That riff at the end is so close to being a super catchy track. Definitely something there. Put a solid catchy vocal over it and it’s a pretty sweet unique hook. Love ya
I’m so happy you made this video Ben :D not sure if you know this, but Agustín Castilla-Ávila has been pioneering music made with AAAAAA tuning using 36-TET! Two other examples of people who do this are myself (Tenacious Chorale and 12 days of Christmas but more microtonal) and Mat Muntz (Cembalo Burro)
I've experimented with microtonal pianos for horror before, by doubling the piano, and putting two pitch shifters on one of them - tune it down in semitones, and then up in hertz, so that the pitches are all a little too close together. It sounds amazing.
For 24-edo metal easy mode, I'd also recommend tuning a regular guitar in neutral third intervals. It's not as flexible as a 24-fret per octave guitar, obviously, but you can still do quite a lot with it, it's easy to learn, and there's no investment required beyond the five minutes it takes to re-tune your instrument.
i really recommend using vital as synth because it can support every tunning file type and us very versatile synth overall. also site scale workshop lets you create any scale you want
I always liked tunings in style of DDAADD (transpose it higher or lower as you like). D, a D an octave higher, A in between the Ds, A an octave higher, same D as the higher one before, and a D an octave higher. I wanna build a 3/6 string guitar for that actually (3 doubled strings like in 12 string guitars you have 6 couples close to each other)... Great for shoegazey stuff and folk-ish stuff and so on. It's as if you had a massively broadened bottom half of a drop tuning and if wanted you technically can still pluck individual strings occasionally for some melodies and embellishments, but big chords is where it shines. I may do the "couples" a little more further apart from each other than on a 12 string to make plucking individual strings easier, but still close enough to easily pluck them as one as well. For now I was using it on a regular guitar with regular spacing. I was also considering getting a 12 string and make it AAEEAADDAADD so as if 2 guitars like that in one, one baritone and one regular, kinda like double necked guitars but crammed into a single neck. I may end up doing that first cause it would be cheaper than ordering an experimental custom made one and easier than making it a DIY project lol though imagine Fender Acoustasonic modded be like this 3/6 one like that, man...
Lmao a 5 minute video just demolished all my attempts at microtonal metal. I've tried using scripts to detune Shreddage 3 libraries, which either works great or is a buggy mess. In any case, I'll hopefully be dropping an album this fall.
Nice tutorial/demo as usual. However personally I feel it is somewhat illogical/criminal to use the keyboard for the microtonal part. String instruments like a guitar can be highly varied in their tuning which can create relative microtonal intervals just by tuning different on one guitar or even one string. And for the ultimate experience, embrace the absence of frets altogether. Just find a non precious guitar and take the frets off.
Fretless guitar is great, and so are alternate tunings. The method in this video is designed to make it very easy to be consistent and not need any special gear/guitars to pull off microtonal riffs.
a sludgy riffy noise rock band called Part Chimp from London uses guitars tuned all to B, very similar to your technique! the detuning between the different strings adds to the off-kilter quality. and the sound is just pummelling when they've got all the fuzzes turned on. well worth checking out. ua-cam.com/video/nBRU4AOEF68/v-deo.html
Hey Ben! Im currently at music school rn and often feel a sense of burnout and wanting to quit music, however, your videos remind me of the joy and creative spirit that made me fall in love with music. After watching your videos I always find myself wanting to write something new or just sit with my guitar. Thank you endlessly for you knowledge Ben!
Not quite, that would just be detuning one. One is a 48 tone octave and one is a standard 12 tone octave. When you go up 3 semitones on the 12 tone one, that’s 3/12th of an octave, meanwhile that’s 3/48th of an octave on the 48 tone one. You’re just dividing a normal octave range into more notes! I hope this helps ,’D
Alright, show's over, everyone. Shut it all down, every microtone must go. The king has decreed that 'microtonal sounds shit like ever'. The jig is up.
That was an incredible riff to write vocals to
You killed it dude
@@Lucas-lh8kgcame to say exact same thing
I really tried, Ben is awesome@@Lucas-lh8kg
@@Fabermorrow
Sounds fucking brutal dude!
Now I want a microntonal funk album.
Check out Ayyuka - Maslak Halayi
It's more of a funky psych rock album, but you might dig it
Xotla music literally has made exactly that (and lots of it)
Don’t we all. Would you accept microtonal acid? ua-cam.com/video/sbSRYxDJ1Os/v-deo.html
I love this. Very creative! xx
Ben how do you manage to pack so much fascinating stuff into a five-minute video? Unreal. So inspiring.
that was insaaaanely sick!!! love when you go heavy af Ben!! that was very Carbomb I love it!
That riff at the end is so close to being a super catchy track. Definitely something there. Put a solid catchy vocal over it and it’s a pretty sweet unique hook. Love ya
I’m so happy you made this video Ben :D not sure if you know this, but Agustín Castilla-Ávila has been pioneering music made with AAAAAA tuning using 36-TET! Two other examples of people who do this are myself (Tenacious Chorale and 12 days of Christmas but more microtonal) and Mat Muntz (Cembalo Burro)
I didn't know, thank you!
The riffs reminded me of Agent Fresco when they do their low tuned parts. Very neat.
Agent Fresco vibes definitely came through
Yep sounds like The Automn Red outro !
Step 1, find the ring modulator… 😂
It’s a great tune to present after “spring forward.” Thanks for sharing!
That all-A song at the end is super cool.
props to ben for tuning a guitar with a floyd rose to AAAAAA
AAAAAA is a great idea. Never thought about that. Need to try it now
Awesome approach to Microtonality! Love your work Ben!
This came out awesome!
I hope no one of those thall dudes will see this. You just gave them a weapon of mass destruction lmao.
That sounds so good with vocals !
Ben, only your channel is doing this kind of work. Good job!
You're an inspiration!
Very good, I'm about to get a 48EDO microtonal guitar, I'll test this out
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME BEN!!! x
Cool video. I always appreciate how you are just willing to try things out. I don't think I'll ever be used to anything outside of twelve tone music
I've experimented with microtonal pianos for horror before, by doubling the piano, and putting two pitch shifters on one of them - tune it down in semitones, and then up in hertz, so that the pitches are all a little too close together. It sounds amazing.
That funk was gorgeous. I have to try it!!!
aww alex is great!!
24EDO is such a unique world of tone color! That dual-keyboard technique is inspired. You should try messing around in 5EDO and 7EDO too!
I need both of those as full songs omg
this is really something fresh
For 24-edo metal easy mode, I'd also recommend tuning a regular guitar in neutral third intervals. It's not as flexible as a 24-fret per octave guitar, obviously, but you can still do quite a lot with it, it's easy to learn, and there's no investment required beyond the five minutes it takes to re-tune your instrument.
Nice, I use -50 cents on regular tuning for guitar and two-tapping allows to access scales even
-50 cents on some of the strings I mean
Pretty sweet!!!!!
woah. this is actually like super inspirational. subscribed
well that sounds awesome. looks like I'm gonna write a 48 tone scale synth this weekend.
Ben does it again!
the Thall potential is strong with this one.
Incredible video. As always really, but this one in particular.
Very creative
i really recommend using vital as synth because it can support every tunning file type and us very versatile synth overall. also site scale workshop lets you create any scale you want
I always liked tunings in style of DDAADD (transpose it higher or lower as you like). D, a D an octave higher, A in between the Ds, A an octave higher, same D as the higher one before, and a D an octave higher. I wanna build a 3/6 string guitar for that actually (3 doubled strings like in 12 string guitars you have 6 couples close to each other)... Great for shoegazey stuff and folk-ish stuff and so on. It's as if you had a massively broadened bottom half of a drop tuning and if wanted you technically can still pluck individual strings occasionally for some melodies and embellishments, but big chords is where it shines. I may do the "couples" a little more further apart from each other than on a 12 string to make plucking individual strings easier, but still close enough to easily pluck them as one as well. For now I was using it on a regular guitar with regular spacing. I was also considering getting a 12 string and make it AAEEAADDAADD so as if 2 guitars like that in one, one baritone and one regular, kinda like double necked guitars but crammed into a single neck. I may end up doing that first cause it would be cheaper than ordering an experimental custom made one and easier than making it a DIY project lol though imagine Fender Acoustasonic modded be like this 3/6 one like that, man...
Ben, I came up with an easy way to remember the tuning if you need a little help. All A's Are Alright And Awesome.
Man that sound is chunky af, love it
Very inspiring, thank you. I think its even easier to do iwith a modular synth (just divide 1V/OCT signal by 4 for second oscillator?)
All of this is awesome.
It takes a little practice but you can learn to consistently bend to quarter tones and I’ll use that when I play solos sometimes
You're a legend
Microtonal, Maximal Cool
Bohlen-Pierce is the most metal tuning of all time
Very cool. The song sounded kind of like a fucked up Mehsuggah track...if that's even possible.
Lmao a 5 minute video just demolished all my attempts at microtonal metal. I've tried using scripts to detune Shreddage 3 libraries, which either works great or is a buggy mess.
In any case, I'll hopefully be dropping an album this fall.
is that a custom Reverend??
This is pretty bad ass... I've not been following, but when did you add a Reverend to the mix?
Curious what computer program you use for recording?
I've used DADAAD, it has a similar feel.
Omg Alexxxxxxxx
Alexxxxxxxxxxxxx!!!
Mercury Tree
I still would love to know what that FM EP sound is that frequently shows up in your videos! A specific plugin?
Nice tutorial/demo as usual. However personally I feel it is somewhat illogical/criminal to use the keyboard for the microtonal part. String instruments like a guitar can be highly varied in their tuning which can create relative microtonal intervals just by tuning different on one guitar or even one string.
And for the ultimate experience, embrace the absence of frets altogether. Just find a non precious guitar and take the frets off.
Fretless guitar is great, and so are alternate tunings. The method in this video is designed to make it very easy to be consistent and not need any special gear/guitars to pull off microtonal riffs.
All A tuning is cool.
Please make this a band... Reminds me of Head Wound City.
Sounds more like hardcore than metal to me!
Hell yeah! Microtones rule
Sweet!
a sludgy riffy noise rock band called Part Chimp from London uses guitars tuned all to B, very similar to your technique! the detuning between the different strings adds to the off-kilter quality. and the sound is just pummelling when they've got all the fuzzes turned on. well worth checking out. ua-cam.com/video/nBRU4AOEF68/v-deo.html
Hey Ben! Im currently at music school rn and often feel a sense of burnout and wanting to quit music, however, your videos remind me of the joy and creative spirit that made me fall in love with music. After watching your videos I always find myself wanting to write something new or just sit with my guitar. Thank you endlessly for you knowledge Ben!
music school is just a Rocky training montage for the artist in your brain, hang in there and try to take a day off once a week!
/m/ love it!
class
whoa
had no clue you were in bent knee! (i am not observant). you know what you mean rips
that’s siiiiick
Great to see Alexx and you collab! For some microtonal metal in hard mode, check out Massive Audio Nerve ua-cam.com/video/i9K3v99SCWs/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/EXaIwvXa3SI/v-deo.html
this is siiiick
Please ben!!! You must listen to Toam: Memory Lane
it's like the second track is just the first track but bended?
Not quite, that would just be detuning one. One is a 48 tone octave and one is a standard 12 tone octave. When you go up 3 semitones on the 12 tone one, that’s 3/12th of an octave, meanwhile that’s 3/48th of an octave on the 48 tone one.
You’re just dividing a normal octave range into more notes! I hope this helps ,’D
@@AZALEA_HG I understand how it works , but it kinda brings me out of tune bending notes vibe which in the right context sound really good
@@isaacrodriguez1365 OH I misread your original comment, sorry about that. But yeah it really does, it gives it a really cool sound
holy shit
Brutal
Sounds like Gorod.
A1, A2, A2, A3, A3, A3? How about ... E1, E1, E2, E2, E3, E3, E4, E4
Honestly, I prefer Nanotonal. I find Microtonal is just too limiting.
LISTEN TO JUTE GYTE
Drugs, lots of'em.
Cool Ideas. But Microtonal sounds shit like ever.
I’m happy you weren’t born before like 1700 bro 💀 imagine all music being shit during the historical period you happen to be alive in
Alright, show's over, everyone. Shut it all down, every microtone must go. The king has decreed that 'microtonal sounds shit like ever'. The jig is up.