American Learns Irish History
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2017
- Oppression? Troubles? It's time for this American to learn some Irish history. I'll learn so much they'll put me in the GUINNESS book of world records! Get it? Cause like... the beer? k
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Ah he forgot to mention that under the English rule, we weren't allowed to speak our own language, England forced us to speak English instead of Irish
+Samantha Cassidy Campbell yes. Thank you for this. I am happy
+Eileen Stevenson I agree slightly. It allows us to speak with the world a lot easier. But our language is dying and the world doesn't care. The schemes are only there so it doesn't. It is a very old language and would be a shame if we lost it over our ignorance
Eileen Stevenson thays all fine and good but you were criticising someone for stating plain facts of irish history and with the way you protrayed yourself in your comment may have ment to come across light hearted but it didnt it came across as our language doesn't matter because we dont use it anyway even if its was not ment come across like that it did and due to your comment seeming to downgrade us as irish citizens of course i would be offended being someone who has had family lost fighting for our rights so due to that i am sorry if i offended you in any way but i was defending my country and family against what seemed to be straight ignorance towards our mutual culture
Lily Murphy That's so sad ☹️
Lily Murphy that why they said cork but in Irish it was Corcaigh
American: "isnt Ireland part of the UK."
ME: "HAVE U EVER BEEN KNOCKED OUT BY A HURLEY."
@A A alright feen calm down
@A A fuck off u gobshite
@A A if ireland is so bad where are you from thats so great
@A A so your saying that every irish person ever has raped a child at some point
@A A where are you from
Someone pointed out once, that asking for an "Irish Car Bomb" shot is the same as going into a bar in New York and asking for a "World Trade Centre" shot with flaming sambuca or something.
I did see a shot called a 9-11 once and presumed it was a 9 1 1 ie nine one one like the US Emergency number and not the terrorist attacks. No. It was a '9-11'.
I pointed out that that is really insensitive and the response was 'Did anyone you know die? (No)' Then why do you care?' which made me angrier at the inhumanity and short-sightedness of concern.
When I pointed out I had family who had been travelling the world for 2 and a bit years and finished their world tour that very day and returned on the sister flight going in the opposite direction from JFK to Heathrow at the time of the attacks they did look mildly worried. Until someone went 'But there weren't any hijackers on that flight. So they're fine.'
Oh and the shot predated 11.09.01 it was and often still is referred to as a 'Boilermaker'.
Oh hell no. I couldn't imagine that
C Klan cause many car bombs killed many people during the troubles?
Give me a 9/11 would you?
C Klan we were car bombs happend in other parts of Ireland
my family is irish but i was born in england and i moved to ireland last year and it’s pretty shocking how differently history is taught. in england they didn’t mention the plantations, the irish revolution or the famine. the only time they taught us about cromwell was saying that he is a great leader because he created parliament. when in reality he was evil and disgusting and caused so many innocent deaths :/ obviously britain still can’t accept its horrible treatment of ireland and doesn’t want to teach about it
Wait, they don't teach about the famine in England? It's taught here in America. Granted, a lot of that is probably because most of the Irish immigrants came here because of the famine, but still
Lol I was taught the same in my English school and still live in England but my mum taught me how it really was
lara in my history class we take the piss out of the ra
Nick Zimmerle in England there’s Protestants
@@fergalantonioli844 good. You deserve to know the truth.
Actually it was mass homicide. Whilst we were starving, the brits took our food, and shipped it over to the U.K. in front of their eyes.
it all happend a very long time ago, but nothing yet mentioned about the vikings. Although it was all before my time it the story only goes back a short few hundreds years. Out of curiosity i just Googled your surname and its Irish spelling is " Ó Glasáin " not Gleeson Kate lol. Anyway I have no clue what my ancestry is all I know is who was my mum lol and she was english and catholic like me but I dont believe in god. so anyway sorry about our warring paths over the last few hundred years, I havent a clue what happend before the vikings tho !
doesn't make it homicide. the question you forgot to ask in your comment was: Did they deliberately take our food for the purpose of killing us? that's what makes it geno/homocide
@@raduavram8312 would you consider plugging out someone's life support so you can charge your phone homicide? If so then the famine was mass murder.
pj moseley well since the name has changed I guess someone became a Protestant and sipped the English soup
pj moseley 100 hundred years isn’t that long
"Crackin' open a cold car bomb with the boys" *entire channel instantly demonitized*
You can crack open the drink "Irish Car Bomb", you drop a shot of Irish Whisky into a mug of Guinness and down it really fast.
I would never order that in Ireland, it seems like it would be like going to a bar in Manhattan and ordering a drink called a "9-11", likely to raise some serious emotions
Yeah but Americans don’t get that and don’t care about the troubles. They think terrorism only started happening in the western world in 2001.
@@whatabouttheearth I remember when that was called a "Boilermaker."
@@sublucky74 Not knowing something doesn't mean you don't care. Not a single person on the planet is the same so what makes you think a huge continent of people think the same?
Audrey Berry because Americans generalise about the rest of the planet and relish their ignorance of the world outside their country. Many are proud to have never left their country. Since they can generalise about everywhere else, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
I once heard of a guy from America who went to a pub in Ireland and asked if the bartender knew how to make an Irish Car Bomb. The bartender put out two shots of Jameson, lit them on fire, and said, "no, but here's the Twin Towers." =P
Hey also, about the famine
Ireland had 8 million people
2 million died
4 million went to America
We only have 4 million now
6.6 million, you left out the North.
6.. 6 million people
@@yermanoffthetelly they dont count unless they wanna be part of the republic!!! UP THE REBELS!!! LETS FINISH THIS.
yermanoffthetelly not the Republic of Ireland though is it
@@jamesdavison1786 at the time Ireland wasnt Irish either sadly so really the whole of ireland was in the uk so technically speaking the north would still count as they were also Ireland at the time sad that that had to change though
The thought of Sean teaching a History class and the subsequent exam answers is very amusing to me.
"We lost the potatoes. So yeah, that happened."
No offense but you have 500 subs, how are you verified?
That's okay, I get asked that a lot :) The short answer is "I don't know" unfortunately, I think it happened by accident. The full story is in a video on my channel - ua-cam.com/video/ZPWSTe_hdio/v-deo.html
You spell Seàn wrong
It's seán *
Kate's Adventures the normans didn’t really oppress us he was fairly clueless it was when the plantations in the 1600s which started the full scale oppression
Is anyone else irish here?
Éire go dtí an deireadh
Dia Duit
Rachel H rachelhourihan Eireannach agus broduil as
DIA IS MUIRE DUIT
penmumble conas ata tú
They fled Ireland to escape death by famine to America. Only to get caught up in our civil war. Where many Irishman died on our land. Making a Confederate general, at the end of the civil war. Make the comment to a union general. " you only won because you had more Irish" the Irish couldn't win for themselves. But managed to change the course of U.S . Hats off to you Ireland.
A E:The Irish couldn't win in Ireland because the brits wouldn't let us own anything especially a GUN.Fighting against armies armed with a pike or cudgel never ends well.
@@BeltandBraces give the boys in 16 credit it took fuckin balls to stand on the steps of the G.P.O and say fuck off to England and declare independence and they fought hard and later they did win I mean some say the freestaters sold out cut their losses including many of the hard core Republicans in my family that practically raised me but in the end I think maybe they knew it was good as they where gonna get and they did eventually break away entirely
Irish fellow: 800 years ago
American guy:that's a long time ago
Me: Jesus you think that's a long time ago there were people here from 12,500bc
my local church is 700 years old
@@francesatty7022 quite a few in England are older mine is nearly 900 and quite a few in Northumbria were established by Anglo-Saxons
@@alexhicks6207 wow! mines just medieval
@@francesatty7022 the stone isn't there as they built out of wood mostly so only parts or bases remain in most cases but the ground has been consecrated for over a thousand years.
Some of our shit was ancient for the egyptians. Like New Grange is *HELLA* old.
Hey Evan, as a girl from Northern Ireland, I feel that the Troubles should be explained a bit more:
As the Treaty which caused the Civil War was being negotiated in 1921, the Unionists in the North thought "Oh shit if they come to an agreement we in the North will be out of the UK". So, they formed their own Northern Ireland government. At this time, Irish Catholics were treated like second class citizens (similar to the black community in the US in the 60's), the 6 county North and voting system was designed so that no Catholic political party would EVER be in power and Protestant voters (especially wealthy ones) got more votes.
Between the 1920's to 60's the Irish Catholics were to a certain extent oppressed as segregation and discrimination divided Northern Ireland.
The Troubles occurred when one Protestant Prime Minister of N. Ireland (Terrance O'Neill) recognised the need for reform for the Catholics. He wanted an end to the corrupt political system. Irish Catholics took it a step further and marched in protest demanding an end to segregation and discrimination (sound familiar??) The date in 1968.
As the protestors got louder members of the Unionist (extreme) community attacked protesters at incidents such as Burntollet. From that, the violence escalated with extreme unionists taking an extremists in Alabama approach and Catholics taking a Martin Luther King approach. The violence was sooooo bad that the British army stepped in because members of the N. Irish police at that time were joining in with the attackers.
However, after catholic protestors started throwing stones back at protestants, the British army started to take the side of the protestants. By the early 70's the IRA (provisional) began acting more violently using Guerrilla warfare (shooting and running).
Because the British army were weary of every single Catholic-Bloody Sunday happened.
There was another peaceful protest march led by peaceful political leaders who denounced the violent actions of the IRA. During the march the British army opened fire, killing and injuring a similar amount of innocent people as the Manchester attack #MCR.
Throughout the 70's 'an eye for an eye' filled the minds of members of the IRA and the unionist equivalent UDA. The madness and terrorists attacks on London ensued through the 80's.
We only reached a peace agreement in 1998!
Northern Ireland today still faces tension between those who recognise themselves as Irish and those who recognise themselves as Unionist. Between those who demand to sing traditional anti Catholic Songs in marches in Catholic areas and those who demand that Irish should be taught as a recognised language in the North.
Look up 2012 Belfast flag protest...
I do believe that N.Ireland is improving as every Protestant/Unionist of my age group that I have met (and there is a lot) respect my identity and they respect mine.
Hope that was enlightening. By the way, you know those biggot asshats that state if you are Muslim then you must be a member of ISIS-that was exactly what happened to any Irishman in England in the 70s and 80's except worse.
Watch 'In the Name of the Father' as well as Micheal Collins.
Love you Evan!
Kycie Emilias Because that could be covered in a 14 minute video already detailing a lot of our history
I mostly agree with what you're saying, however also in the early 1900's you need to remember that a lot of the north wanted to stay as part of the UK and that with the many many Home Rull bills, those in the south didn't take Unionist religious fears into account as Home Rule would be for all of Ireland and their government were ruled by mostly Catholics and there were many rules put in place by the Pope etc that were discriminatory towards Protestants. Which I do agree becomes ironic as then they preceded to discriminate against those who identified at Catholics but it's just a thing that is more relevant than you think. Also the IRA were violent, very violent, before the 1960/1970's
Kycie Emilias I'm so glad someone wrote this! I appreciate Evan trying to learn more but I feel this explanation was child proofed so much that it took away the seriousness of what occurred and is still occurring!
YESSSSS!!!!! This is the best description of the troubles I've ever seen!! I'm also from the north and I highly appreciate this comment 💚
Kycie Emilias was scrolling through these comments hoping to find something like this. As a girl from N.I myself I would have liked it if they touched more about the troubles as it is still something we are affected by today. So glad to see you wrote this. :))
The famine absolutely was the British fault. Ireland relied heavily on the potato because of the oppressive regime put in place by British Rule. Landlords legally held all power over what crops were grown in their fields and the majority of Irish crops were exported, while the British government gained tax. It was decided in British parliament not to help millions of starving people in Ireland because it was viewed as their own fault. Grain was stockpiled for export in barns as people starved outside the walls. Know your facts before you start saying it was kind of Ireland's fault..
Basically, most crops need good soil to grow and Irish soil is... not that. potatoes grow very well in even poor soils, so it was the largest source of food for Ireland. Some crops like grain were exported. There were British attempts at sending aid, but they were all either badly planned, and anything else were the workhouses. Now the workhouses was the Britons' fault, but it isn't exactly fair to say that it relied purely on the potato due to the British.
Know your facts before you start saying it was kind of Britain's fault..
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For the first link, it could not reasonably be called genocide.
As for the second link, yes, fair enough. I'm not a farmer, this is all just something I've heard about from one place or another.
It's maybe a little far to say that the famine was entirely the fault of the British. However, aid was badly managed and the ecological disaster caused by the potato blight did become a famine largely due to that (there's a good book by Christine Kinealy called 'A Death-Dealing Famine: The Great Hunger in Ireland' that covers this quite well). Since the British largely regarded the Irish people as being lazy, there was a bit of the attitude that they'd brought it on themselves or that it was an act of Providence that would result in Ireland "catching up with the rest of the world", which did mean that they helped less than they were capable of (another great book by Christine Kinealy that goes into this would be 'The Great Irish Famine: Impact, Ideology, and Rebellion'). But there was also the political side of things where they wanted to make sure that Ireland came out of the famine as a good political partner, and they had to apease the corn merchants by avoiding embargo as much as possible, and the people at home were complaining in the paper that it wasn't unusual for the British farmer to find themselves in hard times in the winter, so why should there be daily meetings when it happens in Ireland? (The quote I'm thinking of is on page 24 of 'The Great Irish Famine of 1845-1846: A Collection of Leading Articles... Reprinted from the Times' it has a long name, so shhh I cut it down a bit).
And, yeah, a bunch of other stuff including the fact that even if things had been different it may have been impossible to fully alleviate six successive years of blight (the first Kinealy book goes into that) and the aid within Ireland was distributed badly on top of everything else. Basically it's a pretty debated subject, although early writers (like John Mitchell, who had been affected by it) did a pretty good job of influencing views towards the 'soley British fault' side of things.
Like all things in life, it's complicated and there are quite a few factors that lead to the outcome (heck, I've only scratched the surface and this comment is wayyy too long).
Anyway, I should stop here. There are a lot more interesting books that go into the subject that I won't mention right now since literally nobody asked for this (but hmu if you do want to know - or if you'd like a discussion, since different points of view are good).
:P
Wow the 1916 rising was way underplayed here, that was one of our most significant battles in Irish History. Deserves way more respect and homage :/
Sarah Morley I would’ve thought he would mention padraig pearse reading the proclamation on the gpo but I guess not
Ya America schools don't teach this so even with this short explanation I learned even little bit about it. Bout all we know is Irish people come to America after the potatoe famine. That's kinkade sad.
@@hannahmceleney9267 YESSSS brave men stood to defy an Empire and many young lads died but they went out like brave irish soldiers what happened to Collins is inexcusable though that man was a giant among men
Michael Chidester and of course only de valera the american was left without being shot
@@hannahmceleney9267 actually when you was brought to be shot the british govt quick executing people that being said hes a very controversial character
I’m in Ireland right now and I’ve learned a lot about their history and it’s complicated and kinda rough
Yeah - kinda
lol 'kinda'. It actually is super interesting, but at lot of itis still not talked about, because it's not really 'history' yet, it's ongoing. The troubles may be technically over, but there are still certain places in Belfast a catholic shouldn't really go
@@patrickfitzpatrick6897 So that explains why the National Museum on Kevin St actively omits information. Sure.
Odd how it mentions Henry II arriving in Ireland to "Claim it for himself" yet forgets to mention the Irish king who made it all possible, Diarmaid MacMurchada, travelled to England, got on his knees to Henry II and SWORE FEALTY to him for the right to hire mercenaries.
Diarmaid promised land as payment for said mercenaries.
Henry also received orders from Rome to bring the 'savages of Ireland under the cross' in the 1155 Papal Bull.
Yet you won't read or learn that in any, ANY IRISH Museum.
While there are plenty in England/Wales that do.
You're a liar, Patrick, just like every Irishman that came before you and most likely every one that will be after you.
The more you learn the more inconsistencies you'll find. Dates don't make sense.
Why did the population of Ireland explode from less than 4 million to nearly nine at the eve of the famine?
Why did Diarmaid MacMurchada swear fealty to Henry II?
Why did the Pope charge Henry II to 'bring the savages of Ireland under the cross'?
So many questions but never from Irish mouths will you get a truthful or factual answer.
@@suolasfilms You seem to have an awful lot of hatred for the Irish there. What makes you think all Irishmen are liars? And you will get factual answers if you talk to Irish people who actually study history. Sure most Irish people mightnt know the full story, just like the majority of people in most countries don't know their full history. Doesn't change the fact that massive chunks of Irish culture were almost wiped out and millions died 😕
Don’t ever blame the famine on the Irish. Yes, we depended on the potato but the poxy brits took all the crops from Ireland and created a genocide
@Caoimhin Kelly So the "Poxy Brits" eradicated the Picts for their land did they or was that the Irish?
Also Irelands population in the 100 years preceding the famine (from less than 4 to Nearly NINE MILLION) wouldn't have made the Blight far, far more deadly than it should have been?
Ah sure, 'tis always better to blame the absent Brits for all your ills instead of taking responsibility for your actions.
Well despite considering myself British i agree that it was mostly our fault and the British have kind of screwed up the world and tried to take over everywhere however we just blame the rest of the world.
Ok so more specifically the english most of the time
@@bananasplit6048 Then consider yourself easily influenced.
For over a thousand years the Irish raided the western coastline, slaughtering all they saw and taking what was transportable, usually food and slaves.
The Pope charged Henry II with leading the Norman Invasion fleet in christianising the 'savage people of Ireland'.
At the same time, ousted King of Leinster, Diarmait Mac Murchada, flees to England, kneels before Henry and swears fealty to Henry in exchange for the right to hire mercenaries, including one Richard "Strongbow" DeClare who was promised Diarmait's daughter Aoife in marriage and in doing so making Richard de facto king of Leinster.
When the Irish claimed to be Neutral during the first World War, they were offering Germany a clear path from Cork to Dublin to an undefended and exposed western flank. When all the men of fighting age were dodging German bullets, that's when the 'men' of Ireland decided to have their 'glorious' uprising. Of course this was AFTER agreeing to wait until the war had ended to receive their land back peacefully and democratically.
Who starts a fight with an absent opponent?
The second World war, the Irish claimed the same. And did the exact same thing, this time the offer was made directly to Hitler himself.
After the war, through the church, over 200 nazi's found their way to Ireland. One, Hitlers favourite henchman, Otto "scarface" Skorzeny, escaped firing squad and military prison, was guest of honour in parties attended by soon to be Irish premier, Charles Haughey.
Albert Folens, Gestapo 'interpreter' escapes prison 30 months into a ten year War Crimes sentance, within ten years is Ireland's leading (From primary to university) Education Publisher.
Andrija Artukovic -'butcher of balkans' found peace as a history professor in Rathgar, South Dublin
Irish Premier, Eamon De Valera upon hearing of Hitler's suicide sends his deepest condolences to the 'good people of Germany'.
At least the British can own and learn from their mistakes, not so much can be ever said for the Irish.
@Gerard O'Neill You have no history.
@@lifescree6053 What about, What about, what about.
The British "colonized" the rest of the world, is that a statement or a question?
Or does it bite you that they did because they could?
The Irish "Scoti" tribe (Dalriada) "colonised" Pictland, I say "colonised" but in actuality they slaughtered ALL the Pict's and took the land for themselves prompting Emperor Hadrian to construct a wall.
What about that?
To Colonise basically means to make vacant, un-farmable land farm and liveable. Knowing the early Roman's classed Hibernia (Ireland) as "Mostly swamp land" that could be held with "One Garrison plus auxiliaries." Then, roughly 700 years later, if the English colonised Ireland... (Not sent by the Pope and/or hired by your own ousted king Diarmait Mac Murchada) and "the rest of the world", technically they made the land possible to grow crops where it previously was not, to be able to live on said land and by way of farming, off it.
How's Ireland's agriculture doing recently? Still Ireland's major indigenous export? Uncanny that.
The Irish attempted to colonise the 'new world', what about that?
What about the Roman Empire, that many, MANY Irish are still wilfully and voluntarily beholden?
What about the Ottoman Empire?
What about the Spanish Empire?
What about the Muslim Caliphate?
What about the Russian Tsar's?
What about the Serbian Empire?
What about the Shu Han Dynasty?
What about the Siam Empire?
What about the Rushidan Caliphate?
What about the Ming Dynasty?
What about....
What about ....
What about ....
Didn't your elders ever tell you that 'What about' is a game for losers?
When you're trying not to let your inner Republicanism out.
vlad i hear ye
Omg Know that feeling too well
Ahaha
"Was that Britain's fault?"🤓
"😳😡fff..😠sss..😞*sigh* 😶well kind of.."
The restraint was admirable 😂☘ my answer may have definitely differed😂
I failed..... I'll admit it I didn't even try.
"Irish History"
"I don't want to delve to deeply into the religious wars of Ireland "
Ya, good luck
@C Klan well I mean Protestants denying Catholics right to exist.... kinda affected stuff
@C Klan exactly... religion affected stuff
@@ruthmcg5698 there were a lot of protestant nationalists & a lot of chatolic collaborators. It was a lot more to do with self determination as Irish regardless of political gender or ethnic backgrounds. All of which where involved. The British simplified the conflict to religion, for the pro UK media in America which was more anti catholic at the time.
@C Klan If your born in Ireland then your Irish. Many of the protestant settlers coming to ireland in that period were after been through an aggressive session on anti catholic brainwashing, they had committed some terrible & well recorded atrocities under the mistaken belief that Catholics were aboriginal. When modern local armies pushed them back there printing presses went into overdrive with stories of counter atrocities. But there descendants would for the most part become Irish protestants who in some cases would fight for irish independence & liberty beside Catholics.
@C Klan which atrocities exactly? The invented propaganda of the defending your country against an invasion of religious zealots intent on destroying everything they come across?
100% there’s tension, some of my friends get spat on or beaten up in the bus depot before school because they’re wearing a catholic school uniform.
thats probably cause you live in a shit area. in the north coast, we got on fine with catholics, however, they were also all unionists so that probably helped.
Mr.Bubbles Probably helped? More like definitely helped.
Religion is irrelevant when there Unionists people mention the Religion but that's just because it's easier to explain than Unionsit/Loyalist than Nationalist/Republican.
Dude, Evan said "well I'm not oppressing you so ya" and the Irish dude goes with it, there was A LOT of Irish oppression when the Irish fled to northern America when the famine hit. They where considered non white and sometimes on the same level of blacks because they both lived in poor areas of cities and even where friendly to them which even further boosted the disgust twords irish. The Americans already didn't like the Irish because of the propaganda from the British that carried onto the collonies, they where considered disgusting, sinfull, unclean, beast like, stupid, and thought to be planning to tear don't america because they where Catholic. This all started to change after the civil war where Irish faught with Americans and it showed them that they where fighting for America and that they weren't any lesser than white people. So ya, America did opress the Irish
@sean jared but that's because that's where irish immigrants went, why would they have hatred for irish people in California when they barely ever seen an irishman
@@trickster6669 Yes, because even if you didnt have contact with black, Native American, Asian, and Irish people on an daily basis the hate/propaganda was taught within the homes and schools and carried out into the street. It was always this way.
But then after generations the Irish-Americans used their skin colour as a stepping block, ridiculing the black community they lived along side to climb the social ladder in America. I can’t remember names but an Irish man brought an African-American over to Ireland and told the Irish that he know would be emigrating soon that if they did they did not align themselves with the black movement they were practically giving up their “irishness”
@@bryankennedy7790 sources?
Now i didnt know of that but against the british you did better
Léigh anois go chúramach ar do scrúdphápéir... Na treoreacha agus na ceisteanna a ghabhann le Chuid A. *BEEEEEEEP*
Seachain an bhearna!
The horror. 😱
Not today satan!!!!!!
Actually crying
"Dia duit a Oisin is mise Aine"
"America oppresses alot of people......not Irish" did yous forgot about the "no blacks,dogs,or Irish" signs
In my history classes (US) we were never taught about how the Irish were oppressed in the US (it’s always about the oppression of POC and Asians) so honestly more proof that our school systems are lacking
Nory Cory we were oppressed but not to the extent of poc especially black people so i don’t really expect it.Also there is a myth of irish being slaves which is not true. :)
Nory Cory but yeah school systems r lacking a lot
The No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs signs where in the United Kingdom in the 40's and 50's they where never in America. ''The No Irish Need Apply'' was the common one in America.
@@fionaclaire2668 It's not actually a Myth people say it was indentured servitude which is a form of slavery so yes they were slaves and even then it was not Indentured Servitude because the Children of Irish Slaves would be born in chains, people were kidnapped by the British Military from off the streets, imprisoned and shipped over to the Caribbean Islands most where not Rebels and Every slave worked until they died and there families where never compensated there's also no record of any slaves returning to Ireland this clearly is not Indentured Servitude but it is also not chattel slavery but it is closer to it than for example the Indentured Servitude of the Indians or Chinese people, Irish slaves where chained up, whipped and sold that's clearly slavery and way too severe to be called Servitude. The reason people say they where not slaves is because Idiots in America with a tiny fraction of Irish Heritage like to say ''The Irish where slaves and we got over it'' that's why people call it a myth it's unfortunate that our History and story can be deemed racially insensitive.
I've just finished my dissertation on the effects of the Great Famine on Irish Nationalism until 1922 and it's unbelievable how little people (in England) know about Irish history, and especially in relation to the British role in Ireland, past and present. To put it in perspective, having to explain that the Great Famine was "yes, the potato one" was a really low point. Britain, and England especially, could do with knowing far more about Ireland's past and how devastating the Famine, the Land Wars, 1916, the War of Independence and the Civil War were to the Irish people and their lingering effect. The fact that so many people I know have just dismissed the Irish backstop in the Brexit debate as a 'non-issue', not understanding the serious ramifications a physical border could have, is proof of the importance of learning the history of the British Isles.
I'm pretty sure you're just intentionally trying to start something here cause most british people who went to school know what happened with Ireland. How about you don't spread false information just so you can push your own hateful agenda?
Ellie O'C...Wouldn’t this comment section be full of people saying “ what was the potato famine ? “ if you knew anything you would know the potato blight affected the whole of Europe, in fact anywhere potato’s grew including Britain.
And a lot of English people (excluding myself) will be offended by your comment because of the glossed over history Britain likes to teach in schools they think they know what happened but they don't really know quite how badly Ireland was treated by British (really English) rule and how much of how many people died in the potato famine was the fault of our country. I'm not saying modern Britain is responsible for what happened in the past (with perhaps the exclusion of more recent events such as the troubles) but we need to be aware of it and not repeat its mistakes and ensure Ireland isn't hurt in Brexit and also ensure our overseas territories like Gibraltar's welfare is kept safe and considered in our negotiations.
Hi I just wanted to clarify something for everyone. The Great Famine wasnt about a love of potatoes. During that time Ireland was the breadbasket feeding the industrial revolution in Great Britain. The system that was in place that all the main crops like maize, wheat, barley etc were sent over to the British to pay for the very high rents that the British landlords had set for the 8million tenants who were mostly subsistence farmers. Enter the potato blight that was moving across Europe. After 3 years of failed potato crops, people started to die. Keep in mind there were bountiful amounts of food still being sent to Britain. But it was either pay your rent/sell your crops/starve or get evicted/starve anyway. The British government at the time thought it was Gods plans and did nothing. So thats how 1 million people starved to death and 1million+ emigrated.
D Murphy fair play someone who knows history thank feck!
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Except for the fact that those collecting the rents and adding ever unattainable rent inflation on decreasing sizes of land had nothing to do with the British, you also seem to ignorant of the fact that England had copious farmland and made what was mostly marshland into not only farmable land but liveable land.
Also, if the English were so set on it being "Gods plan" why did the British Government order £100,000 of Maize crops from America to be sent to directly to Ireland?
You see, the English weren't nor aren't as hooked on Rome's imaginary friend as the Irish found themselves to be.
D Murphy *english stop throwing Scots and welsh people into it, we have suffered as much and for longer
D Murphy,
If it was "gods plan" why did the British Prime Minister purchase £100,000 of Maize crops to be sent to Ireland?
Funny that you use "gods plan" seeing as England was far less religiously dependant than the Irish were at the time.
Also if it was the English causing all the pain, suffering and starvation, how come a handful of Irish got insanely rich because of the famine? Because they were Middlemen and they were the ones responsible, they sold smaller and smaller pockets of land for ever increasing rates that the 'landlords' who made the land farmable in the first place never saw.
You can try to lay the blame at the feet of the English, but, as is demonstrated throughout history, if you look hard enough, you'll find the famine happened because of Irish greed.
Of course, if you do look hard enough, you will find the truth above it all;
All Roads Lead To Rome.
suolasfilms 100,000 isn't enough to feed an empoverished for 4 years
after he said "cracking open a cold car bomb with the lads" i literally dropped my phone and had to wait for a bit until i could continue watching. why evan, why???
memes
Evan Edinger too soon
lads come on , tiocfadh ar lá
lauren elaine loves hugs I literally gasped and it's the middle of the night and I'm trying to be quiet 😅
firedneavada good in ya TÁL brits out 26 + 6 = 1
For the famine it WAS the Brits fault because we also grew some corn but the Brits took it all for themselves
Came here to say that too. The government at the time were so wedded to free trade that they refused to force the corn to be fed to Irish people, and instead allowed it to be sold for profit by the rich Anglo-Irish.
Also, glossed over the whole James I, Oliver Cromwell, genocide and colonisation bit I thought.
@@stalfithrildi The English thought the free market would resolve the problem. They thought if demand was high enough in Ireland the market would supply them. This almost sounds like modern economics. This failed because there was complete and utter ignorance of the financial state of the ordinary people , some of whom lived in areas where bartering not coinage was the economy. Why would they raise the price of corn in England and stave more Englishmen to provide corn to Irish? Of course the rich English absent landowners eventually began to feel the impact too but their concerns were not those of the ordinary people who to them were expendable and replaceable whether English or irish. To a british parliament full of englishmen Ireland was a place far away that we owned rather than an intrinsic part of the UK entitled to equal protection of the state.
@@redf7209 Closer but not right.
The primary cause was over population. Many people were living on land that was too poor to grow anything much else. The potato famine hit much of Europe but wasn't as serious because people weren't as dependent on spuds that were effectively clones because of how they were cultivated.
Ireland had exactly the same poor relief system as the rest of the UK where the land owners of the local parishes were expected to provide. But to raise the money to pay poor relief to so many people they sold what other crops there were. That added to the shortages and pushed up food prices. The London government was slow to react, but they did eventually send corn - Ireland didn't produce cereals so there weren't the mills to turn the corn in to flour.
Britain was the main destination for Irish immigrants and the British government did introduce radical reforms afterwards to prevent it happening again. They'd also legislated for Ireland to become a self governing country, but it was the same year WW1 started so had to be postponed. Without the civil war, Ireland would have been a self governing dominion, just like Canada and Australia.
@@hlund73 You are right. A bit malthusian about the population though! There was a climate change in these years that reduced crops across Europe producing a spread of revolutions as countries in those days had no solutions to this and prices rose. It was inevitable that the poorest would die somewhere. Economics and prices rises would not change the overall amount of food available like other commodities in this environment. The potatoes proved more vulnerable than corn so this was basically the biggest point of failure in the European food supply. The video also mentioned famine roads but did not elucidate. If memory serves these were employment schemes where people would build roads in return for aid. Many roads went nowhere and were useless. The idea of giving aid in return for nothing was against the values of the time, - what if everyone stopped working if they get fed free? The local parishes raised rates to provide support but this made the landowners put up rents adding to a cycle of evictions and a fall in income of the big estates. Many of the big landlords started to feel financial pain and pushed for government action. England flooded with Irish Immigrants and there was barely a living space or cellar to be had that was not filled with them. Most of my own ancestors were Irish immigrants and even at the turn of the century some of the women still only spoke Irish Gaelic being socially confined in their own slum communities. I think you are also right about the dominion status too. Similarly, I think without the IRA hardening loyalist fears Ulster would have taken a devolution route like Scotland a long time ago and would perhaps have eventually unified with Eire.
@@redf7209 I have to disagree on Northern Ireland (Ulster is 9 counties, 3 are in the republic). It was explicitly an apartheid state "a protestant state for a protestant people" which already had more devolved power than the scots do now. A state heavily influenced by the sectarian anti-catholic Orange Order (some chapters even went to the point of explicitly advocating genocide against NI catholics). All six of NI's PMs during the existence of it's parliament, every senator in the NI senate history bar one and over 90% of the ~100 unionist MPs who served were members. In over 50 years of the NI parliament existing, one single law proposed by the nationalist minority was passed (protecting bird habitats). There was no fixing a system like that. Their first reaction to the peaceful civil right movement was violence. Their reaction to the growth of the nationalist community would most likely have been a never ending cycle of more oppression and violence.
It's kind of annoying to see people take the piss out of our history. I know it's a joke, but they kind of played it off as "this happened.. lol then this happened"
Jack Murphy Actor I agree, I don’t think they got it right between keeping it light and being disrespectful
Jack Murphy Actor Ireland’s history is boring to be honest
@@Heretic-. Not really, it's got a lot of substance inside of it. We lost a whole language ffs
An Artist/Rouge2t7 it really is boring imo, the rest of European history is much more entertaining to learn about, the only entertaining moment in Irish history is the Williamnite wars
@@Heretic-. I guess I am just a cheese for history, my favourite thing to study being WW2. But I did find a lot enjoyable about irelands history, especially the political developments
Fun fact! Im Irish/Mexican mix and thats because the Irish rebels came to Mexico and joined the army known as "Saint Patrick's Battalion" and aided the Mexican's against the Americans in the revolution. So I'm a pale Mexican with red hair lmfao but I'm really prideful to be Mexican and Irish.
I think there's a flag from Saint Patrick's Battalion in The Dáil?
Have you heard of the song
"St. Patrick's Battalion" by David Rovics? It is a really great song about them.
I have just learned something new.Thank you.
Hey a fellow Irish-Mexican!! But that's because my mom is Mexican and my dad is Irish lol.
Diana H Mexican isn't a race
My middle name is Siobhan and I always ask people "do you wanna guess how it's pronounced or how to spell it?" And everybody always fails 😂
Kiera Finnegan RIP my dude
Kiera Finnegan that's ether really fun or really annoying
Kiera Finnegan I'd probably give up and just pronounce it, "cyborg."
Kiera Finnegan ok kiera
I knew quite a few girls in Belfast called Siobhan. I went out with one in my teens and I always remember saying to her " Siobhan your knickers your Ma's coming". First time it was funny. After that it became a bit boring...
I never hear nothing of the war or troubles in a UK school. So sad. God bless them.
You must be very young. The 'troubles' were on English tv all the time. Its probably a bit soon to teach them as history and knowledge of them should be taken for granted anyway, Its hard to see how people don't know of them through other channels of life..
@@redf7209 I don't think it's too soon to teach it as history. In Northern Ireland you study the Troubles at GCSE History. Since moving to school in England I've realised how ignorant people are of N. Ireland and its history even at a basic level... 😢
@@miapendragon5931 I'm sure the younger generation is but I think the older generation is well aware of it, I remember my Mum telling me that someone called her a Ra head or something to that effect just because of her accent while she was on holidays in Greece.
Who watches Derry girls
Orla is the best character ❤️❤️
Kat That ugly Rat Michelle is my fave
Londenderry girls
@@lb8505 holy fuck u boys r truly spastic, its londenderry, look on a map, on a train, on a bus, londenderry
Nationalists Britian well the show is Derry girls but the correct way is Derry London derry
Fun fact, In Ireland they actually grew a lot of crops, but the land was all controlled and owned by the English and the English landlords so when the potato blight came it destroyed all potato crops in both England and Ireland. So the English exported all the other crops the Irish farmers grew and gave it to the English people, leaving the Irish with nothing but blight ridden potatoes, letting them starve to death.
Even funner fact, the English didn't actually give it to the English people, they already had plenty of food for the populace, they sold it off on the European market to make money.
These facts don't sound very fun, lads. Interesting, aye... not fun.
A. Roo Makes so much more sense, thank you!
I know right???
My great grandparents only had digestive biscuits after their parents were starved to death
As an Irish person recapping on everything fills me with so much pride for our little country
Lara TPE as an Irish person who's grown up in London this videos really helped me understand Irish history that we don't learn here
That's so brilliant(: The Michael Collins movie he mentioned is really good if you want more about the Rising (there is loads of info online about the rising too because last easter was the 100th anniversary if you're interested!)
Lara TPE But why? Why does everyone love this accursed Island?
The Red slime get a life no one is keeping you there and because it's one of the most beautiful countries around ! Second right behind would be Scotland but you're English and only 1/2 Irish go live in England amongst your own people Ireland won't miss you
I feel it painted us northerners in a bad light
“I didn’t know there was an Irish civil war” jaysus I’ve lost all hope god bless
Watch michael collins
The Troubles was more than just the 1970's... 68 -98
I learnt in my history class that a lot of the death during the famine was because the British were exporting a lot of the food that we could have eaten to other countries.
Also there was another failed uprising in the 1800s that was inspired by the French and American revolutions!
TheRaggedyGallifreyan Yes, they exported a lot of wheat to Britain
TheRaggedyGallifreyan There where also a bunch of rebelions
TheRaggedyGallifreyan Theobald Wolfe tone my man
TheRaggedyGallifreyan Well they still didn't start the famine though, and that did legally own the wheat, however they should have gave them the wheat.
TheRaggedyGallifreyan Wolfe tone rebellion?
During the famine -
1. The potatoes were effected by a blight and they were one of our main sources of food so we had to turn to other sources of food but
2. The British used to export our produce such as beef and corn and continued to do so unfairly during the Famine so
3. no food for us so to distract us
4. Trevelyan and his lads (British) decided to make the Irish do public works projects, ie- building famine roads, roads that led to no where, to keep the Irish oppressed
rachelgaughan99 hi Rachel Im well educated about soil science and plants. what I just want to let you know is the potato can only be grown in the same fields every 2nd year blight is part of its growth cycle thats why farmers that grow them always have 2 fields for crop rotation we are all misled in this country with our history education
Mark Flood I wouldn't call blight part of the potatoes growth cycle, its a disease of potatoes and crop rotation involving 2 fields would have almost no tangible benefit during an outbreak of blight.
Mark Flood people wouldn't have had multiple fields to be able to rotate the crop anyway, most farmers during the famine only had one field, because of the old Irish tradition where a father would split the land between all of his sons instead of just giving all his land to his eldest. This tradition was passed down through generations so people were getting less and less land to grow their potatoes on
Beth we are surrounded by the sea and you think people back then wouldn't have taught of getting a different source of food.. and one field split in half makes two fields
Mark Flood in the days of the famine not everyone lived beside the sea, today it's easy to drive from from the midlands to the seaside in 2 or three hours it might have taken people days to make that trip in those days.
Yes you're right it does but the fields would have been halted and halted again to the point where there was only a tiny spit of land not big enough to feed a family and pay rent
He left out so many important details. I am TRIGGERED
The Normans weren’t French, they were Vikings from Scandinavia who set up home in Normandy. Normandy wasn’t part of France at the time. But after a while, the Normans spoke a version of French, so they spoke Norman French by the time they took over England in 1066.
It’s worthwhile pointing out that the Norman aristocracy oppressed everyone they conquered, including the English, the Welsh and the peoples of southern Scotland, as well as the Irish.
Later on, the war between catholics and protestants was not isolated to Ireland, but happened all over Europe. A lot of English politics in the 16th century were dominated by the conflicts between catholics and protestants (Queen Mary was Catholic, but succeeded by Queen Elizabeth who was protestant).
The following century in 1688-9, William of Orange was imported as English (and Scottish) monarch because James II was too catholic (the Glorious Revolution).
There was a lot of fighting all over the British Isles between William’s forces and the Jacobites supporting James II, including the Battle of the Boyne in 1690 in Ireland. William and Mary were succeeded by Queen Anne and then the Hanoverian Georges, and there were three rebellions against protestant rule in Great Britain in 1715, 1719 and 1745. These were known as the Jacobite rebellions, and were attempting to put James Stewart, son of James II on the British throne (in the 1745 rebellion the Pretender was Charles, James Stewart’s son and James II’s grandson).
The fighting in Ireland in this period should be seen in this wider context.
And to put the Irish Potato Famine in context, in England we had the Black Death, which wiped out a third of the entire population. Bad things happen in ye olden days!
@@TilveranWrites Yes, but Ireland had the Black Death TOO!
@@TilveranWrites during the famine alot of our food was being shipped out by the British military. There was a map recently discovered that had all the ports marked of items being shipped out of Ireland
@@TilveranWrites Ignorant nonsense.
Your comment is gibberish.
i mean we relied on potatoes cause all the other food we grew was taken by the British
your groupie i was about to comment that lmao
your groupie Well that and potatoes are the best I mean what other veg is as versatile?
Actually, you HAD no other food apart from scarce livestock. The Potato was imported, as were literally all your vegetables and meats you farm today.
True but some still do I have 2 potatoes a day because I'm Irish and I'm very buddy proud
Also, they made Irish people work (making what is now known as Famine Roads) for food while they imported the few spuds that survived whatever infestation was going on. Good going Brits, only too pleased to see those rabbit-like Catholics die of hunger.
I love how you just skipped over home rule and the plantation like bye Felicia! 😂
Pppft! Who cares about the Fenians and whatnot?!
@@richieherlihy1381 That period of history, plantations, is important as it explains the whole difference in character of Northern Ireland from the rest, at least how they perceived themselve,s and their loyalties to Britain and the separation of NI from the rest of Ireland as part of the treaty in 19922 creating the 'Free State' in the South
@@heliotropezzz333 It was a joke!
@@richieherlihy1381 O.K. Sorry, it's not always easy to tell in text.
I literally didn’t learn a single thing about Ireland from school in America. I’m learning so much from this video.
Didn't they give you Lucky Charms for breakfast?
The Normans first invaded England by WIlliam the Conqueror 1066, The Normans were invited over here from England by one of the Irish Kings, to help secure his Kingdom, and if you don't know Irish history don't talk about it.
Some people say the Irish Potato Famine was a holocaust by the English. Irish people were made a minority in their own country, almost all Irish people were farmers and in extreme poverty. English landowners did nothing to help. When America tried so many times to send over food and stuff to help us, the English took it. When Native Americans raised I think $124 (a lot of money at that time), the English took it. They were actively and 100% trying to let us die out, but without actually shooting us so that they didn't look bad.
min cabbage they exported all other food sources. Potatoes were easy to grow and people relied on it as the only food source. When the blight hit they were left to starve...
I love how the British are seen as the bad guys for "not helping" while the IRA blew women and children to pieces for years and are seen as heroes and freedom fighters. Shame you're so far behind the rest of us culturally, surprising given how much history Ireland has that you're not more advanced by now.
InxCobain the British have done that too, and all the years the Irish were enslaved and pushed into poverty in our own country and the fact that the British were letting us die out was what provoked that. When my dad was a kid, when he walked home from football practice there British soldiers pointing guns at him. when i was in a car with an irish reg and we had to drive by some protestant parade they threw glass at the car even though they could see me in the car and i was 14 at the time. a group of protestants put a car bomb under my friend's mother who is a catholic police officer's car. when Martin McGuinness passed away, protestants burned a coffin with a picture of him on it. and these are only my experiences, the british are still violent fucks towards us
InxCobain advanced? Britain is a laughing stock...brexit shambles ...the pound dropping lower than your IQ.
min cabbage I'll say it again. Keep Wales and Scotland out of this, England's bullshit
So you just left out the plantations ..... ok
Yea.. no big deal.. not like it's relative to the fucking tensions that exist today
It's where it began the whole oppressing peoples culture, removing them from land their ancestors had lived on and forcefully bringing in penal laws (much less inclusive than the Brehon Laws) motivated events that followed.
Well didn't he say he only had secondary school history. Ffs I'm in leaving cert and I'm still a bit foggy on the plantations
Sarah Burke I'm probably around the same age as yer man, and I never even did history past 3rd year / year 10, instead I read books about Irish history and similar conflicts, plus I live up in Belfast so the plantation of Ulster is fairly relevant even now.
No mention of penal laws either
Northern Ireland here😁😁 We learnt all the history of Ireland for GCSEs. I'm now very educated about this now
Jude Kennedy I’m from cork😅
we only learned about WW2 and the Cold War. much more interesting. maybe depends what school you go to.
@@ddha0000 I learnt about WW2 and the Cold War as well, Irish history was just 1/3 of the course
@@JudeKennedyATCL same here :)
I’m from Limerick. 🙂
"A lot of it was that culturally, religiously and through a variety of other factors we relied on the potato, so that was probably bad on our part" - Come on man, that is a ridiculous statement. We relied on it because of the way that Irish held land was divided up after the owners death, making it impossible to sustain ourselves with anything other than the potato, the only crop of its kind that would produce enough food to feed an Irish family on such a small amount of land. This was a result of direct British policy over generations. I'm not even hating on the Brits, the past is the past, but for God sake know your history if you're going to talk about it.
a blight caused the famine which wasn't the fault of the British obviously however they treated the irish significantly worse than other members of the UK , kicked the Irish off their land and gave it to Protestant land Lords causing the Irish to be very poor and live on bad land that only grew potatoes , set up a scheme where the starving citizens built pointless roads basically so theyd die faster and continued to export irish produce despite the starving population. so this is why british rule is 'blamed ' for the famine.
Kicked the Irish of their land for many reasons, one of which was perceived support for James II, the catholic King versus William of Orange the Protestant.
the english stole the wheat growing in Ireland that could have been used to feed the irish
person t Well they did legally own the wheat, however they still should have gave more to the poor.
During the famine the British also exported all food and other resources out of Ireland
Elizabeth O Brien The food produced on the land they owned at the time, they didn't export all the food if they did the Irish would be nearly wiped out.
Idk why Americans think irish people like them so much lol
Niamh C ikr. And then u get an American who's great great grandmother's sister's husband was Irish, and they'll say shit like "so proud to be Irish American!!!!"
“My great great great great great great grandfather was from here, did you know him”. ????????
Niamh C omfg exactly. They literally have this fixation that they're not Americans and because one of their ancestors was Irish, they're also Irish
To be fair, better to be proud than ashamed. Just goes to show the Irish are loved hugely especially when compared to the British. Similar story in Canada too. Some of my family were out in a French-Canadian town years back and they strolled into a bar and people were staring. Someone asked "are you British?" and when they said "no, we're Irish" the bar cheered and were saying things like "you shoot the British!" lol
Niamh C haha iky
There needs to be a second part of this video about Northern Ireland,I always find it interesting to see people’s reactions to NI history
This American dude is completely making a joke of it, I stopped watching after 14 minutes to be honest, it's making me angry.
I want to point out that this is excellent humor. Said of a 14:03 video: I stopped watching after 14 minutes. It made me so angry.
@@jamesdewane1705 It's the Irish humour with the anger ;-)
This guy is an embarrassment to Americans in general, not just Irish-Americans.
Way to go on minimising and mocking every part of our country’s oppression through the years and the genocide that was the famine ! Pair of muppets !
The american fella thinks its funny of what happened a 1 million people died an he makes a mockery of it big dopey yank wouldn't know what history was if it hit square in the face the idiot
Fun fact: In Dublin at the GPO (it’s a post office) there’s bullet holes from the 1916 rising in pillars outside the post office.you can put your finger in it 😂
Also:I brought my friend that’s American to it and she was like “Omg I put my finger in an Irish bullet hole!!” 😂
Aisling Joyce the general post office the main base of the rebellion
Fingerin the GPOs gee
I put my finger in some. (:
She’s a dope
Aisling Joyce aye ikr
Evan you silly eejit
One thing missed when they talked about the potatoe blight, the vast irish death rate was also down to the British taking majority of the food so there was very little food left for the irish to eat.
Also I'm not fully sure about how the irish history is being taught in other countries but we went through slavery, mistreated when we went to Britian being characterised in the same level as dogs
Yes. My gran had apartments to ket, everyone else's said: no blacks, no dogs, no irish. Not my man though.
The north was the industrial capital of Ireland, and therefore was gerrymandered to have a loyal populace to the UK. It was created as a ‘Protestant state for a Protestant people’. They are now a minority in less than a hundred years
AS A PERSON FROM NORTHERN IRELAND, THIS IS BRILLIANT
Stan talent, Stan bts. yes loving it!
Stan talent, Stan bts. I'm from Northern Ireland and i see you have great music taste 😏
Lauren Murdoch Northern irish ARMY 💖
Stan talent, Stan bts. samee
Stan talent, Stan bts. It's not very often i find another Northern Irish ARMY 😂
the problem i have with the secondary school teaching of irish history (in ireland) is that of course it has to be censored a bit because of how gruesome and horrific our history really is, but it's really just the facts. it's not just "la dee da" trying to gain independence, it's religious persecution, bombings, starvation, execution etc. i just think that people need to not brush it off as much and to understand why it is something that can never be forgiven. it's something the country will never fully come back from.
Well I don't know how your school has been teaching lrish history but I can assure you mine has definitely not left out a single gory detail and my friends schools (both catholic and Protestant) have also not done so.
I remember primary school was all about the famine, where we even grew potatoes, which got blight, so we could experience how shite the situation was. We still got potatoes though, as we'd been growing extra in the school garden, so that was a pointless.
Secondary school I did literally two years of history; first year, and transition year. Both of which were more Romans, Egyptians, and other ancient civilisations in first year, and a serious glossing over of various wars, and mostly the history of America in TY.
Leaving cert art history was the best, and I only learnt so much and was interested because my teacher loved it so much. There's a serious problem with how history is taught here, and they just expect you to know without really teaching very much :/
I should say; leaving cert art history was mostly ancient Irish history and prehistory. I love history, but found British history more interesting as a kid - horrible histories helped that. If you have a great history teacher, then major events won't be glossed over, but I think they are few and far between, and if you aren't interested ten you won't bother yourself to learn about it. I know they glossed over, but as your man said, this is stuff he learnt in secondary school. I've only been out of school a year, and I barely remember how to do maths. So I don't blame him for forgetting a few details - we're only human. Although when in doubt, Google is your friend.
Relax they're obviously not going to be discussing stuff like that in a video that's meant to be comedic
Níamh if it's supposed to be comical they shouldn't have chosen this sensitive topic to make ppl laugh about starvation,death,bombings and the British not giving us equally rights!
This was glorious, absolutely glorious. As an irish person and a history major i think this is your best video
irish was the majority spoken language before the famine.
no it wasn't
Sean's American accent of "oh my god" at 11:18 was the best part of the video
Ashley Good it really was
yes! xD
neempf
thank u
Niamh Twohig we share a name. We also had the same reaction😂😂
Niamh Twohig same
Niamh Stimpson legit😂
Crazy-British-chick 😂😂
relatable meme
You didn’t mention that the last British officer didn’t leave northern Ireland until 2009 due to the troubles
What does that mean ?
I am unintentionally watching this on Saint Patrick's day and I'm not sure how I feel about it
Same
The famine was very much the British's fault because one of the main reasons we were dependant on potatoes as our main crop was due to all the rest being shipped to Britain. But yes the famine 'relief' made it a lot worse since the guy in charge thought the Irish deserved to die.
But yeah, good video. Well done on trying to learn.
HarrietTwelveThree would you call the famine a genocide?
Brigid Flynn the famine wasn't a genocide lmao it was caused by potato blight?? the reason the british were at fault was that they provided literally 0 relief for irish people, but the death rate could have been dramatically lowered if the irish didn't solely rely on the potato crop to live
Asha Elise I don't feel like I know about the famine in enough detail to say whether it was genocide or not but the Irish people were only so reliant on potatoes because their other crops and livestock were being exported by the British. Whether the famine was genocide or not is debated by many. I do feel it's much more complicated than a lot of people realise.
+Asha Elise A lot of the reason Irish people relied so heavily on potatoes was because Catholic landowners we forced to split their land equally amongst all of their children. This meant Catholics had tiny plots of land and the only thing that would grow enough calories to feed a family was potatoes. So it's largely due to the british that the Irish were so dependent on potatoes. Also, the blight caused a potato shortage but there's was plenty of other food in the country, but this was being brought out of Ireland under armed guard. How can you say it wasn't the Brits fault when they're literally the people who caused a food shortage? Irish people were paid tiny amount to grow crops of food for absentee landlords and were arrested/deported if they took any of that food for themselves. There 100% was food in Ireland at the time, but the British did not allow them any of it (except if they built famine roads or became protestant aka taking the soup)
Aislinn G There was Irish landlords who were just as bad, the Irish famine was caused by a complex web of social, economic and environmental issues, yet you will just blame it all on the British, not to mention, well into independence people were still dying of malnutrition, there was food available to buy but most people couldn't afford it. Also most of the food may have been exported, but this is not a cause for the famine as this never caused any problems previously.
Somehow simultaneously offensive, funny and accurate and wrong all at the same time, and I'm not sure how 🤷♀️ Edit: I should add I'm from NI and had family affected by both sides
This makes me wanna scream and laugh at the same time as a Northern Irish resident person thing
Same
The word is 'citizen'
I live in Tyrone on the border with Donegal.
@@Emerald__Ace Oh do you have the cross the border for necessities and whatnot?
Love how he explains the stuggle for freedom as " the irish was like we want freedom and the brits were like nah"
"The Normans invaded and that began-" "From where?" "...from Normandy" "From France?!" I don't know why but this made me cackle lmao
Thanks for all the info, but I just thought it was cute that Evan was confused where Normans were from. I'm actually from the Channel Islands and we used to be a part of the Duchy of Normandy, and have a lot of French culture and history.
I think it's important to remind people that these tribes and groups have moved across Europe over time. I think it's great to have a national identity and to be proud of your culture, but people forget too quickly how we are often factually, historically, and sometimes literally related to each other.(Except for the Basques- they're kind of a mystery).
Sean Mac Diarmida The Vikings come from the Germanics, not the Celts. Just a slight detail.
PADRAIG PEARSE! PADRAIG PEARSE! (say it with me lads) PADRAIG PEARSE! PADRAIG PEARSE!
also when Evan said Niamh, I c r i n g e d
Niamh L . Do you know what "me lads " means??!!! Lol
Why start when we were invaded?
You glossed over the 1000 years before that with the Irish Clans and the Irish High King, when the Irish conquered Scotland and Southern England and Iceland....
I watch Sean still now a days, I love the channel " irish trys"
he great
His hairline goes further back then Irish history
jack noonan Irish history goes back over 5,000 years 5,000 years ago the mysterious Newgrange was built we know pretty much nothing about who built it and why except speculation
jack noonan 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sodaking6858 It was a joke. Calm ur tits
jack noonan 😂
Jaysus😂😂👏👏
During the famine it was bad because we had loads of other crops but we were not allowed to eat them as they were for the British
They were on British land.
As was given in payment to the likes of Richard "Strongbow" DeClare who became King of Leinster by marriage to Diarmaid MacMurchada's daughter, Aoife.
The same Diarmaid MacMurchada who swore fealty to Henry II.
If the land is not yours, why do you think you would be entitled to it's produce?
You were there?
@@ReverseDrive500 Don't need to be, there's plenty of information available. All you need to is look.
Of course, I'd like to know where @Sky Adele got their information from. Probably the same history books printed by the Folens Printing Company. And the more you know about Albert Folens....
@@suolasfilms sooo we weren't entitled to food?? So We had to starve because we didnt own the land. We had to work to grow the food and we didnt get any of it just because the British were controlling us?
@suolasfilms the problem was that it was never their land to begin with. During the plantations the farmers were physically forced from their land by the British and then told they could work on it to survive. They were forced to be dependant on the potato.
Lmao, Dublin the amount of Potato’s... that made laugh, love it... 🔔Smashed the Bell🔔 and Smashed the 👍LIKES👍
I'm sorry but Troubles jokes are only remotely acceptable when made by an Irish person.
The troubles explain why so many old people have big vegetable patches, got to use that fertiliser somehow...
excited to watch and hopefully i didn't make a balls of this but SURE LOOK BE GRAND ❤
Seán Connolly best surprise to find in my sub box!
I LOVE THIS but you forgot about the plantations! (specifically the Cromwellian plantation)
And internment, internment was a pretty big thing, and the Orange Order and political party paramilitary connections, and the way some British soldiers treated people, and the whole bit about civil rights, and tbh a lot of other shite that was pretty important
the aftermath of the rising, guerilla warfare, the black and tans, etc
Seán Connolly You did great materino
ughhhhh I am just so annoyed by this american guy not taking it seriously....."a million dead" ..." not as bad as i thought" seriously????
Yep, we're a small country.
it's not so much that he's not taking it seriously, it's that he's not comparing it the right way. 1 million people die in the unites states every 6 months, roughly, so we roll right over that number. but there's 330 million + of us, not 5 million.
Violeta Z phrase half our population dead not as bad as I thought in his head crap I wanted all of them to die
OMG he's such an ass!!!!
he was being sarcastic
After watching this video and reading many of the comments I've come up with a few points: This isn't your (Evan's) best moment, the biggest positive is that people are learning about history by reading the comments and then doing a little more reading on their own and, I have been inspired to do more reading about Irish history. Like many others in the US, I am of Irish descent. I really loved my visit to Ireland and recommend anyone interested should visit too. AND study Irish history before you go.
A lot of people seem to thing Americans are claiming to be Irish citizens or something when we talk about our ancestry. That’s just a misunderstanding. We’re all Americans, yet at the same time unless we’re Natives we’re all also immigrants- or invaders, depending on how you look at it. So in addition to being American we identify with our ancestors origins. Like if you’re descended from Chinese citizens you tell people you’re Chinese, but nobody assumes you mean you were born in China when you say that.
The thing is, the rest of the world interprets it differently
I'm Northern Irish and my dog is from Tipperary
best comment
Johnnie Warke ok well I don't give a Shit you Fucking prod
Tipperary has a sewage problem it smells like shit
but the dogs a catholic
Bring your dog back to where it belongs
im supprised he didnt talk about the slavery and indentured servents aka short term slaves
yeah right, it took so long for the Irish to be recognized as 'white', like as a people who were entitled to the classic white privileges. and even in European schools they never mention this early European phase of colonialism. Like it all started there, although it obvs wasn't as horrendous as colonization of the Americas/ the slave trade/ etc. that followed
Mimi Robin what was also not mentioned was it wasn't until 1969 the Catholics got the right to vote in NI.
Think about that, NI was 5 years behind America, who had just finished segregation.
Indentured servants could not pay for their passage to America. They served Brits for 7 years, and were free after. Technically, this is not slavery. It was a contract; passage for work. The Irish got a bad deal, but they were not forced into the deal. Slavery is buying a human and making them work as if they are your property. Servants are not property.
Honestly, as someone who is Irish and half African American, all this "Irish Slaves" shite really gets on my nerves. Indentured servitude and slavery are two different things entirely! The Irish had contracts to serve for a certain amount of time and in exchange they were able to live in the colonies. Yes, as servants they were treated terribly but slaves weren't even considered human. I don't understand how anyone can compare 7 years of servitude to a lifetime of slavery. There is no comparison.
@BevinEllen13 I completely agree with you, I should've started my first comment differently.
i'm northern irish and everyone talks about the troubles still today because most people know someone or are related to someone who was killed in the troubles
Why did yer man skip over the fact that during the Easter Rising(1916), the Brits military strategy was just to shell the fuck out of and essentially destroy Dublin killing thousands of civilians. Quite an important detail. Then afterwards they started executing the signatures of the Proclamation(think of this as Irelands original Declaration of Independence you have in the states except every signature was executed.) Afterwards the Military and policing situation was incredibly toxic and it led people who otherwise were fairly pro-Britain(in Dublin anyway) to sit there and think "They died for something... they died for a free Ireland" then because the brits restricted so many freedoms people became more and more involved in dissident republicanism.
Ah sure jaysus Evan doesn't know a bleeding thing about Irish history
why would I
Evan Edinger your boy there is from facts ain't he?
The US did everything bad and nothing good .Right Flip
Evan Edinger The lads only raken yee, wind yer neck in wee man
The Normans what turned up in Ireland in 1189 were actually WELSH - but they spoke French:)
Yes - Ireland was absorbed into the United Kingdom in 1801.
The spuds failed because of potato blight - but the British were rubbish at providing aid (as most governments were in the 19th century).
MOST Irish people emigrated to (guess where - YES - ENGLAND). The rest went to America and Australia or anywhere where they spoke English.
Ireland was a participant in World War 1. Only a small number of people took part in The Rising ( a few thousand). Over 100,000 Irishmen were actually in the British Army at the time.
The 16 leaders of the Rising were executed.
The Irish Free State was granted "Domnion Status" - so equal to Canada or Australia. Northern Ireland remained part of the UK.
The Civil War ended in 1922/23. DeValera didn't become PM (Taoiseach) until Fianna Fáil won a general election in 1932.
And don't forget in the more recent "Troubles" there were bombings in England outside of London - like Birmingham. Guildford and Warrington.
EricIrl
best comment so far...factual, and not corrupted by sectarian aggression!
EricIrl devalera was a traitor who stabbed Michael Collins in the back
EricIrl you're a brit aren't you
Andrew Duggan makes you look a bit dodgy if you call someone British for saying the facts 😂
EricIrl Britain were a big role in the famine when they didn't help ireland at all
The captions trying to understand Sean's accent are hilarious
The degree of ignorance and the disrespectful attitude of this guy just infuriates me.
Raymundo D who
Who
Not all of the north is Protestants it’s actually nearly 50/50
I'm catholic ,and theres quite alot of us
Aye same
@@lindaquinn5567 yeah same, they are catching up 😂
David stenson Hardly - Unionists can’t even hold on to Belfast anymore. Sinn Fein practically own West Belfast and in the recent elections the SDLP’s Clare Hanna took South, and in North Belfast Sinn Fein’s own John Finucane sent the DUP’s pissy little bitch boy Nigel Dodds packing. The Unionists sphere of influence/control has effectively shrunk to Down and Antrim and recent studies have said that there’s a good chance that the Catholics/Nationalists will become the majority within the Six Counties within 5 years - maybe less. They certainly think it will happen before 10. Irish Republicans now march through Belfast City Centre - so you just keep living in Fantasyland. TAL 🇮🇪
Sean needs to brush up on his history. Lots of important details missed
it's a 12 minute video m8
+Evan Edinger I understand its a 12 minute video but the way he jokingly explained Irish history seemed to downplay the seriousness of the atrocities that occurred.
shush.
Aoife Grace exactly. i just felt that a lot of the more serious details (like the british effect on the famine and the civil rights movement in the north, both of which were vital to understanding the irish pov/history) were brushed over in favour of making the video more light hearted and brit friendly. all the joking and misrepresentation of serious issues just didn't sit right with me and i feel like evan still doesn't understand the gravity of the situation and the real suffering of the irish people under british rule.
When Sean said "hello" in a high voice he sounded like Bosco 😍
I probably know more 'merican history than most 'mericans and I'm from Belfast 😂😂😂
Same😂😂
Same (I'm from Belfast to)
I'm from the U.S and I'd bet money that you DO know more than the average 'merican on u.s history.
Peter Barfoot least i know im in the half of Albania that knows where it is on a map (joke)
''Neif'' I'm cringing so hard but the pun pulled it back
To throw more info in: Before the Rising we were like ''Hi Germany, we don't like Engalnd, you don't like England, can we have some guns to fight them with plz?'' and Geramny was like ''lol sure here's a boat of them'' but then some Brit on watch went for a piss break into the sea and saw the boat so the Brits took it so we had not as many guns for the Rising and that's part of why it flopped. After the 1916 Rising flopped most of the people leading the rebellion were killed, apart from Éamon de Valera, they couldn't kill him because he was American and England were still trying to get the USA to help them in WWI. Éamon de Valera and Micheal Collins used to be besties until the deal with the UK (mentioned at 8:18). After that they were basically the leaders of each side of the Civil War until Micheal died at which point Éamon went ''Nope nope stop this fighting Micheal is dead this kinda my fault this is bad'' and so the Civil War stopped and everyone wanted Éamon to be Prez but he still felt bad over Micheal's death so their mate Douglas Hyde became our first Prez. Éamon did become Prez and Taoiseach (Prime Minster to the non-Irish) later on tho. And I think he's the only guy to do both but I might be wrong. (Btw you can say ''800 years of oppression Brits out'' like stuff in the North but only certain parts like some parts of Derry and Tyrone but yeah don't say it in Belfast.)
Niamh J Kind of wish Dev was just shot too in 1916, know what I mean? And "BRITS OUT" was a very popular slogan shouted and painted around most parts of West and North Belfast, East and South is mainly loyalist but its like a patchwork of loyalists and republican areas. There were several no-go areas for the Brits in Belfast, cops still won't go into certain areas unless in an armoured car :D
I got a minute in and had to stop watching because of Evans mispronunciation/misspelling of Irish names and also the word "fada"
hello mudda hello fadda
Evan Edinger here I am at camp grenada
Evan Edinger ch ch ch ch ch ch ch CHERRY BOMB
meme asmr I know dear jesus
As a Caoimhe, I'm just glad he didn't try haha
I’m from England and I’m in love with your Irish friend. I learned so much.
James Connolly from the 1916 rising is my great, great, great grandfather
cool
Sean mac dermada was my great great great (great?) grand uncle
I know a song about that guy
That’s so cool what
Well u should be proud boi. My grandfather was good friends with Michael Collins. Proud to be Irish
As a Northern Irish person, I approve this history lesson. Also ya we don't want to leave the EU lol help
also there is still a loooooot of tension in the north between catholics and protestants but luckily i'm an atheist so i tend not to get involved
Not really, more Unionist - Nationalist
Sophie really only in Belfast and Lisburn and stuff mostly my school and stuff all joke a lot about it
no one wants to leave the bloody EU anymore aside from Theresa May
Gareth Miskimmin nah i think it's in a lot more places in that, i'm from derry and shit myself anytime i have to set foot in the bogside lmao
jesus don't talk to me about the 1916 rising. I'm sure other Irish students will agree that after the 100 anniversary last year, we've all heard too much...
Ella O'Kelly Oh God yeah
We had like a whole ceremony for it, We had to play tin whistle for it and sing Wake me up by Avicii in Irish
Fairly Løcal Muse Trash the army came and gave us a flash and we raised it in the school yard, and we tried to sing amhrán na bhfiann but barely anyone knew all the words so it was really awkward 😁
I wasn't in school when they gave us our flag I was on holidays lol, I'd say everyone from 2nd class up knew the words to the anthem and everyone else was like "what" Hahah
God yeah don't get me started sweet jesus that was tedious
"We haven't recovered until we all lost the spuds!"😂
Ava Mcilkenny we have plenty of spuds now
I’m English and I wish we actually learnt about this in school - I’ve never been taught a single thing except There Were Irish Troubles (and a teensy bit for context when I learnt Storm on the Island by Seamus Heaney for GCSE)