Pretty much! I can’t tell you how many people have asked me to do a video about the science of what is basically just an over-complicated way of explaining ghosts…
@@TheChiptide I think remnant is fun, and overtime it’s less ghost related and more technological horror explorative (see: Mimic) but it absolutely took a lot of time to get to that point. and while into the pit itself is one big remnant thing that’s hard to explain (each ball in the pit being a person who died due to Eleanor basically creating a pocket dimension, which is insane) the game doesn’t try to… explain that, whatsoever. you give a fun explanation to that
It's actually Agony, there's a few differences in the mechanics, remnant involving a dead spirit and having healing capabilities and Agony being an emotional energy that can also haunt but can't heal. @@yuriviolence
@@yuriviolence Does remnant require death in order to haunt something? If so, it can't be the same as Agony, because the scientist put his own agony into the crystals.
I love psychology, so I love this theory! But,as a theorist,I should point out that the game shows the past changing the future. We take a mallet off a machine,it's head is gone in the future. We put a paper plate pal on the wall,it's there in the future. Time travel rat. And the doors are broken in the past, and they're just gone in the future. This implies someone removed them between the past and the present, and Jeff doesn't say a thing about the doors being gone. As an explanation for the books, though,I'd say it's dead on.
Yeah, it seems to me like the original author intended for it to be all in Oswald's head (or at least purposely left the possibility open), while the makers of the game interpreted it much more literally
@@TheChiptideThe original author for all the Frights and Tales books is Scott, he wrote a draft for all the stories, I think either 3 or 4 pages or 10 to 13 pages, and then the authors use that draft as a basis.
@malucart The point I'm making is that Scott specifically made the pit part of the larger story of the Stitchline, so it wouldn't be originally intended to be in his head.
I can see the idea of the ball pit possibility being affected by Oswalds mind, especially when the other animatronics only start coming after when he gets the book from Gabriella. But considering how they see the suit at the end of the story and the Epilogues using the ball bit as a way to revisit memories, even going to other buildings that were apparently before Jeff’s (But after Freddy’s closed) Theirs definitely some truths to the things that happened with it
Haven't seen the full vid yet, but this would explain why leaving the pizzaria in the past/fantasy is only a 1 star ending. Without this theory, that ending is rather positive, with Oswald assumedly making a new life for himself. With this, it's Oswald giving in to the dissociative fantasy entirely, ignoring real life and losing himself to his imagination.
It's very clear that Oz is a clone of his father, whether animatronic or flesh. His drawings and flashback trip are his dad's memories. The Freddy mask could be a 'you are the band' reference...or could point to his dad being the Freddy bully. Matching with the Bonnie bully theory in the Steelwool games.
I just thought Oswald's dad was one of the kids that were friends with one of the murdered kids. The book mentioned that Oswald met two boys that he befriended, was one of the murdered kids. I haven't seen anyone bring up Oswald's two friends from the 1980s.
Maybe Oswald is actually just being manipulated by all the Freddy Fazbear victims' ghosts. More than likely one of the missing children, the ball pit is basically the villain in the story not the Yellow Rabbit.
His dad owning a Freddy mask, Ozwald probably saw old pictures at freddys when he was younger, But there is a bigger problem, his dad and Jeff sees the yellow rabbit making ball pit dream theory not make sence
Into the pit was a snes game originally Megacat asked scott did he want to make it a snes game and he said yes Eventually the idea was scrapped and the pixel art got better
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this is a realy interesting theory to be honest , it might acutely be correct based on everything we see but there is a weird details in the games idk if its in the book or not but in the end of the game wen oswald fights the bunny he gets bitten and the injury is engoldened by his father not only that but in the after seen credit for one of the endings jeff also sees pit bony so there are still somethings left unexplained
For the faztokens my thought was that his phone turned into coins that he used for the games, cause i don't think the phone was ever brought up again after that point iirc.
I heared that "Into the Pit" will be rereleased as a interactive book. So maybe this book will be replace the original story and makes everything in the game canon.
Well it's implied in the book that the agony inside the ball pit was calling Oswald to find a pit. The pit was trying to manipulate all scenarios so he could stay in the pit and get killed by the yellow rabbit. That's why when he said he didn't have any tokens and out of nowhere he had tokens just to keep him. And the reason why pit Bonnie looks so grotesque is what they think that William looked like before they died. And it's not really time travel it's just agony memories of all the victims and then later on we learn that the ball pit is basically a well of souls in agonizing pain.
Spring locks are used to hold the Endo skeleton in place, William got crushed by the spring locks because of how strong they were, If you have any intention of wearing the suit do not get near water.
I would love the disociative theory if it wasn't for a little detail: in the game some changes that you make in the past remain in the present. One good example is the door that Pitbonnie smashes while chasing Oswald, after he climbs outside the ball pit he realizes that the same door in Jeff's is now gone, and I think you can ask Jeff what happened and he'll simply reply "what door?" Like it was never there before.
That ending part where they "see" the animatronic, it's only his dad and the cat. The dad could have just been an illusion during that time frame, oswald may have thought the cat also suspected (humans tend to put our emotions into our animals, even when they don't feel the same). The dad could have also been playing into it, taking note of how his son was acting in recent times and "played" along to reconcile with him in some capacity.
I feel like combination of both actual time travel and a hallucination are accurate here, The protagonist isn't genuinely seeing past events as a fleshy version of springtrap probably doesn't exist, But what he sees is definitely real being a vivid other realm made up of memories of freddy's, of multiple traumatized kids manifested into some other reality where he can carry objects between. especially since oswold's never been in a Freddy's establishment before in his life.
Maybe all of this could explain the pit a bit more. It manifested a safe place for him, but once the idea of a monster at Freddy's, it gave him one, one that would follow him home...
Yeah, this theory might make sense in an universe where only Into the Pit happens, but not in an universe where agony exists, bad things constantly happen around Freddy's and there's a robot trying to stop it by going through the agony-filled objects. Unless things like this are extremely common in this world
It seems to me like originally they wrote this story intending for it to all be a dream, then later they retconned it to be the “agony” thing when they decided they wanted to tie it in with the rest of the stories. Could be wrong, but I can especially see that being the case if the epilogue was written by a different author than Into the Pit. I’ll have to look into it more!
@@TheChiptide Scott is the author of every story, as he stated in the 2nd interview with Dawko. He writes the basis of each story, anywhere from 10 to 15 pages, and has other authors flesh those out into something longer. So the plot of Into the Pit and the Stingers are both by Scott.
The way this literary uncovers the Game Omori is perfect! Despite being about Five Nights at Freddy’s and not Omori, but the explainable story of Omori (it’s already explained with the real world and dream world with him, but this further looks to the whole disscoiation and overactive imagination to the character of Sunny/Omori and the game itself. Also I love this theory, if it was canon I would love that. Who knows
I think this theory makes a lot of sense compounded with the evidence that if you call Mom while at Freddy’s, everything is treated as normal on her end which does not make ANY sense if you’re viewing it as everything happening to Oswald at Freddy’s is indeed happening in the past. With all the possible phone numbers, there’s no WAY this would be an oversight imo
This was so fascinating!!! I knew a lot of people were debating whether the events were real or not. I personally like to think that they're real, and that everyone seeing his dad normally is a result of some supernatural aspect. I really dig this explanation too, though!! It makes a lot of sense!! Thanks for taking the time to talk about it! 😊
I think its been said that all the books are the writers guessing what scott intended based off of some clues, so id say that the game is probably more accurate (except the parts changed so that the game wasnt boring)
I do wonder how this changes if we looked at Oswald being ND/having AuDHD? - The sensory intensity is dialed to 11 - Having been bullied for so long (let me just phrase it as what it is; he is being harassed, tormented, put through hell by his peers on a daily basis at school, with little to no escape) - Dealing with his new/dual reality in a very practical manner; being able to figure out a solution to a situation is to go back and get an item, even if it means facing the yellow rabbit again. - Everyone thinks he's just crazy/having a day dream (not only dismissing him/what hes saying, but ridicule him for it) When something is presented as "just a dream", its with the connocation that its not anything to worry about after you wake up/its trivial. Its a conditional explanation; that it ends and fades away once you wake up. But for some NDs, they simply do not have an erasable whiteboard for dreams. How do we help Oswald in this case; As you said, gaining new friends who can support him, show him that he can be brave for others, if not for himself. And when he succeds, the monster tries once again to attack, but are caught on the ropes of the pit. (Nice Tarzan reference by the way) Oswald got his dad out of there, and the monster is defeated. He'll most likely have these memories and trauma with him for the rest of his life, but by giving him the support thats right for him (and that he wants, at his own pace); he may expand on the positive sides of his life, gaining the strength and support to fight Pit Trap should it ever come back.
Ok then in a world where people are perfectly willing to rip out their teeth for a science project them not believing a kid when he says his dad is acting strange is perfectly normal and not suspect at all toward the supernatural within the setting…
I honestly WISH this was what happened in the story. I'm one of those few people who actually really loves psychological horror in the sense of "none of it was real, his psyche was broken", yknow granted it's actually well written and there are clues along the way that something is off. It'd also totally distinguish the book from the games' canon so we weren't debating over whether ghost magic can make entire living creatures out of Agony and why a ghost magic rabbit mimicking a serial killer would replace a kid's dad for fun. It also makes sense considering this is one of the only Frights that ends very happily; there was never actually a physical threat and Oz overcoming his mental struggles "killed" the evil and "brought back" his dad, who never left
I think that the main issue I have with this theory, comes down to the phrasing from the psychological discipline vs the intensity Oswald [the one suffering from them] experiences. Dissociative Fantasy is perhaps the simplest explanation, but its connotation are infantalizing (Which is a big problem in the field of psycology when it comes to accurately portraying/explaining phenomenons like the ball pit) From the second he emerges from the ball pit, Oswald is floodes with sensory overload from everything around him thats now changed. He has to figure out what the hell is going on, and is critical of his surroundings/struggle wirh coming to terms with the new reality he finds himself in. (Yes, it becomes an escape from his isolated normality, but everything he experiendes while being in 1985, is as real as outside of it.) Then as the positive interactions happens, Oswald finally gets a few good memories and experiences from being there. But, as soon as Pit Trap emerges, Oswald's "fantasy" is nothing short of a hellish nightmare that not only takes away the fun and safety of the place, but also follows him out of the pit. From the moment Pit Trap emerges from the Pit, and kidnapping his dad, Oswald does everything he can to save his dad from the monster. So not only has his new safe space been breached, but its spreading to every other part of his day-to-day. For Oswald, this isnt a dream. This is the worst nightmare he's ever had, and it just wont stop. No one seems to take him seriously, so it is up to him to find a way to fix this. Is it technically a fantasy? Yes, or at least for everyone else it looks that way. Does it feel like a dream? It operates on Dream Logic; suddenly you have the coins you wanted/needed But until you wake up, and have the support to ground yourself; what you life through *IS* real. TLDR; I agree that it is perhaps technically a dream, but we still need to view it from his POV; being tormented by a monster that causes an extreme amount of trauma in such a short time. And for those who are ND (+ the environments he suffers from); the things he experiences in the pit, gives him PTSD. Whether or not it is "actually" happening is irrelevant. Because he has been chased by this child-killing monster, and that doesn’t change until he finds a way to rescue his dad and defeat this thing. (Sorry for the long TLDR)
About the cat thing, I'm not sure if there is any research on it, but in my experience cats can change their behaviour towards someone based on the behaviour etc of someone they're bonded to. Basically a case of "I don't like you because my friend doesn't like you"
I'm still ok with the idea that everything the boy sees is caused by agony in the ball pit. All of the scenes in the past are basically just a fever dream induced by the spirits of the Dead kids. Of course that doesn't mean that it's impossible for the father to have actually been possessed by something and the current day activities are all actually happening for real!
You know, until the fact that the token start manifesting in his pockets, I was going to suggest another (frankly kinda absurd) aspect from the books that is brought up in passing in the video games: the Sea Bonnies. Given some of the aspects we've seen manifested by these parasitic microbials _COULD_ possibly suggest an influence on Oswald's subconscious to the point that he could accurately depict the Freddy Fazbear's crew, especially with several decades of unobserved evolution in the egregiously disgusting conditions of an abandoned ball pit
As someone with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly Multiple Personality Disorder) and MADD (Maladaptive Daydreaming Disorder), I wanted to jump in with some corrections and additions about dissociative disorders. Dissociation is not specifically linked to trauma by itself. Everyone dissociates to some degree, often called „zoning out”. Some people just dissociate so much it impairs life and becomes a disability or disorder. 75% of the population have experienced derealization/depersonalitzation, forms of dissociation, in their life and many people often don’t know that’s what they are experiencing/have experienced. What you are describing in your theory it sounds more like MADD than DID, which are very different but can have some overlap. „Dissociative fantasies” as you call them and MADD can both include themes of trauma peeking through to these „stories” people make up, just like how kids with trauma will act out their trauma in play to process it (Bluey episode Copycat shows this well). Trauma is not confirmed scientifically to be the cause of dissociation and DID, because it is obviously unethical to test this. Dissociative fantasies doesn’t inherently change to represent outer experiences, the example you used of a castle when feeling scared for example, oftentimes the fantasies can look like anything or represent anything, or just simply be a secondary inner place to retreat too. Dissociative fantasies can feel very real. Dissociative disorders are not considered *that* rare, 1.5% may sound like a small amount but that is a lot of people and remember it only accounts for diagnosed cases of DID and doesn’t include any other dissociative disorder. Neurodivergence, which has high rates of comorbid conditions or can often the direct cause of dissociation (example, ptsd) is estimated at 15-20% of the population. That is around the same amount of the population estimated to have intersex variation, has red hair or green eyes. I am impressed with the amount of research done on dissociative disorders and dissociation though, as people often just see dissociative disorders, DID and OSDD1 specifically, as scifi, creepy or frame the narrative in a stigmatising way.
How can a dream be reflective of events you didn't know happened in a time period before you were born in a place you've never been(a real place canonically by the way). Freddy's exists within the books, its an actual place with continuity stretching across multiple stories and if this was his dream everything in every other story connected to this one would have to also be his dream not anyone else's dream and if it is someone else's dream in which Freddy's exists that implies either HE made freddy's real or that it was always real.
HyperDroid's solution is pretty good, but I'm actually waiting on another smaller UA-camr to make a video on a solution that I think is better. A couple months ago I got an email with literally the most air tight solution I've ever seen that perfectly explains both the tally marks and the foxy grid, and got a name that nobody has suggested yet, but makes a lot of sense in hindsight. The kid who sent it to me asked that I not share it with anyone yet because he wanted to make his own video on it, but here we are 2 months later and he hasn't spoken a word of it! So I'm 99% sure I know the name of the Crying Child, but I can't tell anyone!
Ok then in a world where people are perfectly willing to rip out their teeth for a science project them not believing a kid when he says his dad is acting strange is perfectly normal and not suspect at all toward the supernatural within the setting…
that “the books actually explain things” disclaimer was like a circle of salt protecting you from me commenting about remnant logic
Pretty much! I can’t tell you how many people have asked me to do a video about the science of what is basically just an over-complicated way of explaining ghosts…
@@TheChiptide I think remnant is fun, and overtime it’s less ghost related and more technological horror explorative (see: Mimic) but it absolutely took a lot of time to get to that point. and while into the pit itself is one big remnant thing that’s hard to explain (each ball in the pit being a person who died due to Eleanor basically creating a pocket dimension, which is insane) the game doesn’t try to… explain that, whatsoever. you give a fun explanation to that
It's actually Agony, there's a few differences in the mechanics, remnant involving a dead spirit and having healing capabilities and Agony being an emotional energy that can also haunt but can't heal. @@yuriviolence
@@LiMe251 agony is the strongest form of remnant. referring to it as agony is more specific but not more correct necessarily
@@yuriviolence Does remnant require death in order to haunt something? If so, it can't be the same as Agony, because the scientist put his own agony into the crystals.
I love psychology, so I love this theory! But,as a theorist,I should point out that the game shows the past changing the future. We take a mallet off a machine,it's head is gone in the future. We put a paper plate pal on the wall,it's there in the future. Time travel rat. And the doors are broken in the past, and they're just gone in the future. This implies someone removed them between the past and the present, and Jeff doesn't say a thing about the doors being gone.
As an explanation for the books, though,I'd say it's dead on.
Yeah, it seems to me like the original author intended for it to be all in Oswald's head (or at least purposely left the possibility open), while the makers of the game interpreted it much more literally
@@TheChiptide that makes sense to me. I do love the explanation a lot
@@TheChiptideThe original author for all the Frights and Tales books is Scott, he wrote a draft for all the stories, I think either 3 or 4 pages or 10 to 13 pages, and then the authors use that draft as a basis.
@@LiMe251Which means the author isn't really Scott, even though he came up with most of it
@malucart The point I'm making is that Scott specifically made the pit part of the larger story of the Stitchline, so it wouldn't be originally intended to be in his head.
Wuh oh, he's caught in a time loop now.
Ya boy is groundhog daying
This video reminded me so much about old Game Theory.
you mean anything pre retirement
I can see the idea of the ball pit possibility being affected by Oswalds mind, especially when the other animatronics only start coming after when he gets the book from Gabriella. But considering how they see the suit at the end of the story and the Epilogues using the ball bit as a way to revisit memories, even going to other buildings that were apparently before Jeff’s (But after Freddy’s closed) Theirs definitely some truths to the things that happened with it
Haven't seen the full vid yet, but this would explain why leaving the pizzaria in the past/fantasy is only a 1 star ending. Without this theory, that ending is rather positive, with Oswald assumedly making a new life for himself. With this, it's Oswald giving in to the dissociative fantasy entirely, ignoring real life and losing himself to his imagination.
Yeah, I like that thought!
Actually, that ending doesn't have an amount of stars associated with it
How is that even remotely positive without this theory?
@@LiMe251 *abandons dad and 5 kids to die and is trapped in the past where he legally doesn't exist*
You mean to tell me that ending wasn't positive?
@@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 Yeah, lol, idk what that person is talking about.
It's very clear that Oz is a clone of his father, whether animatronic or flesh. His drawings and flashback trip are his dad's memories. The Freddy mask could be a 'you are the band' reference...or
could point to his dad being the Freddy bully. Matching with the Bonnie bully theory in the Steelwool games.
least schizo fnaf theory
I just thought Oswald's dad was one of the kids that were friends with one of the murdered kids.
The book mentioned that Oswald met two boys that he befriended, was one of the murdered kids.
I haven't seen anyone bring up Oswald's two friends from the 1980s.
Maybe Oswald is actually just being manipulated by all the Freddy Fazbear victims' ghosts. More than likely one of the missing children, the ball pit is basically the villain in the story not the Yellow Rabbit.
His dad owning a Freddy mask, Ozwald probably saw old pictures at freddys when he was younger,
But there is a bigger problem, his dad and Jeff sees the yellow rabbit making ball pit dream theory not make sence
Into the pit was a snes game originally
Megacat asked scott did he want to make it a snes game and he said yes
Eventually the idea was scrapped and the pixel art got better
"It was all a dream" fans from back when dream theory: oh, here we go again...
The nightmares are actually most likely from gas rather than sound discs.
16:05 It's because of the trauma of the pit and the rabbit replacing his dad.
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Maybe some day!
this is a realy interesting theory to be honest , it might acutely be correct based on everything we see but there is a weird details in the games idk if its in the book or not but in the end of the game wen oswald fights the bunny he gets bitten and the injury is engoldened by his father not only that but in the after seen credit for one of the endings jeff also sees pit bony so there are still somethings left unexplained
For the faztokens my thought was that his phone turned into coins that he used for the games, cause i don't think the phone was ever brought up again after that point iirc.
You can keep using the phone even in the pit, so it can’t have been turned into the coins.
Oh, that’s interesting! Like all the anachronistic things Oswald has on him are morphing into things not appropriate for the time? I could see that!
@@snakemaster254The commenter was talking about the book, where coins/tokens randomly appear in Oswald's pockets.
I heared that "Into the Pit" will be rereleased as a interactive book. So maybe this book will be replace the original story and makes everything in the game canon.
You're right
Well it's implied in the book that the agony inside the ball pit was calling Oswald to find a pit. The pit was trying to manipulate all scenarios so he could stay in the pit and get killed by the yellow rabbit. That's why when he said he didn't have any tokens and out of nowhere he had tokens just to keep him. And the reason why pit Bonnie looks so grotesque is what they think that William looked like before they died. And it's not really time travel it's just agony memories of all the victims and then later on we learn that the ball pit is basically a well of souls in agonizing pain.
The dad mentioning something bad happening is just foreshadowing
Oswald really need Fairy Godparents
Spring locks are used to hold the Endo skeleton in place,
William got crushed by the spring locks because of how strong they were,
If you have any intention of wearing the suit do not get near water.
And the picture of William and Henry
I would love the disociative theory if it wasn't for a little detail: in the game some changes that you make in the past remain in the present. One good example is the door that Pitbonnie smashes while chasing Oswald, after he climbs outside the ball pit he realizes that the same door in Jeff's is now gone, and I think you can ask Jeff what happened and he'll simply reply "what door?" Like it was never there before.
4:38 bro made a pun and didn’t notice
That ending part where they "see" the animatronic, it's only his dad and the cat. The dad could have just been an illusion during that time frame, oswald may have thought the cat also suspected (humans tend to put our emotions into our animals, even when they don't feel the same). The dad could have also been playing into it, taking note of how his son was acting in recent times and "played" along to reconcile with him in some capacity.
Matpat if he stayed with talking about science instead of becoming the lore guy:
I like this theory
When you explained his situation, that was shockingly close to how I had been until recently. Jesus.
I feel like combination of both actual time travel and a hallucination are accurate here, The protagonist isn't genuinely seeing past events as a fleshy version of springtrap probably doesn't exist, But what he sees is definitely real being a vivid other realm made up of memories of freddy's, of multiple traumatized kids manifested into some other reality where he can carry objects between. especially since oswold's never been in a Freddy's establishment before in his life.
Maybe all of this could explain the pit a bit more. It manifested a safe place for him, but once the idea of a monster at Freddy's, it gave him one, one that would follow him home...
What is the intro song? Is it original? is it a full song? Also the other songs, what are they?
Ffps
The song that plays over the intro is an original by me, and the one that plays over the end card is the same song with different instruments!
Having seen some of the other endings for the game, especially the good ending this actually makes a ton of sense
My question is how would this interact with when the ballpit returns in the Stitchwraith stingers/the epilogue of the books
Yeah, this theory might make sense in an universe where only Into the Pit happens, but not in an universe where agony exists, bad things constantly happen around Freddy's and there's a robot trying to stop it by going through the agony-filled objects. Unless things like this are extremely common in this world
It seems to me like originally they wrote this story intending for it to all be a dream, then later they retconned it to be the “agony” thing when they decided they wanted to tie it in with the rest of the stories. Could be wrong, but I can especially see that being the case if the epilogue was written by a different author than Into the Pit. I’ll have to look into it more!
@@TheChiptide Scott is the author of every story, as he stated in the 2nd interview with Dawko. He writes the basis of each story, anywhere from 10 to 15 pages, and has other authors flesh those out into something longer. So the plot of Into the Pit and the Stingers are both by Scott.
The way this literary uncovers the Game Omori is perfect! Despite being about Five Nights at Freddy’s and not Omori, but the explainable story of Omori (it’s already explained with the real world and dream world with him, but this further looks to the whole disscoiation and overactive imagination to the character of Sunny/Omori and the game itself.
Also I love this theory, if it was canon I would love that. Who knows
I think this theory makes a lot of sense compounded with the evidence that if you call Mom while at Freddy’s, everything is treated as normal on her end which does not make ANY sense if you’re viewing it as everything happening to Oswald at Freddy’s is indeed happening in the past. With all the possible phone numbers, there’s no WAY this would be an oversight imo
This was so fascinating!!! I knew a lot of people were debating whether the events were real or not. I personally like to think that they're real, and that everyone seeing his dad normally is a result of some supernatural aspect. I really dig this explanation too, though!! It makes a lot of sense!! Thanks for taking the time to talk about it! 😊
I think its been said that all the books are the writers guessing what scott intended based off of some clues, so id say that the game is probably more accurate (except the parts changed so that the game wasnt boring)
I do wonder how this changes if we looked at Oswald being ND/having AuDHD?
- The sensory intensity is dialed to 11
- Having been bullied for so long (let me just phrase it as what it is; he is being harassed, tormented, put through hell by his peers on a daily basis at school, with little to no escape)
- Dealing with his new/dual reality in a very practical manner; being able to figure out a solution to a situation is to go back and get an item, even if it means facing the yellow rabbit again.
- Everyone thinks he's just crazy/having a day dream (not only dismissing him/what hes saying, but ridicule him for it)
When something is presented as "just a dream", its with the connocation that its not anything to worry about after you wake up/its trivial.
Its a conditional explanation; that it ends and fades away once you wake up.
But for some NDs, they simply do not have an erasable whiteboard for dreams.
How do we help Oswald in this case;
As you said, gaining new friends who can support him, show him that he can be brave for others, if not for himself.
And when he succeds, the monster tries once again to attack, but are caught on the ropes of the pit. (Nice Tarzan reference by the way)
Oswald got his dad out of there, and the monster is defeated.
He'll most likely have these memories and trauma with him for the rest of his life, but by giving him the support thats right for him (and that he wants, at his own pace); he may expand on the positive sides of his life, gaining the strength and support to fight Pit Trap should it ever come back.
GREAT THEORY! GREAT VIDEO
Ok then in a world where people are perfectly willing to rip out their teeth for a science project them not believing a kid when he says his dad is acting strange is perfectly normal and not suspect at all toward the supernatural within the setting…
How does the sketchbook that Gabrielle gives Oswald from her grandfather fit into all of this?
I honestly WISH this was what happened in the story. I'm one of those few people who actually really loves psychological horror in the sense of "none of it was real, his psyche was broken", yknow granted it's actually well written and there are clues along the way that something is off. It'd also totally distinguish the book from the games' canon so we weren't debating over whether ghost magic can make entire living creatures out of Agony and why a ghost magic rabbit mimicking a serial killer would replace a kid's dad for fun.
It also makes sense considering this is one of the only Frights that ends very happily; there was never actually a physical threat and Oz overcoming his mental struggles "killed" the evil and "brought back" his dad, who never left
I think that the main issue I have with this theory, comes down to the phrasing from the psychological discipline vs the intensity Oswald [the one suffering from them] experiences.
Dissociative Fantasy is perhaps the simplest explanation, but its connotation are infantalizing
(Which is a big problem in the field of psycology when it comes to accurately portraying/explaining phenomenons like the ball pit)
From the second he emerges from the ball pit, Oswald is floodes with sensory overload from everything around him thats now changed.
He has to figure out what the hell is going on, and is critical of his surroundings/struggle wirh coming to terms with the new reality he finds himself in.
(Yes, it becomes an escape from his isolated normality, but everything he experiendes while being in 1985, is as real as outside of it.)
Then as the positive interactions happens, Oswald finally gets a few good memories and experiences from being there.
But, as soon as Pit Trap emerges, Oswald's "fantasy" is nothing short of a hellish nightmare that not only takes away the fun and safety of the place, but also follows him out of the pit.
From the moment Pit Trap emerges from the Pit, and kidnapping his dad, Oswald does everything he can to save his dad from the monster.
So not only has his new safe space been breached, but its spreading to every other part of his day-to-day.
For Oswald, this isnt a dream. This is the worst nightmare he's ever had, and it just wont stop. No one seems to take him seriously, so it is up to him to find a way to fix this.
Is it technically a fantasy? Yes, or at least for everyone else it looks that way.
Does it feel like a dream?
It operates on Dream Logic; suddenly you have the coins you wanted/needed
But until you wake up, and have the support to ground yourself; what you life through *IS* real.
TLDR;
I agree that it is perhaps technically a dream, but we still need to view it from his POV; being tormented by a monster that causes an extreme amount of trauma in such a short time.
And for those who are ND (+ the environments he suffers from); the things he experiences in the pit, gives him PTSD. Whether or not it is "actually" happening is irrelevant. Because he has been chased by this child-killing monster, and that doesn’t change until he finds a way to rescue his dad and defeat this thing.
(Sorry for the long TLDR)
Abby also drew the characters and was friends with the spirits before the events of the movie.
I think spirits can just dream walk lol.
About the cat thing, I'm not sure if there is any research on it, but in my experience cats can change their behaviour towards someone based on the behaviour etc of someone they're bonded to. Basically a case of "I don't like you because my friend doesn't like you"
Yay part 2!
I'm still ok with the idea that everything the boy sees is caused by agony in the ball pit. All of the scenes in the past are basically just a fever dream induced by the spirits of the Dead kids. Of course that doesn't mean that it's impossible for the father to have actually been possessed by something and the current day activities are all actually happening for real!
So, what you're saying is that Fazbear's is actually Oswald's Palace from Persona 5.
Also the story is heavily implying Freddy’s was a real place that his dad knew about and was involved in.
6:11 as a moon knight fan I saw that coming a mile away
You know, until the fact that the token start manifesting in his pockets, I was going to suggest another (frankly kinda absurd) aspect from the books that is brought up in passing in the video games: the Sea Bonnies. Given some of the aspects we've seen manifested by these parasitic microbials _COULD_ possibly suggest an influence on Oswald's subconscious to the point that he could accurately depict the Freddy Fazbear's crew, especially with several decades of unobserved evolution in the egregiously disgusting conditions of an abandoned ball pit
I appreciate the specificity of the wrestling references shows how much it is also a passion for ya!
I assume the time travel to the past is ghost induced hallucinations similar to The Shining or Ghost Ship
As someone with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly Multiple Personality Disorder) and MADD (Maladaptive Daydreaming Disorder), I wanted to jump in with some corrections and additions about dissociative disorders. Dissociation is not specifically linked to trauma by itself. Everyone dissociates to some degree, often called „zoning out”. Some people just dissociate so much it impairs life and becomes a disability or disorder. 75% of the population have experienced derealization/depersonalitzation, forms of dissociation, in their life and many people often don’t know that’s what they are experiencing/have experienced. What you are describing in your theory it sounds more like MADD than DID, which are very different but can have some overlap. „Dissociative fantasies” as you call them and MADD can both include themes of trauma peeking through to these „stories” people make up, just like how kids with trauma will act out their trauma in play to process it (Bluey episode Copycat shows this well). Trauma is not confirmed scientifically to be the cause of dissociation and DID, because it is obviously unethical to test this. Dissociative fantasies doesn’t inherently change to represent outer experiences, the example you used of a castle when feeling scared for example, oftentimes the fantasies can look like anything or represent anything, or just simply be a secondary inner place to retreat too. Dissociative fantasies can feel very real. Dissociative disorders are not considered *that* rare, 1.5% may sound like a small amount but that is a lot of people and remember it only accounts for diagnosed cases of DID and doesn’t include any other dissociative disorder. Neurodivergence, which has high rates of comorbid conditions or can often the direct cause of dissociation (example, ptsd) is estimated at 15-20% of the population. That is around the same amount of the population estimated to have intersex variation, has red hair or green eyes. I am impressed with the amount of research done on dissociative disorders and dissociation though, as people often just see dissociative disorders, DID and OSDD1 specifically, as scifi, creepy or frame the narrative in a stigmatising way.
How can a dream be reflective of events you didn't know happened in a time period before you were born in a place you've never been(a real place canonically by the way). Freddy's exists within the books, its an actual place with continuity stretching across multiple stories and if this was his dream everything in every other story connected to this one would have to also be his dream not anyone else's dream and if it is someone else's dream in which Freddy's exists that implies either HE made freddy's real or that it was always real.
Actually Into Pit is most likely a game inside the FNAF universe. Like FNAF help wanted
Wait so how'd he Pull a Full on Rat Into the Real world?
Great theory! keep up the good work.
The glitch over your mouth at the start, that audio scared the Isht out of me 😂
this is such a great interpretation
Personally I view the book version as being canon to the book universe, and the game version is canon to the main game timeline
makes sence
Foxy is the answer.
afton kinda stinks
He spent 30 years in a run down Pizzeria inside a springlock suit, walled in a room. Are you surprised?
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all in le head
UA-camr HyperDroid claims to have solved the Foxy grid. Could you check that out?
HyperDroid's solution is pretty good, but I'm actually waiting on another smaller UA-camr to make a video on a solution that I think is better. A couple months ago I got an email with literally the most air tight solution I've ever seen that perfectly explains both the tally marks and the foxy grid, and got a name that nobody has suggested yet, but makes a lot of sense in hindsight. The kid who sent it to me asked that I not share it with anyone yet because he wanted to make his own video on it, but here we are 2 months later and he hasn't spoken a word of it! So I'm 99% sure I know the name of the Crying Child, but I can't tell anyone!
@@TheChiptide Talk about suspenseful… I’m eagerly anticipating the video! If it’s as airtight as you think it is I could not be more excited lol
I'm the 40!
Herobrine in fnaf real
Im second somehow
Ok then in a world where people are perfectly willing to rip out their teeth for a science project them not believing a kid when he says his dad is acting strange is perfectly normal and not suspect at all toward the supernatural within the setting…