You also gain favour leveling alts, I did 1-50 without even looking at it and reached observatory with 18k favour. Also you gain favour spending it on prophecies at a rate higher than 1:1
Just a random datapoint but I'm at Rank 9 CoF and did a 3 XP tome echo (at 382 corruption if that's relevant, I don't know if it scales). It gave 1,059,900 XP for the 3 and 1413 Favor. Which works out to 750.1 XP per favor gained.
@ZiggyDGaming I did some testing / math further to your discoveries and found that the XP tome echo reward actually gives MORE LOOT than any other echo reward when converted to favor then items via prophecies. Basically 1413 favor is roughly equivalent to 2 ish uniques baseline, or up to 4.5 ish with lenses + R10 CoF. What this means is that even after you hit level 100 XP echos are still the best choice by far. I'm not going to plug my video on yours but if you are interested I uploaded a video explaining the math and also made an interactive spreadsheet to plug your own numbers in; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jS3qm0Sl59qbzWI34uFwKJLaO-2JrAFdAAHmTSMWjzI/edit?usp=sharing Thanks for all your great content over the years ZiggyD, including PoE of course :)
I don't think lower level farming for favour would be an issue. At least for the CoF. Because campaign prophecies are specific (kill X boss) and mono prophecies are more generic (and plentiful). There are also prophecies that require a certain corruption. So doing monos you're farming favour for new prophecies and completing the ones you have at the same time
stacking XP gain from monoliths and full clearing when at 120% xp gives a ton of favor. if you can stack it higher then even better but i could only ever get to 120% extra xp before one of the bonus would fall off
I know this is a late anwser and you probably already found your anwser. But anyways, I joined CoF and did 2 side quests after and got to rank 2 and some favour, like 700.
So now there is a reason to do Tomes of XP echoes. I usually ignored them as the amount of xp you get was negligible. I hit rank 4 CoF earlier tonight but it is gonna be a long grind.
I haven't watched your video yet, but I just reported a bug to Last Epoch as when doing the prophecy mechanic, I've had it give me a completely different prophecy than the one I selected, multiple times.
Do you think its worth saving up favour for when you're in empowered monos? I think if you wait you would have better chances of good base types and higher tier affixes no?
I think campaign favor farming is fine, you're missing out on the rewards from farming Echos if you choose to do it like that. Blessings, Affix Shards, Sigils, Glyphs, Exalted items, etc. It's just not worth the loss in loot.
Does it even really matter if they farm campaign for it? They'd be missing out on stuff from farming higher areas, so it would seem to balance out anyway.
Why is it not good for the game if people farm the campaign? It's their game, If they're playing how they want, what does it matter? how will it effect you? I like that you can Join factions on brand new alts and start earning favor on them. I also like to get strong and kill things really fast, so Obviously killing lower level mobs is fun to me. I really don't understand how that's bad for the game
It's not good when people feel compelled to do something less fun because it's efficient. Developers have to work to make sure that the fun parts of the game are the most rewarding to save people from themselves as players will optimise their fun away (they can't help it)
cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!!! THANKSSSSSSS!!!1 i need it so badly hahahaha~ ALSO MAKING SECOND+ CHARACTERS IS SO PAINFUL WHEN MY BIS GEAR FARMING ON THE strarter ends up requiring me to FARM THE FAVOR IN COF AGAIN ON THE ALT???? so i need atleast rank 6 to enjoy the ultimate fruits of my degeneracy hahahaha BUT EVEN JUST FOR A PRIMARY BUILD ITS SO MUCH FUN TO EXPERIENCE IT!
I mean, I love the game but haven't played for a few years until now. The placement of this feature alongside the lackluster explanation is kinda putrid dog-watah; "here look into these telescope thingies which you don't have enough score to affect anyway but we're gonna give you a quest that tells you to use 'em without explaining where the points come from" 😅
Sorry but not usefull at all :( This is for people already played the game, and know what the fork it is you are talking about. New players than have to look up other guides to figure out what the heck xxxx and zzzz is... so yeah NOT helpfull at all..
@@riftis2210some of us bought it for the promise of online play with friends, I am so tired of seeing this dumb ass response, we are 5 days in and the game is still fundamentally broken.
@@naummw6328 well seems a lot of people agree with my opinion to each there own bro but to me it’s definitely a horrible game if u want a good arpg play grim dawn
You also gain favour leveling alts, I did 1-50 without even looking at it and reached observatory with 18k favour. Also you gain favour spending it on prophecies at a rate higher than 1:1
Do you need to group with someone to tp the alt to Maj'elka to join the faction first?
@@yle_coyote4178no, I could join the circle with my 2nd char in the first town (travellers‘ camp I think is the name)
@@yle_coyote4178 no, at the first town the faction leaders are there so you can join your faction from the beginning.
Het dud im a new plaaye. What is “alts”?
@@WarlordSuperbius it means alternate character, A new character/build.
Great video. Just in time when I started messing around with the CoF faction.
I went out and bought a lot of prophecies and never expected to get so much loot from a boss kill. Fun time
Excellent guide!
I'm past level 67 and would like to know how to continue the progression of the skill tree, please.
Great guide. Thanks for the help and taking your time to collect data.
Appreciated
Just a random datapoint but I'm at Rank 9 CoF and did a 3 XP tome echo (at 382 corruption if that's relevant, I don't know if it scales). It gave 1,059,900 XP for the 3 and 1413 Favor. Which works out to 750.1 XP per favor gained.
1400 favor per is nutty haha rank 10 is pretty cracked for sure.
@ZiggyDGaming I did some testing / math further to your discoveries and found that the XP tome echo reward actually gives MORE LOOT than any other echo reward when converted to favor then items via prophecies. Basically 1413 favor is roughly equivalent to 2 ish uniques baseline, or up to 4.5 ish with lenses + R10 CoF.
What this means is that even after you hit level 100 XP echos are still the best choice by far.
I'm not going to plug my video on yours but if you are interested I uploaded a video explaining the math and also made an interactive spreadsheet to plug your own numbers in; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jS3qm0Sl59qbzWI34uFwKJLaO-2JrAFdAAHmTSMWjzI/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks for all your great content over the years ZiggyD, including PoE of course :)
If you’re with merchants faction, then just run the hardest content you can to get the best drops to sell.
I don't think lower level farming for favour would be an issue. At least for the CoF. Because campaign prophecies are specific (kill X boss) and mono prophecies are more generic (and plentiful). There are also prophecies that require a certain corruption. So doing monos you're farming favour for new prophecies and completing the ones you have at the same time
751exp is one favour
stacking XP gain from monoliths and full clearing when at 120% xp gives a ton of favor. if you can stack it higher then even better but i could only ever get to 120% extra xp before one of the bonus would fall off
What about completing "leftover" quests from the campaign? I've ignored them after I finished my Idol stash and the skill points.
I know this is a late anwser and you probably already found your anwser.
But anyways, I joined CoF and did 2 side quests after and got to rank 2 and some favour, like 700.
So now there is a reason to do Tomes of XP echoes. I usually ignored them as the amount of xp you get was negligible. I hit rank 4 CoF earlier tonight but it is gonna be a long grind.
I have noticed that completing Prophecies, gives a boat load of favor!
I haven't watched your video yet, but I just reported a bug to Last Epoch as when doing the prophecy mechanic, I've had it give me a completely different prophecy than the one I selected, multiple times.
Do you think its worth saving up favour for when you're in empowered monos? I think if you wait you would have better chances of good base types and higher tier affixes no?
Only up to the point where you could spend it to rank up - rank up if you can as those bonuses are insane.
@@ZiggyDGaming I must have totally missed that you can spend favor to rank anything up. I'll have to look into that when I log on, thanks my man!
I think campaign favor farming is fine, you're missing out on the rewards from farming Echos if you choose to do it like that. Blessings, Affix Shards, Sigils, Glyphs, Exalted items, etc. It's just not worth the loss in loot.
Does it even really matter if they farm campaign for it? They'd be missing out on stuff from farming higher areas, so it would seem to balance out anyway.
Thanks for the vid
is there any rep gain in fullfilling a prophecy?
If you get EXP from them, then yes since the favor increases from exp only
Ziggy!!! :)
Tfw I farmed 80k favor thinking you need to accumulate it to boost your rank, oh well got a load to spend now!
How can you join cof or mg?
Chapter 9 near the end of the campaign you'll get a quest - can't miss it.
Why is it not good for the game if people farm the campaign? It's their game, If they're playing how they want, what does it matter? how will it effect you? I like that you can Join factions on brand new alts and start earning favor on them. I also like to get strong and kill things really fast, so Obviously killing lower level mobs is fun to me. I really don't understand how that's bad for the game
It's not good when people feel compelled to do something less fun because it's efficient. Developers have to work to make sure that the fun parts of the game are the most rewarding to save people from themselves as players will optimise their fun away (they can't help it)
ahh gotcha that makes sense @@ZiggyDGaming
cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!!! THANKSSSSSSS!!!1 i need it so badly hahahaha~ ALSO MAKING SECOND+ CHARACTERS IS SO PAINFUL WHEN MY BIS GEAR FARMING ON THE strarter ends up requiring me to FARM THE FAVOR IN COF AGAIN ON THE ALT???? so i need atleast rank 6 to enjoy the ultimate fruits of my degeneracy hahahaha BUT EVEN JUST FOR A PRIMARY BUILD ITS SO MUCH FUN TO EXPERIENCE IT!
They should add .25% favor gain for every minute sitting in a connecting screen lol
Dear god so many words to say a single thing over and over. That could have been a 30 second video.
I mean, I love the game but haven't played for a few years until now. The placement of this feature alongside the lackluster explanation is kinda putrid dog-watah; "here look into these telescope thingies which you don't have enough score to affect anyway but we're gonna give you a quest that tells you to use 'em without explaining where the points come from" 😅
ps. Great video, thanks for clearing things up!
suffice to say
Word of the day 😅
Sorry but not usefull at all :(
This is for people already played the game, and know what the fork it is you are talking about. New players than have to look up other guides to figure out what the heck xxxx and zzzz is... so yeah NOT helpfull at all..
Great guide for an unplayable game!
its playable in offline mode
@@riftis2210some of us bought it for the promise of online play with friends, I am so tired of seeing this dumb ass response, we are 5 days in and the game is still fundamentally broken.
You think this guy can fix it? Go outside.
Works fine for me, I'm level 92, online.
Level 74 online Warlock
game is completely trash
your opinion is trash
Thank you for your opinion
his opinion is incorrect tho
@@GG-jg6py ur welcome
@@naummw6328 well seems a lot of people agree with my opinion to each there own bro but to me it’s definitely a horrible game if u want a good arpg play grim dawn