+SMK Gamer So is Gaelic taught as Latin in France?? It's very pity as Welsh can teach their language a vivid way and so on for Breton people who are interesting in learning the language (Diwan,...)
+SMK Gamer I believe the approach you recommend is already being used by the equivalents - within Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and the Central Asian ex-Soviet republics - to Ireland's Department of Education and Skills. If Irish is to survive, it may be time for that department to look to some of its counterparts in the ex-USSR.
As a Ukrainian I have to disagree. Although the historical and political background is very similar, Ukrainian and all other languages that you've named are pretty much alive with millions of native speakers (Ukrainian has the biggest number of speakers among all slavic languages after Russian and Polish). I don't know the exact numbers for other countries, but in Ukraine in the 90-ies at least half of Ukrainians either used Ukrainian in everyday life or had at least one Ukrainian-speaking parent, and I think the number might be even bigger. The reason I'm saying this is, you can't compare language learning in these countries to that in Ireland. When, like I did, you grow up in a Ukrainian (or Georgian, or Armenian etc.) speaking environment, there is no other way of learning a language other than like the lanugage of everyday communication
I love Irish. I go to an Irish speaking secondary school (we speak Irish all day) and we have to write paragraphs and learn an tuiseal ginideach in Irish class but we don't have conversations in Irish in the class because we speak Irish to each other in the halls and at lunch
He's Brooklyn and that's obvious from his mannerism and speech pattern but I also see Irish taking over his ways of expression. Kind of like an Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Truth is Irish is incredibly badly taught on the whole, approaches are academic, almost like teaching latin, in school. For contrast look at how Welsh is taught and now, in the Isle of Man, the first all manx primary school. Oversubscribed. The human mind is biologically set up to acquire language. The failure to make this happen in so many cases in Ireland is down to teaching methods. A motivated person should be able to converse and understand basic Irish in 3 months. Due to mutations etc writing a little more challenging but doable. A language class should be the best party in town, esp for little kids. If it isnt, sack the teacher.
the pronunciation of Irish is certainly utterly butchered by most teachers. It sounds nothing like Gaelic, but a bunch of English people trying to read Irish in an English phonology. want to hear what Irish really sound like? Find a 90 year old widow from Donegal or something and listen to her speak.
+SirRobinDeSway Ireland has a lot to learn from countries in the ex-Soviet Union when it comes to teaching languages named after the countries that gave those languages their names. When I think of languages, in post-Soviet states, that are in strong positions, I think of Ukrainian, Georgian, Armenian, Tajik, Azeri and the Central Asian Turkic languages. That's although Russian, in a lot of those countries (like English in Ireland), is likely to remain important to learn for years to come.
yeah teachers usually butcher the pronunciation of it. Ch is pronounced like a k even though C does that already the r is pronounced like an english r and overall the language is taught poorly and so few have a good skill at it
+Cromm Cruach Actually I think the focus on pronunciation "correctness" and generally making it all about making mistakes teachers can mark is all wrong. Language is "acquired" by understanding messages in that language. And only in that way So Kids in Irish speaking homes like kids in Welsh speaking homes never have a single grammar lesson and virtually never a correction on any kind except factual and yet are fully fluent by 3 or so. And it is possible to rcreate that learning environment for teens or adults. Really. I knew tons of Irish teachers back in the 90s full of despair that they were forced to teach using old proscriptive methods that they already knew didnt work. In Wales there was a sea change in the 80s. If youre really interested google or UA-cam Stephen Krashen, total physical response or "suggestopedia" Lozanov. To learn Irish one should move into the gaelteacht ( sorry for spelling) and tell them youre Finnish, dont speak English..."just a liitle Irish". Youll learn!
Interesting language to listen to. To the naked non-Irish ear, it sounds like a mixture between a Scandinavian language (i.e. Swedish), Arabic, and German rolled into one. Again, I am going on just sound, not Irish here at all, but interesting language to listen to. YES, it should be preserved.
The first two questions on my high school exit exam (the test you have to pass to graduate high school in America) were: "5x7=?" and "Bob has 7 dollars, he spends 3 on a candy bar, how much money does he have left?" No joke.
@@laoch5658 Broadly true, depending on the subject. If the kid's been to the classes, can read and write and isn't deliberately self-sabotaging in the exam, they should be able to get at least the first few questions right. Unless they have an intelligence level below that of most primate species, which is always possible.
Alex Creed idk if you're American but as an American, he sounds he has a Brooklyn or Queens accent to me. There is as huge irish/Italian influence on a lot of American dialects.
@@TheKjtheDj His accent is primarily American albeit with a few words here and there that he has picked up a bit of the Irish pronunciation for. His rhythm and inflection seems influenced a bit by both. This would make sense since he is an American that has lived in Ireland for several years.
@@seamusin1697 I'm American and when I lived in Yorkshire for several months I realized my accent started to change... It's an odd thing but it does happen. It went right back to normal once I got home 😁
I suppose he doesn't realise that "goodbye" is short for "God be with ye". They say "Gruss Gott" & other variations thereof in Southern Germany, Switzerland & Austria. I'm sure "adios" is pretty obvious for anybody who knows a wee bit of Latin, as are "adieu" and "dia duit". But then I suppose "goodbye" is slightly less obvious.
thanks bro,i agree its a language i would hate to see die and it does need as many people as possible learning it,lets hope its never will.....tiocfaidh ar la;)
Hey, no need to thank me. I'm just grateful that you have progressed further with your command of the English language. You should include a comma between "ignorance" and "you". Just a heads up.
The world is changing. The tower of Babel is being built while we sit here. I´m Irish, but have lived in Denmark since 1973. I speak Danish with my family and wife, but Ive noticed that on facebook my adult son and daughter speak english with the most of their friends. I have also found out that young in the Gæltacht use English when texting and mailing each other. "Céan fath", no doubt spelt incorrect, but why? Because english is the wests language. So much Eng. is in Danish since I moved here
@Djsouthpaw1987 I never claimed my English was perfect, nor have I said we should get rid of English from the classroom. I was just saying the native tougue of a people must take priority. English is a great international language, but people must know their native toungues first. Just like our schools should be teaching national history before teaching the history of other nations. Thankfully this is changing, but it wasn't the case when I was in school, we never learned any of
@TheCelticChimp Unfortunatetly this is true, but it doesn't have to be that way. A bi-lingual nation is fast becoming the norm across the world and it is a great advantage to your children if you raise them bi-lingually. An amazing gift. It is never too late for language reversal.
@Djsouthpaw1987 our countries history in school. I had to learn it for myself before taking a degree in it in university. Thankfully times are changing. I love languages, including English and love to learn diffrent languages and believe every school should be teaching children many languages. But the native tounge must always come first, we can't keep our languages at the heath, they must be the language of academia, the workforce and the public sector too.In varietate concordia
Australia doesn't speak Australian, the USA doesn't speak American, Canada doesn't speak Canadian...what's your point? A state doesn't need to strictly speak the language derived from its name. Like it or not, English is THE global language at the moment, and will continue to exist as such for the foreseeable future. That doesn't mean people should stop speaking Irish Gaelic, of course, but it'd be ludicrous to expect Irish people to give up English for Irish. It doesn't have to be either/or.
I have to say I don't understand it. I don't know about anywhere else, but here in Australia, you learn a language for five years in high school (starting at 13) and are expected to have a 15-minute conversation in your Year 12 exam. Even the two-year language class (starting at about 16), you're still expected to have a seven-minute conversation in the language, and these are kids who have never learnt another language before in their lives. How can kids who learn a language for fourteen years not be able to speak the language well enough to have a basic spontaneous conversation? (That all said, my Irish is terrible. I can't get my mouth around it and it sounds to me like someone took Gaelic and mangled it. Sorry, I'm sticking with Gaidhlig. I can only encourage the language, though, even if I prefer the Scottish variety of my grandparents.)
After 4 years of Spanish in high school and one semester in college, I can barely have a conversation in that language! . (Didn't care much for studying during those teen years! Hated conjugating verbs and all that) After trying Duolingo, Memrise and a few UA-cam videos for five months, I finally found a live class. I got a lot of words and short phrases on line and with apps but actually trying to SPEAK the language is another story! It's getting easier with practice, though. And I'm still finding stuff on line which is why I'm so late here. Are you still learning?
That is not what the census said. You clearly haven't read the census. 77,185 is the number of daily speakers outside of the education system. 187.827 is the number of weekly speakers who use the language outside of the education system. This means that they can speak the language, but don't have the opportunity to use it every single day - but at least once a week. Now read the actual census and what the question asks! Speaking of questions - I ask again - Do you live in Ireland?
Ar fheabhas. A bhfaca tu e? Ni chreidim! Deirim go bhfuil an ceart aige ag foghlaim Gaeilge. I am teaching myself Irish. With help from C.D.s & a few dedicated Irish friends. I'll find out if I made mistakes. Irish/Gaeilge is difficult, but as part of my identity, rewarding. Slan agus beannacht.
I never said anything about written English, only spoken English. I am not saying English shouldn't be taught either, just that Irish should take priority. It is a part of their identity. Without the Irish language, they are simply West English. Go anywhere in Europe and they will tell you this. If you go to the Basque Country, you will find they have no word for a Basque person, only a Basgue speaker.
let me cheer you up...and encourage you! if you couldnt understand, it was 100% (I'll repeat that) 100%..the fault of the teacher and /or the course The simple point is that language acquisition is a biological function, completely natural. You acquire by understanding. First a word here or there, then a few togerher. It is all about communication..it opens your mind to language.Soon you want to speak.If then some feckin teacher starts correcting you it all falls apart. Kids self correct just by hearing things said right. Its how you learned english.
He knows because of the way you've responded, including to a simple question like "Where do you live?" Do you know the meaning of the word "trédhearcach"?
Is aobhnn liom an teanga na gaeilge! However I think it's time we stopped having to mention god everytime we greet eachother. Deiriann linn dreathari agus drefuiri.
in Ireland, then English should take priority.These things are not statistic and should be constantly be reviewed. If you go across Europe, the best performing schools are those where the children are learning through their second language (most often English). In Finland, many Finnish speaking parents send their children to Swedish medium schools and vice-versa. These Finnish children tend to leave school speaking Finnish, Swedish and English as well as native speakers, and many speak a 4th too
I don't want to learn Irish. Strike me dead. I commend Des Bishop for learning the language, and in such a short space of time, but I don't want to. I'm in secondary school now, I didn't go to a Gaelscoil as a child, and I am not in one now. I'm alright at Irish, but I have a huge disinterest in it and I like French and the other languages I do. Don't get me wrong, I love Ireland, I love its history and other characteristics, but I guess since I don't like Irish, people would hate me.
I don't get all the centralizing on god, mary, jebus etc. The Irish had their own history, culture, and beliefs before the pos christians invaded and converted everyone. There's no need for the christian mythology and I hate how it perverts everything.
well in my mindset, God is a silent mover behind the scenes. If you don't believe in God or a christian version of God that's fine. And yes the Irish did and many aspects of that were absorbed into the last 1400 years of a christianized Ireland. Interesting that it wasn't a central state like Rome or Frankia that did the converting but small-scale preachers and tribes
It is not even your god. You take all those hebrew traditions without batting an eye and get mad at anyone when they say otherwise. Same for islam, they take all those arabic traditions, think arabic as holy and they dont even understand it.
I did look at the stats. Irish is spoken by more people than French. The census figures are freely available. 56,430 speak french regularly.. 187,827 speak Irish on a weekly basis outside of the education system. (Include the education system and that number shoots up). You just don't have a clue what you are talking about. Irish is native to Ireland. It may not be spoken regularly by everyone in Ireland - but there is a substantial population who does. Do you even live in Ireland?
Ah, the ex-gf as teacher; I hear you on that. That's how I learned some Tagalog, heh. If you think second language acquisition is undervalued in the UK, you should trying living here in the US...it's downright exotic to be bi- or multilingual in anything except Spanish, and even that is usually confined to people who are Hispanic and whose parents are immigrants. I suppose it's both the blessing and the curse of having been born an Anglophone.
@Tibialmario Well it's obvious it ain't working, if only a small percentage of the country is fluent in it after 12 years of being taught it in school.He's american and spent a year learning it and can now speak it fluently so he has a say in the matter.
language, whether that be English or Mandarin, is not good. We need people to act as guardians of endangered languages, and to encourage them to pass their language on to younger generations. But we don't have to try and prevent people from learning English in the meantime. On a personal note, I've been interested in Gaeilge for over a decade, and even took classes for it. I still have a copy of "Buntus Cainte" around here somewhere, though I'll admit I forgot almost everything I learned.
187,827 people speak Irish on a regular basis outside of the academic field. That's the only figure that matters. Just because someone only speaks on a weekly basis, does not imply that their standard or ability is any less than someone who speaks it on a daily basis. Many people from the Gaeltacht now live in larger cities and have less opportunity to use it, but still find use in it. You still haven't answered my question - Let's see if you can avoid it one more time. Do you live in Ireland?
The DUP are mad if they accept Irish Language.It's a hundred years since the Spik Mick ordered that Irish be taught in schools and now English is still the main language in Ireland. Language is the noise u make in that thing between nose and chin.
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. America is not a continent. It is a region of continents, North and South, and Caribbean islands in the western hemisphere named after Amerigo Vespucci. Originally, America only referred to South America. Then it referred to all land in the New World. Now it is used to refer either to the USA or the New World, but more commonly, the USA. When describing the continents, one would say the "Americas" or specify North or South.
Well I agree that having one language trounce smaller languages is decidedly bad. I really only take issue with your original, somewhat sensationalist, statement about "the Swedes speak Swedish, the Dutch speak Dutch, the Irish speak English." While they do speak English, many of them speak Irish, just as very many Germans, Swedes, etc. speak English. It's a false dichotomy, then, because many cultures--especially European ones--are quite bi- or multilingual. I do agree that having one global
Foreign and dyslexic people bet exemptions evem if they don't want it most of the time.. Its really stupid, I don't understand what makes one able to learn german, french or Spanish but not their native tongue
Refusing to answer a simple question for the 4th time causes one to ignore anything else you're saying. Tell me... Do you understand the meaning of the word "aineolach"?
As far as French--a language I love and am currently studying--it is nowhere near the lingua franca (no pun intended) that English is. 89% of EU children study French; a third study French. English, not French, is an official language of India, a country of over 1 billion. More Chinese students learn foreign languages by the year, and between French and English, they overwhelmingly speak English. The Philippines, a country of 90+ million, has English as an official language. I'm not saying that
I'm not trying to have a go or anything but i think your culture identity is influenced by where you live. I don't really know what you mean by physically irish but to me culturally irish means sharing in and appreciating the unique ways of a particular place. I definitely think that like Des Bishop, if an american moves to Ireland and becomes immersed in the culture then they can adopt it. But I dont undcerstand how someone can be "culturally irish" without living here.
Tá sé go hiontach le cloisteáil go bhfuil duine éigin ó Meiriceá ag toghadh suas an teanga seo agus gach rud a deireann sé faoin bealach atá an teanga múinte go hiomlán mí cheart
Can you not read English? No one mentioned abandoning English. The more languages you know, the better. Parents who refuse to let their kids learn more then one language are the ones depriving their kids. However, Irish should take priority in Irish schools, because it is the native language. All studies show, in Irish medium schools, children do as well, or better in English then their peers in English medium schools and do better in other languages. If Irish was already the majority language
@converter7 Bi-lingual is only advantageous when both language are actually used. Don't get me wrong; I have no issue with anyone who wants to speak Irish. Personally, I don't want to. I don't like the sound of it and it also seems a fairly crude language to me. Thats just my personal tastes though. It seems a shame to me that many Irish people get all caught up on the least important thing to Ireland as a nation. We have lost far more important aspects of our culture than the language.
Ar fheabhas! Go raibh maith agat. After 800+ years, & they still don't get it,.. or OUT for that matter. Gabh mo leithsceal anois, mo chara.... Caithfidh me na Gaeilge ceachtana seo a dheanamh.. Beanacht De leat agus beannacht De le hanamacha na marbh.
a global monolithic language is a good thing; only that the world is trending towards English as THE language of intercultural exchange, and not French.
Irish class should be the students sitting around chatting as gaeilge instead of being made write and write and write
+SMK Gamer So is Gaelic taught as Latin in France?? It's very pity as Welsh can teach their language a vivid way and so on for Breton people who are interesting in learning the language (Diwan,...)
+SMK Gamer I believe the approach you recommend is already being used by the equivalents - within Ukraine, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan and the Central Asian ex-Soviet republics - to Ireland's Department of Education and Skills. If Irish is to survive, it may be time for that department to look to some of its counterparts in the ex-USSR.
As a Ukrainian I have to disagree. Although the historical and political background is very similar, Ukrainian and all other languages that you've named are pretty much alive with millions of native speakers (Ukrainian has the biggest number of speakers among all slavic languages after Russian and Polish). I don't know the exact numbers for other countries, but in Ukraine in the 90-ies at least half of Ukrainians either used Ukrainian in everyday life or had at least one Ukrainian-speaking parent, and I think the number might be even bigger. The reason I'm saying this is, you can't compare language learning in these countries to that in Ireland. When, like I did, you grow up in a Ukrainian (or Georgian, or Armenian etc.) speaking environment, there is no other way of learning a language other than like the lanugage of everyday communication
indeed and no exams .....
And all that poetry!
I love Irish. I go to an Irish speaking secondary school (we speak Irish all day) and we have to write paragraphs and learn an tuiseal ginideach in Irish class but we don't have conversations in Irish in the class because we speak Irish to each other in the halls and at lunch
Mhaith tú Liz, tá mo mhac sa gaelscoileanna fresin, tá sé sa ranga 3, agus 9 bhliana d'aois.
I can definitely hear his Queens accent clumsily mixing with his Irish accent..haha BRILLIANT!
He's Brooklyn and that's obvious from his mannerism and speech pattern but I also see Irish taking over his ways of expression. Kind of like an Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Someday when I move to Scotland, I want that to happen to me! I don't sound like a native Texan anyway.
SuperWhoLocked Browncoat You just want someone to snatch you.
+ben vad As long as whomever does the snatching has a beautiful Scottish burr and mannerisms and all, YES PLEASE.
SuperWhoLocked Browncoat Wet and wild like a salmon.
ben vad I am not sure what that means, so... thank you?
Truth is Irish is incredibly badly taught on the whole, approaches are academic, almost like teaching latin, in school. For contrast look at how Welsh is taught and now, in the Isle of Man, the first all manx primary school. Oversubscribed. The human mind is biologically set up to acquire language. The failure to make this happen in so many cases in Ireland is down to teaching methods.
A motivated person should be able to converse and understand basic Irish in 3 months. Due to mutations etc writing a little more challenging but doable.
A language class should be the best party in town, esp for little kids. If it isnt, sack the teacher.
Is fearr Gaeilge briste,ná Bearla clíste.
the pronunciation of Irish is certainly utterly butchered by most teachers. It sounds nothing like Gaelic, but a bunch of English people trying to read Irish in an English phonology. want to hear what Irish really sound like? Find a 90 year old widow from Donegal or something and listen to her speak.
+SirRobinDeSway Ireland has a lot to learn from countries in the ex-Soviet Union when it comes to teaching languages named after the countries that gave those languages their names. When I think of languages, in post-Soviet states, that are in strong positions, I think of Ukrainian, Georgian, Armenian, Tajik, Azeri and the Central Asian Turkic languages. That's although Russian, in a lot of those countries (like English in Ireland), is likely to remain important to learn for years to come.
yeah teachers usually butcher the pronunciation of it. Ch is pronounced like a k even though C does that already the r is pronounced like an english r and overall the language is taught poorly and so few have a good skill at it
+Cromm Cruach Actually I think the focus on pronunciation "correctness" and generally making it all about making mistakes teachers can mark is all wrong. Language is "acquired" by understanding messages in that language. And only in that way So Kids in Irish speaking homes like kids in Welsh speaking homes never have a single grammar lesson and virtually never a correction on any kind except factual and yet are fully fluent by 3 or so. And it is possible to rcreate that learning environment for teens or adults. Really. I knew tons of Irish teachers back in the 90s full of despair that they were forced to teach using old proscriptive methods that they already knew didnt work. In Wales there was a sea change in the 80s. If youre really interested google or UA-cam Stephen Krashen, total physical response or "suggestopedia" Lozanov. To learn Irish one should move into the gaelteacht ( sorry for spelling) and tell them youre Finnish, dont speak English..."just a liitle Irish". Youll learn!
Interesting language to listen to. To the naked non-Irish ear, it sounds like a mixture between a Scandinavian language (i.e. Swedish), Arabic, and German rolled into one. Again, I am going on just sound, not Irish here at all, but interesting language to listen to. YES, it should be preserved.
Jason V. Apparently it’s the oldest language in Europe that is still spoken
He’s got great Irish ☘️ and I’m from Connemara
Irish will always be native to Ireland.
You can't rewrite history.
What?
The first few questions of any 16 year old's exam paper, particularly at Foundation level, are there to check for basic brain activity.
The first two questions on my high school exit exam (the test you have to pass to graduate high school in America) were: "5x7=?" and "Bob has 7 dollars, he spends 3 on a candy bar, how much money does he have left?" No joke.
how do you feel about this comment 7 years later?
@@laoch5658
Broadly true, depending on the subject. If the kid's been to the classes, can read and write and isn't deliberately self-sabotaging in the exam, they should be able to get at least the first few questions right. Unless they have an intelligence level below that of most primate species, which is always possible.
Wow you can tell he's American, but is accent has changed because of speaking the language.
Alex Creed idk if you're American but as an American, he sounds he has a Brooklyn or Queens accent to me. There is as huge irish/Italian influence on a lot of American dialects.
@@TheKjtheDj His accent is primarily American albeit with a few words here and there that he has picked up a bit of the Irish pronunciation for. His rhythm and inflection seems influenced a bit by both. This would make sense since he is an American that has lived in Ireland for several years.
@@seamusin1697 I'm American and when I lived in Yorkshire for several months I realized my accent started to change... It's an odd thing but it does happen. It went right back to normal once I got home 😁
no his accent changed because he has been living in ireland for nearly 20 yrs and he is irish now
he sounds american in irish tho too
i am 100% irish born and raised and i love you bro ^_^
I suppose he doesn't realise that "goodbye" is short for "God be with ye". They say "Gruss Gott" & other variations thereof in Southern Germany, Switzerland & Austria. I'm sure "adios" is pretty obvious for anybody who knows a wee bit of Latin, as are "adieu" and "dia duit". But then I suppose "goodbye" is slightly less obvious.
Norwegian was easy for me. I thought that I some kind of language learning genius, until I tried to learn Irish.
The original goodbye, dating from the 1570s, was godbwye, which was a contraction of the farewell phrase "God be with ye!"
It should be taught in school from beginning of schooling till end with people having to study some courses in Irish too.
Go raibh maith agaibh. Tig libh staidear a dheanamh ar bhur gceachtanna, arsa mise. Beannacht De leat agus beannacht De le hanamacha na marbh!
Fun fact! Goodbye comes from the phrase "God be with ye"
Gaelicised English is as corrupt as Anglicised Gaeilge! My name used to mean something! Idiom is all important.
Even if nobody spoke Irish it would still be native to Ireland. Nativity is not subject to change, it is determined by origin.
thanks, i had a feeling it was a bit off, its been too many years since I'v spoken Irish!:(
thanks bro,i agree its a language i would hate to see die and it does need as many people as possible learning it,lets hope its never will.....tiocfaidh ar la;)
Being Irish, or American or whatever isn't up to others to decide for you. It's for you to decide for yourself. Just be yourself, you'll be fine.
Hey, no need to thank me. I'm just grateful that you have progressed further with your command of the English language. You should include a comma between "ignorance" and "you". Just a heads up.
The world is changing. The tower of Babel is being built while we sit here. I´m Irish, but have lived in Denmark since 1973. I speak Danish with my family and wife, but Ive noticed that on facebook my adult son and daughter speak english with the most of their friends. I have also found out that young in the Gæltacht use English when texting and mailing each other. "Céan fath", no doubt spelt incorrect, but why? Because english is the wests language. So much Eng. is in Danish since I moved here
Foundation Level is geared to the needs of students who might have difficulty with those subjects at Ordinary or Higher Level.
@Djsouthpaw1987 I never claimed my English was perfect, nor have I said we should get rid of English from the classroom. I was just saying the native tougue of a people must take priority. English is a great international language, but people must know their native toungues first. Just like our schools should be teaching national history before teaching the history of other nations. Thankfully this is changing, but it wasn't the case when I was in school, we never learned any of
@TheCelticChimp Unfortunatetly this is true, but it doesn't have to be that way. A bi-lingual nation is fast becoming the norm across the world and it is a great advantage to your children if you raise them bi-lingually. An amazing gift. It is never too late for language reversal.
God bless this guy.
@Djsouthpaw1987 our countries history in school. I had to learn it for myself before taking a degree in it in university. Thankfully times are changing. I love languages, including English and love to learn diffrent languages and believe every school should be teaching children many languages. But the native tounge must always come first, we can't keep our languages at the heath, they must be the language of academia, the workforce and the public sector too.In varietate concordia
bro of course i can speak irish.....as i am irish...and speak it fluently as i do with english aswell...
part 2 please!!!!!
Do all students in Ireland take Irish? Or do they have the option to take another language?
Irish an Absolutely beautiful language btw
Irish is compulsory for vast majority. Modern european language very common at secondary level too (mostly French, German and Spanish).
His accent keeps switching😂
@Tibialmario American here, he doesn't sound quite American. We don't say "learnt", for example, we say "learned".
The pedantry is strong in this one.
I got kicked out of Irish adult language course last year.
They say god for hello in Croatian too. There’s other ways to say this without god..
Australia doesn't speak Australian, the USA doesn't speak American, Canada doesn't speak Canadian...what's your point? A state doesn't need to strictly speak the language derived from its name. Like it or not, English is THE global language at the moment, and will continue to exist as such for the foreseeable future. That doesn't mean people should stop speaking Irish Gaelic, of course, but it'd be ludicrous to expect Irish people to give up English for Irish. It doesn't have to be either/or.
Bless his cotton socks
I have to say I don't understand it. I don't know about anywhere else, but here in Australia, you learn a language for five years in high school (starting at 13) and are expected to have a 15-minute conversation in your Year 12 exam. Even the two-year language class (starting at about 16), you're still expected to have a seven-minute conversation in the language, and these are kids who have never learnt another language before in their lives. How can kids who learn a language for fourteen years not be able to speak the language well enough to have a basic spontaneous conversation?
(That all said, my Irish is terrible. I can't get my mouth around it and it sounds to me like someone took Gaelic and mangled it. Sorry, I'm sticking with Gaidhlig. I can only encourage the language, though, even if I prefer the Scottish variety of my grandparents.)
Well if you fluent in Irish you can understand Scots Gaelic, in Ireland we have Munster Irish, Connacht Irish, Ulster Irish
After 4 years of Spanish in high school and one semester in college, I can barely have a conversation in that language! . (Didn't care much for studying during those teen years! Hated conjugating verbs and all that) After trying Duolingo, Memrise and a few UA-cam videos for five months, I finally found a live class. I got a lot of words and short phrases on line and with apps but actually trying to SPEAK the language is another story! It's getting easier with practice, though. And I'm still finding stuff on line which is why I'm so late here. Are you still learning?
Scottish gaeilic actually came from gaeilge. Scottish gaeilic evolved from gaeilge
That is not what the census said. You clearly haven't read the census. 77,185 is the number of daily speakers outside of the education system. 187.827 is the number of weekly speakers who use the language outside of the education system. This means that they can speak the language, but don't have the opportunity to use it every single day - but at least once a week. Now read the actual census and what the question asks! Speaking of questions - I ask again - Do you live in Ireland?
Internets, serious business.
3:40. 😂😂👌
This guy sounds like he's from Brooklyn, New York. Where is he from?
Ar fheabhas. A bhfaca tu e? Ni chreidim! Deirim go bhfuil an ceart aige ag foghlaim Gaeilge. I am teaching myself Irish. With help from C.D.s & a few dedicated Irish friends. I'll find out if I made mistakes. Irish/Gaeilge is difficult, but as part of my identity, rewarding. Slan agus beannacht.
I never said anything about written English, only spoken English. I am not saying English shouldn't be taught either, just that Irish should take priority. It is a part of their identity. Without the Irish language, they are simply West English. Go anywhere in Europe and they will tell you this. If you go to the Basque Country, you will find they have no word for a Basque person, only a Basgue speaker.
I did foundation level. Could never understand a fucking word of Irish. Was the only guy in my class to take foundation level too. Fuck my life.
let me cheer you up...and encourage you! if you couldnt understand, it was 100% (I'll repeat that) 100%..the fault of the teacher and /or the course The simple point is that language acquisition is a biological function, completely natural. You acquire by understanding. First a word here or there, then a few togerher. It is all about communication..it opens your mind to language.Soon you want to speak.If then some feckin teacher starts correcting you it all falls apart. Kids self correct just by hearing things said right. Its how you learned english.
CobinRain Thanks for that comment
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Níl aon focal?
He knows because of the way you've responded, including to a simple question like "Where do you live?"
Do you know the meaning of the word "trédhearcach"?
How long have you lived in Ireland?
Is aobhnn liom an teanga na gaeilge! However I think it's time we stopped having to mention god everytime we greet eachother. Deiriann linn dreathari agus drefuiri.
in Ireland, then English should take priority.These things are not statistic and should be constantly be reviewed. If you go across Europe, the best performing schools are those where the children are learning through their second language (most often English). In Finland, many Finnish speaking parents send their children to Swedish medium schools and vice-versa. These Finnish children tend to leave school speaking Finnish, Swedish and English as well as native speakers, and many speak a 4th too
I don't want to learn Irish. Strike me dead. I commend Des Bishop for learning the language, and in such a short space of time, but I don't want to. I'm in secondary school now, I didn't go to a Gaelscoil as a child, and I am not in one now. I'm alright at Irish, but I have a huge disinterest in it and I like French and the other languages I do. Don't get me wrong, I love Ireland, I love its history and other characteristics, but I guess since I don't like Irish, people would hate me.
Indeed not much hope without God
I don't get all the centralizing on god, mary, jebus etc. The Irish had their own history, culture, and beliefs before the pos christians invaded and converted everyone. There's no need for the christian mythology and I hate how it perverts everything.
well in my mindset, God is a silent mover behind the scenes. If you don't believe in God or a christian version of God that's fine. And yes the Irish did and many aspects of that were absorbed into the last 1400 years of a christianized Ireland. Interesting that it wasn't a central state like Rome or Frankia that did the converting but small-scale preachers and tribes
It is not even your god. You take all those hebrew traditions without batting an eye and get mad at anyone when they say otherwise. Same for islam, they take all those arabic traditions, think arabic as holy and they dont even understand it.
What are you talking about? Which hebrew traditions am I taking without batting an eye and who am I getting mad at?
Christianity is stone age hebrew traditions. There is nothing holy in it and it doe not even make sense.
@converter7
Their not there.
Yes, Irish people should speak Irish!
I did look at the stats. Irish is spoken by more people than French. The census figures are freely available. 56,430 speak french regularly.. 187,827 speak Irish on a weekly basis outside of the education system. (Include the education system and that number shoots up). You just don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Irish is native to Ireland. It may not be spoken regularly by everyone in Ireland - but there is a substantial population who does. Do you even live in Ireland?
The proof is right here on this page, buddy.
I find it very hard to pronounce Irish words on this keyboard.?
Pat Kenny de smugest man on earth
You didn't answer the question, put to you TWICE.
DO YOU LIVE IN IRELAND?
Féar Plé dhuit Dessie hay!
Ah, the ex-gf as teacher; I hear you on that. That's how I learned some Tagalog, heh. If you think second language acquisition is undervalued in the UK, you should trying living here in the US...it's downright exotic to be bi- or multilingual in anything except Spanish, and even that is usually confined to people who are Hispanic and whose parents are immigrants. I suppose it's both the blessing and the curse of having been born an Anglophone.
@Tibialmario Well it's obvious it ain't working, if only a small percentage of the country is fluent in it after 12 years of being taught it in school.He's american and spent a year learning it and can now speak it fluently so he has a say in the matter.
@joker102877 He is from NY as far as I know, Des Bishop, comedian!!
Scéal iontach a bhí anseo. Táim Meiriceánach chomh maith.
language, whether that be English or Mandarin, is not good. We need people to act as guardians of endangered languages, and to encourage them to pass their language on to younger generations. But we don't have to try and prevent people from learning English in the meantime. On a personal note, I've been interested in Gaeilge for over a decade, and even took classes for it. I still have a copy of "Buntus Cainte" around here somewhere, though I'll admit I forgot almost everything I learned.
187,827 people speak Irish on a regular basis outside of the academic field. That's the only figure that matters. Just because someone only speaks on a weekly basis, does not imply that their standard or ability is any less than someone who speaks it on a daily basis. Many people from the Gaeltacht now live in larger cities and have less opportunity to use it, but still find use in it. You still haven't answered my question - Let's see if you can avoid it one more time. Do you live in Ireland?
The DUP are mad if they accept Irish Language.It's a hundred years since the Spik Mick ordered that Irish be taught in schools and now English is still the main language in Ireland. Language is the noise u make in that thing between nose and chin.
Actually, you couldn't be more wrong. America is not a continent. It is a region of continents, North and South, and Caribbean islands in the western hemisphere named after Amerigo Vespucci. Originally, America only referred to South America. Then it referred to all land in the New World. Now it is used to refer either to the USA or the New World, but more commonly, the USA. When describing the continents, one would say the "Americas" or specify North or South.
@wildcherryspray it's almost like exempt from military service or saved from a horrible disease ..
Well I agree that having one language trounce smaller languages is decidedly bad. I really only take issue with your original, somewhat sensationalist, statement about "the Swedes speak Swedish, the Dutch speak Dutch, the Irish speak English." While they do speak English, many of them speak Irish, just as very many Germans, Swedes, etc. speak English. It's a false dichotomy, then, because many cultures--especially European ones--are quite bi- or multilingual. I do agree that having one global
Hahahaha that's a good one
English is not native to Ireland, it developed in England. Now, you could say the Hiberno-English dialect is native to Ireland.
"exempt" from learning Irish, WTF??
Foreign and dyslexic people bet exemptions evem if they don't want it most of the time..
Its really stupid, I don't understand what makes one able to learn german, french or Spanish but not their native tongue
Refusing to answer a simple question for the 4th time causes one to ignore anything else you're saying.
Tell me...
Do you understand the meaning of the word "aineolach"?
@MrsCplusthree Oh, well that makes sense then, lol. Thanks.
Hmmm...
How's about the word "leanbh"?
As far as French--a language I love and am currently studying--it is nowhere near the lingua franca (no pun intended) that English is. 89% of EU children study French; a third study French. English, not French, is an official language of India, a country of over 1 billion. More Chinese students learn foreign languages by the year, and between French and English, they overwhelmingly speak English. The Philippines, a country of 90+ million, has English as an official language. I'm not saying that
yeah i get what your sayin bro but there is no fadas on the keyboard xD
And she thought to herself - "Life couldn't get any worse". And then she turned around... And the potatoes were black... xD really depressing ;D
That's what I said.
this on time i seen a cat get splatterd by a truck and even that was funnier than des bishop
@converter7 It's written "their". Maybe there is a point to having english in class isn't there?
fair play des bishop! tá i bhfad níos mó gaeilge aige ná an chuid is mó d'Éirinn faraoir :/ Tír gan Teanga, Tír gan Anam!
You could always move to England.
I'm not trying to have a go or anything but i think your culture identity is influenced by where you live. I don't really know what you mean by physically irish but to me culturally irish means sharing in and appreciating the unique ways of a particular place. I definitely think that like Des Bishop, if an american moves to Ireland and becomes immersed in the culture then they can adopt it. But I dont undcerstand how someone can be "culturally irish" without living here.
pedantry, WOW where did you learn such a word??.. Congrats.. I was MERELY STATING A KNOW GEOGRAPHICAL FACT,,
Ahh, nach aoibhinn an t-aineolas!
Tá sé go hiontach le cloisteáil go bhfuil duine éigin ó Meiriceá ag toghadh suas an teanga seo agus gach rud a deireann sé faoin bealach atá an teanga múinte go hiomlán mí cheart
His Irish/American accent is weirding me out
Can you not read English? No one mentioned abandoning English. The more languages you know, the better. Parents who refuse to let their kids learn more then one language are the ones depriving their kids. However, Irish should take priority in Irish schools, because it is the native language. All studies show, in Irish medium schools, children do as well, or better in English then their peers in English medium schools and do better in other languages. If Irish was already the majority language
The Late Late audience is dry as sandpaper.
Also, USAian just doesn't make sense
@converter7
Bi-lingual is only advantageous when both language are actually used. Don't get me wrong; I have no issue with anyone who wants to speak Irish. Personally, I don't want to. I don't like the sound of it and it also seems a fairly crude language to me. Thats just my personal tastes though.
It seems a shame to me that many Irish people get all caught up on the least important thing to Ireland as a nation. We have lost far more important aspects of our culture than the language.
Ar fheabhas! Go raibh maith agat. After 800+ years, & they still don't get it,.. or OUT for that matter. Gabh mo leithsceal anois, mo chara.... Caithfidh me na Gaeilge ceachtana seo a dheanamh.. Beanacht De leat agus beannacht De le hanamacha na marbh.
a global monolithic language is a good thing; only that the world is trending towards English as THE language of intercultural exchange, and not French.
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He really shouldn't, since you obviously need the input.
Let me guess...
Four, maybe five years of schooling?
@Animotion1000 i think its pog me thón but im not sure if that totally right
"well what if you don't believe in God?"
"Then you can't have any hope!"
cad ?
Tá uaim ag caint i nGaeilge.