20 years ago, I was using a Callaway Big Bertha, today, I'm using a Ping G425. I stopped playing for 15 years, so I am re learning and adjusting my game to my 60 year old body..
I love these compairisons with old and new, what would be fun to see is how it works in the hands of a mid to high handicap, no offense Matt but you are a far better ball striker than most.
I played a Ping G20 for yrs. The shaft and head combo just worked for me and still does. I now play a Mizuno and it is less spin but does not "feel" as good as the G20 and I would definitely trade 10 yards of distance for tighter dispersion. The manufacturers play us all for suckers. And we keep running back for more.
I have a G5 12* same shaft in R flex. As soon as the snow melts here in Canada, I start the season with this club and then transition to my 10.5* PXG 0211 driver when my swing returns. Yes, I do lose some distance, but it’s a fairway finder and so easy to hit.
@@aponoypi For me it’s distance (a good 20 yds), 12* to 10.5*, plus I have a lighter shaft in the PXG so I’m guessing a little faster swing speed. My swing speed is only around 90 to start with so 20+ yards is welcome. PXG discount their pricing oftentimes where you can purchase new clubs for a great price.
This is the exact swap I made 4 weeks ago. Had my G2 for 20 years and loved it, never thought tech could really improve my driving, but I was wrong. I've gained 20 yards and consistently hit the same baby draw even off centre. Can't wait to hit it in warm weather with firm fairways. Game changer! Love the videos, could you do one to explain how changing loft and lie affects ball flight as I'd like to go to 9 degrees but at the range it's producing a fade.. thank you 😊
Between the modern ball, maxed out drivers, fitness, modern efficient swing theory, and launch monitor dialing in of ideal numbers it's no wonder everyone is hitting it so far these days on the pro tours. I bet those numbers would be alot closer if they had the same shafts though.
100 percent. That pro launch shaft is very spinny. No one ever takes an old driver head and places a high kick low spin shaft in. If that spin can be brought down to 2300 they would be the same.
@@nomorenonsense I think your right, the argument I always hear is dispersion is so much better on new drivers yet the G2 in this case had better dispersion. I wonder what the numbers would be with the same shafts and a low spin ball being used with the G2. Might get some more distance.
I use an old titanium driver without the 'trampoline' face....just normal roll which works well to straighten out miss hits using the 'gear effect'. I do think the 'trampoline' faces ARE longer when you hit them in the middle...but worse on the miss hits which you've seemed to prove here Matt. For me...hitting the middle of the fairway is more important than gaining one club in distance.
I used and still have tucked away a Mizuno MP001 driver with a fixed glued head and it might not be quite as long but with the "smaller" head speed increases plus it goes straighter due to spin as your tests show. So how much has driver development helped and at what cost? Yes more "forgiveness" across a larger face but it's easier to find the centre of a smaller object than a larger one. BUT we will be told the latest releases will be longer straighter more "forgiving" than any previous models so pre order and BUY our model.
LOL 20 years ago, Matt, I may still have been using the Spalding 1-iron my dad gave me to be my tee club: may I also add that I was/am the runt of the litter and Dad loved "character building".
I won many long drive competitions with the G2 over the years. Moved from it to the G and now the G425. Interestingly on the trackman, the fitter said he couldn't get me a driver that went further than the G2 but the G at the time did provide more forgiveness.
I still have my G2, along with my G425 which I play most of the time. I still hit the G2 very well and almost as long as the G425. The G2 is a trusted, old friend!
No difference. Aslong as you are hitting the same lofted irons to compare there is no benefit. Manufacturers just strengthen their lofts to give the idea you are hitting it further. A set of say g25 irons is still an amazing set.
driver fights are allways fun. sometimes i actually prefer the oldies. i love the callaway big bertha from the 90's as well as the mizuno mp001. my favorite driver from before 2010 is the bridgestone j33r
Had a used G2, I’m thinking it was 11*, but can’t remember. Also had a 3 wood shaft in it and I bombed it. All my buddies bought Taylormade R 9’s when they came out, so I just had to buy one too. Regretted getting rid of that G2 for many years after that.
Interesting comparison. Some more distance, but otherwise... 20 years ago I was using a TaylorMade R510. I was hitting it further than my current driver (Callaway Rogue), but then again I was 20 years younger (63 now!). I find the consistency better with my Rogue, the opposite of your experience. One thing that's certainly changed in 20 years...the price :)
These are nice videos goes to show you can still pick up a cheap old driver and get good nbers don't nessicarily need the latest and greatest personally I would prefer the dispersion over a couple extra yards
I was using a Cobra SZ400 Offset I think. Was there a difference in length between the 2 drivers? I’m wondering if the G2 was shorter if that didn’t help improve dispersion with the G2. I really enjoy this type of content, thanks!
I have a Ping G2 still sitting in my garage, after many rounds the shaft actually broke under the grip and I never got it reshafted, but one of these days I will fix it lol
As long as it’s not a shaft that was put on afterwards, it should still be in warranty. Every Ping club that I’ve ever owned has had a lifetime warranty
Interesting test Matt. I could live with 11 yards if i was saving probably £400 😂. I had a G5 driver back in the day but my best performing was a Yonex V Mass 320, it went well.
So half a yard in length a year but a loss in accuracy. If you were fitting someone how much length would you give up for increased accuracy, or how much accuracy would you give up to gain length? Still as long as we all believe next years model will be so much better, despite pretty much everything being at the legal max now the manufacturers have nothing to worry about. I wonder if we will see one youtube review saying next years model is worse than this years? Great review BTW.
The modern drivers have much larger misses in the hands of weekend golfers. I still use a titanium driver from 2004 and watch all my amateur friends looking for their ball offline and hitting provisional balls from the tee. Best drive vs best drive yes I am 10 yards behind them but on average I am better off because I have control and no fear of hitting my old driver on tight holes. How far have we come in 20 years? The elite amateurs and professionals have really benefited because of their superior ball striking. How far have weekend golfers come? Simply miles offline
[Haven't watched past 4:40 mark so want to see if predictions are correct] 1. Even in the early Aughts, the Prolaunch Blue was a very low-torque design, I believe
It looks like I overestimated the differences and am surprised, perhaps impressed by the G2's performance in this test. Nicely done, Matt. I'm a sole proprietor owner/operator of a small, full-service golf shop in Somerville, MA just outside of Boston, and I'm a club fitter and designer, explaining my predictions above. Cheers, mate!
WEIRD timing .. never hit a ping driver before .. went to PGA store yesterday shopping for a stealth driver .. ended up trying the G430 max and LOVED it .. I’m gonna end up getting that instead of the stealth I originally went for
Best choice you can make. Stealth carbon face has been having quality issues. So if you plan to use for a few years get the ping. Ping will hold its value better aswell.
From my understanding there was a period of time that cor limit on driver face was 0.86 from 2003-2008. If some of these older drivers were .86 vs the now .83 they would still be very competitive but not "legal" to play? 86% efficiency will still be pretty competitive vs 83%. If they were both measured to see if their CT/COR numbers were comparable.
Great comparison Matt. Not great surprises there tbh. Although the speed you picked up at TM Kingdom, has that dropped off because you were bombing it there Matt? 💪🏻
I bet if the dynamic loft was the same, the results would have been the same. More loft on the old driver equals higher launch, less ball speed and more spin.
Good review Matt. Personally I think there is a lot of marketing Bulsh spun by some of the Club manufacturers when it comes to technology and the annual club launch spin season...... Bigger... better....Longer.... more tech etc!!!
You have to do these tests with a couple of amateur golfers, maybe an 8 and an 18 handicap. Thats where we will see the real benefits and advances. As a pro you really should be hitting the middle of the face or there abouts most times which will massively minimise differences. I like these comparisons but think they could be improved massively for the average golfer to relate to.
@@Mattfryergolfcome on Matt, TJ is entirely right… you guys (you, Rick, Peter, you name it) all make these very interesting reviews, but you are pros who play differently from the vast majority of golfers, i.e.the average golfers… that’s the large slice of the market (demand side) which manufacturers aim to as customers… it would be real nice to see these golfers involved in this testing…
When I started I had a stainless steel driver. TM 2000. DROVE it mile and have never seen one like it even though I've tried googling it. That was back in 1987 and it's not a Taylor made
This is my problem I have ive been fishing for the last 15 odd years and kept my VFT hawkeye irons/graphite, Big Bretha 454 in regular flex ,and started up golf again couple of years ago....it carries 250/270 average and known to travel to 300yds(summertime) Everyone says get a new one ,but A what flex . B is it really worth it. and tbf money is a issue so Brand new would be out of the question even the pxg deal at the moment?
Club speed average 100mph upto 110mph....I've tried my friends ping in stiff but I didn't like it, there felt like there was no whip in it plus the head is double the size of mine...but I out drive all my mates and I'm not sure £3/500 justifies an extra 10-20 yards
@@MrB77.6 By the numbers and what a fitter would put you into would be a stiff shaft. Your 454 with a regular will be very soft but if your timing is good will produce some good clubhead speed. Your 454 will also stock be an inch shorter than the modern drivers. Just an attempt by manufactuers to get more clubhead speed to try and show better numbers. I was a custom club fitter for many years and even some long driver guys are going down to softer shafts now. Softer shafts will create more clubhead speed but overall your margin pattern should be a little more spread. I wouldn't give up on a ping driver just yet. Modern stiff shafts are also stiffer than what would be in your 454 let alone having a regular. Shafts fitting the swing are often overlooked and can change distance numbers by about 10 percent if wrong.
After not playing for over 15 years and coming back into the modern era...I don't remember all this shaft technology as it is back then, and timing is a big factor (strawberry blonde) as my friend would say...unfortunately money woe's I'm in no position to be knocking on any doors at this moment in time,but would be interesting to see which nowadays shafts suits my swing .
Young and dumb I bought the taylornade R7 driver and fairway woods, paid stupid money with the wrong upgraded shafts in them that the sales man in the shop recommended just to up the price with no benefit to me, think they cost me around €750 for the three clubs, you wouldn’t get close now with upgraded shafts but it was exspensive at the time
These videos show what a scam modern golf equipment is. If the G2 had a lower spinning shaft that got 2200 there would be no difference in distance. There is a reason manufacturers never do commercials showing previous models against their new ones. It's all marketing that can't be shown by true data.
@@patrickhockey615 haha exactly. What the heck do you think I ment? Kick points of shafts can really effect launch and spin. That pro launch shaft in the G2 is a very spinny shaft (meaning low kick point, higher launch and high spin). Put in a green smoke shaft and that spin rate will drop atleast 600. Potentially even hitting the ball further than the new model.
@@nomorenonsense for example it could be interpreted as, if the drivers had the same shaft they'd have the same numbers. There's still a possibility the head itself is causing a difference in spin, speed, moi etc, which likely is the case over 20 years and even year to year as it's really just moving weight around
20yrs ago i wasnt playing golf maybe 15yrs ago, brosnan , a bear and callaway ft-i, best drive was 302m carry on the green to the back. But i would like to try ping see how it goes.
Just shows its the person swinging the club, not the equipment. as long as golf remains a fasion show they will always sell new drivers for £500 year on year. Im mean come on, the “turbluators” what the fuxx do they actually do😂😂
Pointless for high handicappers to spend £500+ on a driver. Yes they’ll get more distance but if that gain is only, say, 20 to 30yards is it really worth spending that kind of money? I will never spend that much. That said, I buy decent second hand Drivers. Good value for money and good yardage. Tech has come a long way but if every year a new driver delivers to claims of an extra 20 yards, then 400 yards extra on top of the original 200 yard drives will be common place. 600 yard drives?…. 😂😂😂😂. No way can that happen so no way driver improvements over 20 years can can give more than a few yards extra. Turbulators…..a word created by the Marketing dept. Style over content. 11 yards better overall in 20 years on this video. 11 yards…..
Genuinely dull video. I don't get the point of this, no one's going to be going back to a G2 and we know every new driver every year is basically the same thing.
20 years ago, I was using a Callaway Big Bertha, today, I'm using a Ping G425. I stopped playing for 15 years, so I am re learning and adjusting my game to my 60 year old body..
I love these compairisons with old and new, what would be fun to see is how it works in the hands of a mid to high handicap, no offense Matt but you are a far better ball striker than most.
Thank you....might bring in a mid handicapper for some future testing!
I was thinking the same thing. Matt is such a consistent ball striker. I’d love to see this comparison done by a 14 HCP.
I played a Ping G20 for yrs. The shaft and head combo just worked for me and still does. I now play a Mizuno and it is less spin but does not "feel" as good as the G20 and I would definitely trade 10 yards of distance for tighter dispersion. The manufacturers play us all for suckers. And we keep running back for more.
Be interesting to see the numbers on the G2 with a more modern shaft such as the Ventus TR that was used in the newer Ping 🤔
Great video with a surprising result .
20 years ago I used a Wilson firestick driver.
Great video cracking results ! I'm still using my ping g5 now still hits fairways why change it haha
I have a G5 12* same shaft in R flex. As soon as the snow melts here in Canada, I start the season with this club and then transition to my 10.5* PXG 0211 driver when my swing returns. Yes, I do lose some distance, but it’s a fairway finder and so easy to hit.
Good way to get in to it 👍
No bother Tiger…
G5 not the same I have used both and no, just Ping trying to outdo what was alreasy great I still have 2 G2's best club Ping ever made
Thinking of pxg replacement for my g5. Is there a big difference
@@aponoypi For me it’s distance (a good 20 yds), 12* to 10.5*, plus I have a lighter shaft in the PXG so I’m guessing a little faster swing speed. My swing speed is only around 90 to start with so 20+ yards is welcome. PXG discount their pricing oftentimes where you can purchase new clubs for a great price.
This is the exact swap I made 4 weeks ago. Had my G2 for 20 years and loved it, never thought tech could really improve my driving, but I was wrong. I've gained 20 yards and consistently hit the same baby draw even off centre. Can't wait to hit it in warm weather with firm fairways. Game changer! Love the videos, could you do one to explain how changing loft and lie affects ball flight as I'd like to go to 9 degrees but at the range it's producing a fade..
thank you 😊
Between the modern ball, maxed out drivers, fitness, modern efficient swing theory, and launch monitor dialing in of ideal numbers it's no wonder everyone is hitting it so far these days on the pro tours. I bet those numbers would be alot closer if they had the same shafts though.
100 percent. That pro launch shaft is very spinny. No one ever takes an old driver head and places a high kick low spin shaft in. If that spin can be brought down to 2300 they would be the same.
@@nomorenonsense I think your right, the argument I always hear is dispersion is so much better on new drivers yet the G2 in this case had better dispersion. I wonder what the numbers would be with the same shafts and a low spin ball being used with the G2. Might get some more distance.
I actually had the G2 about 20 years ago and it worked reasonably well
I still have the G2 (I bought it new 20 years ago). My grandson now uses it and it still works.
It will they hold the test of time for sure
Still use my Ping G2. Love it
I use an old titanium driver without the 'trampoline' face....just normal roll which works well to straighten out miss hits using the 'gear effect'. I do think the 'trampoline' faces ARE longer when you hit them in the middle...but worse on the miss hits which you've seemed to prove here Matt. For me...hitting the middle of the fairway is more important than gaining one club in distance.
I had a G2 and currently use a G425 max. I do love the adjustability of the 425.
Just upgraded from a Taylormade 10.5 bubble shaft to a ping 425 max, love the ping... Distance and forgiveness...
That's a jump from persimmon to titanium almost 😅😅😅😅😅
I've been using the G2 for 10 years, tried a few newer different models over the years but always go back to the G2.
20 years ago I switched between my Callaway Big Bertha Warbird (graphite thru-the-head, 9˚) and a Cobra King Cobra (steel shafted, 9˚)...
I used and still have tucked away a Mizuno MP001 driver with a fixed glued head and it might not be quite as long but with the "smaller" head speed increases plus it goes straighter due to spin as your tests show. So how much has driver development helped and at what cost? Yes more "forgiveness" across a larger face but it's easier to find the centre of a smaller object than a larger one. BUT we will be told the latest releases will be longer straighter more "forgiving" than any previous models so pre order and BUY our model.
Enjoyed it Matty, keep up the good work.
LOL 20 years ago, Matt, I may still have been using the Spalding 1-iron my dad gave me to be my tee club: may I also add that I was/am the runt of the litter and Dad loved "character building".
I won many long drive competitions with the G2 over the years. Moved from it to the G and now the G425. Interestingly on the trackman, the fitter said he couldn't get me a driver that went further than the G2 but the G at the time did provide more forgiveness.
I still have my G2, along with my G425 which I play most of the time. I still hit the G2 very well and almost as long as the G425. The G2 is a trusted, old friend!
Have you ever done this with irons? Curious how my 2013 irons would compare to current irons
No difference. Aslong as you are hitting the same lofted irons to compare there is no benefit. Manufacturers just strengthen their lofts to give the idea you are hitting it further. A set of say g25 irons is still an amazing set.
When I stopped in 2000 I was using a Mizuno T-Zoid . When I started back in 2022 I got a Cobra F7.
T zoids were great
driver fights are allways fun. sometimes i actually prefer the oldies. i love the callaway big bertha from the 90's as well as the mizuno mp001. my favorite driver from before 2010 is the bridgestone j33r
20 yrs ago I was using Ping G2 & Cleveland launcher.
I would like you to do a review with G400 against the G430
Had a used G2, I’m thinking it was 11*, but can’t remember. Also had a 3 wood shaft in it and I bombed it. All my buddies bought Taylormade R 9’s when they came out, so I just had to buy one too. Regretted getting rid of that G2 for many years after that.
Interesting comparison. Some more distance, but otherwise... 20 years ago I was using a TaylorMade R510. I was hitting it further than my current driver (Callaway Rogue), but then again I was 20 years younger (63 now!). I find the consistency better with my Rogue, the opposite of your experience. One thing that's certainly changed in 20 years...the price :)
These are nice videos goes to show you can still pick up a cheap old driver and get good nbers don't nessicarily need the latest and greatest personally I would prefer the dispersion over a couple extra yards
I was using a Cobra SZ400 Offset I think. Was there a difference in length between the 2 drivers? I’m wondering if the G2 was shorter if that didn’t help improve dispersion with the G2. I really enjoy this type of content, thanks!
My Bobby Jones by Jesse ortis has just lost its crown - my Irons are G2 - maybe I might get the driver to match?
I have a Ping G2 still sitting in my garage, after many rounds the shaft actually broke under the grip and I never got it reshafted, but one of these days I will fix it lol
It will be worth it!
As long as it’s not a shaft that was put on afterwards, it should still be in warranty. Every Ping club that I’ve ever owned has had a lifetime warranty
Interesting test Matt. I could live with 11 yards if i was saving probably £400 😂. I had a G5 driver back in the day but my best performing was a Yonex V Mass 320, it went well.
So half a yard in length a year but a loss in accuracy. If you were fitting someone how much length would you give up for increased accuracy, or how much accuracy would you give up to gain length? Still as long as we all believe next years model will be so much better, despite pretty much everything being at the legal max now the manufacturers have nothing to worry about. I wonder if we will see one youtube review saying next years model is worse than this years? Great review BTW.
The modern drivers have much larger misses in the hands of weekend golfers. I still use a titanium driver from 2004 and watch all my amateur friends looking for their ball offline and hitting provisional balls from the tee. Best drive vs best drive yes I am 10 yards behind them but on average I am better off because I have control and no fear of hitting my old driver on tight holes. How far have we come in 20 years? The elite amateurs and professionals have really benefited because of their superior ball striking. How far have weekend golfers come? Simply miles offline
[Haven't watched past 4:40 mark so want to see if predictions are correct] 1. Even in the early Aughts, the Prolaunch Blue was a very low-torque design, I believe
It looks like I overestimated the differences and am surprised, perhaps impressed by the G2's performance in this test. Nicely done, Matt. I'm a sole proprietor owner/operator of a small, full-service golf shop in Somerville, MA just outside of Boston, and I'm a club fitter and designer, explaining my predictions above. Cheers, mate!
20 years ago I played with the Adams tight lies driver now I use a rogue st max driver
That was with the callaway ft-i i only hit one shot like that.
Haven’t played in 13 years but just dusted off my G2 and it still looks and feels sweet.
I have an SLDR (non-adjustable & no weights/track) - finds the fairway and just about keep up with my mates in distance..
I am still using a ping g5. Looking for a new driver.
WEIRD timing .. never hit a ping driver before .. went to PGA store yesterday shopping for a stealth driver .. ended up trying the G430 max and LOVED it .. I’m gonna end up getting that instead of the stealth I originally went for
Best choice you can make. Stealth carbon face has been having quality issues. So if you plan to use for a few years get the ping. Ping will hold its value better aswell.
From my understanding there was a period of time that cor limit on driver face was 0.86 from 2003-2008. If some of these older drivers were .86 vs the now .83 they would still be very competitive but not "legal" to play? 86% efficiency will still be pretty competitive vs 83%. If they were both measured to see if their CT/COR numbers were comparable.
Great comparison Matt. Not great surprises there tbh. Although the speed you picked up at TM Kingdom, has that dropped off because you were bombing it there Matt? 💪🏻
I bet if the dynamic loft was the same, the results would have been the same.
More loft on the old driver equals higher launch, less ball speed and more spin.
Just bought a 2008 Bridgestone head for $24 and a new shaft for $29 and a grip for $6. New driver.
good to see those comparisons BUT you need a mid-handicapper to get a real view of how more forgiving the G430 is , I know i had G2
In 2003 I was hitting a Top Flite X2 in 12⁰. Hit it beautifully until I split the crown.
11 degree Riviera Big Brother with a Leyland shaft,Callaway knockoff .I still have it somewhere
The 11 yards was down to the spin and launch angle. Not the clubs age.
Good review Matt. Personally I think there is a lot of marketing Bulsh spun by some of the Club manufacturers when it comes to technology and the annual club launch spin season...... Bigger... better....Longer.... more tech etc!!!
You have to do these tests with a couple of amateur golfers, maybe an 8 and an 18 handicap. Thats where we will see the real benefits and advances. As a pro you really should be hitting the middle of the face or there abouts most times which will massively minimise differences. I like these comparisons but think they could be improved massively for the average golfer to relate to.
I don't hit the middle that often
@@Mattfryergolfcome on Matt, TJ is entirely right… you guys (you, Rick, Peter, you name it) all make these very interesting reviews, but you are pros who play differently from the vast majority of golfers, i.e.the average golfers… that’s the large slice of the market (demand side) which manufacturers aim to as customers… it would be real nice to see these golfers involved in this testing…
When I started I had a stainless steel driver. TM 2000. DROVE it mile and have never seen one like it even though I've tried googling it. That was back in 1987 and it's not a Taylor made
I played a Cobra SS370 unlimited, the best driver I have ever owned
I was using the TaylorMade R540
This is my problem I have ive been fishing for the last 15 odd years and kept my VFT hawkeye irons/graphite, Big Bretha 454 in regular flex ,and started up golf again couple of years ago....it carries 250/270 average and known to travel to 300yds(summertime)
Everyone says get a new one ,but A what flex . B is it really worth it. and tbf money is a issue so Brand new would be out of the question even the pxg deal at the moment?
Depending on your clubhead head speed for shaft get yourself a ping g400 max. One of the best and forgiving drivers ever made.
Club speed average 100mph upto 110mph....I've tried my friends ping in stiff but I didn't like it, there felt like there
was no whip in it plus the head is double the size of mine...but I out drive all my mates and I'm not sure £3/500 justifies an extra 10-20 yards
Plus the old girl still looks brand new no sky marks
@@MrB77.6 By the numbers and what a fitter would put you into would be a stiff shaft. Your 454 with a regular will be very soft but if your timing is good will produce some good clubhead speed. Your 454 will also stock be an inch shorter than the modern drivers. Just an attempt by manufactuers to get more clubhead speed to try and show better numbers. I was a custom club fitter for many years and even some long driver guys are going down to softer shafts now. Softer shafts will create more clubhead speed but overall your margin pattern should be a little more spread. I wouldn't give up on a ping driver just yet. Modern stiff shafts are also stiffer than what would be in your 454 let alone having a regular. Shafts fitting the swing are often overlooked and can change distance numbers by about 10 percent if wrong.
After not playing for over 15 years and coming back into the modern era...I don't remember all this shaft technology as it is back then, and timing is a big factor (strawberry blonde) as my friend would say...unfortunately money woe's I'm in no position to be knocking on any doors at this moment in time,but would be interesting to see which nowadays shafts suits my swing .
shaft the same length?
Old mizuno vs new mizuno ?
I hit my old ping over 300 yards. I'd love to try a new one
Believe it or not...I was playing a 7° G2. That was before adjustability in a golf club was legal.
I’ve always used 2nd hand clubs and limit my budget but probably spend most money on clothing
Bought a G2 for €10 in a thrift store a year ago and have never hit the ball better with a driver than now. Nobody believes it only costed me €10 😊
Cobra 8.5 offset very small compared to ltdx😁👍
Young and dumb I bought the taylornade R7 driver and fairway woods, paid stupid money with the wrong upgraded shafts in them that the sales man in the shop recommended just to up the price with no benefit to me, think they cost me around €750 for the three clubs, you wouldn’t get close now with upgraded shafts but it was exspensive at the time
These videos show what a scam modern golf equipment is. If the G2 had a lower spinning shaft that got 2200 there would be no difference in distance. There is a reason manufacturers never do commercials showing previous models against their new ones. It's all marketing that can't be shown by true data.
Not as much a scam but when one talks forgiveness of a club head, you're really nearly splitting hairs😶
Shafts don't spin. They change other variables that may affect spin.
@@patrickhockey615 haha exactly. What the heck do you think I ment? Kick points of shafts can really effect launch and spin. That pro launch shaft in the G2 is a very spinny shaft (meaning low kick point, higher launch and high spin). Put in a green smoke shaft and that spin rate will drop atleast 600. Potentially even hitting the ball further than the new model.
@@nomorenonsense for example it could be interpreted as, if the drivers had the same shaft they'd have the same numbers. There's still a possibility the head itself is causing a difference in spin, speed, moi etc, which likely is the case over 20 years and even year to year as it's really just moving weight around
It’s a shame the heads weren’t spotted, sure the dynamic loft would have explained the differences.
I was using a cobra LD.
Great driver
I’ve crunched the numbers and have figured out I can actually afford the Ping G2…no so much the G430
Bought a g2 recently. Excellent condition with head cover £40. Love it
R540 still got it somewhere in garage
Seems the g2 almost wins. Dispersion for me being v important
Yep you'd find a lot of fairways for sure
Agreed... +10 yards not much use in the rough.
The biggest difference for the pros is they all in the gym and approaching the game differently.
20yrs ago i wasnt playing golf maybe 15yrs ago, brosnan , a bear and callaway ft-i, best drive was 302m carry on the green to the back. But i would like to try ping see how it goes.
King Cobra Ti 8.5
I'll do my 975D vs my tsi 3
That would be a great test! I loved the 975d
Seems like all the same content does it rounds amongst the golf UA-camrs . I’m Sure I’ve seen this exact one with rick shiels
@@srouse7521 always been a knob then
TaylorMade R580
Given you actually game the modern driver it isn't a fair comparison
YES! just silly! Only way you can compair this! Is with the same shaft
Taylormade TP burner.
Moral of the story is every 20 years you can upgrade - and save thousands waiting...
G2 seems to be more of a fade and G430 set up for draw
Day/video 13 can I have your evnroll yet
Just shows its the person swinging the club, not the equipment. as long as golf remains a fasion show they will always sell new drivers for £500 year on year. Im mean come on, the “turbluators” what the fuxx do they actually do😂😂
Pointless for high handicappers to spend £500+ on a driver. Yes they’ll get more distance but if that gain is only, say, 20 to 30yards is it really worth spending that kind of money? I will never spend that much. That said, I buy decent second hand Drivers. Good value for money and good yardage. Tech has come a long way but if every year a new driver delivers to claims of an extra 20 yards, then 400 yards extra on top of the original 200 yard drives will be common place. 600 yard drives?…. 😂😂😂😂. No way can that happen so no way driver improvements over 20 years can can give more than a few yards extra. Turbulators…..a word created by the Marketing dept. Style over content. 11 yards better overall in 20 years on this video. 11 yards…..
I hope the PING designers see this video and get rid of the damn turbulators for all future drivers since they do NOTHING and look hideous.
U cannot compare these 2? The G model Ping drivers SUCKED!
Genuinely dull video. I don't get the point of this, no one's going to be going back to a G2 and we know every new driver every year is basically the same thing.
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