How to get Full Lossless Dolby Atmos for Sonos Arc & Sonos Beam Gen 2
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
- OREI eARC 4K 60Hz Audio Extractor Converter 3x1 Soundbar 18G HDMI 2.0 ARC Support - HDCP 2.2 - Dolby Atmos Digital/DTS Passthrough CEC, HDR, Dolby Vision HDR10 Support (HDA-935)
Not the same as normal HDMI splitter. HDMI eARC and ARC carries sound through a seperate channel, not the regular channel over HDMI. So a soundbar that takes in sound via an eARC or ARC channel is only going to accept sound on those channels and not the regular HDMI sound channels.
The OREI eARC switcher is a eARC compatible switcher with 3 input ports. It took 2 years to come to this. I am sure there are other models out there. Maybe get a new TV. In 2-3 years time, when you change a new TV, it is likely to have an eARC port and have Atmos processing capabilities. But note that you will need to have Atmos too. Not just eARC.
In the meantime, does this work?
Yes. Atmos shows up.
What you need to do on your TV. Play around with the setting. Bitstream, not PCM. Pass through selected. Input vs output. PCM, Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital+.
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Recently picked up the Sonos Arc, Gen 3 Sub and Era 300s( sale last week was absolutely killer) however I couldn’t figure out how to get Dolby Atmos on my Hisense 100 U8K and still maintain 4K 120hz on both PS5 and Xbox Series X since the eARC HDMI port which also the 4K 144hz was taken up by the Sonos Arc. That left only 1 other 4K 144hz port open, but I after watching this video I bought a CORSADH 8K@60Hz 4K@120Hz HDMI2.1 Switch 4 in 1 Out with Audio Extractor from amazon that supports full Dolby Atmos and has 4 HDMI inputs now everything works perfectly(ended up connecting the Nintendo switch and IPTV box as well) Thank You Peter, your video was so helpful, I have subscribed!
Finally a good explanation and solution ! Good work Peter
Thanks! Glad that it helped! Actually, more than the OREI HDA-935 than I am talking about, I was trying hard to educate on the connection types too! :)
In addition your insights have been exceptionally helpful . Keep up the excellent presentations. Cheers.
Thanks, will do!
I posted 1 comment before getting to the end where you talk about cable quality.... I always thought that but hearing you reiterate it is great to hear..... a short video on cables would be greatly appreciated.
Hey, I have been meaning to do that for a long time. I know I post the Ugreen cable as an affiliate link but I make like 20 cents from each sale of the cable. It doesn't make me rich so I am not doing it for the money. I really think no one should waste money on expensive cable. And this Ugreen one is like the BEST cable at a really good price. I will do that video soon!
Thanks for watching to the end!
Thank you so much for making this video. I have a beautiful 70" sony tv with ARC and a Sonos arc w/ones as surround and a gen 3 sub. It has been driving me crazy that I am not getting the full atmos from the arc and this should solve my issues. This is a much better solution than buying a new tv. Already ordered and I can't wait to install.
I am glad this is helpful and I am able to recommend something useful!
@@PeterPee Should have waited to try this before getting too excited. It does not give me atmos on my system. Using Xbox Series X (with HDMI cable included with system) and output to the Sonos Arc (also with HDMI cable included with product) the xbox will not recognize a dolby atmos capable output. Tried my apple TV too and that didn't work either. I'm also now hearing occasional crackling in the sound. I never had a crackling issue with my prior setup so I'm not sure what is going on. I will try some of my high quality HDMI cables to confirm that is not the issue, but I'm thinking I got a bad unit. Hopefully I was just unlucky and others are happy with this.
It’s junk tried everything returning new 8k cables helped very little with basic operation but still had to unplug and plug back in to work sony 900 e and x800 blu ray
Great videos, Peter! I've watched your video on the HDFury Arcana as well, and both of these videos are the best I've watched on UA-cam. I'll be checking out your affiliate links for new cables. Thanks so much for the hard work!🙂
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Thanks for providing another option to the other $299 Arcana device. I like this price point better. Appreciate your honest review.
My pleasure! I couldn't bear to buy the HDFury cos of the price. This one also has its quirks la. But at USD129...
@@PeterPee I’ll test it when I get it on Monday and let you know. I’m sure concern how will I then hook up my Philips Hue HDMI sync box with this new box. It will be like a splitter connected to another type of splitter. Last choice will be to ditch the Philips box all together.
@@PeterPee I received the 935 on Monday and tested it out. It does work, however, switching between sources was way too slow for me and in some cases, there was no sound until I rebooted the inputted device. The remote control was glitchy as well. So, I may have to go with the Arcana. But first I will wait until I get my new Apple TV 4k device, which is available on/after 11/4. I am also waiting for the new Amazon Fire TV Cube, which I am expecting by tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. My existing/older Fire TV Cube already produces Dolby Atmos sound, as seen in my Sonos app. I'm hoping the new Apple TV will do the same so I can avoid the Arcana or similar.
I used the cable that came with my arc with 2 sonos 1's and sounds fine to me
Going to order this now! I appreciate the video!
Thanks for your support and showing appreciation!
Hi Peter. I watched couple of videos on this OREI but I must say you have given very elaborative video on the subject.
I have a projector, which has only standard HDMI with no ARC or EARC. I have recently bought HDMI 2.0 cables. Also planning to buy Denon 760H 7.1 Atmos AVR.
My two queries
1. Your video talks about only Soundbar. Whether in the same way it will work with AVR as well. right or there would be some changes to it?
2. Whether need to compulsorily buy HDMI 2.1 for lossless sound or 2.0 will also work just fine?
Please give your guidance..
I have the $40 version of this for my Sonos Beam Gen 2. (I don't believe my port states E-Arc however, just Arc). There is also a version with two hdmi out ports for about $69. Works really well. I didn't think it through when I bought my monitor and realized it only had 2 Hdmi ports so I needed this for more devices anyway. Many of these devices will claim to give you Dolby Atmos, but apparently many of them will not work with Sonos products. Orie does.
This particular OREI one is SPECIFIC for extracting Atmos audio into a ARC/eARC output so that it works with a Sonos soundbar. Tested and it works!
Could you please give us the links to both the other versions you mentioned ($40/$69), I can't find them? thank you
Hi Pete
Got the new hd 935 and it works flawlessly. This is far better than hdfury arcana. Three inputs are really great and works without any tweaks. The only issue is that the sound from 2.1, 5.1 or 7.1 we need to manually select and while selected the tv screen goes off and coming back. But having 3 inputs and sound to sonos arc works without any sync setting changes. Definitely way better than HDfury arcana. Really appreciate you made this video 👍 Now I am out of this buggy hdfury arcana
Thanks for letting me know! Very happy that it works for you! Can you tell me what TV you are using? It does seem that it doesn't work as flawlessly with some brands.
@@PeterPee my TV is Sony KD 65A8F Android TV 2018 model. TV has only ARC Port
Hello sir,with the OREI will you able to get LOSELESS ATMOS if only i use the tv apps like netflix,disney plus and amazon prime video?thank you
Yes, this is perfect for people like me that have 2 different blue ray players and a 4k Xfinity box to connect to TV and soundbar. Now the big question is will the Sonos Arc play multi channel music from my Sony SACD player connected thru this devise?
It's good OREI eARC, it hurts, buy together SONOS ARC the HDFury arcana offer €150 outlet (I recommend it to my friends to buy the sonos sound bar).
Thanks you, Peter
You're welcome!
Thanks Peter, so this isn't needed for TV's that already have eARC correct? I have Sony x95J and Sony A80J, and Samsung 8k TVs
very well explained
Question-
Will i get the output even if i don't connect to a monitor i just want to connect my atmos soundbar with laptop and my soundbar only has earc port so will i be able to get audio on my soundbar. cause recently i have bought some splitters and it says it has earc port but i believe those are only for tv and it doesn't send audio to my soundbar
For surround systems using streaming via Apple TV, will the signal be Dolby Atmos? Or, is dependant on the recording format of TV shows or movies we watch?
Hi Peter, regardless of price which is better between the Arcana Fury and the Orei device. I have the option of buying a used 1.5 year old Arcana Fury for a heavily discounted price so wonder which device to get.
good video , thanks for the advise
Hey Peter! Thanks for the really informative videos on what has been a really confusing topic for me! Let me ask - purely based on performance and ease of setup, (and irrespective of price), which product -would you go with when choosing between the Arcana or the Orei? Thank you!
@peter pee I purchased this unit after your video, Unfortunately mine did not worked well. It does what it suppose to do and I am able to get dolby Atmos out from my nvidia shield but problem is that the EARC output keep freezing. Only way to get back the voice signal is to remove the cable and plug back.
I am using Nvidia shied pro 2022 with Sonos Beam . The HDMI out is to LG TV which have no issue, Issue is with EARC port only.
Do get in touch with OREI. I have written to them with regards to some of the issues faced by other viewers. They will respond.
Great video. Any advice for using this with the Sony HT-A9? I just got the 935 and I cannot get any sound out.
Thank you for the great video. The 935 doesn’t seem to be available. Do you still recommend it or do you have another model that you recommend?
Hi Peter - I have connected HDA-935 to Sonos ARC and samsung TV with Arc port. I got atmos on only one show. UA-cam shows PCM Stereo 2.0. There is quite a bit of audio lag. HDMI output is not that great. Thinking of returning the unit - Any suggestions to adjust the settings? I have selected 7.1 - I have only Arc soundbar - no sub - no surrounds.
Thanks so much for this video. I was wondering how I could get Dolby True HD and DTS HD from my blue-ray collection when the TV only supported ARC. I was going to buy the 934 for $99 then found the 935 discounted for $75 on Amazon. Do i have to upgrade all HDMI cables to 2.1 or would the 2.1 cables for SONOS Arc and Xbox be good enough for I am using the 2.0 HDmi cable on the TV and is hard to feed a new cable through the wall
Hey! Really loved how informative your video is and how you included what you didn't like as well. May I know if there are any other alternatives to this? It's not exactly the most acessible for my country 😅
I have a samsung 65mu6290 that isn't dolby atmos ready. Will this adapter help put out dolby atmos sound on the sonos arc I bought or no?
Hey Peter, got question on 935, I don’t have Apple TV . Only LG brand smart tv support arc . At the screen also say support doby atmos but only inter speaker. This 935 can it be use from my tv arc output to 935. Then from 935 e arc connect directly to my sonos arc. Like this will it support doby Atmos? Direct from my tv to the 935 to Sonos arc. Hopefully you understand what I say
Hello Peter, between the Arcana and the Orei which one do you recommend?
without taking into account the difference in money
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Also I wanted to know best sound bar from my projector when I connect from my projector that has no arc , I have two options in my mind one is sonos beam and other is LG with Wow cast which can transmit wirelessly. Any good recommendations. @peter have you tested LG Wowcast from this Orei ? Do you have any video if so can put one before this Black Friday sale please it will be really helpful for people looking for complete wireless option.
I'm trying to send audio from my bluray player straight to a Sonos beam 2 in order to get DTS through (as my LG TV doesn't support DTS). Will this enable that then?
If the 4ktv I have doesn't show dolby atmos ready and has hdmi arc will the orei switcher help get dolby atmos to the sonos arc or will it not since the tv doesn't show dolby atmos ready? I just want to know before I buy the orei switcher
Hi! Have a question, I want to connect Apple TV 4K to the OREI HDA-935, and then the HDA-935 to an Epson EH-TW7000 (which has no speakers). I plan to use Apple HomePod to get Dolby Atmos, would that be possible? Or do I need to connect the HDA-935 to an audio output? Thanks!
Finally an alternative! HD Fury arcana is like the Philips hue of EARC converters, waaaay too god damn expensive .
Good analogy.
Hello Peter hope your doing good.So with tHE OREI i can get loseless ATMOS?With my tv apps like netflix?or i will be needing a firesticks?or Apple tv?my tv has ARC port only..I hope you can answer my question i want this for my bday if it will really give me a loseless Atmos.Thank you
Does your TV have to support Dolby Surround for this gadget to work?
Thank you so much for your great videos! they help a lot to get an overview of the versatile topics. I have a question about the lossless True-HD Atoms and the ARC/eARC connections. Do I get the True-HD Atmos when I connect a PS5 (Blueray) or MediaPlayer (NVIDIA Shield TV) via HDMI 2.1 to the ARC port of my Philips OLED856 and connect the TV via eARC HDMI 2.1 to the Sonos ARC? I was a bit confused on the bandwidth part (1:56). How does such a large signal fit through a 1Mbps bandwidth. Does the TV needs two eARC ports or is such a box the only solution here?
No. The regular sound from source device travel to the TV using HDMI audio. It doesn't go on HDMI ARC or eARC. The regular HDMI audio bandwidth is much higher. It's only the ARC channel in HDMI that has lower bandwidth. The eARC changes that. On your TV, there is only one eARC port. The rest of the HDMI ports are non ARC ports.
@@PeterPee Thanks for your answer 🙏 I tested it today with a PS5 from a friend. I ran a UHD Blueray with Dolby Atmos True-HD and the Sonos ARC shows that it is playing Dolby Atmos True HD. The Sonos ARC is connected to the eARC port and the PS5 is connected to the 120HZ ARC port. Really happy that it works 😅
Great video! I have a 2016 Samsung SUHD 4K TV with ARC, but my Fire Stick 4K Max only shows Dolby Digital and PCM; no Dolby Atmos or Dolby Digital+ support. I have a newly purchased Sonos Beam Gen 2 (replaced Beam) and the Sub Mini with One SLs for the surrounds. Can you please tell me how to set up the Orei with my Fire Stick, Blu-Ray, and Spectrum cable box to get Atmos and/or DD+? Thanks ahead of time for any assistance you can provide me and your other subscribers, who have similar setups! 😊
Your fire stick into hdmi port 1-3. Your tv hdmi arc output into the tv in hdmi on the hda935 and then the sound bar input take from the soundbar arc output on the hda935.
Peter, quick question please. My Philips 65OLED804/12 tv supports Dolby Atmos, and it has 3 hdmi Arc ports, so no eArc. I can watch movies over my Sonos system in Dolby Atmos, the Sonos app confirms that. But did I understand you explanation well, that it is possible to "upgrade" to eArc with this device, and enjoy Full lossless Dolby Atmos? Thank you in advance for you answer!
It doesn't upgrade the ARC connection itself. It allows you to accept full lossless atmos from EXTERNAL devices and outputs eARC to your Sonos soundbar (Beam Gen 2 or Arc). So if you are using the TV's onboard apps, it doesn't actually allow those full lossless Atmos.
Hello, thanks for this video. I already have a HD fury arcane for my system (Sonos (Arc/Sub/One) + Xbox one X + viewsonic PX747-4k) but I miss a HDMI switch. I know that the HD Fury Diva or the VRROOM are expensive but does the quality of this OREI is the same than those products ? Wich one should I buy ?
For switching purposes, you have to be careful about choosing them cos some of them might not be HDMI 2.0 compliant even if they advertise as such. I can't say for all but this one I have tried and it switches 4K60Hz and passes through atmos. Technically, it will work. The built quality won't be as high as the HDFury Diva though.
Hey Peter,
Love your videos, they are very helpful and interesting!
Question: in our living room we got an arc, 2 ones and the subgen3 connected as surround.
Upstairs in another room also arc, 2 ones and subgen3.
Both seperated in rooms.
How come in one of the rooms the sonos ones keep seperating from the surround but also be placed in living room 2 and living room 3 by itself. Or that the sub wil join the other room and the surround system will use 2 subs in the living room. The room that keeps seperating has been all turned off, powered and reset 1 by one. Problems still going. All happend after the 14.18 patch.. had no problems before. And can't find this anywhere on the internet. I don't know why this happens. Internet everything works absolutely fine. All the sonos speakers that are used as surround keeps seperating from the surround system.
Hmmm... you know, I love problems and troubleshooting. This sounds like an interesting problem but I couldn't re-create this problem to try it out...
Just a question. If the TV only has ARC out but am going to buy SONOS Beam - would this product help upgrade sound to eArc to the Beam? Or is this not possible and ARC is the best I can ask for?
Yes, it will upgrade the sound to eARC from an EXTERNAL device like Apple TV 4K. It will not turn your TV ARC port into an eARC port.
Hi Peter, nice video. Does all inputs support 4k?
Hi Just to clarify : The OREI hda931 performs exactly the same as the OREIhda935 EXCEPT for the former having only one input whilst the latter has three?
Yes, that is correct.
So is the apple 4K tv not producing the same Atmos ?
Great video as always. That said I'm running basically the same set up with a 4k hdmi switch and the hdfury arcanaas my current tv is too old to have an Earc port..... but I'm now on the hunt for a new TV which I will buy in December... any recommendations Pete for what TV? I know all post 2018 samsung TV's no longer support DTS pass through so that won't cut it for me as I am a fan of physical content and have a nice Blu-Ray library.
Hey JB, I am unfortunately not great at recommending TVs. I have been a fan of the LG C series but I am not sure about DTS support. Actually, in your case, you should want to use a soundbar or AVR setup that will support DTSX/DTS-HD. Then you won't have to rely on the TV to supporting it.
@@PeterPee Cheers Pete. I've got the full Sonos set up so was looking to utilise the TV for all devices re: passing audio through.... I could keep the current set up i.e. 4k switch and hd fury arcana, but I'm wanting to get rid of all the extra devices and remotes!!!! A mate of mine works at JB hifi and knows his stuff when it comes to this kit so will follow his lead. I'll top up my google play account and shout you a coffee mate. 👍
I just bought the Sonos Beam Gen 2 and the Sonos Sub mini (based on the glowing reviews here! :) . Ordered the OREI eARC HDA 395 as my Samsung is a 2016 model without EArc. One problem I have is that my Samsung has a One Connect Box with hdmi and Arc ports connected to my tv. Do you foresee any problems connecting and using the OREI to the One Connect Box Arc port? I intend to connect my X Box X and blu ray player as well as Apple TV 4K . Thks!
Oh! Orei is here! Nice! Thanks for the reply!
Oh my god.... Mr Grosse.... I was your student in primary school! ›
Great video as usual, but I have a question Pete. I have a Sonos Playbase with A Sony A9S OLED TV will this device help me get Amos on this setup?
Hey, no, it won't. The playbase won't accept the Atmos. It can't process it.
I have an Onkyo AV receiver with an ARC port but I have recently purchased an LG G3 with an eArc will this give me lossless Dolby atmos through the receiver
nice review. One comment: it should be clear that you can not get lossless atmos from streaming services. So the device might be capable of sending lossless Atmos but only from for instance UHD players.
Hi Peter, a very good and informative video. The video showed a MacbookPro in the connection scenario. Do you know whether I can get Atmos on a Sonos Beam Gen 2 with a MacBook Pro m2 (HDMI 2.1)? Many thanks in advance
What about the HDA-927? Will it do the same albeit not having as much input hdmi? Apple TV 4k > Projector/Beam Gen 2?
I haven't tested the HDA-927 but based on what I am seeing it seems to be a different device. It will take output from the TV through eARC port. Or an external single device. You can't output to a ARC/eARC soundbar.
Hi Peter
Sorry i’m an old guy a little tech challenged…. but i was wondering? is this product a way……OR is there a way to connect my audio mixer up to my Sonos Beam,ones, and mini sub to be able to play my acoustic guitar/&voice and have it come through the Sonos speakers. I wouldn’t expect Dolby Atmos just to be able to utilize the pristine full range w sub to create a pseudo immersive surround experience. Thanks. ( if you don’t know…. it probably can’t be done 😄)
Haha... Thanks for having that much faith in me. Actually, yes, you just need a audio convertor. From your Guitar/audio mixer, output via analog 3.5mm or RCA output, into this audio convertor that will convert it to Optical. And your optical will then go out to the Beam using the optical-HDMI convertor that came with your Beam. But... there is a very very slight lag that you might observe. And if you are using a guitar or mic, you might notice/feel that delay.
I have tcl 6 series. +Apple 4K. Where do the hdmi plug into the hda-935. Thanks
Apple TV goes into hdmi 1-3. TCL tv connect out from the hdmi ARC/eARC port to the tv arc port on the hda935
Hey Peter.
I have an issue with Sky Q lip sync. I have changed the settings in Sky Q to Digital Plus Audio, as of course I'd like to get better sound from my system. I'm running an LG G1 with earc to my Sonos Arc and then have my Sky Q & Xbox Series X connected to the TV. The native TV apps and xbox have no sound issues but the Sky Q is suffering from lip sync issues - the picture is ahead of the audio. I was looking at the HD Fury (too expensive) but would this cure the problem? If so how would this be connected within my setup? Thank you
It will remove the lip sync issue. So the connection will be SkyQ connected to OREI HDA-935 through 1 of 3 HDMI input ports. Then your LG G1 connected to the OREI HDA-935 through the eARC (TV) port on the OREI, then the Sonos ARC connected to the OREI HDA-935 through the eARC (soundbar) port on the OREI.
But you may have issues with the TV's own apps. Not sure if the tradeoff is worth it.
@@PeterPee thanks Peter. Yes I use the native TV apps (netflix and prime) as they work well with dolby vision and atmos.
It is such a frustrating situation. I can't believe it hasn't been resolved as seems the issue has been around for years now.
Can you get lossless dolby atmos from the apple TV 4k 2021 with this device? It was not clear to me.
Technically, you can. But whatever you are streaming from the ATV4K, Disney+/Netflix/Prime, they are going to be lossy and compressed anyway. This was also highlighted by Sean Yang.
Salut Peter. Scriu în limba română. Mă poți ajuta la o întrebare? Am un televizor hisense 4K, E76GQ eArc 2.1, Dolby Atmos, și un sounbar LG SP9YA eArc 2.1, Dolby Atmos, dolby true HD, etc. Pot scoate sunet necomprimat fără pierderi Dolby Atmos de pe aplicația Netflix din televizor ?Ori trebuie să cumpăr și un blue ray? Iar dacă da, trebuie să fie uhd 4K ? Vă mulțumesc 🙏.
This device support “CEC”
Do I increase de volume of the may receiver with de apple tv control?
And another question.
Do HDMI 2.0b 15 meters support eArc?
That’s my only option😢.
Thanks
Yes, you can control the volume with the Apple TV control. HDMI 2.0b supports eARC. But whether 15m does support it, I can't tell. Best way is to check with the manufacturer. I never had much luck with anything over 5m.
Hi Peter, I really love your explanations and the in-depth look at some of these obscure devices that solve weird issues with electronics.
I wanted to ask you about solving this problem I have, which is a Beam Gen 2 that is currently connected to my PC via the included optical dongle. My monitor is a typical PC gaming screen, so it doesn't have ARC of any kind at the back, just DP 1.4 and two HDMI 2.1 ports. I wanted to use the Beam to play audio coming from 2 sources - my PS5 and my PC, and switch between these 2 sources when needed. Will the device from your video let me do that? Is it even possible to achieve?
No this device won't work for that purpose. You kind of need an av receiver for this job already.
@@PeterPee Thank you for such a quick reply. I've researched this a little bit further and if I understand correctly, I need an eArc capable AVR, for example Onkyo TX-NR6100, with "Works with SONOS" certification and that will let me just use my monitor as a display only(which is the only thing it can do anyway), but the AVR will take care of everything sound related, right? I don't really care about lossless Atmos for now, since I usually watch movies on my PC anyway, which only outputs DD+ 5.1 thanks to the optical connection. I just care about my PS5 having sound that is not limited to my headphones.
Thanks for your content Pete. So if I upgrade my TV which has E-Arc capability in the near future will this devise be made redundant and unusable? My Sonos is set up is Arc, bass and 2 surrounds
I use a hd fury arcana. LgB1 with e-arc. If you buy a new e-arc tv you should maybee have 3 hdmi 2.1 ports. But if you have a e-arc splitter (like in this rewiev). You can use the tv hdmi port (I use appletv) and it transfer sound to it auto. So its not a brick with a new tv. Its more ports for you to connect all devices. But if you want dts and e-arc. Choose a tv with many hdmi 2.1 ports. If you want only truehd/dts with sonos arc as example. And using a old non e-arc tv. Buy this. My lg b1 does not work with nintendo switch surround and dts (lg tv). But hd fury arcana does the work.
Yes, that's right Joakim, the HDFury Arcana would have been made redundant because it only has 1 input port. But this will expand 2 more HDMI ports for you!
@@PeterPee I use a hdmi hub and it works with the tv hdmi ports, tv hdmi ports and hd fury arcana. For me b1 only have 2 hdmi 2.1 ports (included e-arc). So it give me more hdmi 2.1 ports this way.
Hi Peter. Does this device support DTS. My TV doesn’t support DTS and I’m just wondering if this would be a way around it?
It will actually pass through but it won't enable the support if your devices like your TV or the soundbar doesn't support it in the first place.
@@PeterPee damn! I have a Sonos Arc and was all excited when Sonos added DTS support but I’ve since worked out my TV doesn’t support it. 😭
Hi Peter. I have a Sonos Arc connected to a Samsung 2019 QLED which was updated to e-arc. When playing most non-atmos content it says Dolby Digital Plus 5.1.
In another room I have a Sonos Beam Gen 2 connected to a Samsung 2020 QLED which has always had e-arc. When playing most non-atmos content it says Dolby PCM Multichannel 5.1…
Not sure which is correct and can’t seem to change either, the digital plus seems to sound better to me? Is there a decoding problem with the beam or that TV?
Many thanks
Digital+ is better. Your content must be playing before you can select Dolby digital plus though.
Hey Matt, which one would you choose for a 15 sq m room?
What hdmi plug would you recommend?
i am looking to purchase sonos arc + sub gen 3... do i really need e-arc? my LG c8 only support arc. i read there is some lip sync issue, is that true?
The lip sync issue is TV dependent. Not familiar with the C8 but I am using the CX which is 2 generations later and it is oK.
Hi Peter,
I need help. My setup is Apple TV 4K, Samsung TV no eARC and a Sonos ARC
I connected everything.
Everything works perfectly, I got Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos, sounds great but here is my problem. Apple TV Remote work with the exception of de volume, every time I try to raise or lower it Samnsing TV volume start working.
I have to use my phone and got to the Sonos app in order control the volume from here.
It would be nice is I just can use te Apple TV remote.
I see that Apple Watch Ultra Peter!!
Hey! Yes, now I only have to charge the watch every other day, rather than daily... Haha... what a low bar.
Hi! Is this compatible to use in the uk? Would I need to buy anything extra for it to work? Can you recommend a alternative option for uk?
Yes it is compatible to use in UK. My version came with a 3 PIN UK adaptor plug for the power supply even.
@@PeterPee Will I get Atmos with Netflix as it’s streaming?
Newbie question😅 so i have to connect my shield tv to this device hdmi port 1-3 and also connect hdmi 2.1 cable from my Samsung TV arc hdmi port to this devices TV eArc port and also connect from devices eArc audio to my Sonos Arc? Is this a correct setup?
Thanks in advance
Yes, that is the correct setup. Sorry I have been busy at work and couldn't reply earlier!
Thanks Pete. This looks good and a direct competition for HDfury Arcana. HDFURY Aracana works but always having problems now and then and intermittent sound drops. Need to factory reset everytime to make it work again. This new product how it is compared to HDFURY?? The way this product advertise even you dont need an ARC/EARC Port in TV you will get DOLBY Atmos. Is that even possible?? Always great to watch your content.... Keep up your good work 👍🌹🌹
Yes, you don't need an ARC/EARC port in the TV for this. It is comparable but I have to state that both these devices have their quirks. This OREI also had 2 drop frames during the full run of a movie. But I didn't have to reset.
@@PeterPee Thanks Pete for your clarification. I am really surprised how all the TV manufacturers / Sonos ignore DTS X HD codecs except Sony when most of the best bluray movies are still in the DTS format. But seriously Sonos should have included an passthrough hdmi which would have solved all these issues. Fiddling with this HDFURY settings to get the sound is really irritating. Today morning I need to an reset again as there is no sound. Need to reset my CEC and reset ARCANA to make it work again.
Hey Peter, great video!!! Was on the fence about buying a Sonos Arc till I watched this video. Especially since my Samsung QN65QN65FNF only has the Arc and not E Arc output. Bought the Sonos Arc, Orei HDA-935, and an Anker Ultra high speed hdmi( 8k@60Hz/4k@120Hz 48Bpbs. Connected my components per Orei instruction manual using the Anker hdmi from tv arc port to Orei and used included hdmi cord from Sonos to connect Arc sound bar to Orei sound bar port. Then tested several movies from installed apps on my tv that actually have Dolby Atmos…, but my Sonos app shows that I’m only getting Dolby Digital Plus 5.1. Have tv sound settings to bitstream and Dolby Digital Plus ( have tried Dolby digital as well ) and have also tried swapping the before mentioned hdmi cords to both positions. Do you think the provided Sonos hdmi or the Anker cord are to blame or did I miss something? Once again appreciate the vid and your time, thanks Peter!
Hey did you ever figure it out? I'm having the same issue as you. I'm trying it with Avengers End Game on Disney plus that clearly shows Dolby Atmos capable but my Sonos app still shows just Dolby Digital Plus 5.1
@@CC-xl9ow Nah…, never did figure it out. Orei was also causing my Sonos speakers to to make a crackling sound so I just sent it back. Love the Sonos Arc and dual sub set up though! Guess I’ll have to upgrade my tv…, hoping the LG C2 drops in price again before the super bowl
Hi Peter, thx again for the great video. I was searching to buy the HDA-935 here in Belgium 🇧🇪 but it seems hard to find. I can buy it from Amazon in the US but with transport and taxes it would still cost me +200eur... are you aware of any similar device which is more easy to find in the center of Europe? (Fury is available but at +250eur!) Thx and best regards!
Hi Peter, forget my above post! I have ordered one piece right away from Orei website where I paid 152usd including delivery in Belgium and including 10% discount they currently provide on their website... this is still remarkable cheaper than the Fury alternative
If my cable tv box only support stereo PCM and my tv is a non-eARC TV, will I still be able to get Dolby Atmos on my beam 2 via this orei product ?
Now when using your cable tv box. You need something that has atmos output capability
Yep, as per what Macarius said. It won't magically upgrade to Atmos if it doesn't support Atmos in the first place.
i bought this item after seeing this video, was looking for ways to use a beam 2 with my pc. it didnt work on the get go but after some trial and error it works (sonos app confirms i get either 7.1 pcm or atmos depending on settings) but with some bugs/kinks that i cant tell if its due to a faulty unit or just bugs in the firmware:
1) always needing to remove and reinsert the hdmi cable from my beam 2 in order to wake it when using it with this HDA-935 after long periods of no audio or reboots (either because i muted my pc for more than 15/20mins or because i restarted pc/the beam itself)
neither cycling inputs or audio setting on the extractor can help solve this. only reinserting cables would solve it.
this cant be right as on top of inconvenience, it sounds like its gona wear out the cable and hdmi inputs very fast if i need to replug cables every few hours
2) no other audio setting on the extractor works properly except the 7.1. i could select stereo output on my PC and change the extractor to 2ch or 5.1 but i will either get errors from my PC OR sound would come out showing as 7.1 pcm on the sonos app.
anyone have similar issues? None of these issues are present when i connect my beam 2 to pc directly with optical so i think my beam is not the issue
WHAT IS YOUR GPU?
Hi, does this device works with Bose Soundbar 600 with dolby atmos?
Yes it does.
Thanks Peter! So glad you did a review on this product.
Just to confirm, I currently use a monitor as my display device for my laptop and PS5, run through a DAC to connect to Sonos Arc. This will give me DDL for laptop and stereo (PCM) for PS5.
So with this device, it will allow Dolby Atmos for both laptop and PS5 on my monitor? Thanks in advance!
Your laptop and PS5 must be configured to output Atmos ya. And to be completely accurate, it does not enable Atmos on your monitor. It enables Atmos for your Sonos Arc soundbar.
@@PeterPee Thanks Pete! Pai seh for the confusing wording.... Hahaha. Most important thing is that this setup will finally allow me to fully utilise Arc's Atmos capability. Just to confirm again, with this setup and setting my laptop / PS5 to output Atmos, am I getting full loseless Dolby Atmos or Lossy?
I'm not sure if you already know this, but it's good to know that atmos isn't supported for games on PS5, only for movies I believe.
@@stijnw11 oh that's true. I forgot about that. Thanks for pointing out
How can I get lossless Dolby Atmos in hisence 55a73f with zebronics wireless Dolby Atmos sound bar ? Any suggestions please
thats a crappy sounbar, not real dolby atmos
I recently got this device and tried with hdmi cable that came with my apple TV. It did not seem to work consistently. Ordered highspeed HDMI (monoprice certified), waiting for them to arrive to test it out again.
Did it work? I cant make it work false advertising
@@wilsonvalderrama1131 Yes it worked. Awesome little device. But had to get a replacement after 3 months due to power failure.
Does the OREI eARC 4K 60Hz Audio Extractor Converter 3x1 Soundbar 18G HDMI 2.0 ARC Support - HDCP 2.2 - Dolby Atmos Digital/DTS Passthrough CEC, HDR, Dolby Vision HDR10 Support (HDA-935) works on bose sounbar 600?
Yes it does.
Hey pete, how about a tv that supports dolby atmos decoding but doesnt have eArc port? Does it mean i will not get lossless atmos?
That's correct. With just the regular ARC port, you will only get lossy Atmos if you are playing through the TV. But with this HDA-935, you will get lossless if you are connecting the Apple TV 4K, Nvidia shield or Bluray player directly into the HDA-935.
@@PeterPee I'm confused, I was under the impression Apple TV does not support any form of lossless Atmos?
Does it support 4k@600mhz/60hz while doing 4:2:2 12b?
I don't think so. This is HDMI 2.0, so it might not do 4:2:2 12 bit.
Hello. I want to buy this device, but there was one important question. Audio outputs from HDMI out and optical out at the same time. I want to use the optical output with my subwoofer so as not to spend money on a branded subwoofer from sonos.
Both will work at the same time. But I recommend against doing so. Cos there will be no cross over at the bass frequencies and it will cause your bass to bloat.
Now on sale Amazon US $70.68...I just ordered one.
Wonder why you don’t do comparison video?
I don't have the HDFury Arcana with me anymore. It was too expensive for what it does. What comparison were you specifically looking for? Short of showing the actual device, I did already talk about how this compares with the HDFury Arcana.
Hello, is there a device that I can connect my sonos one sl to my tv without the beam or arc?
Nope unfortunately not. The Sonos One sl won't connect other than wirelessly.
@@PeterPee , ok thanks
Does that work with a Samsung tv.. with a smart hdmi box? It’s a great idea.. and cheaper than a Earc tv upgrade… I will get round to a tv upgrade after I get a sub mini 1st.. but that might be a great kit as an interim product to get lossless Atmos.
Yeah, and at USD129, it's good as an interim solution. I am pretty sure it works with the Samsung TV with that external HDMI box.
@@PeterPee Thanks Peter for sharing this product it will be a cheaper solution for many who invested in 4K TV without Earc… The Home cinema experience is certainly at home go many people now ^__^=
nice content
Thank you!
I have the following issue that I hope the Orei might solve.
I own a Samsung Q90T from 2020 which supports Atmos and pass through. Also has eARC.
I also own a 7.1.4 system Sonos Arc + Sub + 2 Era 300.
Atmos works fine from the TV (however not sure if I get lossy Atmos) and I get Atmos True HD from PS5 when playing Blu-ray 4k UHD.
Currently I should get 7.1 when gaming from PS5 but I believe the TV is messing with the pass through (all the settings on TV and PS5 are fine).
Would the Orei solve the issue and feed Arc directly with clean pass through from PS5? Will I still get Atmos from the TV native apps?
However I hate the idea of using an extra remote …
Thank you in advance
Technically, you won't need to use the remote once it is set up properly. But my uncertainty is whether the PS5 will still pass through Atmos through the OREI. That I am not sure. Haven't tested that out.
@@PeterPeeis the HDFury Arcana better than the Orei?
how are you getting Atmos with BR from the PS5? The setting is greyed out on my Q70 and all I get is dolby digital + if im lucky
What is the maximum length I can use from my projector?
5m will be safe.
Hello Peter, is there any other one you'd recommend? As this one is out of stock.
Right now, the only other one is the HDFury Arcana but that's more than twice the price.
What about the Orei UHDS-401A? Looks identical.
My question is, does it’s shows on sonos app that the audio output is dolby atmos true hd which is uncompress?
Since some version ago, Sonos stopped showing the difference between TrueHD and lossy Atmos so no good way to tell.
@@PeterPee right now I’m playing a dolby atmos movie on blueray on xbox serie x and it’s show dolby atmos true hd. So my question is if I go with that product may I receive true hd lossless audio via apple tv hardware?
@@jonathanlopeznieves2167 Apple TV can do TrueHD via uncompressed multichannel PCM, but it cannot do TrueHD + Atmos
from what I understand, and I think this just comes from the confusing advertisement from apple, there is just no support of lossless atmos since it doesn't support TrueHD to begin with. A bit confusing if you use apple tv as an example and put lossless atmos in the title. even like infuse or plex on apple tv, it'll simply decode the trueHD track and turn it into PCM multichannel without the metadata for atmos (I've yet to test this on the newest a15 model, but judging from the lack of advertisement on this feature, I really doubt it). The only readily available box I can think of that supports TrueHD is probably the nvidia shield.
So are you saying we can’t get lossless Atmos from an AppleTV 4K using HDMI eARC because Apple TV simply doesn’t support it?
@@steverupert6988 in short, yes. streaming app as you know only does atmos via dolby digital plus (which is lossy atmos) doesn't matter if it is apple tv 4k or not, that is just internet bandwidth limitation. But if you have local media server (like plex or emby) and you rip your own blurays with trueHD track then you probably want something other than atv4k. But if that's not the case for you, atv4k is fine (well and just about any streaming box).
I use ATV4k and sonos app reports to me that it is playing atmos or digital 5.1 or multichannel pcm. It just depends on what setting you have set in the settings section of the atv box. Example, if I play content that is not atmos content but have the settings in the atv to put out atmos the content plays in multichannel pcm (as reported by somos app). If I play that same content and change the settings in the atv to put out digital 5.1 sonos app reports dolby digital 5.1... If I play atmos content with the atmos settings in atv enabled sonos app reports playing in atmos..... what am I missing here?
@@jb7753 the atmos content you see is the low bit rate lossy version. Atmos is really just a market term, and a bit more than just a badge on the sonos app. Atmos track can either be in Dolby digital plus codec format (the low bit rate lossy one, it’s essentially a modified AC3 codec) or trueHD codec (high bit rate lossless). If you stream your context from online sources, it’ll just be the Dolby digital plus atmos regardless of your streaming device, apple or not. But if you have local contents with trueHD track, the Apple TV 4K will simply decode and output it as PCM (which is “lossless”) but without the atmos metadata. Like I mention above, only a few streaming boxes can pass trueHD codec track like the nvidia shield. If you are only watching online contents (like nexflix…etc) this simply doesn’t matter since everything the audio track you stream is lossy in low but rate anyway.
@@weichenyang0723 good thing I stick to physical media as much as possible!!!
And to be able to listen to music in lossless quality, like 24bit 48khz, is there any way to hack the DAC of the sonos beam 2? I use the Nvidia Tv shield pro, and I use the USB player pro app and it breaks the restriction of android playing music at 24 Bits and 96 khz..
The Sonos system is fully locked in. You can't bypass the DAC.
@@PeterPee the Amazon music broken this lock, por example
I saw this a few days ago. I was hoping you would check it out 😂. I like that it has 3 hdmi inputs. I have a roku ultra, Xbox and Nintendo switch. So it’s perfect. I’m just worried about it being finicky like the hd fury. I don’t want to have my wife or kids calling me that there is no sound coming out. The price is great also. I might wait to see if there is a deal for Black Friday. I also have a 2016 Samsung 65” tv
HAHAHAHa i can relate to this soooo much but with my roommates. Peter says, “the handshaking however, is kind of slow” so i am not sure…
@@XantosShado I prefer it to take a few second and be ok then it dropping like on the Hd fury
@@J.Ballest HDFURY Arcana is too buggy. We need to keep resetting to get the sound back again. Their support is so bad. Good to see there is a competitor offering half the price with many good features connecting more than 3 hdmi inputs
Yes, the handshaking is slow. But the sound eventually comes in. I have observed 2 drop frames (like literally 2 frames (0.05 seconds each) in the length of one movie but it recovered itself gracefully. You might not even notice it. Both these devices are not first party devices and they are trying to make something work which the original manufacturers didn't think about. Both has its quirks and are finicky. But at least... this one is so much cheaper.
@@pashok75 that is y I haven’t bought the Fury. It would be hard to justify something that expensive that keeps messing up to my wife. 😔
Is there a way to confirm that full lossless audio is received in the sonos app?
The app used to differentiate that but not anymore.
Arcana recommends against using their product for ARC to eARC per this so what are your thoughts on why they say that? "CAN NOT convert arc TV to earc TV. must work with exmple : Apple TV 4k for got real atmos on sonos arc"
I am not sure why they say that. The purpose of the product is to get full lossless Atmos out of a TV that doesn't have ARC. This product comes between the source and the soundbar, not the TV. And the purpose is to get full eARC bandwidth out, without being limited by the TV.
Maybe they are referring to not connecting it to a non eARC soundbar?
What's the difference between this and the hda 931?
The 931 only has 1 input. This has 3.
@@PeterPee but apart from the input it will work 100% the same?
Can I use it with a PC?
Yes, I used it with a PC. But to be clear, I am using a PC with a RTX 3060 card which has HDMI 2.1 port so that might be necessary to output fully lossless ATMOS.
HDFury arcana support never helps. I have asked my setup question multiple times. They ask to see pinned posts which never help. Then they ask to post question in certain format. But even after that my issue did not get solved.
I shall not comment further on their customer support....
@@PeterPee I understand I already ordered the OREI extractor after your review waiting for delivery on monday.
Selling dreams !
Just taken receipt of this device and it doesn’t work. Setup is Apple TV 4K, Sony Bravia xf90, Sonos arc, and I’ve tried every combination of hdmi port and two different sets of hdmi cables. Pretty sure I’m not doing anything wrong and the device doesn’t detect the Apple TV, the arc or my tv.
I’ve messaged Orei for comment and feedback so hopefully I’ll get a response, however, I’m somewhat peeved given I’m in the uk and the device has come from the US. It ain’t gonna be cheap to return 🤦🏻♂️
Please email them. I told them about your comment and they will work with you to resolve it. I am sorry it didn't work for you.