I agree with you Kenny when you said, if you're not in your 60s how can you even be in the conversation. I'm 61 and I can go back to 1976. Grew up in the NE Bronx. DJ Breakout was our local DJ ( P.S 78). Graffiti was all over the Bronx and trains, I first saw break dancing in '76, then the DJ ( Dance To the drummer's beat and Jam on the groove were the first breaks i remember), then the MC ( Eddie Cheeba and Timmy Hall were legends to us in The Valley). There's alot i still dont know, but i know what i know and experienced. I also went to Truman with Rahiem and was in the same English class with him in 10th grade. I knew Rahiem as a singer before i knew he was a rapper because him and 2 other dudes used to sing on the staircase between classes ( to impress the girls 😂)
I listened to Lord Jamal’a live (one of them). From his premise, he made a lot of good points. He was arguing simply the "origins" was a Black invention. He argues that PRs came later with their influence. And as for Kool Herc being Jamaican, he argues that Herc wasn’t playing reggae, he was spinning American music. Yes he added some Jamaican DJ mechanics, but he maintains the fusion made it uniquely hip-hop. I would agree.
Yo KP, I nominate to make beat-making/sampling an official element. Tell your brother to make it happen! “It ain’t nothin’ like Hip Hop Music…” -Fruitkwan from Go Stetsa I
Not your fault Kenny but last week was the first time I didn’t finish the show and it’s because of this stupid debate. Since we’re right back at it this week I’m just gonna push through but I personally think this is the most meaningless and ridiculous debate about hip hop and I choose to not indulge myself in watching or listening to it. This week will be the exception but what’s next after whatever argument is proven right or wrong? What do we as a collective community gain out of these conversations? Even when Fat Joe said that I didn’t really care. I know all the footage of early hip hop I ever saw showed blacks, Puerto Rican, and a few whites and that didn’t mean anything to me because I thought everyone poor in the same neighborhood is the same people. This social media bullshit I blame for these stupid and distracting arguments.
All you people in the Live Chat saying Kool Herc didnt play reggae at his own parties... what does that gotta do with anything???? The point is he infused Jamaican sound system culture into what he was doing. Why is this going over so many peoples head?????
@@jamingjohnson2275 And your point is what???? You just said other people had sound systems around NYC....I'm talking about JAMAICAN sound system culture... apples & oranges ....NICE TRY....go back to bed.
Great video. What's about DJ Breakout? Flash is always mentioning him as one of the founders too. And maybe you can ask Mr.Wiggles about the influence of puertoricans. He is a puerterican.
DJ Breakout used to hang out on my block ( 216th St between Laconia and Paulding Aves). His boy Richie T lived close to Laconia this was in '75-'76 I was 12-13 yrs old. He used to do jams at P.S 78. FACTS!!!
Kenny, the comment I made in the Live chat that you read about Caz mentioning Puerto Ricans picked up breakdancing after Black people dropped it is from his vladtv interview. He was only on there like once, shouldn't be hard to find
Graffiti was the 1st element because even before the term rap or hip hop. Graffiti was established. So i can understand if someone says graffiti is not an element of hip hop, because graffiti was gonna be there regardless if anybody ever started DJing, rapping, or breaking. Graffiti can actually stand on its own.
Kool Herc being Jamaican is a moot point- he was a transplanted African, meaning in general he is Black- no need in creating another layer of separation. He was in America , he is a Black Man, period.
Thank you for mentioning that. Hopefully we can all just be black and not Jamaican or Haitian. It’s ok to celebrate your ethnicity but in this country it’s more important to be black. If we did that we could change the world!
A lot of people try to avoid the simple point KP brought up last week about the NYC demographics. Art forms and artistic expressions are not created the same way you create or make a sandwich. Everyone is pulling from the environment and feeding back into the same environment. This is why the creative arts focuses on who contributed what and never just when or who it started. James Brown is the Godfather of Soul but he didn't create soul music. James Brown was the architect of his sound but Clyde Subblefeild was the funky drummer. You'd never say "Oh he just participated but he didn't create it" The language gives away the true motive. In the creative arts participants of the art ARE part of the creation & development process by definition. This isn't about who started Hip Hop by any ratio. Its about denying the contributions from anyone not deemed Black enough by people with an agenda.
Nuff respect Kenny Parker! I enjoy your shows and look forward to reading your book that I picked up a week ago. The hot topic this week has been who was responsible for the birth of hip hop. I am close to 60 and been a fan since I heard rappers delight in the 7th grade. I agree your assessment of Kool Herc being the first to do it. Then evolving with Bambatta and Flash. Although these guys have Jamaican or West Indian roots why did you several times make a distinction between Blacks and Jamaican?? It didn’t sit well with me as a black man who wishes one day we would just call us black first and then Jamaican or Haitian or whatever. In my experience the Jamaicans I knew from the Bronx considered themselves superior to the American black people. Is that why you made the distinction of blacks and Jamaican on this show??
The great adventures of Slick Rick should be on that list vocabulary, story telling, comedy, sex, speed rhyming trying to fit mad words in a bar ….. love rap .. preaching rap etc……
I think first and foremost we have to decide what is hip hop, how is hip hop made and does it relate to what we know as hip hop now, they we can start talking about who was first to do what.
Ohhh and yes ! There was puertorican rappers in the 70’s like Whipper Wip original member of Grandwizard Theodore & the Fantastic Five. Ruby Dee also of the Fantastic 5 ! Devastating Tito of the Fearless Four !
@@lethal5flow679 andddd ? Did you even watched Kenny’s video ? He was asked if any puertorican emcee in the 70’s and i am answering that ! Why you got triggered ?! They are still pioneers tho ! Like Kenny said ! The culture wasn’t created in one day ! It took years ! Nobody is talking nothing from our Black American brothers but to say the solely created ALL the elements is not true ! Buuuut Creation… let’s talk about Creation! Latinos mostly puertoricans created the foundational moves for what is Breaking today ! Jo-Jo created the “backspin” ! One of the most famous moves the “windmill” was created by Crazy Legs, He also created the “whip backspin” ! Trac2 created the “1990”, Batch created the “3-Step” ! Shorty Rock created the “6-Step” ! BBoy Spy created “The Swipe” ! Weebles created the “hand glide” ! Ken Swift is credited with the creation of many dance moves. His original footwork and “freeze style” became a foundational part of breaking, which was considered new concepts at the time ! Same Fabel !!! That’s to name a few !!! Breaking would not really exist as it exists now without any of those moves !
HipHop is a culture, Not a Race. There's plenty of other races that's more Hip-Hop than black people. They have more respect for the culture and the art form. That's why all the real Hip-Hop Emcees do so well in other countries.
Creation… let’s talk about Creation! Latinos mostly puertoricans created the foundational moves for what is Breaking today ! Jo-Jo created the “backspin” ! One of the most famous moves the “windmill” was created by Crazy Legs, He also created the “whip backspin” ! Trac2 created the “1990”, Batch created the “3-Step” ! Shorty Rock created the “6-Step” ! BBoy Spy created “The Swipe” ! Weebles created the “hand glide” ! Ken Swift is credited with the creation of many dance moves. His original footwork and “freeze style” became a foundational part of breaking, which was considered new concepts at the time ! Same Fabel !!! That’s to name a few !!! Breaking would not really exist as it exists now without any of those foundational moves !
KENNY analyze this bro. If we can believe a bunch of information giving to us by Europeans about our existence and where we came from including a whole lot of other information that we found out that just wasn’t true but we believed it . Then why is it so hard to believe the information that we are giving by people who was there when it comes to hip hop and just go with that and leave it right there. Just making a point KENNY don’t debut a entire show based around your show epic fails on my comment made😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 KENNY YOUR EPIC FAILS SHOW RULES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏 peace and blessings KENNY
Kenny I think that fat Joe was speaking about Puerto Ricans existence in hip hop as in they were around since the beginning and threw him being a little mello dramatic only out of protecting the documentation of his people he may have said that I don’t think he meant to be harmful in saying it thou🙏
KNOWN UNWRITTEN RULE... YOU CANNOT CALL YOURSELF THE BEST, AND GO INTO A BATTLE USING A GHOST-WRITER. IN THE SAME SENSE..IF YOU CALL YOURSELF THE TEACHER AND YOUR SPEAK SOME FALSE THINGS,WE AND THE CULTURE IS OWED AN APOLOGY!
I wasn’t in NY to know who started this and that in Hip-Hip but one things for certain we all contributed to get it where it is today. The good and bad. I just watched a documentary about various Hip-Hop topics about the creators of all the elements that was pretty good called “Microphone Check “ that I would highly recommend viewing.
DONALD TRUMP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS -- He made it okay for people to be more comfortable with their "ethnic chauvinism" and people being openly nasty toward people of other races and ethnic groups. you have people in their 50s and 60s trying to recall their early childhood and early teen years, and they swear they know everybody who was in the ghettoes, like they were traveling to every neighborhood at 10, 9, 8, 12, 14, etc. Come on, fam! Jamar and whoever else, Knock it off! All this argument about "Exact percentages" is beside the point in trying to preserve the history. There's a heck of a lot of people who contributed something who have drifted into obscurity, but their impact is still felt, as a DJ, b-boy dancer, graffiti artist or an MC. Just last week I saw a podcast featuring Mr. Schick (Daniel Rivera), from the Mean Machine ("Disco Dream") who recorded singles on Sugar Hill and were performing from 1979 - early 80s. Schick was the first Puerto Rican MC on wax to do a verse in Spanish. He quit music and went on to use his graffiti history to get into creating wall murals, billboards and portable murals for musicians. lives in South Carolina now.
The Jamaican/sound system influence on Hip Hop has been overblown and isn't something that Kool Herc himself claims. There was an interview with Herc back in the early 2000s (maybe in Wax Poetics?) where he was asked about this directly. He categorically denied any connection with or influence from sound systems. Kool Herc is a pioneer who just happens to be from Jamaica. Using that to say Hip Hop was started by Jamaicans or comes from Jamaica is a huge reach. Similarly, diminishing Herc's role in Hip Hop just because he wasn't born in the US is also some foolishness.
@rapsalutes dont forget to be fair, you had dynamic breakers breakdancing crew and one of the guys help pioneer head spin and he was latino and you had latinos in zulu and in graffiti etc..dj sound system and sound system effects jamaican pionner that. all in all ,folks ignore and pick and choose history. my stance is black folks in 70's formed hip hop with carribean help in the formation and preservation cause in the projects and the hood folks were knee deep in hip culture sylvia robinson parents were carribean and she was one of the forst to have black owned hip hop full fledge record label. lets stop cannibalizing ourselves in hip hop
To me, today's black rappers are the worst example of HipHop. So, if black people did create Hip-Hop, look what they've done to it. How many of these rappers talk about Hip-Hop today?
Most of these new rappers are from African or Carribean backgrounds, eg: Sukihana, Kodak Black, Cardi B, Foolio, etc. all have either African, Caribbean, or both backgrounds Thanks for proving Lord Jamar's point even further.
What Caz said about breakdancing is true. Being that breakdancing is an event in the Olympics........listen to this.....The Japanese are gonna get gold and dominate for years.....after we are dead and gone people are gonna say Japanese invented break dancing.....I GUARANTEE IT!!!
@@missayawk Underrated comment, but I'll go a step further, there gonna do this to hip-hop in general. It's only a matter of time b4 kids look to Wikipedia for the origins of hiphop, and it's gonna be slyly worded like Puerto Ricans were Equally involved in the creation
@@missayawk That’s why I understand why Lord Jamar is so passionate about this topic....it’s like here we go again, people trying to diminish another creation that Black people created
You should try and get the Director of the movie Tariq Nasheed on your show. Especially if you get KRS-One on there or fat Joe or anybody who wants to push the narrative that hip-hop was created by anybody other than foundational black Americans
this was a really great stream, if people spent more time respecting each others contributions and acknowledge that there are many, many components to what hip hop culture has become over 5 decades then the world might just get on advancing what was created in the first place x x x x 🔈🔉🔊🔴🟡🔵🟣🟤⚫⚪☺☺☺☺
Haven't had as much leisure time as I normally do, so haven't caught the lives live the last 3 weeks. Good to cee the regulars in the chat. Just finished reading your book for the 3rd time. The interview with the iconic Red Alert was edutainment, good watchin'. I am in agreement with you in that when it comes to music, eye don't take someone's nationality or skin color into consideration. I only use crayon talk(black man, white man, yellow man etc) in its weaponized form or to prove a point when necessary. I don't cee any difference between Dr. Sebi, Peter Tosh and a U.S.A based black American alpha male. I know a lot of Caribbean folks don't act very "black", but Sebi and Tosh are blacker than a lot of black U.S.A based American alpha males, by far. We absolutely Love Lord Jamar, pause, but he thinks the earth is flat which means he isn't even 5% anymore, so take what he says with a grain of salt. COngrats on #46, Mr. Parker...Peace!
🎶"My brother name is Kenny,
that's Kenny Parker.
My other brother I.C.U. ,
is much darker."
Some of my all time favorite
lyrics in hip hop.
I agree with you Kenny when you said, if you're not in your 60s how can you even be in the conversation. I'm 61 and I can go back to 1976. Grew up in the NE Bronx. DJ Breakout was our local DJ ( P.S 78). Graffiti was all over the Bronx and trains, I first saw break dancing in '76, then the DJ ( Dance To the drummer's beat and Jam on the groove were the first breaks i remember), then the MC ( Eddie Cheeba and Timmy Hall were legends to us in The Valley). There's alot i still dont know, but i know what i know and experienced. I also went to Truman with Rahiem and was in the same English class with him in 10th grade. I knew Rahiem as a singer before i knew he was a rapper because him and 2 other dudes used to sing on the staircase between classes ( to impress the girls 😂)
I listened to Lord Jamal’a live (one of them). From his premise, he made a lot of good points. He was arguing simply the "origins" was a Black invention. He argues that PRs came later with their influence. And as for Kool Herc being Jamaican, he argues that Herc wasn’t playing reggae, he was spinning American music. Yes he added some Jamaican DJ mechanics, but he maintains the fusion made it uniquely hip-hop. I would agree.
There were american djs like John Brown that infleunced kool herc so it wasn't Jamaican technology
Yo KP, I nominate to make beat-making/sampling an official element. Tell your brother to make it happen! “It ain’t nothin’ like Hip Hop Music…” -Fruitkwan from Go Stetsa I
And YES KENNY I’m incredibly grateful as well but will NEVER negate any one groups contribution
For real!
Brickcity 101, said it best.
I totally agree.
That's why all the best Emcees are from New York, New Jersey, Philly, Boston and Connecticut.
Not your fault Kenny but last week was the first time I didn’t finish the show and it’s because of this stupid debate. Since we’re right back at it this week I’m just gonna push through but I personally think this is the most meaningless and ridiculous debate about hip hop and I choose to not indulge myself in watching or listening to it. This week will be the exception but what’s next after whatever argument is proven right or wrong? What do we as a collective community gain out of these conversations? Even when Fat Joe said that I didn’t really care. I know all the footage of early hip hop I ever saw showed blacks, Puerto Rican, and a few whites and that didn’t mean anything to me because I thought everyone poor in the same neighborhood is the same people. This social media bullshit I blame for these stupid and distracting arguments.
All you people in the Live Chat saying Kool Herc didnt play reggae at his own parties... what does that gotta do with anything???? The point is he infused Jamaican sound system culture into what he was doing. Why is this going over so many peoples head?????
And why is it going over your head. Other people around New York City had sound systems as well. People in Queens and Brooklyn.
@@jamingjohnson2275 And your point is what???? You just said other people had sound systems around NYC....I'm talking about JAMAICAN sound system culture... apples & oranges
....NICE TRY....go back to bed.
@@lethal5flow679 and what does Jamaican sound systems have to do with what individuals were doing in New York?
@@jamingjohnson2275 Bruh, I didn’t already tell you to go back bed? FOH
Great video. What's about DJ Breakout? Flash is always mentioning him as one of the founders too.
And maybe you can ask Mr.Wiggles about the influence of puertoricans. He is a puerterican.
DJ Breakout used to hang out on my block ( 216th St between Laconia and Paulding Aves). His boy Richie T lived close to Laconia this was in '75-'76 I was 12-13 yrs old. He used to do jams at P.S 78. FACTS!!!
@@missayawk dope!
Kenny, the comment I made in the Live chat that you read about Caz mentioning Puerto Ricans picked up breakdancing after Black people dropped it is from his vladtv interview. He was only on there like once, shouldn't be hard to find
Yooo missed the live last night was with my wife, However I’m on the rewind ⏪⏪⏪⏪💯
Rahiem was originally with The Funky Four, then joined up with the Furious Four( making them FIVE) in 1979.
Ethnic groups honorably mentioned are Barbados, Panamanian, Ecuadorian, Polish, Trinidadian, Cuban and others.
Peace, King. Missed the live chat. It's 1:20 a.m. Wednesday, catching the replay right now...
Graffiti was the 1st element because even before the term rap or hip hop. Graffiti was established. So i can understand if someone says graffiti is not an element of hip hop, because graffiti was gonna be there regardless if anybody ever started DJing, rapping, or breaking. Graffiti can actually stand on its own.
Most don't want to include Graf because they don't know the history and don't care about that element.
Peace King Kenny. The documentary called "The Freshest Kid" is good to talk about the origins of breaking and I think Crazy Leggs was in it...
32:23 “They Not Like Us” moshed em up bad
Kool Herc being Jamaican is a moot point- he was a transplanted African, meaning in general he is Black- no need in creating another layer of separation. He was in America , he is a Black Man, period.
Thank you for mentioning that. Hopefully we can all just be black and not Jamaican or Haitian. It’s ok to celebrate your ethnicity but in this country it’s more important to be black. If we did that we could change the world!
A lot of people try to avoid the simple point KP brought up last week about the NYC demographics. Art forms and artistic expressions are not created the same way you create or make a sandwich. Everyone is pulling from the environment and feeding back into the same environment. This is why the creative arts focuses on who contributed what and never just when or who it started. James Brown is the Godfather of Soul but he didn't create soul music. James Brown was the architect of his sound but Clyde Subblefeild was the funky drummer. You'd never say "Oh he just participated but he didn't create it" The language gives away the true motive. In the creative arts participants of the art ARE part of the creation & development process by definition.
This isn't about who started Hip Hop by any ratio. Its about denying the contributions from anyone not deemed Black enough by people with an agenda.
That was beautifully summarized. Peace, KP.
Nuff respect Kenny Parker! I enjoy your shows and look forward to reading your book that I picked up a week ago.
The hot topic this week has been who was responsible for the birth of hip hop. I am close to 60 and been a fan since I heard rappers delight in the 7th grade. I agree your assessment of Kool Herc being the first to do it. Then evolving with Bambatta and Flash. Although these guys have Jamaican or West Indian roots why did you several times make a distinction between Blacks and Jamaican?? It didn’t sit well with me as a black man who wishes one day we would just call us black first and then Jamaican or Haitian or whatever. In my experience the Jamaicans I knew from the Bronx considered themselves superior to the American black people. Is that why you made the distinction of blacks and Jamaican on this show??
I made the distinction only because that's how certain individuals were presenting the argument. Thank you so much for purchasing the book!
Pretty sure Charlie Chase is Puerto Rican?
The great adventures of Slick Rick should be on that list vocabulary, story telling, comedy, sex, speed rhyming trying to fit mad words in a bar ….. love rap .. preaching rap etc……
I think first and foremost we have to decide what is hip hop, how is hip hop made and does it relate to what we know as hip hop now, they we can start talking about who was first to do what.
This is my stance on the entire situation.
If hip hop was just for FBA they wouldn’t be eating right now.
Since you had Large Professor on, you should try to get Mikey D on
Ohhh and yes ! There was puertorican rappers in the 70’s like Whipper Wip original member of Grandwizard Theodore & the Fantastic Five. Ruby Dee also of the Fantastic 5 ! Devastating Tito of the Fearless Four !
Yeah and even they were on Lord Jamars podcast saying they participated, not created
@@lethal5flow679 andddd ? Did you even watched Kenny’s video ? He was asked if any puertorican emcee in the 70’s and i am answering that ! Why you got triggered ?!
They are still pioneers tho ! Like Kenny said ! The culture wasn’t created in one day ! It took years !
Nobody is talking nothing from our Black American brothers but to say the solely created ALL the elements is not true ! Buuuut Creation… let’s talk about Creation!
Latinos mostly puertoricans created the foundational moves for what is Breaking today !
Jo-Jo created the “backspin” !
One of the most famous moves the “windmill” was created by Crazy Legs, He also created the “whip backspin” !
Trac2 created the “1990”, Batch created the “3-Step” ! Shorty Rock created the “6-Step” !
BBoy Spy created “The Swipe” ! Weebles created the “hand glide” ! Ken Swift is credited with the creation of many dance moves. His original footwork and “freeze style” became a foundational part of breaking, which was considered new concepts at the time ! Same Fabel !!! That’s to name a few !!!
Breaking would not really exist as it exists now without any of those moves !
Mr. Schick from the Mean Machine was the first person I heard rap in Spanish on the song " Disco Dream" .
HipHop is a culture, Not a Race.
There's plenty of other races that's more Hip-Hop than black people.
They have more respect for the culture and the art form.
That's why all the real Hip-Hop Emcees do so well in other countries.
Creation… let’s talk about Creation!
Latinos mostly puertoricans created the foundational moves for what is Breaking today !
Jo-Jo created the “backspin” !
One of the most famous moves the “windmill” was created by Crazy Legs, He also created the “whip backspin” !
Trac2 created the “1990”, Batch created the “3-Step” ! Shorty Rock created the “6-Step” !
BBoy Spy created “The Swipe” ! Weebles created the “hand glide” ! Ken Swift is credited with the creation of many dance moves. His original footwork and “freeze style” became a foundational part of breaking, which was considered new concepts at the time ! Same Fabel !!! That’s to name a few !!!
Breaking would not really exist as it exists now without any of those foundational moves !
KENNY analyze this bro. If we can believe a bunch of information giving to us by Europeans about our existence and where we came from including a whole lot of other information that we found out that just wasn’t true but we believed it . Then why is it so hard to believe the information that we are giving by people who was there when it comes to hip hop and just go with that and leave it right there. Just making a point KENNY don’t debut a entire show based around your show epic fails on my comment made😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 KENNY YOUR EPIC FAILS SHOW RULES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏 peace and blessings KENNY
Kenny I think that fat Joe was speaking about Puerto Ricans existence in hip hop as in they were around since the beginning and threw him being a little mello dramatic only out of protecting the documentation of his people he may have said that I don’t think he meant to be harmful in saying it thou🙏
KNOWN UNWRITTEN RULE... YOU CANNOT CALL YOURSELF THE BEST, AND GO INTO A BATTLE USING A GHOST-WRITER. IN THE SAME SENSE..IF YOU CALL YOURSELF THE TEACHER AND YOUR SPEAK SOME FALSE THINGS,WE AND THE CULTURE IS OWED AN APOLOGY!
I wasn’t in NY to know who started this and that in Hip-Hip but one things for certain we all contributed to get it where it is today. The good and bad.
I just watched a documentary about various Hip-Hop topics about the creators of all the elements that was pretty good called “Microphone Check “ that I would highly recommend viewing.
This convo is so fruitless. All the attempts to exclude PR/ Latino presence and contributions is so ridiculous.
DONALD TRUMP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS -- He made it okay for people to be more comfortable with their "ethnic chauvinism" and people being openly nasty toward people of other races and ethnic groups. you have people in their 50s and 60s trying to recall their early childhood and early teen years, and they swear they know everybody who was in the ghettoes, like they were traveling to every neighborhood at 10, 9, 8, 12, 14, etc. Come on, fam! Jamar and whoever else, Knock it off! All this argument about "Exact percentages" is beside the point in trying to preserve the history. There's a heck of a lot of people who contributed something who have drifted into obscurity, but their impact is still felt, as a DJ, b-boy dancer, graffiti artist or an MC. Just last week I saw a podcast featuring Mr. Schick (Daniel Rivera), from the Mean Machine ("Disco Dream") who recorded singles on Sugar Hill and were performing from 1979 - early 80s. Schick was the first Puerto Rican MC on wax to do a verse in Spanish. He quit music and went on to use his graffiti history to get into creating wall murals, billboards and portable murals for musicians. lives in South Carolina now.
The Jamaican/sound system influence on Hip Hop has been overblown and isn't something that Kool Herc himself claims. There was an interview with Herc back in the early 2000s (maybe in Wax Poetics?) where he was asked about this directly. He categorically denied any connection with or influence from sound systems. Kool Herc is a pioneer who just happens to be from Jamaica. Using that to say Hip Hop was started by Jamaicans or comes from Jamaica is a huge reach. Similarly, diminishing Herc's role in Hip Hop just because he wasn't born in the US is also some foolishness.
@rapsalutes dont forget to be fair, you had dynamic breakers breakdancing crew and one of the guys help pioneer head spin and he was latino and you had latinos in zulu and in graffiti etc..dj sound system and sound system effects jamaican pionner that. all in all ,folks ignore and pick and choose history. my stance is black folks in 70's formed hip hop with carribean help in the formation and preservation cause in the projects and the hood folks were knee deep in hip culture sylvia robinson parents were carribean and she was one of the forst to have black owned hip hop full fledge record label. lets stop cannibalizing ourselves in hip hop
To me, today's black rappers are the worst example of HipHop.
So, if black people did create Hip-Hop, look what they've done to it.
How many of these rappers talk about Hip-Hop today?
Most of these new rappers are from African or Carribean backgrounds, eg: Sukihana, Kodak Black, Cardi B, Foolio, etc. all have either African, Caribbean, or both backgrounds
Thanks for proving Lord Jamar's point even further.
@@GreenLionEntertainment and, none of these people have a Hip-Hop sound.
Thier just Culture Vulchers.
What Caz said about breakdancing is true. Being that breakdancing is an event in the Olympics........listen to this.....The Japanese are gonna get gold and dominate for years.....after we are dead and gone people are gonna say Japanese invented break dancing.....I GUARANTEE IT!!!
@@missayawk Underrated comment, but I'll go a step further, there gonna do this to hip-hop in general. It's only a matter of time b4 kids look to Wikipedia for the origins of hiphop, and it's gonna be slyly worded like Puerto Ricans were Equally involved in the creation
@@lethal5flow679 WORD!!! That's why we need the OGs who were there to constantly share the knowledge and speak the truth.
@@missayawk That’s why I understand why Lord Jamar is so passionate about this topic....it’s like here we go again, people trying to diminish another creation that Black people created
You should try and get the Director of the movie Tariq Nasheed on your show. Especially if you get KRS-One on there or fat Joe or anybody who wants to push the narrative that hip-hop was created by anybody other than foundational black Americans
That's a hell no on that fraud Tariq. Later for that buster.
@@Hypestyle fake news
this was a really great stream, if people spent more time respecting each others contributions and acknowledge that there are many, many components to what hip hop culture has become over 5 decades then the world might just get on advancing what was created in the first place x x x x 🔈🔉🔊🔴🟡🔵🟣🟤⚫⚪☺☺☺☺
Haven't had as much leisure time as I normally do, so haven't caught the lives live the last 3 weeks. Good to cee the regulars in the chat. Just finished reading your book for the 3rd time. The interview with the iconic Red Alert was edutainment, good watchin'. I am in agreement with you in that when it comes to music, eye don't take someone's nationality or skin color into consideration. I only use crayon talk(black man, white man, yellow man etc) in its weaponized form or to prove a point when necessary. I don't cee any difference between Dr. Sebi, Peter Tosh and a U.S.A based black American alpha male. I know a lot of Caribbean folks don't act very "black", but Sebi and Tosh are blacker than a lot of black U.S.A based American alpha males, by far. We absolutely Love Lord Jamar, pause, but he thinks the earth is flat which means he isn't even 5% anymore, so take what he says with a grain of salt. COngrats on #46, Mr. Parker...Peace!
Thanks for the words. Much appreciated. And super thanks for purchasing the book!!!