Burnt Umber vs Van Dyck Brown

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @AzazelUmbra
    @AzazelUmbra 2 роки тому +8

    i dont know how i got here but this is fantastic
    thank you youtube algorithm

  • @palnagok1720
    @palnagok1720 Рік тому +3

    This series is great , now I can understand why you have so many colours in your line up...we get many options in mixing what effect we are after. Cheers.

  • @beetyrant9511
    @beetyrant9511 2 роки тому +7

    Best paints, best guides.

  • @ms.rocketscience4924
    @ms.rocketscience4924 Рік тому +2

    This video popped up in my feed today and I am so glad! This info is very useful. Thank you!

  • @luvjay19
    @luvjay19 Рік тому +2

    I use winsor artist oil colors and I can tell you the most current van dyke brown they have made is so close to burnt umber you cannot tell !

  • @lrvz7187
    @lrvz7187 2 роки тому +6

    Hello! any chance you guys could make a video with the red earth color? thank you! love the videos!
    Edit: maybe comparing it with English red, Venetian red, and persian (indian) red? just a sugestion! I would be happy to see red earth color on any setting / comparison!

    • @oldhollandclassiccolours2759
      @oldhollandclassiccolours2759  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much! And thanks for your input!

    • @LennaertKoorman
      @LennaertKoorman 2 роки тому +3

      Hi Lrv z, Thank you for your feedback and input! We will certainly consider your proposal for a video about Red Earth vs other red colors. But first, there are a number of other colors on the schedule. Ciao

  • @davidhanna5640
    @davidhanna5640 Рік тому +2

    Very helpful video. Thank you.

  • @jeanbigboute
    @jeanbigboute Рік тому +3

    Any chance of a new video in this series?

    • @LennaertKoorman
      @LennaertKoorman Рік тому +3

      @jeanbigboute, Thanx for asking! Sure, we had a little delay, but are currently working on a new video. Coming soon.

  • @jeanbigboute
    @jeanbigboute 2 роки тому +4

    Well worth the wait! Could this be part of a Zorn palette like in many other videos?

    • @LennaertKoorman
      @LennaertKoorman 2 роки тому +4

      @Jean Bigboute, Thank you for your patience and appreciation. In answer to your question, yes, you could use this in a Zorn-like palette. In this case, you could replace the black from the Zorn palette with Van Dyck Brown. That way, you get a slightly warmer 'black' than with Ivory black. However, this will reduce your strongly cool colors. You could just give it a try and see if you like it. Lots of fun!

    • @jeanbigboute
      @jeanbigboute 2 роки тому

      @@LennaertKoorman Product idea: Zorn sampler kits so non-artists can replicate the palettes we enjoy in your videos. Four sample-sized tubes, a small canvas, and the mixing tool. Collect them all!

    • @oldhollandclassiccolours2759
      @oldhollandclassiccolours2759  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much for following us. Yes, it can. See the answer of our great video maker Lennaert below.

  • @dumuzibadgurgurru8050
    @dumuzibadgurgurru8050 2 роки тому +3

    Van Dyck Brown is my favorite.

  • @XLM7000
    @XLM7000 2 місяці тому +4

    Your films are very good, but I have to ask: why did you change the formula in the 1980s to include Castor Wax? This addition is unnecessary and should not be in oil paint, as it damages the painting over time. If I wanted to add Castor Wax, I would buy it separately or use cheaper paints like Lefranc Louvre oils.

    • @GuitarraConAndres
      @GuitarraConAndres Місяць тому +1

      That's why I use Michael Harding paint. Nothing other than linseed oil and pigment!

    • @XLM7000
      @XLM7000 Місяць тому

      ​@@GuitarraConAndres Until I see the results from a mass spectrometer, I don’t trust manufacturers or consumer tests. Old Holland also claims it’s just oil and pigment. Mrs. F. C. Izzo from the University of Venice conducted research on oil paints from Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Winsor & Newton Artist, Old Holland, and Maimeri. In another study, she compared the behavior of pure cobalt blue pigment with linseed oil to these paints. I recommend this fascinating research.
      Regarding consumer testing, I recently read a blog with a tier list where the highest-rated paints were those based on poppy oil. As we know, under the right conditions, poppy oil can soften again after two years, even if the paint seems hard due to the presence of resins like damar, since poppy oil does not dry.
      Concerning the formulation "just oil and pigment," it is not possible to industrially produce ultramarine without wax.
      Don’t trust manufacturers or consumer tests; rely only on scientific research at the university level, such as the studies conducted by Mrs. Francesca Caterina Izzo.

  • @susytearne7590
    @susytearne7590 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @kristinclark4767
    @kristinclark4767 Рік тому +1

    Doesn’t Van Dyke brown have black in it? Couldn’t you just add a little black to your burnt umber for similar effect?

    • @LennaertKoorman
      @LennaertKoorman Рік тому +2

      @kristinclark4767, Hi there, it is correct that Van Dyke Brown contains black pigment, PBL 9 / Bone Black, so you can definitely mute down your Burnt Umber a lot with Black, but it will probably still be a lot warmer / reddish Browns than the more Grayish Van Dyke Brown is. But just play with it and try it out. Hope that helps.

  • @johncolter6743
    @johncolter6743 4 місяці тому +1

    Burnt Umber will oxidize and change color when it dries. It will get chalky look...loose any transparencey...change value and saturation. Oiling out or varnish will bring back the qualities of when the paint was wet. Even with linseed oil the paint oxidizes. It's maddening and I would just about throw it out of pallette line up but it's so useful I keep it. Burnt Umber and Ult BLue make fantastic black that can be cooled or warmed to what you want.

  • @jimqartworks
    @jimqartworks 2 роки тому +2

    awesome, I love your paints, using it for my portraits, my fave are, mars brown, caput mortuum, red earth (flesh ochre) just to name a few.