I Got SCAMMED Buying This FAKE John Cooper Works Mini Cooper
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- I found a cheap John Cooper Works Mini Cooper on FB Marketplace so I went and bought, sure it's been hit on every side but it runs, drives, and it was unbelievably cheap. Once I got it back to the shop I found out it was anything but a John Cooper Works, it just has a couple random JCW parts slapped on it.
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I'm a mini addict myself.
from 2007-2010 MINI produced this R56 with the N14 for the cooper S and the John Cooper Works.
The code for the engine is just slightly different: N14B16A for the S and N14B16C for the JCW.
from 2010-2013 MINI produced the LCI (facelift) R56 with the N18. Same story as above.
There was an option from factory to get the 'aero-kit'. With this kit your Cooper S would look the same as the JCW but you would still have the S type of the engine.
From 2007-2009 there was not a real JCW yet, the best thing you could get was the JCW tuning kit. This bumped the number from 174 hp to 192 hp and 240 Nm to 280 Nm.
With the JCW tuning kit you got an extra badge on your trunk/boot with the 'old style' JCW logo.
A normal JCW would only have the JCW logo on the back, it would not mention Cooper S anywhere.
If you need some more info, I can always try to help you out :)
Addition to this:
The car in video is clearly only a Cooper S:
Normal Cooper S exhaust, no big Brembo Brake kit, no dark interior roof, no JCW logo in the inside and no JCW badge (instead of the Cooper S) …the headlights are from ebay 🙈
Im sure most people already mentioned this but, The hidden glove box had a special emblem that most people miss. No logo under the bonnet on the airbox the lower grill had the jcw emblem. The boot never said cooper s it just had the jcw emblem. Exhaust tips never had jcw emblems. The floor mats were checkered (at least mine are), the middle gauge cluster was dark and not white inless you got the infotainment screen. Front Brakes had jcw logo on them.
Add 2011 to that. In 2011, the S version got the N18, but JCW apparently had engines left over for another year of production. That is a shame putting a much better engine in a lower level equipped car, and leaving your signature level with prior junk.
A lot of dealers added all the JCW trim stuff to their cars as a dress-up kit
Except for the timing chain tensioner issue, the valve cover PCV system issue, high pressure fuel pump failures, plastic water pipe running to the water pump cracking, the thermostat housing leaking , the water pump leaking and the oil cooler seals failing that engine pretty reliable.
Mini’s, all the problems and expense of a 7 series BMW without the comfort or prestige.
You forgot about the valve coking, then breaking off onto the cylinder, scoring the wall, and creating oil consumption.
Man that just sucks. I try not to be an ass about things, but I'd absolutely put the seller on blast. There (sadly) may not be any legal recourse available, but you sure as hell can make sure everyone knows exactly who NOT to buy a car from.
Who knows, the previous owner could’ve bought it off someone thinking it was a JCW. For the price JR paid I don’t think he was trying to rip him off. If he had bad intentions he probably could’ve sent it to auction for more money
@@bmxdenver1 no way he lied to him with the carfax, he knew.
Seller lied - there is no way that's a JCW. And the seller isn't very knowledgeable about them if he thought a 2012 Mini Cooper S was "an R52"... nope!
Dude paid $1200 bucks for it. And will make at least twice that parting it out. I don't see any problem or downside to the transaction, soooo, the seller's legit and JR is just (fake) whining to justify his click-bait title!
@@johntilson2535 ok man if you like scammers dont cry when somebody screws you over
You could get the JCW aero body kit from dealer when buying the car new and should have JCW badge on the bottom of the steering wheel and red numbers on the gear knob along with JCW sill plates. You’ve got an R56 Cooper S with JCW kit.
The car sales place next to where I work in the UK has exactly the same spec car which I’ve been trying to buy off him for over a year but he won’t sell any of his scruffy cars!!!
It will have either the N16 or N18 engine dependant on year, N18 being later and better.
They are aftermarket headlamps
The real JCW did not get the n18 engine until 2013 and the S got the n18 in 10 or 11
3:58 When you mentioned JCW, I told myself JC Whitney! (wha wha whaaa)
Throwing it way back 💯
@@WatchJRGo I think that this car has more in common with JC Whitney than John Cooper Works.
I thought that, too! Lol
Thank you JR for being mr consistency with regards to uploading frequency.
Hi JR, that’s a Cooper S with the JCW exterior appearance package which was a factory option. The headlights are after market to resemble the F-series models (2014+)
My daughter have a 2007 Cooper S Supercharged. We got a tuning certificate with the owners manual. The changes I know off is the lower suspension, underdrive supercharger pulley, exhaust, wheels and interior. Hers is the " Parklane" edition with the silver roof and parklane badges on the B pillars and on the sills. Beautiful little car, surprisingly fast but not cheap to own....
Friend of mine had a 2011 JCW Mini that was heavily modified. Made around 485 at the wheels. That thing was a MISSLE, and an experience to drive. Sadly, a blowout at the drag strip sent it into the wall, and then she went for a tumble. Completely totaled. Thankfully he walked away with just some scrapes and bruises though.
Old adage comes to mind.
You get what you pay for.
Sounds to good to be true, probably isn't....😮
My son had a Mini that had some John Cooper Works trim items on it. I spent some time on the internet and found that there were some factory or dealer option that was just a trim kit with no performance up grades. It's been a few years, so I don't remember all the details. It was a fun car. I sold it for my son and the first person to test drive it bought it.
The JCW has a different intake and tune on it makin mg over 200hp
@@unmanned_solutions NO, not always, because the dealers scammed people and Broken Motor Werks has ZERO problem with ripping off Americans...
I believe it was called the John Cooper Works appearance package, or something close to that. A friend of mine did the same thing (bought it thinking it was the full JCW package) and immediately sold it when he figured out the difference.
Since bmw owns mini, just like their other cars you can get the jcw package or M sport for bmw. My 15 cooper s had the jcw steering wheel and shifter. Those items were listed on the window sticker
@@nickj583 In the US they don't do that - in Europe they do - they'll have the go-fast bits here in the USA - the very early ones were either from the factory or dealer upgraded and not just a tune - engine work was done to it.
There’s little chance you didn’t know what you were buying. Parting out a Mini is a good series regardless. Don’t love the baiting but will enjoy the follow up videos. Good purchase, start tallying up the parts resale. ROI off the charts for $1,200.
Taking it off the road spared someone the nightmare of ownership.
But when you have a set of handcuffs on your headboard, maybe you enjoy the pain?
I really think there was “additional damage” added after the accident. The passenger side damage checks but the dents on the driver side have no paint transfer. Same thing with the back. I think the previous owner beat the crap out of it after to make sure it was totaled which is funny really because that car would be totaled for a fender bender. Super strange really. Good video. I like a good thinker 😊
Most of the JCW stuffed can be faked you used to be able to buy a kit to spec it. Biggest give away for me was to check the ecu for a JCW sticker. People don't usually change stuff that they can't see
JR you definitely didin't get screwed! The mini has working hood struts! That's at least 5k in value right there.
You are literally the first and only person I have EVER said that mini-cooper was a good vehicle. And I follow a ton of car toobers.
I concur
Although I guess he did say if you want a cooper ... I guess if you have to step in a steaming pile of puppy poo, You would pick the smallest least smelly one
They are a lot of fun to drive, but as they are a BMW plenty of maintenance needed
Drive one and you’ll have a ball 💯
I probably should have clarified. People do seem to love driving them, but mechanics hate them. Constant problems.@@WatchJRGo
The exhaust is a dead give-away, JCW exhaust is is bigger. Also the badge on the back wound not say Cooper S; it would be an oval "John Cooper Works". Pretty sure JCW never came with that interior color. A few other details. Anyway, the wheels alone are worth what you paid for it, so overall not a terrible buy. Screw the guy that lied to you. Lesson learned, life goes on.
Earlier models were Cooper S JCW - today and all F-series looses the Cooper s badges... this model year isn't a year where they had the Cooper S JCW - I ran the VIN on the BMW/MINI site - it's a Cooper S....
On this episode of watch JRGo we talk inside a 55 gallon drum.
I have a 2014 Cooper S with the JCW kit and it actually says on the original build sheet it was ordered with the kit when new... Car is absolutely loaded and love it...
The VIN should decode as a factory JCW vehicle then.
I have a JCW R57 and the biggest difference between the S and JCW is the turbo and manifold, it's bigger. The pistons have lower compression ratio. The rims and body kit. The exhaust. The suspension is stiffer and lower ride height. I believe the rest is optional and customizable.
You need to stop running around with Wes !!! Hes rubbing off on you !!! 😂😂
It’s a Hoovie special! Kind of like his Daytona.
I actually have (2) One is a factory built JCW......The other is a clone I built out of a S. First I'm sure you know there are BMW VIN check/options websites.
There was for quite awhile JCW body kits you could purchase. At one time you could even order them to your paint code and painted at the factory. Pretty sure they are currently only available in primer.
Your R112 wheels are correct. But have the 'MINI' center cars. Should have JCW centers.
Lack of Brembo red brakes calipers and rotors. The rear calipers are the same on both. The S ones wont have the red paint....and there is a taller JCW bracket used to accommodate the larger rear rotors used on JCWs.
Most clones will still have the standard brakes.....along with the 'S' emblems on the front fenders. Many will still have 'S' emblems on the rear. In some cases if you look closely.....you can still see the outline of the Cooper S emblem in the level of paint fade.
Sunroofs. Most US spec S cars will have the sunroof. Most factory built JCWs will not have a sunroof. My factory built JCW has the (for it...rare) sunroof.
Muffler. Dead giveaway. Most (like yours) have what is called the beer can muffler. Looks like the bottom of a beer can. JCW cars will not have that rolled feature at the back of the muffler. Factory JCW mufflers will be just plain chrome tips. Factory JCW kit muffler will have a 'john cooper' logo embossed on the chrome tip.
As for JCWs. Many are correct factory built cars. Many are what is called a port built car. These were converted to 'JCWs' at the shipping port.
Glove box door should have a flag in corner. This little piece of trim can be purchased but is hard to find listed.
Door sills. 2 types of JCW door sill plates. One version plastic.......the other is stamped aluminum. IMO the aluminum are much nicer but they cost a bunch.
No wood trim in JCW. Typically piano black. Most S clones with black interior will still have gray A,B,C pillar trim with gray headliner. JCW would have black headliner and pillar trim. The wood trim with beige seats was a package.....but can't remember what it was called.
Odd the car does have the switch panel for rear fog lamps. Rare in US cars. US cars the dash switch is there.....but no chrome toggle switch part or night time indicator. The rear fog lamp wiring is there tucked in behind bumper skin and can be coded to work.
There are two versions of the front JCW bumper. They both have the same overall shape and look but the inserts etc are different. Not sure why they would spend the money to tool up a different version for the last few years.
Upper JCW grille has a different grille pattern to it vs S models. JCW lower grille matches this pattern. As for lower grille there are two versions. One with the brake cooling ducts.....one without. Good luck finding a lower JCW grille without the brake ducts. I think your stuck buying the brake duct version.
At the very end of production. There were some non turbo cars built with the JCW body parts. So theses cars have all the aero parts.....JCW wheels......but no Brembo brakes......no turbo.....no hood scoop..
The same thing happened to your neighbor Hoovie with a BMW X6 that was sold as an M6 and was not...
I better like Abarth 500
Welcome to JR wrecking and salvage.
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Prrhsps JCW badge on a mini is like an M badge on a Beemer.
BMW actually has an M appearance package called the M Sport which has all of the exterior elements of an M car but still has the standard drivetrain.
they kinda already did that with all of them being coopers, so the jcw is then the cooper-cooper.
bmw calls the base models m-sport now seemingly if it's not xdrive or something. how about a new bmw 520d m-sport for 90k usd or so. .. wonderful thailand prices.
That looks like a later R56 which would have came with the better N18 engine (Still being used by Peugeot/Citroen/Vauxhall, etc) The factory JCW would never have came with a Cooper S badge on the back, but you could get a factory fitted Aero kit (But that is different to the JCW design) or some dealers could hop up a car with JCW branded upgrades. The headlights look like aftermarket replacements, it's probably originally an H4 headlight car. The upgrade option was bi-xenon and a much better headlight for seeing in the dark. I'm not sure the beige interior and that style of seats were possible on a true JCW, but probably part of an option pack for the Mini, maybe a Chilli pack upgrade. For a part out car, you do have some good options, if the roof works that's a third of what you paid easily.
Base f56 also has a turbo, but it's a 1.5 3cyl. The S is a 4cyl turbo.
That's a very weird wreck.. looks like it's been hit multiple times at the four corners. I personally think the 231 hp JCWs almost undriveble at the street due to the 4 wood sticks they call shocks.
This really doesn't look like a factory JCW, but a nicely "made" one. Probably have some profit in specific parts in there. Good luck and sorry for the scam :/
I don't think you can get a real JCW with that woodgrain dash.
My daughter had an 09 base with the 6 speed and it was a fun little car. She used to go to the gas station and fill up the oil and check the gas. Before we rebuilt the engine it used about a quart of oil every 400 miles. She traded it on her XC90.
Depending on the year she bought another oil burner. Hope it was newer than a MY18 model or older than a MY12. Volvo had a bad run for years with burning oil due to the oil rings and too small oil return holes in the pistons. As a lot of manufacturers were trying to squeeze out all the mpg they could get they used thin low tension rings.
I have a 2006 cooper s jcw, the supercharged versions put the turbos to shame every time. It is like driving a 4 seater go-cart, but it is not a car you can loli-gag in when driving it, if you do you will end up in a hedge. My engine has a special numbered plate telling the build affixed to the engine, much like my benz AMG’s.
You definitely bought a Cooper S with possibly a John Cooper Works appearance package, you can buy all of those add ons. The interior is polar beige and was common on the second generation. I had it on my R56s. The engine is still the second generation MINI Peugeot prince engine. It has an improved vanos, updated chain guides and PVC system.
Reminds me of "Storage Wars" TV. I see a unit of junk. They come up with treasure's galore.
For the price u didn’t get screwed
Inside, the John Cooper Works package provides the ultimate luxury in each direction. The hot hatch brings a tailored leather steering wheel with red contrast stitching, Dinamica-finished leather sport seats, sports pedals in stainless steel, as well as GP emblazoned seats and floor mats
JCW package on earlier ones was dealer upgrade. So doubt that would appear on the title. They gave you a certificate instead. Don't know about 2012 though
Love my 2003 cooper S, it’s just an S… but I’ve done all the big things like pulleys, suspension, brakes, clutch and things. It’s broken right now… lol but it’s been my favorite car
Looking forward to the tear down. I have a 2010 S with 100k, was told the motor has a stuck valve. Haven't dug into it yet, but your videos will prove to be helpful to me. 👍
I am a former MINI owner. You have spec'd out R56 S with JCW options. It has a N18 engine which is the best engine in the R56 chasis.
My DIL spent more time with me driving to drop off/pick up her Mini 4 door than she did driving it seemingly. It was a really pretty car, thats why she bought it, but junk all the same. When they moved from OKC to Utah, my son traded it in for a Subau Forester SUV, not sure which year/exact model, but I was so glad they did that. The mini would have never made that drive to Utah. What ever car lot got that one surely beat them down on the trade-in value. I warned her about it and told her to get a mechanic to look at it. SHe asked her mechanic, and he just flat told her- "Don't Buy a Mini Cooper." He looked it over, told her to be sure to get an extended warranty. He also told her when she bought it not to bring it to him to fix it.He said he likes money, but didn't want to take her money for all the repairs. She was a bit miffed, but she figured it out after a few weeks of ownership, when it overheated. Plastic water pipe from the water pump cracked, more than once.
There are tons of good parts, all the glass, the sunroof assembly, the complete interior, etc. You are going to make a lot of money on parts.
An R52 is a first gen (BMW) convertible. We have two S models, an '05 and an '06. They're a bear to work on, but they are the only front wheel drive cars I've ever been in love with. It takes quite a while for the smile on my face to calm down after I've been out in mine.
Hi Kids, Dont ever buy a car without seeing it in the flesh.
I have a 2012 Cooper S which was dealer upgraded to the JCW with door sill plates, badges and ECU. At that time it was not a factory option - dealer fit only. Therefore it still had the Cooper S badges.
FYI, the first generation JCWs were a dealership option initially, and became a factory option as well in 05+
you can instantly tell it is Cooper S. JCW has red brake calipers and bigger ones on the front, different exhaust tail pipes and anthracite dials. It is a regular S with JCW factory trim.
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I enjoy all the content but are we going to get some more house videos soon? At least a update segment in an upcoming video?
There was a JCW package that could be dealer installed to any S for $5K. That wouldn't show on a report. The car would still be an S.
That was pre 2009, since then MINI made them an actual model, so I think it may show up in the VIN.
That is a Scan Gauge. It's an old school OBDII code reader and aux gauge device. I've had mine for at least 15 years. You change the screens using small buttons on the back.
I would definitely prefer a standard S to a JCW. The Mini S is a blast to drive, but it is a pretty stiff ride and the JCW is even more so. Great for an autocross on a smooth parking lot, lousy for Midwest potholes and frost heaves. I would much rather get a nice S and spend the price difference on a tune to get JCW power without the stiffer suspension.
You could buy an S with JCW trim. It's the "Works GP" version that has special trim, spoiler, wheels, etc that was exclusive for the car itself. Mini, especially here in the UK, have an options list that takes days to read and I've known many Cooper S to have JCW wheels and badges. It's probably for emissions or fuel differences, but the US spec ones seem to be a little less horsepower.
It’s probably worth $4,000 when sold. I’m glad you’ll be able to make money on it despite being taken on the deal.
J.R. in my opinion I'm saying you have $6500.00 just in parts. Maybe more if you don't just sell the parts cheap just to get rid of them. Just looking during the walk around the interior door panels seats and dash is about 2500.00 maybe more for someone who has one that has been ragged out. Is the transmission housing been cracked or anything because the engine you said was worth about $4000.00 so I'm sure the transmission is worth a couple grand just because of what it is. Find someone wanting to change from an automatic to a manual and they are going to need the cluth pedal and all the mounting hardware for it so there is about $3000.00 just for that. Plus the color of the interior I'm sure someone would love to change theirs since that one is in such great shape so I think that is a very very good investment because if you do tear it down to where all the parts thats good you can make damn good money and when I say all good parts I mean even all the nuts and bolts. Someone out there is needing all those part for a project and your parts would be a gold mine for them. They could get a deal on the parts and you could sell them to what sounds cheap but it would fill your wallet up quite nicely plus you and them all are happy. I've done 3 BMW'S and made ridiculous money form them when I paid only a fraction of what I sold all the good parts for. Good luck buddy keep up the good work. (I'm jealous as hell you found that I'm not a mini person just never have had one or really drove one).
Ready for the repair videos for all these cars you are buying! Get after it sir.
As far the as the door sills. If it was port installed body kit, they would get it wrong.
Lots of little things about these cars.
If it was dealer installed, they could get it wrong.
With the tuning kit if you add it, itll give you 200 plus horsepower.
That definitely looks like an S with the JCW appearance pack option at best. The most obvious thing from the outside that wouldn't likely get changed is the missing 4pot JCW-badged calipers.
It’s an r56 with an n18 engine. The n14 was 2011 and below. The actual JCW had the n14 up to 2012. How are the wheels. If they are decent what would you want for them?
The jcw comes with 4 piston calipers on the front
And the r56 all had timing issues the regular s and the jcw both had this issue! The headlights are wrong too there aftermarket! The steering wheel should have a jcw badge on the bottom center spoke of the wheel !
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Seriously, looking forward to the disassembly and hope you make your money back on this. ~ Chuck
FYI the subs are under the seats.
Not on the R56. Just the F56. I never had subs under the seats on every R55 and R56 I had with HK.
Oh dang I saw that thing, was considering buying it. Thanks for taking the plunge for me! :P
Tavarish called, he said a car is never too wrecked!
My wife’s 2019 Countryman S came with a JCW steering wheel from the factory
It being a 2012 means it has the newer and better N18 engine that didn’t have all the issues the N14 engine from 2007-2011 did. N14s liked to kill timing chains, burn oil, and blow head gaskets. N18s will burn oil if you run the thinner 0w30 stuff in them. If you run 5w30, they don’t seem to.
JCW gets different brakes, brake disks, shifter/steering wheel/brake handle gaiter are contract stitching, exhaust and outlets are different. I think in the '12's you could get a leather dash. Front splitter might be different as well...can't remember. Gauge faces are dark gray if I recall.
You still did ok it seems!
JR: 'How does it not have a heated steering wheel?"
Me in my gen 2 Integra...
Cold weather pack BMWs always get the heated wheel 😛
This video title is impressively accurate. Ouch.
huge red flag with the carfax would be the best time to walk
They sold a JCW appearance package. I had a 2012 base with that package. It gives you those competition wheels, the lower valances and side skirts, the JCW door scuffs, and a few other appearance goodies. It's one of my favorite cars I've owned. Very fun car even if mine wasn't turbocharged. I'd own another one in a heartbeat
You should look for one with a blown engine and do an engine swap… OR.. 4x4 Mini! Lmao 🤣
You can't beat that price!
I would think that parted out that car would net you a few thousand in profit. The Harmon Kardon stereo might be worth at least a grand to some other mini owner!
For $1200, you still got a deal. powertrain, seats, stereo, a wheel or two, and the computer.
You weren’t necessarily scammed. The previous owner didn’t know better.
It’s a Cooper S with the JCW Appearance package which was an option for that generation.
Add the JCW tuning kit to it which I had, add the JCW brakes to it and you’ll effectively have a JCW.
Lots of JCW appearance package and a la carte options on that one. It was probably a $30,000 car when it was new.
Those are aftermarket headlights. On that chassis the JCW would not show up on a carfax. It was just an option package.
I've been wanting a Cooper S or JCW just to drive around and run errands in. Way cheaper than a Slingshot LOL.
PLEASE do something about the echo in your shop. Sound absorbing panels are available.
Some JCW kits were installed by the dealer and will show as an "S" on the VIN. Factory JCW trim models will show JCW on the VIN.
I picked up a great example a few months back for just £1300 in UK. Prices in the states seem crazy
According to the pictures online the jcw don't say mini Cooper s on the back hatch. They just have a special badge
Take the Harmon Kardon system out and build it into a stand alone box
The title screen card saying should have been “mini John cooper does not works” lol
Next time you see a stop sign; Stop! You could have easily checked that VIN yourself before. I smell UA-cam setup.
It was 0* and I wanted to leave lol
A little Painless Dent Removal is all that baby needs! Aren't the subs under the seats like in other BMW's?
Have a good one!
-Jon
So, what you have there is an R56 Cooper S It has a JCW shifter and side sills. And the rear bumper looked to be JCW but the front one didn’t. I don’t know what year it is….that’s important becasue the engines got tons of little fixes in this generation. The early ones seem to have a lot of problems, but over the life of that generation they put in fixes and refinements to make them better. I think the later cars got the N14 engine. The subs are then back seat speakers I think.
I believe you could get the JCW trim package with out getting the performance parts of the JCW.
I’ve had an ‘05 S R53 since new. Zero issues with it. I prefer the SC engine, can make well over 200hp with bolt on goods. When working under the hood, it’s tight, and has to be put in “service mode” (entire front bumper and grill off) Takes about 15 min if you’ve done it before. I think that’s just an S model. It’s like people putting SS badges on a standard Camaro
There is two models in the R56 lineup which include John Cooper Works. One is the full 'Factory' JCW and the other is a Cooper S John Cooper Works. The Cooper S JCW is a standard cooper s which has had a factory JCW tuning kit put onto it. You can tell if it is this by opening the bonnet there should be a plaque with an identification number.. The kit included a new airbox, bigger manifold, exhaust and a ecu tune taking the power to 200ps instead of 211 on the factory jcw
These headlights are after market. this gen mini came with three options headlights halogen, xenon and bi xenon. They are optional on all mini's not trim based.
Hi JR, JCW body kit was a factory option in the UK, my daughter has an S with the kit fitted from factory 👍
I had a 2004 Mini Cooper s that was modded. it was fun to drive, and easy to park.
This will be a fun build and drive. Thank you.
Hmm with the weird damage pattern on the car in addition to the less than honest seller I am thinking maybe insurance fraud?
You can order JCW parts from the factory on your new MINI, doesn't make it a JCW MINI unless it has the engine/computer/exhaust mods.
My mini jcw has just a jcw badge on the rear hatch and the lower front grill on the driver side had a jcw badge and the factory recaro seats
The air bag light is on because of the common occupancy sensor system failure. There is a TSB SIM011116
Fill parting out the Ford Focus be next ????
If all body panels are dented except the roof, would that make it a Cole Trickle Works edition? XD