Arrows - Viper 50mm - Unbox, Build, Radio Setup, & Maiden Flights
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More wisdom from Brian Phillips - "A plane that flies slow will fly fast." Thank you for that gem! 😁
You bet!
Maybe is should have been more like this... "A plane that will fly slow, will KEEP flying fast." - Better - LOL!
So many great things with this channel. The flying, the unboxing, the setups etc. But I think the best thing is your wife's excellent video skills. Rock on Ms. Camera Crew!!!
Couldn't agree more! She is GOOD! Our new camera helps some, but wouldn't matter if Megan couldn't keep the plane in frame. It's so much harder than it looks!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you and the better half for all you do. I'm just getting back into the RC game after 25 years. I've built over 30 RC planes from scratch but never flew them. I let others with more experience fly my planes. I even built a German Taub I think it's called and all my planes were glows. I recently bought the aero scout, the arrows bigfoot, the consendo glider and the twin otter. I also bought a used p-51 1.5. I am learning so much about the electric planes and the new technology from your awesome videos. I just joined the AMA and I'll be joining the RC club located in Fredericksburg, VA. Thanks for your time responding back to me as it's quite the honor. Thank the Mrs too. Happy flying!!
I 100% agree she have excellent video skills 😃
It's flying so smooth and it looks pretty stable too.
really is!
Thanks for the review Brian .. Yes mine is a blast to fly also..
Totally!
I love mine, it’s my go to for quick flights.
I can see that for sure. Just need some spring weather to fly in comfort. We forget just how amazing it is when it's nice out, when it's in the dead of winter and it HURTS to stand out and fly.
Nice! Loving it! Great flying Brian! You make it Look so easy! Great Review! Thanks Camera Crew!
Thanks for watching! This plane is a GREAT flying plane, so it makes me look good!
Been waiting so long for this plane I hope it’s fast love your content keep it up
Thanks! This plane would be crazy on 4S, but haven't tried it yet.
Camera crew... you, just amaze me every time you come up with one of these ridiculous technical answers that I didn't ask you for.
🤣😂🤣😂
She does the same thing when I make her guess the answer to some weird technical question about scales (for my day job) and she knows better than my boss, or bosses boss - LOL - it's totally hilarious!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I can see why she is a keeper, and would make a great BFF, lucky dawg you!! Not sure if you try and make people laugh, but I sure do when I watch your videos. Thanks for sharing Brian and the all important, knowledge checking, camera crew!
Awesome plane and review! Thank you!
Thanks!
Another great video, ty both!
Thank you John! Glad you enjoyed it ;)
I like mine too, it's well behaved, even without gyro assist. I flew mine without gyro initially, until the plane went upside down once during a hand launch, and crashed pretty hard. Nothing glue couldn't fix, but after that I did install a gyro, just to help with launching and landings. It's also very efficient and the EDF isn't too loud either.
I've been hearing that on 4S, you can really get her flying easier...wonder if that would be the ticket for those who would rather not use a gyro?
Man that looks awesome 👌 and sounds cool too
Real quality video, I've had a few failed hand launches with Vector using 2200 3S.
I too ;) BAE Hawk - LOL (I assume you saw the video???)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hi Brian, yes I've watch your BAE videos. I thought you went to the 2200 4S, but I'v used only the 3S 2200, which I have learnt need to be place well back for CofG. I've broken the battery bay/nose off 4 times so far, I've become quite an expert with glue :). I bought 2 more Vipers (still in boxes) until my first Viper is totally beyond repair and I've learnt how to launch properly. I'm in Australia and my Vipers come from Hong Kong with Vector's pre-installed. I hope Arrows appreciate how much quality work you do for them. You are #1 in the world on quality set-up, flying and technical advice!!!
Camera crew does a great job good team
Thanks, she really does!
I like the sound of the jet.
Me too.
A terrific model, love the bits out of my one....4S + rudder and ESC changed to a 40A one
You're cheating on me TOO?!
@@TakeItRC ???
I want to fly her on 4S too ;)
Camera settings looks spot on. No block pixel look at all now.
NICE! Our next video took 4 days to upload at 136 GB....we might need to figure out a better approach - LOL.
Uploading takes forever. If we had Green Light internet in my neighborhood it cut some of my uploads to 1/3 the time. I have a few really long art videos that didn’t even take that long. If you are uploading by the phone I would suggest copying the file to a PC that is hardwired to the Modem.
In the immortal words of John McClane "Welcome to the party pal!" this little plane has been everyone's 1st EDF for the last year, and the reason Arrows embraced the 50mm EDF line.
4S really wakes it up, and it launches right out of your hand instead of nearly falling to the ground on a strong throw. It makes it easier for those of us with old arms 😀
Are you cheating on me?!
I can't wait to get this one in the air on 4S, it's gonna be a rocket ship!
Yes, I have it on 4S and it’s a Rocket!!! Love this little plane, flies so smooth! I added a rudder as well.
@@planes4dayz815 wich esc do you use ? The stock?
@@Matze14111989 no I upgraded to a 40 amp esc, don’t remember which kind
Arrows family all fly really well, not too big not too small. just the right size for the prize.
yes!
Got the nx8 on the way it will be my first computer radio. Now I can save sum money on bnf thanks for the advice man
Good for you Shane! Glad you got the NX8!!!
Arrows has a line of winners to choose from. I'm still waiting for the F86 to be released. Great looking 4K video bt the camera crew. The Super close passes would be cool to see from a behind the scenes angle.
Totally Agree Mike. Arrows has some GREAT choices. I love that they're basically ALL good...but I kinda "get around" and I like most of them ;) LOL
Nice plans I like to c ya fling in the snow looks the same here up in vt
The snow is fun for about 10 minutes ;)
nice jet Brian
Sure is - Love this little beauty!
I have it also, fly it on 3S 2200mAh with the battery all the way backward. Battery and receiver next to each other. It's nose heavy otherwise. I like it very much. 😎
I think we'll fly on 4S 2200mah next ;) Can't wait!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Can't wait for your video 😂 Curious about your flight time...
Been waiting on this review for a couple years it seems haha. So stoked! Really hoping you do the twin 64 MiG!
Yeah, I want to see him review every older Arrows plane. Its good to see him receive the legacy models. Hopefully the Warbirds soon.
Glad we could finally get this one done! GREAT PLANE!
For the price these are amazing little jets. I love mine, I cut in a rudder on mine. it added a little weight but on 4s you can't feel it. the only thing its missing is lights.
Did you do a 3.5g rudder servo? 9G up front and push rod?
@@BrianPhillipsRC 9g and push rod. its tight but worth it.
Nice video my friend!✈️
thanks!
Awesome Flight.
Just like Our addiction to flaps, gotta mod a rudder on it too.
Ripping Mate, Your Beautiful Mrs an You are at the top of the Pyramid.
Thanks Jono! This plane needs inboard flaps for SLOOOOOW flight, but it deserves a rudder too. I get no gear, but I miss the rudder.
Great Jet Its a great flying machine... It really does not need Safe or AS3X - I find it perfectly stable on its own using an AR410 - it really is easy to launch and easy to fly - I love it. flaps ? (its your aircraft and you do what you like)☺ - it flys nice and slooooow without them, and as for landing - its a glider....!!!.
Flaps are fun, and everyone always talks about adding them on these planes, but nobody ever shares HOW to do it...so, we did. I agree, in hindsight, it was a non-essential addition. In FACT, I think the spilerons would be cooler, for higher speed flying...3-5 degrees up and you'd slip even faster, with less drag from the wings ;)
Hi Brian. I am sure you know the best way to not chop your hand off is to set the failsafe mode in forward programming. Then the throttle will also be set to off when battery is disconnetecd :)
Failsafe is almost always on by default
Sweet plane. I fly mine on 4s 1300. The plane tracks so well, you will love it. The Vertical with the 4s is to the moon, move over Elon Musk! A great video you guys. Nobody explains the build and radio set up options better, and I watch a number of reviewers. Again, great job!
Brian, We fly upside down because it's a skill, not an option. Just like you add flaperons to planes that don't need them, flying circles and just buzzing around gets old fast.
True, it is a skill for sure. I think my reluctance to fly upside-down is just the look of the plane upside down. In the right maneuver, it's cool, but I'm into the scale appearance of planes, and while 3D planes still get me excited, I want it to look "real" as possible ;)
@BrianPhillipsRC I get what your saying 100% but flying a high wing type airplane like the Draco inverted 2 feet off the deck is kinda like living on edge. Keep doing what you do my friend love your content.
Now you gotta do the Arrows MiG-29
We have one in line, then hoping to do that too ;)
Fantastic price for a EDF....sweet!
Agreed! very good!!!
Hey Brian thanks for the reply, Horizon will reprogram the radio for me if I send it to them which I will for sure.
Sounds good! Glad they're going to help you fix this issue!
Wow for $139 that's an amazing flying jet. I'll probably pick one up.
I scored Mine without the Vortex for US$89 on Amazon.
Arrived in two days.
The RC Gods must love Me Destroying toys?
Beauty Jesse!
It is a great plane, but also, keep in mind, PNP so you'll have some cash tied up in the rx still...to be fair.
@@BrianPhillipsRC very true but I planned ahead and crashed a few BNF planes so I have a couple AR637TAs laying around haha 😂
The newer ones defo come with a flight stabaliser btw.. but unless you are a beginner it doesn't really need one tbh.
I agree for once...this plane is SOLID, even without.
Brian...you and your Camera Expert.....are the wind beneath my wings.................................on to my Chariot of the Gods ....up up and away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! uhh....sorry got carried away again silly me. Thanks for video
LOL - Nice song - Whitney Huston would be so proud ;)
Would be cool if Arrows added some umx type of planes
They have a couple, but I think UMX planes, in general are super fun!
It really is an outstanding little plane, extremely versatile little edf that with a little TM care, is even 4s capable.
I've also see someone succesfully fly a pan/tilt dji fpv setup on one.
Wonder what it is about that airframe that makes it so great and with no bad habits?
I agree - LOVE the way the Vipers fly, until you get BIT by a low pass at JUST a fraction of a MPH too slow - LOL
You talking about Pete from banana-hobby.. Pete is the man ! He is an awesome pilot ! He’s no longer with banana hobby .. he flys at our field 👍🏻👍🏻 in south El Monte Ca ...
Pete is a super skilled pilot, WAY beyond my skills, no doubt...but still don't have a great appreciation for upside-down flying...even though it's a valuable skill we should all work to have in our tool bag.
Hi Brian and camera crew, now that you are in love with Arrows I hope you are going to do their glider, the SZD 54 ???????
Love your stuff - keep going.
We have had very good luck with Arrows brand, and they have some GREAT stuff!
As for the glider, I don't know yet on that, and the Mig, the other plane everyone keeps asking about. We'll be coming with some NEW stuff soon too ;)
This may some day be my first jet.
It is good!
I have a Radiomaster TX16S OpenTX. Would I need a receiver on it since it is a multi protocol transmitter?
Very good video! U should try Multiplex models, like the “Lentus Thermik” (3 m glider)😍! I have one and I’m very happy of it!
I want that one BAD, but buy are they pricey to ship here. If you know of a distributor in the US, please do recommend them, and we can reach out to get the ball rolling.
NIIIICE 🔥👍✌️
I agree ;)
Hi Brian, isn’t the stand adjustable? In the build section of the video, you mentioned that the plane was a little small for the stand. Don’t the ends of the stand slide along those pipes at the bottom to adjust for different sized planes?
Yes, but it's real hard to adjust, to the point of almost arguably NOT adjustable. I believe you could probably put some talc on it to make it slide better, but I've just never bothered.
Great Flying, great EDF....but one but and its a big but, where's the barn swallow?? will he be back for spring!?
Barn Swallows will be back, and we will be ready for them in the spring!!!
Seems like a good entry into edfs, and somewhat cheap too on 3s. 6s batteries are not cheap, especially with a charger. Nice to see something outside the eflite brand! They have nice stuff but not a huge selection compared to some other brands. Imo, I'm really picky tho..
This plane is great. It's solid. I'd highly recommend it.
P.S. We do tons of planes, not all of them are Horizon Hobby products, but we do prefer Spektrum Tx/Rx, since that's what I started with and have become very accustomed with. Not sure if you've seen much of our older content, but we have thousands of videos, and hundreds of planes, heli's, and other aircraft. Horizon is a big part of what we cover, since it's such a huge part of the market share, but we always have our eyes opened for new stuff ;)
@BrianPhillipsRC I know you do iv watched soo many of them. Just seemed like a lot of eflite recently, which is cool for sure but just nice to have some verity. I also tend to prefer spektrum, can't deny they make good stuff. As well as eflite. Maybe you and the guy from motion rc could get together for some future content. Looks like they have some cool stuff, and a lot of it!
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thanks!
Holly shit u can fly man
Thanks Shane ;)
Camera crew & Brian, I would like to thank you both for great reviews and exceptional videos of all the RC habits we have. Based on hours of video research, again I have fell victim to another purchase, Arrows ViperJet 50mm. Is there an RC Anonymous link? Hobbyzone commission coming your way$ love your channel.
You mean these...
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Thanks Jeff! We always appreciate your support - you will LOVE this plane.
Any tips Brian. I am having serious hand launch issues. Seems like everytime I launch the aircraft tips to one side and drops nose first. If I do get it to take off level, it flies for like 20 ft and then even under full throttle falls to the ground. I have tried also playing with elevators while taking off. Trying to go full elevator lift or slow partial. Ive tried messing with taking off in fast rate vs slow rate at like 80/20. Still I can't get my viper to launch. Its crashed now about 6 times with me having to hot glue it back together. My banana hobby 50mm jets...same issue. All aircraft running 3S. Any information kindly appreciated. Thanks man.
Amazing video, can you please tell me the take-off weight, I will try this viper with 6S battery
I can't sorry. 6S with the right ESC and motor would be fine, but this thing is GREAT on 4S and does it STOCK ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you, but I was asking about your viper weight, hope we didnt misunderstand
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Amazing, I'm trying to find a place for me to fly because I just got into the hobby and I have a trainer but it doesn't really have what I want😂.
Keep searching ;)
Got a little snow huh. Lol. I’ve been LOVING the night timber on floats with the snow. I’ve got about 10 flights in already. I’m already looking at my next plane. Lol. I’m thinking umx a10 thunderbolt. Yes I’ve seen your vid in it a few times lol. This would be a contender if it had a rudder. Would you object to that purchase? Is there better value for something like the umx a10. The one I get after that would be the big a10. I think they are both sick planes and well priced. I’ve heard the umx foam isn’t the prettiest tho.
Big A-10 is a better value. The UMX will require an expensive battery, and not that this is a problem, but I wouldn't invest in that size class now. I'd get the big A-10 - great value, great plane, definitely MORE money, but it's better money spent. Trust me on that...the UMX is fun, but I don't find myself tripping over planes to get it out.
@@BrianPhillipsRC haha. Tripping over planes to get it out. Well. If you were to also plan on getting the larger one but wanted something like it in smaller class and already had a ton of 850 edit:50c batteries (I have tons of helis) would you still get it? Lol. I am DEFINITELY getting the 64mm. I like the 70mm livery better but I think the 64 has higher power to drag ratio.
Just a quick question , I have an older DX7 that the battery died while I was programming it and now locked out with (backup error) on the screen. Any ideas on this?
I don't know for sure. Sorry. Might need to hit up Spektrum tech support???
I did a video on clearing a code on my DX18...might want to look that up quick, but different and random problem.
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We just got 2 feet of snow
WOW! That's a LOT of snow ;)
So I think I want my first EDF to crash. Would you recommend the BAE Hawk 50mm or the Viper? I will be using the 3S battery to start with and landing/crashing it on grass.
LOL - Hawk or this...Hawk comes with Vector, so you can save a few bucks on the Rx ;)
Do you need a certain remote, thinking of buying this but don’t have a lot of money for a remote, have any cheap recommendations that will work? Thanks
This is a PNP (Plug and Play) so you'll need to have a transmitter and receiver, so if you're just starting out, this would be a REAL expensive plane, but most don't start with this type of plane. If you started with one of these, you could tear out the radio system when you're done using it to save some cash, but you won't want too do this once you get hooked ;)
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Mine has a very squeaky and bad sound with power, check motor and fan it looked good. Any idea why?
Sounds like you might have a bad motor bearing??? If it flys, I'd call and ask Hobbyzone, and see what they say. Sorry about the problem!
I'm #1? Nice Flyin Lil UMX Viper... And I'm Really Grumpy This Morning, It's Only In The Mid Teens & We Got Over A Inch Of F#@Kin Snow, Plus My Propane Ran Out Last Night! It Was 75* 2 Days Ago w/Rain Yesterday Evening, Then Temps Dropped? 🥶🤬
Better get those Raccoons up in that joint and warm up ;)
So I just flew my first plane and crashed it and a small piece of foam broke off, what happened on your first rc flight?
My first flight ever Habu Sts , left wing clipped a basketball pole, fuselage had to be replaced haha
I can't remember...I crashed thousands of times...some totally destroyed the plane, while other times, there was minor damage. Get used to fixing planes. It's part of the hobby, but it will make you a better pilot, going through these tough times. Don't let it get you down too much. You will crash...we all pretty much crash from time to time, but you can't let that stop you.
Fix it, fly it, crash it, repeat. The cycle gets better after a few years...lots less fixing, and more flying ;)
What is the best beginner edf jet?
this is it.
If you want a belly lander, this is a possible choice. Many 50mm EDF's out there, but this is a great one! I honestly think that if a guy was new to flying EDF's, might lean toward the F15 from Eflite, since it has fixed gear...
@@BrianPhillipsRCthank you!
Can I fly this in the same flying space as the umx citation?
If you want to, sure. I need a runway for the Cessna Citation UMX, but with this Viper, there's no need for the runway.
your bestie over on the Airplane aflac insurance sellin rcSaylors just took that 90mm EDF and cornholed it at full throttle, then he se up a full throttle low pass and he was - 1 entire flap surface and no control arm from the servo to the aleron . and smacked the asfalt like he was getting tensile strength core sample lol. i still dont know which one of them carries the X or Y chromosome. its hard to differentiate
Amazing comment...simply amazing ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC we gottem lol
Brian, i was wondering if with all the planes you have, do you ever sell any of them. If so, do you have any for sale at this time? I would be interested possibly. Thanks a dedicated follower!!!
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Can you tell me how to add flaps to that arrows jet. I mean how can you add flaps to a three channel jet? I know I'm asking a lot but can you please explain it to me. 🤨
Flapperons, or Flaps. We DID flapperons on this plane.
Dump the gyro as it’s not needed with this plane( and it’s less weight), and cut the winglets off for better aerodynamics. 👍🏼
I think this plane could fly pretty stable without, but I still like it.
Est ce que le contrôleur est fourni avec l’avion
Not this one. This is a PNP (Plug and Play), meaning you must provide your Transmitter, Receiver, and Battery. We have included links for you to follow, if you wish, and you can get all these items for yourself.
Good luck! Thanks for being here with us!
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Pas celui-ci. Il s'agit d'un PNP (Plug and Play), ce qui signifie que vous devez fournir votre émetteur, votre récepteur et votre batterie. Nous avons inclus des liens à suivre, si vous le souhaitez, et vous pouvez obtenir tous ces éléments par vous-même.
Bonne chance! Merci d'être ici avec nous!
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Est ce que l’avion est vendu avec la radiocomande et la baterie ? Ou c’est juste l’avion seul ???
Just the plane. You provide battery and radio system. The plane does have the EDF, Motor, ESC, and Servos.
Do I need a new esc when i use a 4S Lipo
I don't know yet...some people claim to need more current, but in reality, I doubt you'll have more current, but more voltage, and less current ;)
I will put mine on the alter, for all of RC and report results - if she dies, then she will die for all...then you can decide.
We're planning on putting in a 4S 2200 like we did on the other 50mm EDF's from Arrows with no issue ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC haha 😆I am very excited about the result. Thank you Brian
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It seems like some folks want reviews for stuff that they have no intention of purchasing. Man I wish that I wasn't one of them. I'm sorry Ice. I don't havebto get out and do it anymore. I just watch you and pretend that it's mee. The lazy man's new rc hobby. We just watch you and tell everyone that it was us doing it. 🤣😜😁🤗
LOL - Nice! My friend Esteban says the same thing, but I want him to just practice a bit more, and get caught up so we can make some EPIC Top Gun 2 sequences, since they will never release the real thing ;) LOL!
@@BrianPhillipsRC No kidding man. Well I'd like to see some new toys today from you. They do have some nice balsa wood kits that can take a 5 cylinder radial Moki, any thoughts of taking your proctor skills to the nest level and doing one. I'm trying to get my wife to make me this foam board p 40 warhawlk from flight test so I can throw some servos and motor my son got me. They make a cool printed foam board flying tiger that I like. Any thoughts on that.
lovely little plane....
personally i would prefer to have the 90mm viper. but impossible to buy this plane. in europe, all sites are out of stock.
I get it. I hate that you guys have so much trouble getting these planes. It pains me to know that it's so much more expensive and tough... Someday, with enough money and man-power, we could come up with better distribution.
Either way, this would be an amazing stand in. Flies great, and if you throw a rudder in there, it would fly equally as good!
forgot to mention, Arrows planes can handle the abuse better than most foamies
They do seem to do great! We've been real happy with them so far, and very impressed!
If I can fly the umx citation Could I fly this plane?
with SAFE receiver, absolutely
@@musk-eteer9898 what kind of flying space would I need? I fly my citation at my local football with 2 soccer fields next to it. Can I fly this there?
Sure. They're not that far apart, especially as I configured it.
What happened with dynam?
They kept sucking. Sorry, we got tired of beating out heads against the wall for marginal results at best. We KNOW that some RC enthusiasts could make them work, but it's just not worth it, in our situation. If you had hours and hours to redo a lot on a Dynam, you can make them okay...but then they just let you down.
No rudder? No lights? No landing gear? NO WAY......!!!
LOL - Also, a lot less Cash ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I guess it really doesn't matter. Last 2 planes I crashed ended up with no control surfaces or landing gear anyways. Have you ever seen foam explode? Full speed into a concrete light pole? It's awesome. Keep up the great work my friend.
Great video!! Question. My only EDF's are the killing zone combo, F-15 Eagle, and Vampire. I love the F-15 and fly it a ton. I have been thinking about getting the Viper 90 and have decided to go in the opposite price direction ( I think flying a $600 plane that has a tip stall tendency at low speed will give me too much anxiety at this stage of my progression in the hobby) and I want to get one of the 3 Arrows 50mm (Viper, Hawk, T-33). My question is which of the 3 do you suggest? I want something that will give a different flight experience than the F-15.
I have the BAE Hawk, it flies pretty much same as the Viper. The Hawk though has better scale looks, gyro included and most of all the Bright Red Color makes it easy for visibility and orientation specially for these small zippy planes ( at least for my middle-aged myopic eyes).
Go for the Hawk or the Viper, I've seen quite a few videos where the T33 was really problematic in getting it to fly well and also had tip stall tendancies.
I dont own the Hawk but judging from YT videos the Viper, although a tad slower, possibly looks to the most stable of these 3? Maybe slightly lower wing loading? It would be nice to hear from people who own both models if that is indeed the case.
@@rodinvillarosa2924 How would you compare the flight characteristics of both?
Does the Viper have a slightly lower wing loading?
@@paulhope3401 Totally agree about the T-33 it really looks squirrely. Earlier I had my eye on the Viper and almost pulled the trigger on it, but later on the BAE Hawk came out and its scale looks won me over, and judging from YT videos and general similarities of the airframe you cant really go wrong with either. It really comes down to personal preference.
@@rodinvillarosa2924 Yeah, the T33 looks to be a bit of a liability and to be avoided.
Hawk flies great. really nice plane. Quite similar to the Viper in a lot of respects but with a shorter wingspan and no winglets so in theory, probably a higher wing loaded, slightly faster model?. certainly looks a bit faster in the videos but could just appear that way with it being slightly smaller.
Are you trying to tell us that your plane stand is not adjustable for shorter planes or you just did not feel like adjusting it.
It is supposed to be, but the foam is way too hard to adjust without some lube ;)
This isn't the first time snow in the yard.... Have you thought about putting skis on a plane... should be interesting
I've thought about a lot of stuff that we don't end up having time to film. Sorry Bill!
?????????????? WHY! don't just adjust the plane stand "shorter" for this one or longer for the different plane sizes you are working on ??
It's not a matter of left or right, it's only forward or back, to and fro, big or little! LOL
It is very hard to adjust in and out. the foam is sooooooooo stuck on those rods. I mentioned this before, but suspect you didn't catch that video.
@@BrianPhillipsRC BUTTER LOL,
Or how about a Silicon Lub If it doesn't work you could use it for other things? If not Contact your benefactor and tell him this one is defective and could he send you one with the stands further apart ;-)