at the scene of them together with little flashes of temperament as it reminded me exactly how my daughter acts sometimes when i prepare her breakfast
"Can he not use it? He's not worthy?"
Storm breaker does not have the same enchantment/ability as Mjolnir. Really anyone with the strength for it can use storm breaker.
Yep. Even Thanos wielded it against Thor in Endgame.
Only Kratos can use it
I still think it’s funny that Taika Watiti asked Natalie Portman if she was interested in being cast in a Star Wars project since he’s reportedly working on an unknown new project. She was like “Um - did you forget I was already a major character in Star Wars?”
Well, it wouldn't be the first time the same actor has ended up playing two completely separate characters in a single franchise. It would probably be the first time the actor of a *major* character was cast again in another role though.
@@PhailedGamer yeah it’s more the fact that he thought he’d be offering her a favor by giving a cameo role in a major franchise and completely forgot she was already one of THE lead roles in the franchise so a cameo now wouldn’t mean all that much.
Hey Babe, stop by my casting couch with a couple of your Hot Friends, and I'll get you a Giggity Gig in a big Movie!!
It's not funny, it's scary. Taika is working on a SW project and forgot that half of George's Star Wars movies existed. I'm not the kind of person to say "this will be bad because this external factor" but I'm definitely uneasy
@@officialmonarchmusic if it makes you feel any better, rumors are his project is currently uncertain of actually going into production.
"A 13-years-old wrote it!"
Physically? No.
Mentally? Yes.
13 is generous..
I thought the same thing 😂
Chris said 7 year olds
I mean, yeah, it is funny movie, nothing to do with seriousness, also it gave me D&D vibes.
This garbage was written?
I love how everyone recognizes Matt Damon as Loki, but not Sam Neill as Odin and Liam Hemsworth as Thor in the performers' troupe lol
The goats are straight out of Norse mythology, they pull Thor's chariot, and their names are Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjóstr, Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder :P
Apart from having a nose, Christian Bale's portrayal of Gorr the God-Butcher is PERFECT. I wish we'd seen more of him.
using them for meat is a norse myth reference as well iirc.
Matt Damon has a lot more exposure than Sam and Liam. Sam has had an incredible career,but Matt’s has been more recent. Liam has also done well,but Matt has carried movies and also starred in more movies.
It's Luke, not Liam.
You don't need to be worthy to wield Stormbreaker, that's only Mjolnir.
And the reason Jane get's the powers of Thor when she wields Mjolnir is because of the spell Odin puts on it at the beginning of the first Thor movie “Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.”
Also Thor put another spell to protect Jane.
Uh no...Thor placed a enchantment on it..Jane is no Steve Rogers so being worthy isn't the reason.
@@shootingreal5945: Odin's spell that only the worthy can pick up Mjolnir was most certainly still in effect -- it's never been lifted, so it clearly did apply to Jane, Thor's other inadvertent enchantment causing the hammer to call to Jane, notwithstanding.
Steve Rogers is hardly the only other worthy being. (Beta Ray Bill, etc.)
Nah, that's not the reason.
Marvels wanted to be "woker" than the woke mob.. so they gender-swapped the hammer's owner.
@@goofygrandlouis6296 you know Jane Foster first appeared as Thor in 1978 right?
The Shadow Creatures were actually designed by the kids of the actos and the crew. they asked them to draw creepy monsters and took those to the vfx artists to simply turn them into what you see in the movie.
Even though this film wasn't my favourite, I still very much love how muvh of a family driven film it was anf how much fun the cast, and their kids had on this film as you realise how many of the Asguardian kids were in fact the children of the cast and director. Jusst everyone having fun and having the time of their life, even if the film wasn't as good or well recieved. I still had an entertaining time regardless.
It's not our fault, we let the kids take creative control. Blame them.
Aaah that’s absolutely wonderful.
Pretty sure Taika had those kids write it too.
@@MontgomeryWenis wow, no kidding.
"Not everyone gets to be a Superhero." Wise words. Great reaction, Cassie and Carly.
But its from the comics.
@@russellward4624 doesn’t matter we didn’t need it should have brought in beta ray bill instead
@@HTMN161 It does matter though. It hit a few points that needed to be addressed.
1. Not everything is with our power to fix. Not with science and not even in this magical world could they get rid of Jane’s cancer. She only briefly was a “superhero”. Like most of us, our bodies wouldn’t be able to withstand the exposure our hero’s are exposed to 😆
2. Jane and Thor got to say goodbye. And he learned to accept death of a loved one healthily. Instead of falling into abysmal depression or this obtuse humor / pretense of disassociation he uses as a shield.
Those aren't wise words at all. They are completely uninformed words from a person who barely remembers the emotional journey Thor has been on and the plot of the previous films.(not that I blame her for it, a bad memory is a bad memory and that can be a tough thing)
Russell Crowe played Superman’s father in Man of Steel. He plays Zeus here. Zeus also happens to be Wonder Woman’s father! 🤯
Wait a minute, Jed. It sounds like you're trying to find a way to get Chris Hemsworth and Gal Gadot to star in the same movie.
Here's a cameo list. Feel free to add any I didn't catch:
Fake Stage Thor was another Hemsworth brother, Luke Hemsworth, Fake Stage Odin was Sam Neil, and Fake Stage Hela was Melissa Mccarthy. Also her husband was the director/guy moving the props around.
One of Hemsworths, two of Natalie's, and two of Taika Waititi's kids were among the kidnapped children.
Love is Hemsworths actual daughter, Kid Thor in the flashback is his son, and the wolf woman is his wife.
Luka Bale ... Infinity Conez Vendor
Joseph Bale ... Asgardian Kid
@@jcee8493 is Luka his brother or son?
@@videohistory722 Daughter
@@jcee8493 I c.
How could you leave fake Loki off the list? Matt Damon
I loved this movie! It’s about dealing with grief. All the movies since Infinity War have been so dark, which is fine but now they have to show how everyone deals with trauma/grief.
Thor lost his entire family, the love of his life, good friends/Avenger teammates and his entire home planet. At first he fell deep into depression, he beheaded Thanos but that offered little relief so he’s trying to use humor and forced happiness to live on.
Not every character needs to be brooding, or unreasonably oppressive to others (like Wanda). Psychologically this is a good take on how many people deal with tragedy.
I would have like this film a lot more if they toned down on the comedy and made Thor less like a parody. I miss Thor the way he was before Ragnarok, which had a slightly good balance of serious and humor compared to this. I did like Christian's performance as Gorr. In fact...
There was a god named Thor
Who faced the butcher known as Gorr.
The butcher needed an axe to open a door
But Thor brought him down to the floor.
They eventually made peace at the core.
I did my best, but I can't think of more.
how about a Limmerick?
There once was a god butcher called Gorr,
who was after the weapon of Thor,
he kidnapped asgardian kids
threatened to tear them to bits
but in the end followed his plan no more.
You say it's too comedy based but this is the only Thor movie that made me cry. And imo the only one that has a chance to catch tears from people.
needs a mix i think. the second thor was probably the worst mcu film it was just boring and tried too hard. ragnarok felt fresh, but they went overboard on this one.
Old Thor bored me to fucking tears. It was a waste of potential in the most heartbreaking way. I honestly get sad thinking about the fact that we wasted two whole Thor movies before actually getting to see Thor.
@@existenceisrelative I´m sorry but Thor since Ragnarok is not Thor. I respect you like it, but it´s another character, not Thor. The first two movies were a more faithful depiction of the character.
This movie's story is Korg telling the campfire/bedtime tale of the Mighty Thor. So it is embellished with his sensibilities.
The goats are based on the Norse Myths, they pulled his chariot. There is more to the myths than that,about them, but you don't really want to know. Except the screaming part was made up for the movie.
Don't want to know that they were slaughtered, eaten and then brought back to life the next morning?
The screaming part was a nod to the screaming goat meme making the rounds of the internet a few years ago. They were a bit annoying, but so was the meme! However, I was happy to see them because of their place in real Norse mythology.
@@badbiker666 Yeah, but the screaming got old instantly..
@@Masterfighterx I must agree! Still liked the movie, though.
Using a stupid character's narration to explain how moronic and unfunny your movie is isn't really a great selling point.
If you want to keep the Thor theme going, I would suggest watching Adventures in Babysitting.
Elisabeth Shue is a babe
Great recommendation. Cassie, write that one down! Super fun 80's movie. Not exactly a chick flick but definitely more of a chick flick than all the leading man stuff we've got you watching. I used to watch it as a teenager whenever it came on.
great movie.
A much better movie.
One of the best opening scenes of any movie.
Your critique about the seriousness of the kids and Gorr not matching the comedy overtones is very on point
I don't get it.. I mean.. Marvel's already had a Genocidal madman being defeated by a dance battle.. it's not like this is something new to Marvel :P
@@asgerkrogh5671 They did, but Ronan was never portrayed as seriously as Gorr. He also got a lot less screen time and no motivation. He was an "insert bad guy #14/Type B here" type of villain so the Guardians have someone to fight. He may have been genocidal but aside from a few very short moments, the first Guardians never got that serious and maintained a consistent lighthearted tone. This movie flip-flopped around because it was generally one of the silliest MCU movies up to this point but at the same time the villain was portrayed incredibly seriously and they also put in a cancer subplot that is never played for laughs once. It's like they wrote two different versions of the movie, couldn't decide which one to take, and therefore just made both.
@@asgerkrogh5671 people complain about Ronan all the time
@@asgerkrogh5671 That's a disingenous comparison because Ronan wasn't actually defeated by a dance battle. GotG also balanced the serious moments and comedic moments perfectly so the dance didn't really feel out of place because it's less about them being silly out of nowhere but more like Peter using his ingenuity to trick Ronan.
Nothing in Thor ever felt like that. It's just a barrage of dumb quips which served no purpose in the story. The constant shift between serious and comedy was jarring as fuck. Just because it worked for GotG, doesn't mean it has to be repeated everyfuckinwhere.
The MCU has never been able to balance seriousness and humour. Pre MCU Marvel films could like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films, some of the Fox X-Men films, the first 2 Blade films had moments of humour in between the action and so on. But the people behind the MCU seem scared that they'll get accused of taking the films too seriously if they don't fill them with unfunny jokes and bad quips and puns. It's worst when they have characters laugh off the injuries and deaths of their friends and family.
It's like flipping TV channels between a great horror movie with Gorr and power rangers with Thor.
It's so sweet that the little girl Thor adopted is his real life daughter. And his brother was in it, as we know, again playing Thor in the Asgardian play, same as he did in Ragnarok. In this one, they also cast his wife, she was the "wolf woman on a woman wolf" LOL. His two sons played kid Thor and teenage Thor. I love that Chris Hemsworth has enough clout to get his whole family in the movie. 🥰🙂
The goats are part of the original Thor mythology so it's not really random. When it comes to their screams, there are real goats that scream like that.
Love was played by Chris Hemsworth and he's said that while he loved having her in this movie he doesn't want her to become a child actor so he has no plan to have her play the part in the next movie. So they might recast her or age her up or something.
The level of “wholesomeness” you 2 have is actually unbelievable. That being said, I actually agree with your opinions of the Thor movies.
That was Chris Hemsworth's real-life daughter playing GOR's daughter!!!She was Magnificent!!!Hope she does more films with her Dad!!!
she look more like she would be bales daughter lol she missing her dads blue eyes
I swear Carly's laugh gives me a serotonin overdose. But she said it right "it's as if hyperbole was a movie" lol.
“I feel like 13yr olds wrote it!” That is a very astute observation! Don’t feel bad if you didn’t like the movie, not many did.
I take it as this is Korg telling a story about all this which is why it’s so funny. I mean it starts with his narration.
And since Korg is played by the director, it's the director just saying to heck with the fanbase, I'll do whatever I want. Ragnarok was good because Taika Waititi didn't write it, just direct it. Now he wrote & directed JoJo Rabbit, which a lot of people liked, but again it had the same faults of this not know if it was serious or a comedy.
I'd say if you don't like one or either of those, don't watch his 2023 film that he also writes and directs. It's not unfair to say that some just can't do it all. George Lucas is a good director but without a good editor, his films aren't as great. Frank Miller is a good writer. He should never direct again.
All I can say about the children fighting (besides the fact that this movie has the humanist theme of people helping each other and themselves rather than relying upon 'heroes'/gods/external forces) is that every kid in the theater freaking lost it. (It was like the positive side of when I saw Endgame and got to watch dozens of pre-teens confront the realization of death when all their heroes started dying, helpless to stop it.)
The tendrils of lightning forming the branches of Ygdrassil among the children when Thor empowers them got a tear out of me in the theater.
@@LordVolkov same for me.
I think they summed it up perfectly: “hmm..well…umm…well well well…it was…weird…”
The Jane Foster/Thor storyline in the comics was met with mixed reviews. Some liked it, some said it ruined Thor. One thing people forget is this struggle was done back in the 70's in an issue of "What If..." when Jane found Thor's hammer and was him for a while. In the end, she lived with Thor in Asgard.
I like to think that the movie was a story threw the mind of korg. That’s why it’s so weird in the sense where he is present and alittle more serious when he’s absent. It’s his story telling perspective.
I was thinking the same thing. That's why it is random and missing details in some places (like how long has Jane been doing Thor, and how did Valkyrie know about it?) because Korg is only throwing in highlights and what he considers the "good bits."
I agree that they tried too hard to be funny. It was kind of jarring to have such a creepy villain but they’re just joking around and not taking anything seriously. Never felt like anyone was actually in danger.
" Whosoever holds this hammer if he(or she) be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." - Odin.
It's why Jane had the power, and why Cap had the power.
26:46 Again, there is no “Worthy” spell on Storm breaker, we saw Odin cast the spell on Mjolnir in the first Thor movie. Jane is worthy because Mjolnir allowed her to pick it up, but anyone with enough strength could lift Stormbreaker. I mean, even Thanos took a swing at Thor with it in Endgame, and he definitely wasn’t worthy.
I just find it funny how many reactors make she same mistake, that and miscounting the infinity stones at the end of The Dark World.
Yeah thank you for mentioning that alot of people forget that
Regarding Mjolnir and Stormbreaker, this is a common point of confusion. We know Mjolnir has a worthiness enchantment on it. It doesn't seem like Stormbreaker does.
it definitely doesnt, even Groot lifted it as he made it.
@@markmac2206 Lol let me try my hand at being a mystic ultra nerd. Until the pieces were assembled, Stormbreaker didn't exist yet. By using part of himself to make the weapon, I'd say that sympathetic magic would let Groot wield it pretty much no matter what
@@dansdiscourse4957 good point.
lol Russell Crowe had me dying when he comes out and lifts his skirt up to come down the steps
Well... Jane becomes the Mighty Thor in the comics. You're watching comic book movies. Pepper becomes Rescue in the comics.
Yes, in the comics they have to carry story arcs for decades, so eventually everyone gets to be a superhero. But I can understand their trepidation when that mentality comes to the movies after this franchise has only been around for 14 years.
I just wish this film was as serious as the beginning and the end with Eternity.
I doubt it changes how you felt about the movie, but “Whosoever holds this hammer, if they be worthy, shall possess the powers of Thor” is kinda the whole shtick around Jane having powers. Same reason Cap can suddenly call lightning in Endgame.
Fair point. Odin himself said it in Ragnarok that the hammer wasn’t the source of Thors power but only a tool to focus it. And if I remember correctly Cap never had the power to summon lightning 😂😂😂 neither had the Asgard’s kids
It was the additional enchantment by Thor making Mjolnir always protect Jane..Thus giving her the power of Thor. She was not worthy like Cap..
@@T.J.S. I don’t necessarily agree that Jane is not worthy. I think the “enchantment” scene shows an unreliable narrator (Korg) describing what he believes to be the truth, when the audience is being shown the enchantment that already exists upon the hammer, for why would an enchantment woven to protect Jane end up killing her? Also, In the comic Jane Foster becomes Thor when Donald Blake is no longer worthy and Mjolnir chooses her… also Thor just straight up says it in the movie lol.
It's so shit when anyone else than Thor lifts it. I still hate Beta-Bill even when it has been 30 years since i read the comic where he was in.
@@fu6817 why?
One thing to remember is that a large portion of this movie is Korg telling the story of Thor. Therefore, it's full of hyper drama and hyperbole.
Using a stupid character's narration to explain why your movie is dumb as shit and not funny at all really isn't a great selling point.
Christian Bale needs to play a villain more often as he was really good in this.
Like Joker and Pennywise combined into one!
I didn't like this movie. I was disappointed. But I liked your reaction to it!
This movie DID NOT deserve Christian Bale. Period.
I like the way you both glossed over Korg saying "It looks like a shy courgette" lol
"Is Zeus Italian?" Wow.
Well of all the Marvel movies that I've watched, and I have watched all of them, this was definitely a movie.
This was thrash 🤣
Thor 1 is still the best Thor movie in my opinion it adapts j Michael Strasynsky Thor comics quite well
I feel like it's closer to 30% of a couple different movies, and 40% just dragged on
@@haabat1342 Trash* Thrash is something completely different.
@@Masterfighterx thanks. Yeah,fking thrash 🤣🤣
“Must be hard for you to see your ex-girlfriend and your ex-hammer hanging out, getting on so well.” Korg is great! 😂
Just his mouth tho
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It always cracks me up when you first hear Matt Damon's character yell out, "Asgard" during the performance. Because it sounds as if he says, "Ass Guard". 🤣😂
The choreographed Sister Lookaway move at 5:16 was awesome!!!!
This is one movie I don't want to be notified for
Funfact: In the comics he Necrosword is the first ever symbiote created by Knull the God of Symbiotes as a weapon to slay all gods, it is the progenitor of all symbiotes including Venom
A thing can be a symbiote?
@@antoinettelopes That thing is a symbiote, Knull pulled it out of his shadow and used it to cut off the head of a celestial, using a hammer and the heat from the celestial's severed head he shaped it further making a sword. The heat of the celestial's head and the loud banging of the hammer which caused the sword to take shape is the reason symbiotes are vulnerable to sound and heat.
He dubbed the Necrosword "All-Black" and together they killed many gods until one golden god struck him down and they both fell to Gorr's homeworld. Both wounded the golden god begged Gorr for help which angered Gorr due to his unanswered prayers, the Necrosword felt his anger and bonded to him and he killed the golden god. Gorr then went off to kill more gods while Knull recovered he witnessed the Necrosword bond to Gorr and realized he can bond living beings to his shadows and began to create symbiotes.
@@BSM-vw6cf this movie whittled the God Butcher down to kidnapper. It was really such a wasted opportunity with the character and Christian Bale.
The little girl is Chris's real life daughter.
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They just keep make him stupider in every movie. I figure two more and he will be declared intellectually stunted
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When thor does the splits and the jumping helicopter kick it is a tribute to Jean claude van damme. Ps I really enjoy your reactions there fun.
These two are the kind of people this movie was made for ..definitely not for more serious fans of Thor
Right
In Ragnarok, they turned Thor into a comedy which I think worked but in this one it feels like doubling down on the comedy aspect just turned Thor into the punch line of a cheap joke
Yeah in Ragnarok I think it was handled very well and it was a huge success. But in this one it feels like Taika turned it up to 11 and went overboard. I think he'll learn from this and understand that more doesn't necessarily mean better.
The whole movie is like Korg telling the story, it's got his mannerisms all through .If you think this then it kind of works.
@@raymondminty4923 I think your interpretation makes sense but I still think the direction was a huge mistake and it destroyed the movie (for me at least)
@@XxXDestroyer He won't learn. He's too full of himself now and on board with Disney's woke agenda. Helmsworth just said he won't work with Taika in the MCU anymore. LOL
@@Easy_Skanking That's a good thing, I think they need a break from Taika's style. He made it work once but I think they're better off continuing with another Director.
Thor should have aimed at Zeus's head just like Thanos said.
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Well, as much as people dont like it, this is a kids movie mostly meant for kids.
Fun fact: The Wolf Woman in Korg's initial narration is Chris Hemsworth's real life wife, Elsa Pataky (and Gorr's daughter is their daughter).
Great job ladies!!!🎬👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽There is definitely an odd balance here, like several films mashed together. The in joke is this is not the first time Matt Damon has played Loki. He was Loki in the 1999 comedy "Dogma" too. But he wasn't from Asgard. Chris Hemsworth's brother portrays him in the play.
I don't know about everyone else, but I am beyond tired of the trend of killing the superheroes we grew up with. Superhero movies should be made by those who love the characters.
But they didn’t kill Thor, why are you saying this
When you turn a beloved character into a punchline, you have murdered them.
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The goats are a reference to Tanngrisnir and Tanngnjostr, the two goats who pull Thor's chariot in Norse mythology.
Beautiful reactions as always, always a treat when your lovely sister joins you. 😊
I think a Gorr story and Jane Foster cancer story should have been split to 2 different movies. Gorr's such a massively impactful character/villain in the Thor comics and to see an actor of Bale's caliber reduced to comic relief as well as underwritten, is absolutely awful.
Jane's cancer and her transformation to the 'Mighty Thor' could've been really amazing and emotional. To tie that off with Thor's own dilemma of existential immortality. I think a lot of us were left gobsmacked how Waititi and especially Feige thought treating the two most emotional arcs of Thor's character in the comics were used in live action.
thank you, agreed 100%. This is sad.
Yeah, neither one of their stories were done any justice at all in this movie. Hands up if you thought the end was going to see her magically cured. ✋
I disagree. I think what works about the film is the idea of a formerly devout mortal turned godkiller, contrasted with a mortal woman of science who takes up arms in defense of gods even though she knows it will kill her to do so.
That's a helluva f---ing story. The problem with the movie is that it keeps interrupting that story for a rom-com love triangle: Thor and his two hammers.
The thing that doesn't work about the movie is Thor. He's a distraction, the comic relief, actually, from the movie with his name on it.
The movie _should_ have been called Love and Thunder, focused on Jane vs Gorr, and only brought in Thor _with_ the Guardians in the second half of the film when Jane realizes she's too new and in over her head.
Your complaint is that this tedious crap was too condensed and short?
ain't nobody got time for all that
the biggest issue with this movie is that the villain is played completely straight and evil, and very well, while everything else is extremely goofy and played over the top. just doesnt fit together well at all.
With the hammer she was given the Power of THOR.
"Where were all these gods all this time?"
That's exactly Gorr's point.
I suggest watching Enemy Mine at some point. It's an underrated SciFi gem.
Not everything will be for everyone and I feel this connected with me more cause when my life gets dark/sad I use humor to keep my spirit up , most of my fam and some others I know use this tool for the sad times too. These types of films feel more real also cause they don't stay stuck on one tone like most entertainment does which feel more fantasy than fantasy lol. Most people in real life don't stay stuck in one gear , most of us are silly and sad and everything in between but think that it's only us that are like that and not most of the world.💙🖤 I thought I was just gonna like this movie but I ended up loving this more than I thought. :)
Exactly. I think this is why I loved the movie so much.
"What happened to his hammer?"
She really does have "Short-Term Movie Loss!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
FUN FACT: Jane actually became Mighty Thor in the comics. so don't be surprise about that in the movie, since a lot of character in the comics was able to use mjolnir.
The way I took this movie, the ridiculousness of some of the scenes was because it was Korg who is narrating the story. He's telling the story to the kids and those extreme scenes are where his imagination goes a little more wild in the retelling.
I think the beginning when Korg is narrating might be the only good part of the movie. If they had kept that up a little while longer, at least through the silly stuff, then I feel like I could have accepted that as his telling. But he only narrated the first few minutes. 🤷🏻♂️
i'll be honest, the goats are hilarious and you two finding them annoying somehow makes them MORE hilarious to me
It is weird that in the same movie, it's like "we have Christian Bale as THE GOD KILLER and also Melissa McCarthy as Hela" I imagine the movie switching tones so often is because it's kind of a long story being told by Korg
Fun Fact: Thor Love & Thunder is the first Thor solo outing in which Loki does “NOT” make a physical appearance, though he is mentioned.
18:12 That reaction is priceless.
I absolutely loved it. Comedy and tragedy have such a complex relationship. Not sure why people can't handle that. It needed to be an hour longer. We needed more of Gorr's progression into madness. It was rushed. That was my only note. Taiki is brilliant.
i get the lightnis of jokes,but this movie at times was like a person on a funeral going arround telling jokes to people that are crying,it just doesnt fit.
@@Marcustheseer definitely disagree.
@@montv291 oke fair enuf.
I think Waititi went a little too far with some stuff. I'd legitimately rate the movie higher if the goats didn't scream every time they appeared on screen. That said, Waititi's brand of absurdist humor is so endearing, he really seems like a lovely man and it comes through in all of his movies, including this one.
I loved this. The theming/pacing is a little odd, but that is kind of a hallmark of all of Taika Watiti's movies except for Ragnarok. He blends tragedy and humor together in a way that is not seamless at all. It is confronting and wacky, but I kind of love it. It's kind of like real life where tragedy can happen at any moment.
Behind the scenes....The shadow monsters were designed by a bunch of kids after Taika Waititi was having trouble coming up with ideas, and his daughter drew a crayon picture of a monster for him...giving him the idea to get a bunch of kids to make drawings.
Gor's daughter was played by Chris Hemsworth's daughter.
Actor Loki - Matt Damon
Actor Thor - Liam Hemsworth
Actor Odin - Sam Niell
Actor Hela - Melissa McCarthy. LOL
Actor Thor is actually played by Luke Hemsworth. He’s the older brother. Liam is the younger brother. The Wolf Woman was played by Chris Hemsworth’s wife, his son played Kid Thor and his other daughter played an Asgardian kid. Also Christian Bale, Natalie Portman & Taika Waititi’s kids played Asgardian kids.
@@bidwell13 Yes, Luke Hemsworth. I stand corrected. Thanx. :)
@@ChrisReise no problem. I kept calling him Liam when talking to friends and family.
I can always count on you two for earnest reactions. I was going through the most personally when "Thor: Love and Thunder" first hit theaters and then again when it hit Disney+, thanks to you ladies, FINALLY saw it! It was way left of what I thought or expected, but really true to Thor's character and cool to see a bada** Dr Jane!
So correct Cassie this movie feels like it was written by 13-year-olds such a horrible movie no story no meaning to anything you can’t like any character but I always love watching movies with you and your sister thank you again as always
I found the most endearing thing about this movie, was when Thor told Mjolnir to always protect Jane. When the broken hammer sensed that Jane was dying, it reassembled and gave her the power of Thor to save her, although Jane's body wasn't strong enough to stay Thor for long.
Endearing, you mean convenient? That's not how the hammer works, you have to be worthy to wield the power, if this movie's rule about it was like that, then Steve should've looked like Thor too
It sucks
I love that Carly freaked out over seeing Roy Kent cos I did too!
lol, we actually loved the goats by the end.
I overall enjoyed it, I feel like we didn't see enough of Gorr and some of the humor didn't land. I thought the goats were really annoying on first watch, but they kinda grew on me. It was nice to see The mighty Thor storyline, but we didn't get enough of it on its own, imo.
The screaming goats are actually part of Norse mythology from the 13th century-Tanngnjóstr and Tanngrisnir-the goats who pull Thor's chariot. They also appear in the Thor comics under the names Toothgnasher and Toothgrinder. So they are more than comic releif in the movie. Of course the myth is even weirder than the movie. In the myth the goats are slaughtered to provide sustenance for the gods, then Thor uses Mjölnir to resurect them the next day.
They ate them when Tor traveled to Utgårdaloke that one time. He's a giant, not a god. Maybe you're mixing the story about Särimner with his goats? And also i dont want to be picky, but our religion ended in the 12th century.
And please refrain from using terms like myths and mytholog about Asatron. It's quite offensive and disrespectful.
@@loris-bismar The original religion may have ended in the 12th century, but the mythology (and mythology is the proper term) has endured to this day. The definition of mythology is a collecion of stories, folktales, or lore centered around a particular religious or cultural tradition. So it is not offensive in the least. The story I am referring to comes from the Prose Edda written by Snorri Sturluson in the 13th century.
My exact words to my husband when we finished watching were "That was weird." I agree with your general assessment, although I thought the goats were funny.
The screaming got old real quick.
Well Jane Foster became Thor in the comics and she had cancer in the comics like she does in the movie and the hammer was killing her in the comics as well
Yeah in the comments it was really sad the way she died 
I think they had the elements to create something more epic, but decided to go for something more family/comedy related. Still, I think it was a good fun movie and a nice farewell to Thor (for now, until Avengers Secret Wars) and a way to show why he won't be around in future MCU movies.
I love this movie!!
YOU HAVE TO SEE EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!!!
“That hammer was help you to control your power, focus it. It was never your source of strength.” keyword “power” mjolnir was never meant to heal you from cancer only grant those who are worthy to possess the power of Thor.
You two need to watch "Sneakers" (1992). It's one of the greatest and most intelligent heist films ever made. You two will love it.
I love Jane as Mighty Thor. Her story in the comics was some of my favorite comics stuff in over a decade. I only wish we could have gotten her for another movie or two.
I really enjoyed this movie! Christian Bale should have had more scenes. He's so good!
They turned Gorr from a God Butcher into a Kidnapper. A serious writing error that ruined the movie. Had great potential, but they really wanted to strangle every laugh from the audience that they could.
@@PeglegSailor Fair point. It is a PG movie after all, aimed at kids of all ages, like me! A movie where Gorr goes killing Gods after Gods after Gods would be a different movie indeed! Somebody should make that movie, but until then we got this one, which can never take away from Bale's performance. Still top notch!
@@ISavant are you talking about the distress signals? Which gods did we see him kill? Actually, visually, see him kill? Except for his own god at the beginning, we don’t see him kill any other god, only the aftermath.
Gorr was easily the best part of this movie!
“And FLICK!” 😄
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Fun fact: I came late to the movie, so I missed Gor's introduction and the death of his daughter. It made the ending scene with him remembering holding her as she died so much harder.
"Alright, alright! Octi's GONE!"(Throws severed head at kids.) Made me laugh so hard!
I am glad they didn't wuss out and save Jane last second.
Yup, Roy Kent is Hercules!
Love and Thunder was a fun movie made for their families. Many of the captured children are kids of the cast and crew. Chris Hemsworth's kids were all in it including his son who played young Thor and his daughter who played Love.
I don't like it when people use excuses for lazy writing, you can still make a fun family movie not have such lame jokes and a tone that's all over the place
First time commenter: My family (Mom, Dad, Teen son, and two younger girls) are avid Marvel movie fans and we friggin LOVED this friggin movie. Yes, it's could dial down the quirky a little bit but on the whole it was a very good **Family** movie. Note: my kids absolutely loved that the Asgard kids got power boosted and went into battle. ⚔️. I was a bit Leary of how they'd portray the "She Thor", but it was so well done that towards end I was absolutely rooting for her 💪.
Thanks for posting. 🙂
Seeing a naked Thor and hearing talk of orgies is a family movie?
I always enjoy your reactions~!
The girl becomes the God of love as "eternity" basically converts his essence into the "wish" which is the Gorr's daughter.