Arrows RC 50mm Viper Shakedown Is This the Best Hand Launcher Jet?
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2020
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Kudos to you, and we can't forget Bobby K. and Captain Mike!
Pilot Ryan, what an inspiration you are. I wager that I'm almost old enough to be your dad and when I was a kid, RC hobbies cost a fortune. I dabbled with some "retired" aircraft purchased from a neighbor who was an expert pattern flyer, but in 1974 a 14 year old kid couldn't afford $400 4 channel transmitters an 80 dollar receivers. Not when wages were $2.50/HR., so I went with model rockets instead.
The EDF bug bit me really hard when I saw your review on the EFlight F-15 ( own one now), then you and Nathan Saylor talked me into buying an Arrows Marlin. Blessings on both of you. Now the addiction is complete, if still in its infancy, but symptoms diverge. Easy flying warbirds? Enter Flight Test. Now we're building a Master Series F4U Corsair. Life is good. But then you had to go and dangle the Arrows 50mm Viper in front of me. Shame on you. Here I sit, with a brand new Viper all set up with the Admiral Rx600sp and Admiral 3S 2200 35c packs. Thank you for your thoughtful, entertaining and informative flight reviews and live streaming vids. You've brought back the kid in me and re-introduced me to a much more affordable and diverse hobby than I could have imagined. Keep on keepin' on!
I upped the esc to a 35amp Mantis esc and run a 1600mAh 4S 70C battery in my Viper. Using an on-board GPS I was able to squeeze in I hit 96mph with mine. Once you run it on a 4S you won't bother with a 3S battery anymore. With a 4S it will pull right out of your hand on launch. Have flown mine numerous times going full throttle and have had no.problems with the motor or esc handling the 4S battery.
Definitely seemed faster on the second flight.
Had my maiden with the viper yesterday. It´s so easy to fly and makes so much fun. My first edf btw. Greets from Germany !
I like the sound... most small fan models put out a horrible high pitch sound that will run you out of the local park. Good job guys 👍
Definitely a park Flier EDF that you can just keep in your car for those days when you get off work and just wanna fly a little bit 🔥🙌🏾 I have the E-flite Viper and I'm definitely going to add this one to my hangar
I get off work and want to put 4 packs through anything hahah. Im always running out of daylight. It's addictive!
Ryan, no doubt, slick line landing!! You created inspiration for yet another RC plane competition type event! Like with R/C STOL planes!! The new challenge is landing EDF's on the line for as long as possible (points per second) and who comes closest to whatever target is on the runway (duct tape circle target maybe...) I can totally see it! I think 'WE' out here in "YT Viewerland" would dig at least one episode where you and Bobby gave that a shot! Best regards brother, Dave
I bought 2 Vipers and an extra fuse. I know you’re busy, but when you find the time could you do a “How to” video on adding a workable rudder and how to crave out the servo pocket? (Hence my ordering the extra fuse and servo for the Viper) I bet there’s a bunch of guys that watch you, Chris at RC GEEK, Brian Phillips and the Boozers who, like me say- “I can add a servo to a vertical stab... nothing to it.”.... and fail.
On the slo-mo it sounded just like the Millennium Falcon when the hyper drive won’t work. Who needs Starbucks when you got Peet’s
That is a sick little bird. Definitely going on my wish list. Super fun video guys.
Never fails. The Old Man's want list changes every time I watch your videos. Ryan great flying and Bobby K awesome video. Love you guys. ✈😎💗💗
Just did the maiden on mine with a 2200 as you said, dialled In 40% expo with full rates for the second flight and this thing rips.. you got me hooked bro 👍 I’m all EDF now 🤣
Welcome to the darkside
If only Horizon or Freewing could make their sub 70mm EDFs sound this good!!!
Freewing did a range of 64mm EDF jets that sound great probably a bit nicer than this,I have this arrows viper and a lippish p15 64mm EDF
Maiden mine today. My first EDF, great plane!!
Awesome just ordered one,I saw another user get over 5 mins out of a 1500mah pack I thought your 2200mahs would have gone a lot further now I’m torn between getting 2200 or smaller packs,Great video and flight👍🏻
Sounds awesome for its size!
Don't forget the rolling loops. I hear they are the ticket. Beautiful demo!
Nice little plane mate. Landing on centre line was crazy.
Best touch and go I've ever seen! Hahaha. This is getting bought for sure! Nice flight Pilot Ryan!
I waited as long as I could for Ryan, or Wes, or Dave, or Jeff to do it, but so far no one has-
I’ve added a workable rudder. (Same positioning as the Marlin)
That wasn’t enough- I added a FMS kv5400 motor and a 40 amp ESC.
This should be a blast!
Touch and go was sick! I dont normally go small but that little bird makes me think about it!
Wow that touch and go was sweet!!
Arrow's stuff is so cool. Fun video
RYAN...BOBBY...Cool little EDF...These are going to go quick! Oh yeah. 👍👍
Hahahahaha 😂😂😂 that touch and go was awesome 👏 looks like a fantastic bird
Awesome flyer!
shout out the camera man
*Increase expo 10-15% depending on caffeine level* . .That'll leave skidmarks.. what a nice flyer..longitudinally stabilizing slightly swept wing but not crazy raked..looks and flies geat.. 50mm? Sounds that nice?! Wow.. no wonder you were so excited ya forgot the timer & expected a rudder!
Hi guys I've just got one of these as my first edf and a spektrum dx6e and AR620 receiver. Is there any setting I should have it on to make things easier as this is new to me. Thanks
Nice flying Ryan, she IS a sweetheart. Good job on the cam Bobby K.
I just bought a 50mm Arrows Viper and have yet to fly it. Anticipating great fun with this little jet! Thanks for all your great flight reviews and advice. I have a question. When watching other flight videos ( the sub-titled Chinese vids), I noticed that at least twice there was stated in the sub-titles that they were flying on 4s 1500mAh batteries. Is this exclusive of models released in Asia, or will the North American version support 14.8 V as well? What a little speedster this plane would be!!
I'd like to do an overhand with my left or an underhand cuz I like to hold onto the elevator stick as my strap holds on to the to the radio
damnnnn man.. it has a real nice thrusty sound..awesome whoosh to it.
Hey whats up Pilot Ryan .I picked up one of these through your link..trying to find the right batteries for it and still have room for my reciever..nice little jet
Cool thanks Hector. We used 2200 3s Smart packs but I’m sure that anything between 1300 and 2200 will be fine
Very very awesome flights, and looks like a awesome lil jet, How fast would you guess its going? 60-70mph? I really want a EDF but there all so slow compared to my prop plane F27 modified until you go 6s and i just don't wanna go that big. 5min flight on a 2200 3s is also killer deal.. if you do the Rudder mod be sure to do a video when you do it.
great video. if you had to pick one of the 4 arrows 50mm edf , which one would be your pick?
You have seen road sweepers, but have you heard of a runway sweeper?? Looks like a cool little jet!
It sounds amazing
I first thought the 50mm Power Plant was Change Sun. Then looking up the specs on the Motor, it looked like it was close to be a PowerFun EDF, then finally the specs were right on the money with the a few 50mm EDFs made by FMS .
Nice bounce and go
Awesome man
OMG, That was great! I was laughing right along with you!!!
Dude I’ve watched this video so many times now I had to order one 😎👍
I'm looking for my 1st EDF jet. Got a budget warbird already. Prefer hand launch. Is this the best option? Looks solid. Anyone got other options to consider?
This is a good choice
Cool!
Any idea how it compares in speed wise to the Eflite 64mm F15 or the 64mm F16? The F15 and F16 are heavier and bigger and uses 4s. You mention it is not a rocket so was curious. Also, do you think it will do well on smooth asphalt parking lots? Thanks
"On the line!" ...Love it. I may have to get one of those... through your link of coarse. Another great video guys. Thanks for all you do.
sick touch and go and landing "on the line" lol
This is a Nice one 👍👌
Arrows says their Marlin files 80-85 MPH in calm air level flight. Do they comment on the top speed of the 50mm Viper in any of their promotional materia
Just curious, is this jet similar to flying the e flight thunderbirds 70mm edf?
I think it's even better at touch n goes than the Carbon Z Cessna
I have alot of 3s batt, so this is probably gonna be my first edf, anyone know any other edfs that run on 3s 2200?
fan sounds awesome...like a much larger 70mm... viper is a very good first edf jet...
You’re right. Looking forward to their other hand launch jets
On the line!
Monday was the Best Day Ever (SpongeBob reference) I’ve ever had maidening two planes. Might have been that I finally got my fine motor, balance and vision back after a month Covid-19. This little jet was a blast to fly. I threw in an Admiral gyro/stability receiver, “I” button as a panic switch. Never used it. Other than the 1st lap I was in 70/30 rates with a Roaring Top1800 3s 70c. I’m not sure if I ever had to trim it out. (3 batteries worth, 2200 3s Venom’s for the 2nd and 3rd flight)
There’s really nothing you can’t do with this jet, rock solid stable.
Perfect EDF if you were scared to try a jet. I was surprised how quick it turned, but never had it out of control, just slowly recorrected and it leveled out. I felt like it was designed to self correct. Never a bad moment with it in the air. Throw in the price, this jet is a no brainer. Perfect first jet, perfect jet for a smaller field, perfect jet to get your confidence up to take the next step up in bigger EDF’s.
Any idea what is the 4th servo wire on the ESC?? I bought this plane after watching your video. 👍👍
Nobody knows lol. We are all flying it not hooked up
*new Pilot Ryan side-job, rudderless RC jet runway striping!
"On The Line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
What do you think the top speed of this is ?
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Crazy flying. Lol
What rates did you have it on just out of the book
Use to have the banana hobby crap viper twitchy servos but flew ok till servos capped out. This looks sweeeet will throw 4s system baby
Hobby Zone here I come 😀
Sweet. My link is in the description, thanks
Although I've never flown a EDF yet. The little thing looks like fun. Very quick for a 50mm. She's a Bank n Yank Baby! Fun to watch it zip around. Is there room for a rudder servo? I'd have one, cause I love to tinker, but $40 more gets you a Marlin with flapps n rudder. Great video, stay safe. AirHammer out!!
Rudder's nice but didn't you see how slow she could fly? I think flaps would just weigh it down too much and wouldn't be too good for the belly landings.
@@toolbaggers hello😀 I agree it can fly slowly and a rudder would help it maintain that slow flight in a turn. It would also allow it to knife edge and increase areobatics. In Ryan's maiden flight video, he and Bobby were discussing a rudder for this jet. I would NOT install flapps on a belly lander. A rudder would cost about $20. A Marlin(after rudder install on 50mm Viper) is $20 more and has it all plus 4s power. Be safe and fly well Gypsy.
I JUST got one from Hobby Zone and put a CNHL 2200mah 3s 50c almost all the way back and launched it overhand at full throttle with a nice up throw like you did and it wouldnt even fly. It came right down like it just didnt have enough juice and the nose broke off. Tried again after fixing it and it still didnt have enough power to fly and broke again. Does this happen often? Im not sure what the issue is. Does the battery need a super high c-rating?? I used a 50c. Does it need 100c or higher????? Im so confused as to why it was so bad and so weak to the point where it wouldnt even fly. 😕Super upset because yours took off like a champ yet mine didnt have any power to even fly. The only amount it flew was from my throw. I wonder how often they have faulty motors or esc?? The sad thing is that I can guarantee that Hobby Zone wont help me out. Any thoughts?
I know it is a CHEAP edf for most but for me $150 is not cheap. 😢
Was it too tail heavy?
@@PilotRyanMedia no it didnt seem to be tail heavy at all and balanced perfectly at the websites 70mm cg. It went up with the throw and didnt have the power and nose dived right back down straight into the ground. I even use almost full up elevator. I did a pre check to make sure everything was programmed to move the correct way and checked afterwards and all control surfaces were set up right. It makes no sense brother. It stinks because even though its one of the most inexpensive edf jets I cant afford another one right now. And MAN, you really made this thing look like a ton if fun lol. It flew so perfectly for you. What 2200mah 3s battery did you use??
@@PhillyPyroKev probably Spektrum smart battery
I'm using a 2200pack slid back as far as possible but plane still nose heavy. Need some help, has anyone felt need to add tail weight?
What is the weight of the 2200 packs?😊 30c?
Reminds me of the Marlin? 😊
Dumb question for ya, Ryan. What is the yellow single wire coming from the throttle servo wires? What am I supposed to do with that. Also, what battery do you recommend? 2200 3S 30C?
Nobody knows. I just left it unplugged
1600-2200 is probably the sweet range. We flew on 2200 3s rcjetwerx and smart batteries
Pilot Ryan Media 😂
i had this plane made by banana hobby...was great ..then something went wrong ...but it was amazing for many flights.
Hi guys, I haveHi guys, I have a big question!
I can buy the Marlin or Viper in Europe at the same price. Which one do you decide ?.
Marlin has flaps and landing gear.
Pilot Ryan Media Thanks for your prompt response. Yes of course this is clear, and also ruder. But when it comes to flight, speed, and sensations ... which one do you prefer?
That’s tough. It depends on if you want a rudder or not. Or hear and flaps. Both fly great. The viper is a good time and it’s 3s Marlin is 4s. I like having a rudder
Is this Viper a good plane as a first EDF ?
I’d say yes depending on your experience and where you want to go
@@PilotRyanMedia I've been flying for 6 years now and I think I'm quite experienced.
I'm not a stunt pilot, just flying around. Sometimes a loop or a roll or inverted, but that's about it
So i'm going to give it a try, thanks for your advice 😁👍
@@PilotRyanMedia Almost forgot 😊
Good videos by the way. i love to watch them. keep going !
Greetings from the netherlands 👍
Cool
I tried flying it with a 2200 3s with a flysky receiver and it had no power whatsoever. I launched it and it immediately nose dived and broke in half. idk what I'm doing wrong. it just flies awful for me.
Don't be offended by anything here...I have no way of knowing what your level of experience is. What type of battery? C Rating? Old or new? Battery might be your issue. I would try a lighter battery as they recommend a 1300 and some older 2200's are quite heavy. I don't have one of these yet, but most folks I see launch pretty much full throttle. Don't try a hard climb before it has some airspeed. Don't try launching at too steep of an up angle. If you launch and get in the elevator hard, it will probably stall and nose down. I had a similar experience when I bought my pusher prop Shark plane. Nosed it in about three times and broke in a few places until I got the hang of hand launching with the help of a friend to show me how to launch it.
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Junk lmao