Wanted - Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2019
- A rare documentary shown in 1993. Intriguing. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid were once the most wanted men in the West. They are thought to have fled South America, but what happened after that? Dr. Clyde Snow, the celebrated forensic anthropologist exhumes two bodies in Bolivia. But are they the legendary outlaws?
Dr. Clyde Snow earned his reputation tracking down missing people from their bones. Intrigued by the different stories he heard about Butch and Sundance, he teamed up with two outlaw historians and began an investigation which would eventually lead him to a remote Bolivian mining village, high in the Andes.
Did the outlaws die in a hail of Bolivian bullets, as the movie portrays, or did they live out their lives peacefully? Will the Sherlock Homes of Bones succeed in this case? He’s going to give it his best shot. After all, this is one of the last great mysteries of the American West.
I don't own the rights, this film may be removed if requested. Originally broadcast on UK TV 1993.
If the Pinkerton's said Butch didn't die in Bolivia and continued to search for them I believe that they didn't get killed in Bolivia
The pinkerton's were going to milk this pursuit for as long as possible at the expense of the R.R. Of course the 2 didn't perish.
I've just watched this & my immediate thought when I saw the monument in the Bolivian cemetery was "Why would the god-fearing locals put a monument with a plaque and cross on it on the graves of 2 known outlaws/bandits?" IMHO, the locals would've buried them in unmarked graves, possibly in unconsecrated ground. This thought was reinforced when the local said that the cross & plaque "had fallen off".
Scenario: "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" film is a box office success & its ending makes it possible to believe that they met their end in St. Vincente, Bolivia. In 1973, someone came asking around the village & this marked grave was pointed out to this person. Cross & plaque were then removed from the monument sometime afterwards & now the grave of a miner or owner becomes a place of pilgrimage for fans of the film & history hunters. However someone forgot that that visitor in 1973 took photos of the monument, complete with its inscription in *German.* Perhaps all this is a money-spinning scheme by someone in that village or region?
All of this is my own supposition & does not in any way detract from the serious scientific research and findings in this film, nor does it take anything away from my thorough enjoyment of Hollywood's portrayal of these 2 characters.
Nice comment! I like your proposed graveyard scenario 😉
IMO the claim that at least Butch Cassidy did not die in Bolivia has a certain amount of credibility since his own family said that he visited them frequently. Lula Parker, who made this claim when she was already a respected old lady,, was still a baby when her brother left the family in order to pursue the career path of a successful outlaw. She would not have been able to tell if the guy who eventually turned up on the family's door step, really was her long lost brother. But her father, who was still alive, and a bunch of other more law abiding brothers seem to have accepted the surprise visitor as a family member. And since they all kept quiet and no one tried to become famous for 15 minutes or make money with this sensational story, there doesn't seem to be an obvious motive for a fraud.
There have always been people who claimed to be a famous outlaw. The most notorious case might be the guy who was called Brushy Bill Roberts. He claimed that he was Billy the Kid, and that he had somehow survived being shot at by Pat Garrett. But while his story had more holes than a Swiss cheese, he got a bit of fame and attention before he died. Some people still believe that tall tale, although members of the Roberts family who knew Brushy Bill, have debunked this story. But the story of Butch Cassidy's alleged homecoming was kept under the rug for many decades. If the family had really been fooled by an impostor, the guy must've been content with having gained no more than the love and attention of the Parker family. That's of course not impossible - but it would be untypical.
So glad i found this on you tube
My grandmother was Marsha miner butch was my kin Butch painted a ceiling in beaver Utah Grandma told me many stories about butch.
Butch settled further north than Bolivia adopting the persona of another comrade from the hole in the wall, set himself up in business as a landlord with a property portfolio and operated a small but successful retail outlet married a young local girl raised a family. Lived through both world wars and died peacefully at home in the late forties. For the sake of his surviving family I WILL NOT reveal any further details. I have no knowledge of how he got to the home he settled in but have to assume it was by the way of the old Inca road along the Andes. Of course he may have travel by boat, having sufficient funds to set himself up in business one assumes he had enough funds to travel by boat, either east down the Amazon or west up the Pacific coast.
I have lived in Cholila there still the Bus Cassidy Ranch, a wonderful place, I would believe that the life of these outlaws marked the great progress of the Wild West.
Started watching this at 3 a.m. and enjoyed every minute of it. The saying goes, And now you know the rest of the story.
Thank you for posting this documentary. I've been looking for this for over 10 years, since I last saw it in Bolivia while I was traveling there. I went to San Vicente and visited the graveyard and to dead cow hill where the robbery took place. Happy memories.
Why on earth would they got back to gun slinging after the ranch. ? And where did the woman go. ?
They ain’t there! Promise.
He's in Utah we're he was born. His sister told local friends before she passed. Supposedly with his mom and sister. He's not in south america
The US version of "Wanted: Butch & Sundance," which broadcast 12 October 1993, on PBS as part of the NOVA series, was 60 minutes, so this 117 minute version must be the UK version, which broadcast on Channel 4 in London about the same time. For the story of the events surrounding the making of the documentary, see Anne Meadows, Digging Up Butch & Sundance (University of Nebraska Press: rev. ed., 2003). Meadows and I were involved with the project, which spanned 1991 to 1993.
Correction, 77 minute version, not 117 minute.
and boring as hell,too much footage on the digging.wonder what they did with the guns and clothing
@@12dbuck1 This is indeed the UK TV version.
@@-elchoya9832 dumbass
I watched this excellent doc on PBS in '93, videotaped it the next time it aired, had it for several years, lost it in a move, and looked for it online for several years and finally gave up, until today So thank you for the upload!
My pleasure. it's getting rave reviews, so I'm pleased to host it.
Holy shit, I can't believe this is finally on YT. Great documentary but I've mostly been wanting to see this again because there's a piece of music in here I'll never forget and haven't heard in 20+ years. Thank you!
Timestamp??
@@addamz3277 6:51 I especially like when it goes electric at 7:37. Also plays over the end credits. Very nice solo guitar at 3:33 too.
I personally think that Sundance did die in Bolivia but butch did not the man was too intelligent to allow himself to be cornered like that given his sister said the he came back to visit her and the family
loved it thank you
Worked at that prison museum. Wyoming territorial prison. They have a new addition all about butch and has the safe in there
You're missing a clue there. That woman that inquired after two gringos in Bolivia had to be Etta Place. No matter what the name on the letter was. Tell me you checked her out. Etta disappeared from history after she went back to the states...
I watched this great documentary when it was originally broadcast in 1993 on PBS. Superb documentary on the search for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. What an amazing mystery of what actually became of them that is as well as the unsolved mystery of whatever became of Etta Place the girlfriend of the Sundance Kid? The last reliable information places her in San Francisco in 1906 or 1907. At the start of this documentary, Clyde Snow should have mentioned his name and how many years up to 1993 he had been a forensic anthropologist.
So here’s what happened. Sundance settled in San Francisco where he opened a haberdashery with his constant companion Eduardo. Butch moved to Connecticut where he sold popcorn and salad dressing at local race tracks. Etta dated a football player and caused a distraction in the stands by living her best life. Dr Clyde Snow died from emphysema at the age of 24 three years after this documentary.
Great doco! :)
I don’t think they died there. Too much of a rookie move to go back to that town so soon and so close to their last heist. And leave your rifles out of reach? In the US they dodged local law, US Marshall’s, Pinkertons and Charlie Siringo for years No way they make that big of a mistake in Bolivia. Butch and the Kid got the last laugh
After the departure of Eda Place. The boy's adventures in Bolivia started to change for the worse.
Wow, that picture of Butch looks nothing like I imagined... I thought he'd look more like Paul Newman.
Great Butch n Sundance documentary video ever made , however ,the bandits 're still in at large
Their dead by now
@@-elchoya9832 Are you sure? Heard some have seen them in Italy!
I love these guys all smoking cigs real old school . They look at it as if it takes 10 years off there life so be it they lived life there way.
An old man once said sonny don’t ever grow old.
I heard the same. At least it’s the last 10 years. So what will you miss the drooling stage?
What an amazing documentary, Clyde Snow was a real Indiana Jones.
Thanks to David’s Adam’s which I love of all his documentaries “ Timeline “ he brought me to this story.
I don't think they died there. Butch's sister was alive yet in 1968& swore he escaped south America & returned to the states. She even argued with Paul Newman & Robert Redford on the movie set
Same thing my grandmother told me. My family is related to butch. I was told that butch was somewhat of an artist. He painted a ceiling mural in a house in Beaver Utah.
Supposedly Butch is buried on the family homestead. Supposedly only his sister knew where he was buried. One person claimed that he was buried under the cabin he was born in which had a dirt floor. And another claimed his sister had him cremated and his ashes scattered in the cabin or around the family farm. And The Sundance Kid Supposedly is buried under the name Hiram Bibi, not sure I spelled that correctly. There's a video about him on UA-cam I can't recall where he was supposed to be buried.
His sister pretty much told locals that she was friends with that he's buried in walking distance from her home. She said her father Maximilian, said his son was chased all his life and he was finally able to rest in peace. He told the family to not say we're he's buried because they will try to dig him up. Some say he's buried with his mom and sister. Sounds rite to me
@@plymouthduster225 I have heard the same except maybe he's buried with them. He's definitely in utah..Jerry skinner has a great yt channel and does a hell of a job of research ing and going to the families homes
@@mikefitzpatrick43 yes I'm subscribed to his channel. I watched a video awhile back that was about the Sundance Kid. He is supposed to be buried under the name Hiram Bebe. I can't remember the name of that video at the moment.
non troverete mai dove sta riposando in pace.
Lololll they rode right up to that ledge!!!
1:05 been there many times. Awesome place.
Based upon evidence available at this old codger's time. RL parker and H longbaugh did not die in San Vicente. Based upon what Parker's sister said when she said he showed up at the family ranch in the 1920s. He told her that he and Longbaugh split up and agreed to meet in Juarez in 3 months. He said Longbaugh never showed. There are even some post San Vicente photos that clearly show Parker. Most people here in Utah believe that he lived his final years incognito in central Utah, close to his family under an alias. Rumor is that he died in 1937 of pneumonia and was buried near his childhood home. Harry Longbaugh is a mystery. A man in his 90s died of old age in the Utah State Penitentiary. His name was Hyrum Hyrum Beebe. Imprisoned in his late 80s early 90s for murder he spent his final months writing and exchanging letters with the Longbaugh family.
Butch and Sundance gave that mule to the german and the swede... so they got into that firefight and died...
@@pilsatortube evidence for that please?
@@tballstaedt7807 nah sorry , thats my best guess cause they said the two were identified by the mule and at the end the shorter guy shot the taller guy in the forhead... Zimmer had the forhead shot off and the metal pieces from the bullet in the skull! So its a case of mixed up identity.... I can imaging Butch and Sundance thought lets take the mule with us and set the other two gringos up... then rode away from that place
@@pilsatortube according to Lula Bentensen Buch's younger sister who lived until 1980. Buch told her when he secretly visited the family in the 1920s that he told her that a mine superintendent who befriended them who know their real identities and their desire to get off the outlaw trail purposely misidentified the bodies as a favor. Butch also told her that he and Sundance split up and agreed to meet in Juarez in one month. Butch made it to Juarez but Sundance never showed. He said he never saw Sundance again. She says Butch died in 1937 of tuberculosis and is buried in a secret grave.
@@tballstaedt7807 thanks for sharing!!
Anyone have a date for this project?
Did the bones go back?
Filmed way back in 1991 and 1992 by a UK production company. Clyde Snow has long departed r.i.p.
He died in Utah. His sister told locals this before she died. They never exactly said we're because the dad Maximilian said his son was chased all his life and he finally gets to rest in peace. He new they would dig his grave up. The sister said he was in walking distance from her home. Some say they put his ashes in the family plot
But some sources said his sis admitted she was only telling a good story when she said all that.
I agree with dallas she told a million different stories remember butch was 16 years older than her she never saw him never met him
Just wrote her book after the movie came out and he was back in limelight y didnt she write her book in 20s or 30s or 40s or 50s ? Exactly she was a phony
This is not movie but documentary ?
That old dude with the hat will smoke with ‘ya.
Love that he’s smoking a cigarette the whole time and during the exhumation especially.
While watching this and coming near the end, more or less when they were doing the skull comparison, an Idea came to my mind and it's that rumours and Butch's sister said that he had gone back home, but had anyone seen the Sundance kid back in the states?, Cause I've been thinking that maybe they did go together to Bolivia, but later Butch might of gotten tired of the life and home sick and decided to go back home, but the Kid didn't want to do that so they separated and later on the kid joined up with another outlaw or someone who had already gone with them and these two were the ones who got shot in Bolivia and Butch is buried in the States. This is just an idea I've had, nothing else.
He's buried in Utah. The sister pretty much said this to local friends. That father Maximilian said his son was chased all his life and he finally can rest in peace. He new they would dig his grave up. Some say his ashes are buried rite in the family plot
I agree! If one of the two outlaws survived his Bolivian period, it’s far more likely that it was Butch Cassidy. There have been very credible reports from family members that Butch had visited them frequently after his alleged death in Bolivia. There is no reason to assume that these family members were lying. They were religious mormons, and they never used these tales for making money or because they wanted to be in the spotlight. It's also highly unlikely that they have been fooled by a con man. There was nothing to gain for an impostor. Some neighbors have confirmed these rumours. Butch Cassidy might have been one of only very few outlaws who managed to disappear and die peacefully.
This is far less likely for the Sundance Kid. There are no credible reports that he returned from Bolivia. And if he really was the gringo in that grave, the idea that he had another partner after Butch Cassidy went back to the states, is not far fetched at all.
@@mikefitzpatrick43 , yes, I have also heard that family members claimed to have been frequently visited by Butch Cassidy. These claims ring true, because nobody ever tried to gain anything from this story.
I totally agree and thanks, like I have said Butch most probably lived out his days in the States and it was the kid who got shot in Bolivia.
I had even once watched the UA-cam channel from the TV show guys Diesel Brothers and they had gone to a cabin I think in Utah somewhere in the desert where Butch apparently had lived and probably where he was buried, but saying that I've also heard somewhere that he and his mother share a grave.
Well Sheeit ! I just spent an hour to find out they don't know sheeit.
If Butch returned Elzy Lay was the one to know.
Obviously this is from the 80 or 90’s, but I wonder what they would find with our technology in 2021
What happened to a persons ‘final resting place’. No one expects to be dug up once ‘laid to rest’ do they? Lol. 🤔
Died defrosting dynamite in an oven? I laughed so hard I had to stop the video.
I doubt if Butch would approve of how his name changed it's meaning...
ahh yeah, but that's new sex identity for ya , not even counting gender dysphoria and woke
Very Interesting documentary, just a pity they couldn't figure out the identity of the German & the Swede. Who Are Those Guys ?.
SVEN COSSIDY and THE WILHEIM KID
There was no such person as George Parker. Little Bobby Parker was named after his grandpa Robert. Robert Parker is my 2nd g.grandfather-I'm named after him too! He hated being called Bobby as Bobby was a girls name.
I just love that accent.UK
Wow, Butchs sister said Butch came back to Utah
A coffin ? Where does the wood come from there’s not a tree in sight ? Seems like they would just dump them in a hole.
Buch and Sundance sold that Mule to the German and the Swede and got away unharmed :) its pretty obvious and was a smart checker move...
Robert LeRoy Parker was a Utah Mormon and decided that the LDS way of life was too austere and dull.. He like women and taking risk.
Oh fucking please.
주인공 세분을 참 좋아하는데. 늙어서 그런지. 생각이 안나요.
did you ever get chased by the police ?
Just hope they offered up enough for the dead
Paul Newman is alive and well! He must have had a Med Bed!
1:08:31,wow,he walks like the sundance kid,so that skeleton must be the sundance kid.good detective work sherlock
dna prooved otherwise
@@pilsatortube not 100%
You missed a big clue that might be helpful.
Smoking cancer sticks = wrinkled face, older face, shorter life, vast expense, and much more. Smoke on!
40:45
Supposedly the pair left their rifles, against the wall...OUTSIDE?
So they were idiots?
NO WAY!!!
The thing was, Butch was also good with a revolver or a pistol. But who knows where his gunbelt was at the time. Either way, guys coming in would be dead if they dared.
These remains look as if they did not die in combat, but were rather executed after being captured.
En français svp merci WB ??
내일을 향해 쏴라. 음악 폴리스. 임재범 동생이
매우 좋아해요.
They got em they were there !! One skull came up shot in the forehead that was sundance and butch shot himself under chin they are there case closed !!
A chain smoking Dr. Plus they didn't even wear gloves when touching the remains. So unprofessional! To top it all off, it's unsolved! A waste of time!!!
Shut up Karen.
넌 픽션 같은 영화. 알아여.
거의ㅡ우정의 끝이었는데.
sponsored by camel haha lol
Not very good documentary. I think one of the pairs sisters told it all, when she said they both died of old age. I believe her. The Dr lives in a fantasy world. Chain smokers not very clean.
Let me guess , this guy died of lung cancer lol
Jim Sweeney that rude I’m related to butch cassdy
Anneka Lunn it wasn’t aimed at him , I was talking about the chain smoking professor
For Truth I’m related to butch cassdy
@@annekalunn8567 Who cares. Keep saying it and you might believe it.
Que pena hablan en ingles...
this is lousy.
Little research, and no research.
First problems when he goes to Laramie, goes thru the prison an says ,
' if you can't do the time don't do the crime ,
they haven't researched or they would have mentioned that butch didn't commit the crime he was convincted of, he was framed , lied about by rich ranchers. and the mistakes go on untill at least half way thru when I stop watching.
Lousy documentary, poor research
I just do not see the point of digging up all these bones, ESP the people on the top sides, just for the sake of your curiosity. Absolutely no respect for the dead here. Bye. Maybe you can make a scavengers buck here? Give nothing to the small village .
40:35 -41:10 makes this documentary needless to watch.
No Outlaws on the run after taking off with 15000 pesos leaving their riffles outside while eating and knowing they're wanted. Documentary debunked at that moment. Cassidy and Sundance gave the money and horses to the German and associate and headed back to the US. Sundance remains were later found in Utah. Sundance brought a farm in Utah and lived out the rest of his life after he killed Cassidy for all the money they stashed away before going to Argentina. Case CLOSED.
...And probably they met Billy the Kid (Brushy Bill Roberts) over a beer chatting too... :):):)
Absolutely ripper. I say the DNA test was wrong and that they have there the kid. Can anyine tell me why the DNA test has to be maternal. Is it because mitochondrial DNA lasts better?
Hybrid Bush / trump
So they digged up a grave of Zimmer under the grave stone of Zimmer expecting the 2 out law's wow bunch idiots then instead of swabbing the kid's relative's mouth they digged up someone else
Doubtful you watched the documentary at all. The grave site they excavated had been identified by a villager as the outlaws' grave, the only specific information about any grave in the cemetery. It was dig there or not at all. In the middle of the project, they received information that the grave marker had years earlier been posted with a plaque naming Gustav Zimmer as being buried there. They also had information from an American who worked in San Vicente in the 1920s that the outlaws had been buried near a German. They retrieved a number of bones from the site, some from an articulated skeleton (presumably Zimmer), and others from burials near and over skeleton, some of which were thought to be Caucasoid, but all of which later turned out to be indigenous. DNA tests later determined that none of the bones related to the Parker (Butch) or Longabaugh (Sundance) lines. Standard scientific procedure. Gather evidence, test it, arrive at a conclusion.
I just looked at the chronology of the events leading up to and following the December 1991 excavation at the San Vicente cemetery, a project I participated in. The information about Gustav Zimmer, in the form of a photograph of the grave marker showing a plaque with his name on it, was not provided to our forensic team until early 1992, after the excavation was already completed. The discovery of the Zimmer link to the grave was then incorporated into the investigation, as the documentary shows.
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What a waste of time.
6:15 😂