That double trigger setup is pretty cool! Never seen one like that before. Lee Harvey Oswald used a carbine Carcano in the same calibre to shoot JFK. A lot of the guys from my town had a Cooey for popping gophers. They were very reliable utilitarian rifles often in the family for generations. Great video 🙌
It works pretty well too. We had a good time shooting it. He sure did. I believe he used the m38 variant. That’s the one Ian was talking about in the video. Cooey’s are great! They last a lifetime and are very simple to fix. Thanks for watching!
I like my Carcanos but would love them if they weren't zeroed for 300 yards from the factory. They hit so high at closer range. Did they fix that with the Eaton's version or does it hit super high at 50M as well?
I was about 15 paces from the targets and I hit them (when it could get a round off). Both were stacks of paper maybe a ruler tall. Not the smallest targets. Can't really speak to it's accuracy since the busted extractor made shooting it equivalent to a muzzle loader. Shoot->Ramrod->Clear->Shoot again; Gets really tiring when you have a perfectly good bolt doing nothing. If this makes a difference, the Carcano is a pre-WW2. I was always under the impression that the fixed-sight M38s and it's variants were the only ones zero'd at 300 m, not the ladder sight variants. This would have had ladder sights originally. Also, since it's a new calibre, they would have had to mess with the barrel and rifling. I suspect it's probably accurate to longer than 300, the 6.5 M-S cartridge shoots pretty flat, but that's speculation.
I was about 16 years old and my neighbor was showing me his 6.5 x 55mm deer 🦌 rifle. In my head I was 🤔thinking “That’s a deer rifle?🤨🤔No way😂😂” Here I am, with a.308 Winchester and a .30/06 and of the belief that my .30 caliber rifles had more punch @100 yards than the 6.5 did @ the muzzle. Then came the first day of big game in upstate New York and I got skunked but, he tagged a beautiful 9 pointer. My opinion of smaller caliber rifles went bye bye. Since then, I’ve taken whitetail deer 🦌 with .243 Winchester, 6mm and 6.8 SPC with ease.
Fantastic video! Thank you for providing so much information on an otherwise difficult to research firearm. It's also nice to know that somebody else out there doesn't think the carcanos deserve such a bad rep lol
Eaton's is very well documented, almost to the point that it would be hard to pick what topics to cover. I have never seen a published history book for The Bay stores beyond the fur trade era, however.
A video on the Bay would have to be multiple parts. There is just too much history to cover. Eaton's and Canadian Tire are the perfect topics but as you said, have been covered. We'll see what happens with a retrospective. We would like to do one in our style.
I've shot Cooey's since the late 60's and have never heard of this..:)There was a small offshoot plant in Brighton,Ontario for Cooey.Isn't the Lakefield-Mossberg 64B a Cooey design?
and Woodwards (1.49 days anyone), Fields, Simpsons, Woolco, Morgan's (so my brothers wife tells me, along with Wizmart)Red Apple, the Met, oh man there were so many. My favorite was Woodwards at Southgate mall in Edmonton
"Used from the highest peaks of the Alps to the deepest depression of the Libyan desert"...let's not forget the 6th floor of the Texas Book Depository in Dealey Plaza! too soon? Probably too soon.. In all seriousness, having fired that exact rifle, I can verify that it didn't explode in my face. I will also go further and say that shooting that rifle is one of the greatest memories of my life
Thanks! Yes, it’s an accent thing. Rather than embarrass myself further by trying to pronounce it correctly, I just pronounce it the way I’m comfortable with and accept my fate in the comments 😅.
I know virtually nothing about firearms; my direct experience is entirely limited to viewing museum displays. That said, generally speaking, is a WW I era weapon safe to fire? I would be very concerned about metal fatigue, corrosion, etc. and so I would not want to test it myself.
Typically yes. Most guns of the era were created with smokeless powder in mind so they can withstand some pretty heavy modern loads. Fatigue and corrosion absolutely play a factor into the safety of the firearm but this one was inspected thoroughly and, as you saw, we did some barn tests with it prior to shooting. You are right to be worried though. When in doubt, have an expert take a look at it.
Depends on the model, the condition of the firearm, Most bolt guns are strong actions, some revolvers are real junkers, others great... condition, condition condition!
That double trigger setup is pretty cool! Never seen one like that before. Lee Harvey Oswald used a carbine Carcano in the same calibre to shoot JFK. A lot of the guys from my town had a Cooey for popping gophers. They were very reliable utilitarian rifles often in the family for generations. Great video 🙌
It works pretty well too. We had a good time shooting it.
He sure did. I believe he used the m38 variant. That’s the one Ian was talking about in the video.
Cooey’s are great! They last a lifetime and are very simple to fix.
Thanks for watching!
LHO used an un modified Carcano in its original 6.5x52 Carcano round
You've put a lot of time and effort into this, and it's appreciated. Thanks!
Thanks. We appreciate that.
I like my Carcanos but would love them if they weren't zeroed for 300 yards from the factory. They hit so high at closer range. Did they fix that with the Eaton's version or does it hit super high at 50M as well?
I was about 15 paces from the targets and I hit them (when it could get a round off). Both were stacks of paper maybe a ruler tall. Not the smallest targets. Can't really speak to it's accuracy since the busted extractor made shooting it equivalent to a muzzle loader. Shoot->Ramrod->Clear->Shoot again; Gets really tiring when you have a perfectly good bolt doing nothing.
If this makes a difference, the Carcano is a pre-WW2. I was always under the impression that the fixed-sight M38s and it's variants were the only ones zero'd at 300 m, not the ladder sight variants. This would have had ladder sights originally.
Also, since it's a new calibre, they would have had to mess with the barrel and rifling. I suspect it's probably accurate to longer than 300, the 6.5 M-S cartridge shoots pretty flat, but that's speculation.
Really good job on this, this was interesting, entertaining and well polished I might add. You make good, enjoyable content.
Thank you very much!
I was about 16 years old and my neighbor was showing me his 6.5 x 55mm deer 🦌 rifle. In my head I was 🤔thinking “That’s a deer rifle?🤨🤔No way😂😂” Here I am, with a.308 Winchester and a .30/06 and of the belief that my .30 caliber rifles had more punch @100 yards than the 6.5 did @ the muzzle.
Then came the first day of big game in upstate New York and I got skunked but, he tagged a beautiful 9 pointer. My opinion of smaller caliber rifles went bye bye. Since then, I’ve taken whitetail deer 🦌 with .243 Winchester, 6mm and 6.8 SPC with ease.
The owner of the rifle has a few in 6.5. He seems to really like them. We can attest they aren't bad to shoot.
Different 6.5, but the Swede you mentioned is widely used in Scandinavia even today
Fantastic video! Thank you for providing so much information on an otherwise difficult to research firearm. It's also nice to know that somebody else out there doesn't think the carcanos deserve such a bad rep lol
They really don’t. They are excellent rifles. You’re welcome and thanks for watching!
Well now i want a bay/eatons retrospective but those docs wouldnt be so mini
Don't you worry. The Eaton's one will be coming... some time.
Eaton's is very well documented, almost to the point that it would be hard to pick what topics to cover. I have never seen a published history book for The Bay stores beyond the fur trade era, however.
A video on the Bay would have to be multiple parts. There is just too much history to cover. Eaton's and Canadian Tire are the perfect topics but as you said, have been covered. We'll see what happens with a retrospective. We would like to do one in our style.
I've shot Cooey's since the late 60's and have never heard of this..:)There was a small offshoot plant in Brighton,Ontario for Cooey.Isn't the Lakefield-Mossberg 64B a Cooey design?
It was a rumour that floated around with that generation of shooters. Since the rumour is in an information book, we felt like we had to correct it.
Greetings from south central BC, thanks for the video. As a lifelong student of all things Cooey, I found it interesting and well presented.
Happy greetings back from Alberta! Thanks for watching. Cooey is a fascinating topic and we wish they were still around.
I love your videos. Keep up the good work. I’ve heard about this rifle before in passing but didn’t know the full story.
Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
It’s not a well catalogued story, that’s for sure. Isn’t nearly as dangerous as previously stated.
Man, it's crazy to think we used to live in a world that supported Eaton's, Sears, the Bay, Zellers, and K-Mart simultaneously.
Don’t forget Simmons, Saan, Woolworth’s, and army and navy. We were addicted to department stores.
and Woodwards (1.49 days anyone), Fields, Simpsons, Woolco, Morgan's (so my brothers wife tells me, along with Wizmart)Red Apple, the Met, oh man there were so many.
My favorite was Woodwards at Southgate mall in Edmonton
"Used from the highest peaks of the Alps to the deepest depression of the Libyan desert"...let's not forget the 6th floor of the Texas Book Depository in Dealey Plaza! too soon? Probably too soon..
In all seriousness, having fired that exact rifle, I can verify that it didn't explode in my face. I will also go further and say that shooting that rifle is one of the greatest memories of my life
We actually had a line in there referencing jfk but it was cut for time.
It throws out quite a fireball, doesn’t it? You can come shooting any day ;)
I still have 2 cooey .22. A model 60 and a model 64, both pre winchester. Still super accurate and work flawlessly.
They are such simple and well engineered guns, they can go for a long time without any maintenance. The Cooey family knew what they was doing.
@@DiveInCanada yes they did.
Interesting and well made vid. Car-Can-o is the anglicized pronunciation though not car-cane-o
Thanks! Yes, it’s an accent thing. Rather than embarrass myself further by trying to pronounce it correctly, I just pronounce it the way I’m comfortable with and accept my fate in the comments 😅.
Perhaps Cooey handled the import and delivery to Eatons
It’s very possible.
Interesting Eaton's fact: They were the first major retailer in Canada to only accept Cash.
They had the power to pull stuff like that. It was sad to see them go at the turn of the century.
Great video!
Thanks!
Great overview, you owning a Ross makes me super Jealous.
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't own it any more but it was fun while it lasted. Very picky about ammo but it shot really well.
Interesting video!
Thanks!
I know virtually nothing about firearms; my direct experience is entirely limited to viewing museum displays.
That said, generally speaking, is a WW I era weapon safe to fire? I would be very concerned about metal fatigue, corrosion, etc. and so I would not want to test it myself.
Typically yes. Most guns of the era were created with smokeless powder in mind so they can withstand some pretty heavy modern loads. Fatigue and corrosion absolutely play a factor into the safety of the firearm but this one was inspected thoroughly and, as you saw, we did some barn tests with it prior to shooting. You are right to be worried though. When in doubt, have an expert take a look at it.
Depends on the model, the condition of the firearm,
Most bolt guns are strong actions, some revolvers are real junkers, others great... condition, condition condition!