The Plan of San Diego: The Mexican Plan to Take Over the United States...
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I see your flood of latins with a purpose, and move 3 million Haitians into their communities for the checkmate
I as a Texan sat here for a good 6 minutes wondering how I hadn't heard of a Tiano. That's Tejano, Simon, said Tay-han-oh.
Yes LOL, I heard tiano and triano. I actually Googled both to see if there was some other term I'd not heard of.
I think the confusion is because in most European languages apart from Spanish, it WOULD be a Y.
Hell, I thought he was just confused and trying to say Tainos at first.
Yes, and watch out, because PAN-CHO-VEE-Uh may come to your Rounch and behave poorly.
This guy is really bad was pronouncing things, and this applies equally to English and non-English words. He's an equal-opportunity marble-mouth.
From New Mexico, and that bit at the end isn't correct Simon. While there are racists and a**holes, the great majority of us get along just fine on both sides of the border. Really, the Hispanic Americans are some of the most devote to harsher laws and stuff. They know what happened there they don't want it here.
As for the cartels, people live in fear of them, not in support. They like to brand themselves as robinhood types, no one will ever say otherwise. It's too dangerous south of the border to do so. The cartels don't want revolution they want power at home and millions in drug money. They're not tied to Mexican revolutionaries. The cartels are a problem for the Mexican people as much as anyone else.
I hopped into the comments to say the same thing. It wasn't racial overall in South Texas. We were Texas.
From Old Mexico lol, you're spot on 🇲🇽❤🇺🇲
Ok weda
@@themouthofsauron6926 Wedo used to be one of my nicknames, so no te precupes. I take it you have another view, you're welcome to share it if you wish. Things don't get sorted by being silent.
This is in English.... no habla@@themouthofsauron6926
Does this mean we will FINALLY get chile relleno's, REAL ones, not that Sysco garbage, at Taco Bell?
Taco Bell isn't even real Tex-Mex...
@@randlebrowne2048no one noes about Tex mex
I worked and lived in Mexico, great experience. In all the years I was in Mexico I never heard anybody considering or wishing for Mexico to take back the lands that were lost. That comment comes from within the US.
Right?!!!! I used to pick onions in Mexico 🇲🇽 for many years. Nobody ive ever met even hinted at this crazy idea
I do, everyone does, they just don't want to accept it, resentment and hatred burns with passion in every Mexican heart, what the US did is UNFORGIVABLE!.
@@ArtemioMendezHernandez this happened 100+ years ago. times were different. Don't hate, communicate!
@@OhWoahBro What part of UNFORGIVABLE, didn't you catch?.
I beg to differ MX schools still teach that northern lands were stolen by USA !
A Mexican president once said "poor Mexico so far from God and too close to the United States "
Lived the last 47 years in San Diego, CA and knew right away this wouldn't be about my city! Keep forgetting there's another San Diego in Texas.
Well snap thanks for the 411 I was thinking California also didn't know there was a Texas one too
About the same time there was revolutionary activity in TJ, but it got put down pretty quickly.
But this whole “Plan de San Diego” thing is sketchy at best. Not one of its signers were notable leaders of the factions in the Mexican Revolution. None of them the men, arms, or money to even begin to carry it out. It might have been written by bandit revolutionaries, but they were without a base.
Most importantly in the context of the Mexican Revolution, the plan was never promulgated anywhere, on either side of the border. A plan in this context isn’t secret. It’s a statement issued openly to rally support. It’s similar to our Declaration of Independence. A plan in this sense wouldn’t be secret.
I think this was a poorly researched, written, and presented video.
Is it true San Diego means " Whale's vagina" ?
15 years in the Daygo myself, thought this was gonna be about invading us from Tijuana 💀
As far as I know Mexico has no intention whatsoever of getting back the land taken by the USA. If it were so, they would have accepted the help and support offered by Nazi Germany during WWII. To fight Mexico the USA would have to land in the Gulf coast of Mexico, probably close to Veracruz to go to Mexico City as it was done during the war with Mexico in the 1840’s. Probably, the German would have use the U-boats to make landing impossible. Trying to invade by land from the north would have been an attrition war with desert and mountainous terrain. The Mexicans knew their area and by WWII they had been having guerrilla fighting for many decades. So, it would have been a very difficult war for the USA. The reason for problems in Texas is that for many years the Mexican Revolution was raging and there were no clear or enforced borders,so the marauders and guerrillas would move through southern Texas as if they were moving through Mexico. Therefore, is us obvious that Mexico have had no intention of getting that land back. Mexico has been a very good neighbor to the USA. I do not think that the USA has been a good neighbor to Mexico. Instead of helping Mexico to develop, the USA has been helping other countries to develop, even former enemies as Germany and Japan. Instead of that, the USA has allowed particular corporate interest take advantage of their neighbors to the south. That is why there was a saying in Mexico “ Poor Mexico, so far from Heaven and so close to the USA”.
5:18 "written off as Texans trying to outsource a local issue"
Funny how the history is repeating itself now.
Meaning...what, exactly?
I’d think his meaning was obvious
@@ex-navyspook meaning the federal government will throw Texas under the bus whenever it gets inconvenient
@@djsonicc Which is why Texas has made plans to go it alone, if it has to. Not that they'd be alone, mind you.
@@djsonicc Apparently the elected representatives of Texas don’t think it’s an important issue other than as a campaign issue, because they killed the bill that could have addressed the issue and kicked the can to next year at the earliest.
The southwest isn't experiencing a racial tension.
The most rabid border hawks I know are Tejanos or Mexican Americans.
Yes as a Texan because Tejanos are all dead, I agree. We Texans say 'Tejanos' are same--however, after the Revolution many ethnic Texas dispelled the Tejanos. Nowadays, it's just us Mexican Americans who claim the new 'Tejano' culture
@@ErikPTI don’t think “ethnic Texan” is a thing… but yes the white Anglo American Texans kicked out of the country and killed most of the Latin American Texans
Io, you don't like Americans, particularly those who are "PoC", giving a damn about protecting our sovereignty.
That's because of a 'fck you, I've got mine first' mentality that pochos are hated for.
@@JuanDeLaRosaTV I see you've never been to Texas. You look ignorant saying most Latin American Texans were killed. I know many darker skinned Texans who are proud to be Texans. We are all Americans and those who cling to their country of origin need to re-think why they are here.
There's one thing your writers got wrong, there isn't much racial tension at all in the southwest. Us and the Mexican Americans get along like brothers and sisters, because we're all American. The Mexican Americans are damn hard workers and support strong immigration laws and live by the law. Of course as in any community there will be outliers, but the vast majority on each side are good.
Seriously, it's less racial tension, more tension based in gang, cartel, and criminal prevalence.
I'm guessing that you never lived in Maricopa county Arizona....
@@lownignitusnope, hella bums in AZ
Hmmm, well, as a Texan, i would like to offer a counter experience. While interpersonal tension may not exist systematically, they're still alive and thriving. Esp driven by media so globally considering Simon is in the Czech, he's not 100% incorrect. I mean, i gave a little "eh, that's kinda accurate" when he said it i haven't seen a change in talking points of tension (border crisis) that definitely affects the day to day of how Mexican Americans are treated systematically.
Reading your comment as he spoke of the Rebels wanting to liberate my ppl took me down a train of thought... considering that in 1915, we were already "emancipated" in 1885, giving a perspective through the lens of the oppressed makes sense, considering my grandmother's birth in 1927 was on a plantation in Texas! America, in 1884, labeled them free despite that being a farce and people to this day believe they were. So, while you may see a lack of tension in your region, that doesn't negate that it does exist.
Thanks for attending my TED talk, not here to argue, just stating my opinion
This! I lived in Texas, from central Texas down to Laredo, and I never felt tension between the folks just trying to live their lives and get by. Maybe further north, and definitely when we're talking illegal immigrants doing illegal things like selling drugs, or uumv, there was dislike, but everyone else were just Texans.
Nine guys signed it? So a Mexican baseball team was going to take over the SW?
And 39 people signed a document in 1787 saying they were going to take on the largest superpower the world has ever seen... Sometimes you only get one change to underestimate a peoples.
@@Wright1331Those 39 people were actually the official delegates representing 13 states and almost 4,000,000 people and not just 9 guys in a prison. Side note, 1787 was the signing of the Constitution. Did you mean 1776 the signing of the Declaration of Independence? 39 signed the Constitution and 34 initially signed the D of I with another 10 or so signing a month later.
Not only that, they lacked bench strength.
Ok bro...obviously there were more than 9 involved. These were just the 9 leaders deemed important enough in their movement to be asked to sign it. Pancho Villa alone commanded several thousand men and had the popular support of Mexicans on both sides of the border and is still considered a Mexican national hero to this day. This was a lot bigger than just a "Mexican Baseball team" like use your head...
All right, don't be insulting. It was obviously a joke. I agree with Simon that it's likely that the San Diego Plan was a red herring created by the Carranza government to get the US to recognize his regime. It worked. The San Diego Plan invasion never happened. As for Columbus, Villa was able to send only 600 of his 1,500 men on the raid because he lacked guns and ammunition. It's said the Columbus raid happened because Villa was cheated by an American businessman and he attacked Columbus in retaliation. A bad choice on his part. The town had a US military base nearby and Villa got a goodly portion of his command shot up. About 70 raiders were killed. After the raid, US forces invaded Mexico pursuing Villa. They delivered a stinging defeat to Villa's forces at the Battle of Guerrero, although Villa was not captured. The US Expeditionary Force stayed in Mexico for about a year. That this small invading force was able to penetrate Mexico's border and then stay in that country for a year before bumping into Mexican government forces, shows that Mexico was in no military condition to launch any kind of coordinated conquest of the southeastern United States. Again, in my humble opinion.
Wow. This is very new to me. This adds a ton of context to the Zimmerman Telegram.
I think the Zimmerman Telegram was just the Germans trying to stir things up between Mexico and the USA and the Mexican government has no interest.
It also adds context to why the US Army cavalry arm was so heavily focused on desert warfare in the southwest even in the leadup to WW2, to the point many officers were adamantly against adopting tanks and other mechanized equipment which would be unsuitable for desert warfare but vital if WW2 had followed the same pattern as WW1 in Europe.
@@willythemailboy2
So were the tanks & other mechanized equipment useful in the N. African campaign ?
@@ManiSRao-bt3xw Two important differences: 1) the Germans also had tanks, which the Mexicans did not and 2) the US-Mexican desert area is substantially less dry than North Africa,, meaning horse cavalry was more practical in the expected theater of operations. Keep in mind that the US Army saw a war against Mexico as far more likely than another war in Europe up until 1938 or so.
Another issue was the way war games were being carried out in the early 1930s, with rules and procedures that weighted the outcome of the war games in favor of horse cavalry. Things like the time to feed, water, and care for the horses was being lost in the "down time" of the games rather than being accounted for in the "active" part of the games, which severely limited the advantages mechanized troops had in terms of operational tempo. There's an excellent video about this on The Chieftain's channel.
What most people do not realise is that the mighty German 'Blitzkreig Army,' was almost entirely dependant on horse transport for resupply until the end of the war.
The Americans in contrast turned out so much war material they could supply Britain,its Domininions,its Empire,China and Russia with transport, guns,tanks,food,etc. Churchill was no fool,he knew with Uncle Sam on side the allies would win. Adolf and his Generals knew it also. @@willythemailboy2
Lou Ferrigno was president of the Plan of San Diego? I knew he was old, but DAYYUM he still looks good.
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You missed alot of details in this story and I mean alot. Enough that you could be an American school teacher
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Wait, he's not American? If not, how did he fudge world history this badly? I don't understand it, do Brits get their history books of what happened along the borders of Mexico, from the US?
To be fair, there's so many players in the Mexican revolution and America's role that in it, this video could be hours long.
Share your sources, a lot of history and science textbooks and peer reviewed papers are behind pay walls, so if you aren't willing to spend a few hundred USD to research specific topics, you pretty much have to wait a long time before the books the information is in goes on sale. Lots of shady shit in the american education system.
The more we freely share information, the better we can educate the public. The problem is capitalism doesn't really allow that without special concessions to make money in some other way. It's also way easier and cheaper to barely teach the basics than it is to go into depth on lots of topics, I wish our public school system was better than it is, it's lots of problems coming together, but morally this problem rest on the shoulders of elites and big churches that give little to nothing back to the communities they leach off of. We need to change how we do our taxes in america and make education a human right so we can make better laws to prevent predatory schools.
Your teacher would tell you “a lot not alot”
@@blondfuz depends on sentence structure and how a lot is a plot of land and alot means plenty
I love how Simon says "Rio Grande" like he's ordering a drink at Starbucks. 😂
Anyone from Texas will pronounce the name of the river as "Rio Grand".
Love this video and all of his other channels. Pero, my Houston born, Mexican-American, Tejana self winced every time Simon said 'Teajano' instead of Tejano (pronounced, te-HA-no).. He's so freaking British 😂 jaja
The variations of "Huerta" are amusing, too...
Haha I was wondering what’ a “tiano”was !!! At least what it sounds to me !! 😅
The problem here is not just with his team's lack of ability to instruct him on a closer, more accurate, pronunciation of these words (and Simon should insist on some coaching here from his research team or do a bit of that himself if need be) but most importantly to pick a pronunciation of each name/word that he is capable of (as a non-Spanish speaker he can't be expected to tap his r and roll his rr) and to be CONSISTENT with it throughout the video, which is only 24 minutes long. Really, Simon? His various pronunciations of Tejano/a as Triano, Tiano, etc. where he did not pronunce the j, Huerta/Huertista where he DID pronounce the h that should be silent and dropped the t at least once, Venustiano which he said as Venustanio a few times, among others seriously detract from one's ability to follow along and keep track of who is who. Even if you're sure you know what he intended to say, the mistakes pull your attention away from what matters. It's the lack of attention to detail with pronunciation that shows the cracks in the production of his videos and make me question if other facets of production (like historical accuracy!?) are affected as well, just not as obviously. I enjoy most of his videos BUT we all must take UA-cam videos with big fat grains of salt and should find other sources with good credentials to support or counter before we accept as truth what's presented in most of them. As a general rule, take no one single source as the purveyor of truth, especially in the case of history.
@@karlsokalski4234 The truth is that they didn’t put very much work or research into this video. I think it’s quite likely the writers don’t know how to pronounce the words, either. Their understanding of the Mexican Revolution is Wikipedia level.
@@MarcosElMalo2Your Wikipedia comment is so true and funny because I browsed Wikipedia's entry on this topic when looking for who the "Trianos" could have been, not able to believe that it was all so bad that he was just actually pronouncing Tejano wrong. Their understanding seems to be even worse than Wiki. Unfortunately, from now on I will be watching all future videos by this channel with more doubt and "Show me" level suspicion.
I can't wait when Simon revisits History describing the grab land and destruction of Aztec empire by the conquistadors. The ancestors of Mexicans. And after that how the Aztecs killed and took the Olmecs territories. And so on.
Ya, somehow the Mexican-Americans don't get called genocidal colonizers like us white folks, but they did the same as we did... possibly worse. Not sure how they aren't having to hear about it actually...
It’s only bad when whitey does it.
If Texas was occupied by 100% of people of Latino decent, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
I tried to make a similar comment, and UA-cam deleted it. Lucky you for getting through the wall of tyranny.
Yeah, sure! A small bunch of Spanish conquistadores conquered Mexico. Indians who were submitted by the aztecs joined the conquistadores to destroy the aztec empire cause the aztecs were killing those who were not aztecs. Learn some history.
I love my amigos they show love, I’m from Beaumont tx 30 minutes from the Gulf Of Mexico. It Was Tejas Before Texas
Agreed , groves here .
Simon!
It was never Tejas it was Comanchería. Mexico lost to the Comanche.
@@PersonaPariah WHAT EVER DUDE COMANCHES STILL LOOKS LIKE MEXICANS
@@PersonaPariahyou would be surprised how many commanches are in what is now Mexico who would love to get rid of that border as well as Apaches, Yaquis and many other tribes. That border was never supposed to be there 😂
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come on man its only 90 seconds
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Don't let down Simon he loves getting that sweet sweet watch time...
People like you deserve a pinned post ♥
I'm from San Diego, who told you our plans
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No seas payaso 😂
Viva La Raza 😂😎🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
I am a lifelong Tejano. I never heard of this. From the title, I tnought it was a video about San Diego California.
I'm Irish... I've heard of this, even from Dublin!
@Gillemear I live in Texas. Never heard of this until now
Im Slovak, i never heard of Texas before this
“Wagon Train”, a b & w tv show in the early 60s, gave the occasional tiny hint of taking back land. I was only 7-8 years old then. Seeing the show now, I realize how much little me missed.
Watch an old movie called the Three Amigos, it is a parity of all that had happened.
Having a blackout, saw a new Simon video, hell ya the night is saved
Man, I hope your power goes back on and you stay warm/cold/comfy, lol.
I used to live a few miles outside of Columbus New mexico, Pancho Villa invaded it and raised it to the ground.... and they haven't done a damn thing to it since
Actually, they razed it to the ground.
@@chrisschultz8598 correct.
Sorry, 42 years as a newspaper reporter and editor. It's a knee-jerk thing.
I went to Puerto Palomas half the city was burned to the ground.
@@chrisschultz8598Correct spelling, but Columbus wasn’t razed. Not even close. We should endeavor towards both correct spelling and correct definitions, don’t you think?
We live in a very turbulent world, a lot of times it seems things shouldn't be that way, that things should be a lot better than they are in the present than they were in the past. In a lot of ways they are better but it's easy to forget that a lot of crazy things, this stuff included, took place pretty damn recently relatively speaking. It takes time for the scars of the past to heal, even then they'll probably never completely go away in our lifetimes, but we can learn and we can work together. We're human and we make mistakes, and some of us do horrible things. Things that may be unforgivable. But not everyone does those things. Separate the bad from the good and try to focus on the good. There will always be bad but it doesn't have to consume all of us. Most people are just that, people. People trying to live their lives and be happy. Hopefully with enough time we'll continue to grow together, be less judgmental and generalize entire groups of people less, and build a better world. Not perfect, not devoid of evil, but better than yesterday. Thanks for the work you put into these videos and in teaching people of our past. It's important we don't forget. And apologies for anyone who stumbles upon this wall of text that may or may not make sense, I'm currently pretty sleep deprived lmao.
First thread I read was indignant that they didn’t know this, but grateful to have a new anti-immigration talking point. So it was very refreshing to see your comment exhibiting so much logic and compassion. You write beautifully. Hope you rested well :)
(Most of the rest of the comments embrace Mexican/Tex-Mex culture and that makes me happy. Fun to read and learn)
I've heard my grandparents tell stories. But they also always said never to hold resentment. The past is past, and we work for a better future. But never forget, so it can never repeat.
There's a LOT of history that's punctuated from point in time from when the US first took CA,NM,TX, AZ that I feel is important to contextualize before reaching the point this video starts really getting into, but I think is skipped over for brevity. Maybe someday (or maybe it's in back catalog) they can dive into it. All I know is it kinda hurt to hear it glossed over to such a degree, and the conclusion be "these were rebels". Not all of them were. Many of them were farmers and families, promised things from the US government. And they got caught in a whirlwind of crossfire from both sides. Either betray their people, or betray those that they had treaty with. Many who remained loyal, never got their land. And many who turncoat, were given special treatment. It was such a strange era of Americana history.
No one has a problem with legal immigration, it's the illegal, unchecked border violators that are the problem. Every country in the world enforces their borders, take the Dominican Republic for example. They aren't accepting any Haitians right now at all. National security comes first. 👍✌️@awAtercoLorstaIn.
Who says Mexico still doesn’t want this plan carried out even today!
They do
people with a quarter of a brain do
I do, and I will make it happen, somehow.
Everybody's mad at the white man.
@@joelmclamore1898 who wouldn't at this point, the amount of suffering and death they have caused far surpasses any forgiving qualities.
This dude went from our information savior to agenda extremist in a blink. Quixotically reaching for views now.
The new Revolution isn't destruction, but Creating. God Bless My People. 🙏🏼
But all the white aggs have to be cracked open and contents spilled?
So, that's not even close to Austin. Austin is in central Texas.
Right! Also, Richmond, VA is shown as being between or around the Albemarle and Pamlico sounds in North Carolina, and Des Moines, Iowa as somewhere in Northern Arkansas. It is one jacked up map!
History says "Texas rangers" I hear "NCR rangers" 😂. When they get back to new vegas the hoover dam is as good as theirs 😎
🤔War Never Changes...
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
A foreign army invading a state is just a local issue, according to Woodrow Wilson. That alone should make Wilson one of the worst United States presidents ever.
He was
He definitely helped resurrect Klan. With him showing the birth of a Nation at the White House.
What foreign army invaded a U.S state? Do you mean the raid on Columbus?
@@MarcosElMalo2 He is referring to "The Bandit War, or Bandit Wars" a series of raids in Texas that started in 1915 and finally culminated in 1919. They were carried out by Mexican rebels from the states of Tamaulipas, Coahuila, and Chihuahua.
@@spage80 it was led by the feared Pancho Villa.. Man was a ghost n magician who made American guns disappear when he visited police stations n military bases on the US side..lol
This actually sounds more like "Kaiser Wilhelm II's & His Strategist Herr Schiefflen" up to their usual. They successfully did "Very Similar" to the Russian's with Lenin.
It’s a strong possibility. I also think it could have been a single conman who was promptly turned over to the authorities.
Here’s the thing. During the Mexican Revolution, the different sides published their own plans. In this context, a plan is like the Declaration of Independence. A plan is supposed to be a declaration of intent and principles.
This was a poorly researched video.
You mean Marx?
@@2were5678 The Germans literally sent the then-exiled Lenin back into Imperial Russia, during WW1, in order to foment revolt. It eventually worked. The results were initially good for the Germans since the newly Bolshevik army just basically gave up fighting the war. Then decades of hell and more conflict followed. Well done, Germany. 😞
@@NefariousKoel Thanks for replying to the "Above Dummy" & Learning Them. They evidently don't know anything about the ever so evil "Great Game" everyone especially The Kaiser & Tsar played on the World ! I'll bet the above "Dummy" doesn't even know Karl Marx believed Russia to be the last place his beliefs would catch on. With Eireland & Britain being the most likely.
@@2were5678 You don't know a damn thing about history do you ?!!
Mexico can't even take over Mexico.
Oh look! A dumpy unfunny racist!
America can’t even decide it’s gender.
@@pitbossea oh cool. Needed to bring transphobia into it. Big POS energy
Damn that's cooooold 🤣😂🤣🤣
@@pitbossealmfao, true! 😂😂😂
This tea drinking dude is crazy. He needs to read the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
Ukraine will be signing a XXI century version of such a treaty soon.
That frickin treaty is no longer valid, thank Viena for it.
That document looks like a typical false flags operation
Were you tortured so you didnt learn that government, religion and industry are fictional things?
You mean people in 1915 didn’t carry carbon copies of signed attack plans on their person when arrested by American authorities? Is that what you are saying? 🤔
Watch an old movie called the Three Amigos, it is a parity of all that had happened.
More or less, I'd say.
Sorry, perhaps you meant - Parody. Parity means equal. But if that is what you meant - My Apologies. Probably computer auto correct.
Great and informative piece! That's the content on par with best documentaries.
All these folks complaining about whars going on at our border...but doesnt want to accept the fact that we caused their situations by our meddling.... reap what we sowed, pay the consequences of our actions. No large body or water to protect us this time... 🌠
Amen, that is exactly correct.. Mexico is the only nation trying to right the wrongs US keeps doing to all of Latino America, but it seems the feds are trying to pull one last stunt to stop Trump from winning again in this election by allowing all these ppl in.. Even Mexicans don't like all this illegal stuff the US keeps doing n encouraging.. God bless you, my friend..
“Our meddling” has been done by the majority of the Democrats and establishment Republicans. That is why so many people are supporting Trump and other MAGA candidates. Sadly the majority of Republicans refuse to stop voting for the idiot that is already in Congress or the Senate, so we have people like Tony Gonzalez and Mitch McConnell.
The current border crisis in the southwest isn't about racial issues... it's about the sheer number of people coming across the border illegally along with the drugs and human trafficking. As someone who lives in the Southwest and grew up here, is in an interracial marriage and sees what's going on first-hand... I can tell you with great confidence that there are not racial tensions down here. There are always those idiots on both sides who push the racial stuff, but they are very few and far between. There are perspectives and assumptions people who don't live out here make, but they don't have any first hand knowledge or accounts of what's happening and are often wrong. You just don't see people running around yelling at people of a different race here or treating them differently. Those that do are usually the ones who are treated harshly by the public as a whole.
Very well said friend, as a Mexican I can tell you first hand that animosity towards US citizens over here is almost nonexistent. There's always going to be crazy people screaming "La raza" or whatever but no one takes that stuff seriously.
He’s right, I was there.
I have never, not ONCE, heard of the San Diego Plan until now. I've spent my whole adult life thinking that the whole political obsession with border security in the Southwest was nothing more than mindless racism with no rhyme or reason. But in the context of this incident, it makes complete and utter sense that people there would think like this. I still don't agree with it, but goddamn I GET it now!
Or perhaps it's that citizens of the United States would like an actual, controlled border. Like every other nation on earth. Where we know who is coming in? That might be it.
this is why so many people are out of touch. when history isn't taught, we forget the lessons learned from it
We stole the land, they want it back, or at least some of them. It makes perfect sense. Also those people are still racist.
No rhyme or reason?
How about law and order or security?
Some people are racist, most just want to know who is coming in, that they will be an asset and not a liability, and that they aren't going to crap all over everything.
@@user-yx8bk6zo9x there's a fine line where border security turns into needless violence and persecution though. Putting razor wire into buoys in a river and assuming everyone brown is an illegal goes too far imo. You can be reasonably secure without having to resort to extremes and racism.
Three thoughts: (1) The plan of San Diego is properly termed as an invasion and not a rebellion (bib difference). (2) Journals of soldiers in the Mexican-American war tell that locals welcomed the US' takeover of the territiory since the Yanks treated them much better than Mexican officials. (3) The invasion would've failed since they would get very, very little help from locals.
Well, that's all half truths of the matter. By the time TX was taken from Mexico, many a Mexican lived there, and was promised land, work, and security. That things wouldn't change much, but they actually got *better* even. When this "invasion" happened, there were people inside the TX border, not yet completely considered citizens, but living as such, who did in fact join sides with the opposition. They'd be considered rebels. The US also had treatise with several groups along the border, which would later turncoat and be called rebels and traitors. If the militia hadn't stepped in, if the the plan hadn't been found out, it's unlikely the borders would be maintained. There was enough interests and bloodshed to at least push the border towns. Entire cities and farms got razed; people had a real fear of insecurity, as many places were still just getting a foothold. They might not have had much luck in larger cities, but irreparable damage could have been had if not for him recognizing how bad it could get, and turning over the plans.
Ah Simon, I always chuckle at your pronunciation of words that are on this side of the pond. It’s part of your charm. Peace, Love, and Texas forever ❤
A movement closer in time and more dangerous is the ‘manifesto of the Brown Baret’ from the 60’s. Please present a video on that topic
Funny how he completely ignored General Pershing's Mexican Expedition in 1916 after Wilson finally got fed up with Pancho Villa
i dont think he forgot that is not really related to this situation
Thanks For this 😊😊
I've spent some time in Corpus Christi. There's a big difference between saying that the Americans and Mexicans get along well and the very real distinction that persists. I knew two large families that lived there. The ancestors of both had lived in Mexico, but the most recent immigrant ancestor in both families had moved to Texas before WWI (1918). One family's roots were Mexican, Spanish and (curiously) Syrian. The other's were
Anglo Mormons who lived in Mexico for a couple generations where they could practice polygamy. Today, members of one family are called Mexicans, the other Texans. A lot of Texans think of their neighbors in those terms -- Texans and Mexicans -- and their expectations and social behavior reflects that distinction regardless of how long the Mexicans have been U.S. citizens. Protestant discomfort with Catholicism, may have something to do with this persistent bias, but not even the elderly members of the family I knew were practicing Catholics. It's worth our efforts to examine ourselves and our behavior to see if there's something we can do to rethink our ideas about others -- for our own sakes and for our country's sake.
Thank you Simon and commentators for these insights into today’s Texas and Southwest a part of our joint histories together!
Very cool program thanks for the hard work you did
Well this explains a lot
You really should add context to Texas becoming a U.S. state which you glossed over. When Texas seceded from Mexico, several other Mexican states also seceded. Texas was successful because it was too far, distance wise, for Mexico City to exert real control. States were seceding because Mexico City was trying to centralize government authority and the ability for locals to elect their own leaders
There was a shit ton that was glossed over in this lazy and poorly researched video.
Nonsense, Texas was leased to white people who sign contract to work then leave they settled then secede and ask the usa to help them and a war the remember the alamo was fought and the usa annexed it
Yeah, there were widespread revolts all around Mexico at that time. Rebellions against the Mexican gov't. That so often gets glossed over and it makes me wonder why. Because it's a rather important insight into the situation.
@@NefariousKoel if the US, the french and a bunch of other countries didn't destabilize the buck out of our country there wouldn't have been as many rebellions.
@@NefariousKoel but we learned from it, unlike the US who let's it's states become pro-pedo or literal police states we clench our teeth to our territory like our lives depends on it, one learns from it's mistakes, especially when somebody else is involved.
The Plan of San Diego: Fake as fake can be.
I can’t believe Iv never heard of this before, it would be crazy movie
Hmm, the opening to this sure sounds familiar
pretty soon surfshark will be advertising access to tiktok
Not if bitedance sells
Noted American author/poet Ambrose Bierce, traveled to Mexico to observe Pancho Villa and the revolution. He was never heard from again.
I actually knew about this because of Indiana Jones. In one of the Young Indiana Jones choose your own adventure books, Indy gets involved in the punitive expedition in Mexico.
This entire Revisionist history lesson is extremely rich, especially when it is being told by some dude with a Brit accent.
What part of the revisionist? And how did you come to that conclusion ? Im kegit curious this is news
You know the US version of history is quite, ummmmm revisionist itself, not hard to figure out, just look up both world wars from other countries history of what actually happened! Lol
Lol. Mexico can't manage what it already has.
bigoted but true
Our states don't try to declare independence every few weeks.
Great video, greetings from Monterrey, México. Yes, the same place Simon mentions a few time in this video haha. Saludos!
How appropriate, Simon, I was eating enchiladas while listening to the interesting history.
Texas was NOT taken from Mexico in 1848 after the Mexican-American War. Texas gained its independence in 1836 and joined the US as a state in 1845.
According to Texas. Mexico still claimed it as a territory the whole time. The US was actually hesitant to annex Texas because they knew it would mean war with Mexico, and it did.
@@jollytamale3685 You are absolutely correct, but claiming it's yours because it used to be doesn't work out well. Plus Texas is the only state allowed to fly their state flag at the same height as the US flag because Texas joined as it's own country.
@@jollytamale3685Texas was recognized by multiple countries. It was an independent state.
@@jollytamale3685claiming something doesn't mean a thing. Try occupying it like Pancho Bonehead tried .
@coltwest6858 it was considered a state in rebellion, not to dissimilar from the CSA if it had lasted 9 years instead of 4
The map at time 5:15 shows Richmond Virginia on the coast of North Carolina. Not quite. Cartography lesson over. Great video though.
It looks like all the cities are a smidge too far south.
A legacy that can't be forgotten. If they only knew.
This presentation is quite informative as to not quite understood attitudes and actions I have observed or noted over the years of Anglo Texans, especially their derisive regard of the Federal Government and of the Yankee understanding of the borderlands.
Nobody is alive today that had they're land taken away unless they are ukranian or armenian
Or Palestinian...
Their
Or the yazidis...
Oh this is so funny. Just 2 days ago I typed into UA-cam “Simon Whistler San Diego” cause I wanted to look to see if he had any videos about it since I’m going there in a trip soon.
Great Video!
Good old westerns (like Wagon Train) would hint at the beginnings of revolutions. Watching that show 60 some years after they were on tv, I can see what I didn’t back then.
Ultimately, I think much of the blame lies with Woodrow Wilson for refusing to act for so long.
He probably dident think they where a big enough threat and could have caused more problems then it fixed
A lot of problems could be described with "ultimately I think much of the blame lies with Woodrow wilson"
@@badmaw7073 It wasn’t a big threat. And when there was a serious incident (Pancho Villa’s raid on Columbus over an arms deal gone bad), he sent in Pershing.
This is a Vox video in the making…
This gives a whole new light on the modern problem we have at the border too. The cartels must be rooted in the remnants of this.
At 6:45, you call San Diego, Texas, a "border town."
That's funny -- I thought a town had to be near the border to be a "border town."
Still say we should have taken Baja too.
And I should take your mom
Seeing how the US controlled Mexico City after the first war and didn't annex a lot more territory, I don't know if I would expect the same a second time. Not to mention, the US had only gotten stronger since the first war. Texas seceded on its own without the US.
Mexico City is fictional. The portion of the slave system marketed with that fiction?
The USA is fictional. Portions of the slave system are marketed with that fiction.
That's a lie, bud.. US n UK were completely behind the takeover of TX n hurting Mexico harshly for kicking Spain n France's asses.. It was an end to their gold mine n a humiliating blow to their ego since the Viking days.. US knew they'd never hold any more land if they tried, n taking over all of Mexico would never happen, not then, not now, not ever.. Afghanistan took over 20yrs n a 60 country coalition if i'm not mistaken..lol Mexico is twice Afghanistan's size n many times that amount of ppl, n much more powerful than that nation.. Can't ignore economically tied like no other nation on earth.. Mexico's Constitution obligates Mexico to end all relations with any nation that invades it, another issue that no nation on earth wants to deal with.. Also, Mexico is a super rich nation, they can easily pay gold, silver, diamonds, copper, Uranium (yes, for nukes or whatever you like), oil, natural gas, rare earth minerals, rare dirts, etc.. Countries like Russia n China would stand ready to help.. After considering all the pros n cons, a war vs Mexico doesn't seem too smart now..
I have not heard this in about twenty years. When I would speak of it they thought I was crazy....
the sun never sets on british youtube
LMAO.... Mexico can't even control Mexico...😂😂😂
bigoted but true
You can't even control House prices
Exactly. Therefore this theory is not from Mexico. They have had their plate full.
Should we give Mexico back to Spain?
Spain didn't steal land, you did, and you are going to pay, one way or another.
Mexico is much more powerful than Spain..lol i think Spanish ppl would rather they become a Mexican state bcuz the way they're living over there, isn't fun at all... No point in having jets if you can't fuel them up..lol
Mexico fucked Spain up!
It's never too late.
Think of how many law enforcement officers in the States worship the Texas Rangers and The Punisher.
Law enforcement is fictional. Worship is fictional.
What’s your point?
Los Pinches Rinches. Local Spanish slang for the Texas Rangers.
Over a hundret years and those people are still keeping that anger is just ... ridiculous.
I dont know how much of it is true but if that is the case then yeah it is
This takes place before wwI so it hadn't been 100yrs since the US invasion
I don’t live in the southwest, but I doubt there is as much racial tension there as Simon is portraying.
This will be reality soon. VIVA México
lol.
And then what? Mexicans try to flee to Canada?
TRUMP 2024 Mass deportation
says the bit - ch that doesn't even live in Mexico.
Thanks forgotten history uncovered
The commercials are longer than the videos
Mexico: "Give it back!"
USA: "It's OUR land, now!"
Spain: "we were here first."
France: "Hey, is it too late to go back on the Louisiana purchase?'
Native Americans: "...f*ck."
woolly mammoths: “screw all yall”
What about Russian alaska oh putin has already got his two cents in on that one.
@@patrickporter1864 Russia sold Alaska to the US in order to keep the British from taking it and adding it to Canada. This would have put the British Empire's borders close to Russia, making it a dangerous situation for Russia; since it was so far from most of Russia's supply lines.
The Russians simply decided to get at least *some* money for it, while blocking British expansion, rather than lose it anyway and be in a worse situation.
Simon you’re the best!
1111reasonz "Around! No one's ever gonna bring ya down!"
and you're a bigot
5:35 .... 2024: "hold my beer"
When is into the shadows coming to Spotify podcasts? I'd listen while I work.
Kinda intriguing that I click on this in my subscription feed and before the vid starts playing....jobiden ad is the first thing I see. UA-cam needs to check the algorithm parameters
1:55 “lol” -Texans
As a student of history, this is mind blowing to hear about. Amd its not too surprising that it isnt as widely known about given how it too place in the throes of WWI.
Another topic I wish they would teach in school. Now I understand why the Zimmerman telegraph was a big deal. Without this context the US declaring war on Germany over it seems like a gross overreaction by their isolationist president.
Another fiction that should be taught? Was this not covered and you missed it?
Theres a lot of children tortured so they appear to be learning something else while being tortured in front of others in [school].
In the Mexican American war we occupied most of Mexico north of and including Mexico city and the Yucatan peninsula. Terms of surrender was that we would buy up all the rest of the continental US outside of the gadsden purchase with was the southern most parts of Arizona and New Mexico. Honestly it was totally fair, much of the use wanted annexation of Mexico (manifest destiny and the Monroe doctrine) the war was started due to border clashes. Most of the people who fought were people of Hispanic decent (especially in Texas, which seceded and formed their own country. Most of the rest of the southwest also were so far separated from Mexico it was like a different country and they were more than used to taking care of themselves. Both had claims to the land and war would have happened anyway regardless. Those areas were virtually self governing and the US was able to back up the claim whereas Mexico couldn't. It was started via false flag on our part and was wrong. I am not supporting it. War is humanity at the worst. I also know that there is little to no racism in the southwest (from there) and if there is it's a fringe minority that the far left has been screaming that white people are evil and deserve hatred. I grew up in a time not so long ago where basically everyone was cool with each other and we all were American people and everyone laughed at racist shitheads and most of the people were so socially evolved past the point of racism that we were able to focus on our communities, our families, our fellow Americans (and whoever else was in need), we could keep the government on their toes and make them accountable. Now the government has us all riled up over just the most ridiculous shit that we don't notice our republic falling nor our government which Is consolidating power and putting everything they have into destroying our constitution especially the Bill of rights.😢
Mexico has always been a welcoming state n a country hell bent on avoiding war bcuz of the pain n suffering, it's horrible.. Plus, can't claim to be Godly while doing the devil's work.. You're right in that the lands were almost self governing, but that was for all states n countries, not just Mexico, n definitely not just it's huge northern states..
There's nothing new under the sun .
10:11 I didn't know The Incredible Hulk was into revolutions....
Spains acquisition of the southwest was in the mid 1500’s and they took it from the Native Americans who had it for 12,000 years. Mexico got its independence from Spain in 1821 and Texas acquisition the land from Mexico in 1836 and by 1848 the remainder of the Mexican southwest was acquired by the United States. So Mexico had possession of the southwest no longer than 27 years.
There's a *NEW* Mexico now?
Its a state genius...
@@JohnnyChapo no your a state!
@@oldbordergeek🤣😂
@@oldbordergeek your username just makes this comment funny for some reason
@@oldbordergeek youre*
thanks. my family was partvof the migration into texas 1910. became share croppers.
That’s why you live in fear when you steal you fight to keep it
uhm, considering everyone from south of the US southern border is "Mexican", I'm not surprised. I'm in the "Bay Area" and if I learned Spanish, I'd automatically lose points, socially. It's tiered society, English speakers on top, everyone else below. Personally, I'm cheering on the "Mexicans".
We Mexicans welcome you to paradise, amigo.. Monterrey, NL, Mexico is the richest city south of the US/MEXICO border..
Considering the political leaning of the Bay Area, I'm not surprised you feel this way. English is the lingua franca of the country, just as Spanish is the lingua franca of Latin America. Has nothing to do with tiered society you marxist.