Well, try to think about her like Miki, where she knows that the main reason she’s like that is because of a mental illness that she needs help for... :)
@@WH173F4C3 Yeah, I have feeling that she's actually a good mom and maybe has some kind of guilt (or worry? Idk. Something like that) deep inside her heart and doesn't want Miki sees through it so she's strict towards Miki. ... Well, it's just my thought 😂
Eh it gives mixed feelings. Mental illness doesnt excuse abuse. Miki chose a forgiveness route and thats fine if it was best for her but since this is a real and sensitive its important to remember that mental illness doesnt make abuse okay and no one is obligated to forgive someone because theyre mentally ill. I have a hard time viewing her well due to her being abusive throughout the game and not seeing her get help or be better though. But basically yeah shes terrible from what we see and her mental illness doesnt change that.
Whoa. Mikis' mom is a nurse? With that hysterical behaviour, how she's dealing with a patients? Just screaming to them to die? The heck?! Still questioning this 🙃
@@LittleKittySilver but not like that.. depression, anxiety etc. But not that kind of lack of empathy for people struggling. That's absurd to even think about.
@@himekou_ if you have no empathy for people don't work with them, she's clearly always hated her sister for seemingly no reason. I don't think lack of morality and sympathy like telling your sister and daughter to just go die comes with any part of the job of being a nurse. PTSD, anxiety, insomnia, depression and stuff in the anxiety related sphere, definitely does on the other hand.
Check out the game Re:Kinder, the concept of mental illnesses for the Japanese people in that stuff kinda supports the reality of how professionals and the common people dismiss those who has these issues. I think having Miki's mother as a nurse who don't treat people with mental illnesses right is not as accurate na. TLDR: Probably games like Re;Kinder and Paranoiac, were written in that time when mental illnesses is not so well known and handled well by the Japanese medical professionals and the common people.
Most of people who have abusive behaviours toward people seems to show a completely different attitude towards others in order to make good impression or to avoid been judge This is a common treat of narcissistic people
I like the extra bit of detail at the end in the bad end. In the old version, after the news article shows up, it just ends, without ever showing how her death affected mr miura (or the people around her)
Awww... Miki's eyes at the ending of the good end have more emotions, life and light in them now... I love that little detail so much... I'm gonna tear up :')
man. the mom pisses me off. the fear of being vulnerable made her illness develop even further and when she tried to finally reach out she was rejected. That should've really messed her up but luckily mc overcame it.
I say Miki should cut ties with her mom for not helping her, but if she wants to forgive and help her mom then I won't stop as long the mom doesn't take advantage of her.
Zion The thing with hysteria is that they would do anything to get attention and sympathy. To the point that they don’t care about how much they hurt other people. So yeah, her cutting ties with her mom is a good thing.
@@narararamammily5386 but since it's a mental illness isn't what Yuki did the right thing to do and it's to help people who are in need instead of just throwing them away knowing that they will get worse and worse
@@Faramik2000 faramik2000 true it is good to help out others in need. but it comes to a point where trying to be a part of someone's life is significantly impacting yours in a negative light. Ultimately you have to put your own health first when it comes to some things, especially when you have issues like the mc. Being around her mother is just going to cause her more problems down the line and it would just be a toxic relationship. maybe if the mc didn't have her mental illness i would say try to mend the bridge but at this point i say cut her losses and try to help herself on this specific topic.
Since we're at the last part, I have to say I prefer the new monster over the old one since it fits in thematically with the game and the protagonist's mental condition better
I really like that the ghost here is not only Miki's dead aunt, but a physical manifestation of her depression and guilt. In the bad ending the same happens to Shinji, as the ghost of Miki starts to follow him, because he feels guilty and blames himself for her death.
Holy the conversation with the Ghost at the good ending actually made me tear up. Some of the stuff said there hits close to home. Great game/story for sure
This game was honestly ahead of its time. It's also the only one I've seen (other than The Crooked Man) handle the topic of mental health like this. Sometimes your own guilt and regret really does feel like a monster chasing you down day in and day out. It's always an uphill battle but it's also a battle you have to keep fighting every day just to surivive. Best wishes to anyone who is going through this battle. You aren't alone and it's never too late to get help. Keep fighting no matter what so you can look back at all that you rose above.
To me, when the aunt wrote about Miki saying she wanted her dead. I think her mother told that to the aunt to rub salt in her wounds. Edit: Thank you to the replies below showing more about how Aunt could have suffered in this game. Their very good and need likes themselves.
@@TakeFlightRaven TBH I don't know if she was Shizophrenic. Can you... just randomly get it? There were no indications she was mentally ill before her childs death (Aside from depression.) So I'm not sure if it was that? I believe that yes, she was having voices in her head, but that it was more likely a voice of Depression. Dealing with Chronic depression myself, I often misread things people say or do, or just mentally think to myself that people are thinking these things. While she says "Miki told me to die too" I don't think she outright meant... That Miki VERBALLY said it. Miki avoided her, and hid from her, thus giving her indications that to Miki, it'd be better off if she was dead. I could be wrong.
@@TakeFlightRaven thank you for the very well written response! I think you're right that it's open to interpretation, however. I think the main thing here is: Depression. Especially after the extreme loss of a loved one. I feel like in the game, the aunt seemed to suffer verbal abuse from her sister growing up, probably resulting in some harsh mental health issues into her adulthood, which was worsened by the stillborn child. Then the main character suffers the aunt's suicide. Both feel guilty for the death they are affected by I believe. At least in the good end, they all find some peace, and try to cope with their illnesses (Obviously aside from the aunt who is dead, but there's a possibility there is an aspect to it that kind of puts her to rest.)
@@sabrinareese3880 her character sheet said the doc suspected it, but there was no proper diagnosis, personally, I am leaning towards more supernatural shennaniganery. Also, Velvet Roseartist#2, I agree with you. That theory is possible
_It's good to remember loving someone_ The "horror" is less in terms of jump scares & gore... and I miss that a little bit. But the story of Paranoiac I always liked - the additions to the remake really flesh out the characters & the plot & give it much more impact. I liked Miura's guilt over not helping Miki enough resulted in him seeing the "monster" & other bits of Miki's memories & the resolution of her relationship with her mother made this remake really solid. Thank you for playing it & I agree about Kairo being really a creepy movie.
@Mister Boomer It's a 2001Japanese horror movie by Kiyoshi Kurosawa adapted from his novel about ghosts coming into reality via the internet. From IMDB: "After one of their friends commits suicide, strange things begin happening to a group of young Tokyo residents. One of them sees visions of his dead friend in the shadows on the wall, while another's computer keeps showing strange, ghostly images. Is their friend trying to contact them from beyond the grave, or is there something much more sinister going on?" _spooky_
Yeah, I agree on the final words. The Crooked man is really the best of them all currently(getting past the bad endings was a bit of a pain though due to the fights). I was suprised when I learned that Paranoiac had a remake of all of the games! It's good that it got a revamp and attention even if it's a small little game.
Flashing lights timestamps (and imagery): 0:00-0:08 (title screen, Manly says "Hey everyone, this is ManlyBadassHero and welcome back to Paranoiac. Previously we got a good night sleep. By that I mean no", then clicks on "Load" from the options of "Load" "Start" and "Close") 6:28-6:29 (feet hanging/dangling) 15:12-15:13 (feet hanging/dangling), 15:38-15:39 (feet, body facing down), 15:48-15:49 (computer screen from earlier), 15:56-15:57 (hand reaching towards rope), 16:09-16:20 (body crawling towards Miki, words "THIS IS A FANTASY" and "THIS ISN'T REAL" repeatedly flashing, hands reaching towards you/the screen) 23:13-23:14 (feet hanging/dangling), 23:14-23:15 (feet, body faced down), 33:54-33:55 (Title screen, Manly clicks on "Character" from the options of "Load" "Start" "Close" "Character" and "Novel"), 35:29-35:30 (Title screen, Manly clicks "Novel" from the options of "Load" "Start" "Close" "Character" and "Novel")
I didn't watch the original video game so I don't know about the visual improvements and flaws, but I really liked the plot anyway. Thank you for playing it Manly.
The ending is making me cry my eyes out. It’s more sad and depressing than it is scary. My own aunt has depression and it made me think of her. I hope she’s doing well.
Please tell me Shinji and Miki ended up together, on the other note aweee I'm glad she's going to get the help she needed, depression, anxiety really do a number on people who has it
This was certainly a good remake of the game, even a better remake than Mermaid Swamp's. I don't really remember the original have a lot of gore myself, but I do like how the story was re-presented here, both in the art, layout, and some of the additional scenes they added to help build the characters and their tragedies. I thought the added scene with Miura in the Bad End was a nice touch, it makes the ending a little creepier with the whole situation being a cycle. Kinda want to see a "What If?" spin-off game starring Miura that follows the bad end with Miki dying, where he goes through a similar situation and the player has to help him get pass it. I know Paranoiac isn't part of the Strange Men series but I personally feel like it is, just because it shares a lot of traits as those games in the series. It kind of like, a spiritual prequel (for lack of a better term) to that series.
Damn, Miki is very patient with her mom. I understand parents that have their own issues can be verbally abusive while being salvagable in the inside but damn... is that laugh on the phone is real? Or is it the ghost's doing? Because she sounds so supportive seconds ago. Her auntie hearing people saying she was a killer was definitely not real. Mr Miura had been her neighbour and he said that while she was known in the neighbourhood to act strange, they didn't hate her, so they couldn't be actually accusing her. And of course, tv news couldn't be making such fuss about someone's stillborn. So as terrible as Miki's mom be and her hysteria, I couldn't believe her actually telling her daughter to off herself. It might be the ghost's trick just like what it did to her aunt. Also, as much as the characters speculate the ghost to be part of mental illness, I'd like to think like Crooked Man series that both mental illness and the ghost are real. More precisely a demon that hunts people weak with guilt. I don't think it's all of her aunt doing, so actual demon must be affecting her and her ghost, because... Miki said she was found suicide not long after she promised that doll, I can't believe she would detoriate that fast on her own, especially since she displayed the doll well in that room, if she hated Miki after making the doll, she wouldn't put it in display so nicely. I wouldn't believe that she forgot that she loved her niece on her own. It could be my own bias though. In any case I wouldn't have been that patient. Miki is amazing in that regard.
Let's Read Textbook just because her mom seemed supportive for a pure second, that wasn’t a excuse for all the things she told miki. It was abuse, and laughing through the phone was one of the things miki’s mom did.
other people have said this as well but i think the old monster is scarier the new one seems to be meant to look like her aunt hanging so maybe they could've combined the designs? like give the zombie-like thing the hair of the ghost and have it float the same way?
Majima I would like to have a combination between the two. I like the ghost like figure with the crooked design, but it just doesn’t seem human. Having it look more like a dead body (not exactly zombie) would make sense, but would kinda ruin the plot of Miki finding out that it was her aunt
@@lyraharpstrings8025 The story is more about her coming to terms with her aunt's death, though. In the original, it's more clear that the monster is a representation of her dead aunt rather than schizophrenia.
The story hits me home. I can really relate to Miki, since I have the exact same guilt she has here. As a note, this is the first time I see this game, pretty cohesive delivery.
To continue my impression of this game that I contributed on the last video, I can say more definitively that the subtle alterations and expanded scenes seemed to effectively embellish the simple plot and characterizations of the original work. As another specific example, I recall there being some vagueness in the original surrounding Miki’s inability to remember her aunt and the experiences they shared, and though it may have been possible to speculate as to the rationale for this haze, which was solely pertinent at the game's culmination, no explicit or additional information was provided as to its source. This momentous instance of clarity after encountering the embroidered bear was better predicated in the remake, as Miki is shown to be struggling with these lapses in her memory and the general obfuscation of all remembrances of her aunt dissociated from her suicide. Miki, in a state of contemplation, seems to imply that the traumatic sight of her aunt and the consequential guilt were so deeply rutted into her fragile mind that forgetfulness became somewhat of a protective mechanism to dilute the vividness of that final, unbearable image of her beloved aunt. The lucidity she regains at the end subjects her to the overwhelming grief and regret she attempted to suppress, yet, the positive memories also return, and the honest admission of her self-imposed blame represents the first step towards properly addressing her mental tribulations. Overall, these foundational scenes introduced intermittently throughout the game reveal further insight into Miki’s personality and difficulties as well as restructure the narrative framework to provide more logical set-ups, motivations, purpose, and significance for the events of later scenes. From a storytelling perspective, the writing quality has certainly improved and the tone is more consistent. I’m definitely glad to see Uri returning to improve their earlier pieces, which grants me the opportunity to experience and discuss them anew.
yuriko: **having a miscarriage, gets divorced, become depressed** miki's mom: STOP IT. GET SOME HELP. YOU'RE CRAZY. GET AWAY FROM ME. ~ miki: "MOM THERE'S A MONSTER CHASING ME IN MY HOUSE!" miki's mom: STOP IT. GET SOME HELP. YOU'RE CRAZY. GET AWAY FROM ME. ~ miki's mom: **having a hysterical fit** miki: stop it. get some help. I love you mom.
The monster being a hallucination is actually very possible. Common side effects for antidepressents include things like anxiety, insomnia, as well as blurred vision. Considering the monster appeared more frequently as time went on, it could have started as something being affected by the blurry vision side effect, along with the human minds tendency to look for familiar shapes in unfamiliar things, such as a blurry smudge looking like a person. Then adding the fact she stopped sleeping as much would add the natural hallucinations caused by sleep deprivation for more than 72 hours, or 3 days. All that, on top of Miki's depression and growingly panicked mindset, plus, as Miura put it, the "creepy atmosphere" of the house, its highly possible for this to be passed off as hallucinations
This was a really good remake. It's been so long since I last experienced the original. Miki had a rough and terrible mother. But at least she cared enough to the point where she worked on making things better with her. I really liked these old spooky games.
As someone with depression and a family history of mental illness, this hit way too close to home. Nothing as severe as this, but god is it relatable. I think the ending with the whole ending with that remembering love thing is very powerful, we often dehumanize people when they hurt us, and it leads us to distance ourselves from them which only makes thing worse. Despite everything, my family is doing alright, and I hope to continue with that. Maybe it's because I'm exhausted and its midnight but god this slapped me right in the heart.
Wow turns out really good. I like the extra scenes added to it. The monster is more like a ghost instead of a zombie which was more scarier in the first game. Nice to see the documentaries of each character and they got good avatars as well. I really enjoy this and all of uri's rpg maker horror games. Thanks for posting this Manly! Keep doing what you do :)
I remember I loved Paranoiac when I first watched your playthrough and I can distinctively remember how after the bad ending we didnt have any other information for example about how Shinji felt about her suicide (adding the fact I will ship them until I die) and well, Im actually sharing yur opinion about the new face of the monster which I believe it had been because: a) the change of the art of the models and everything else and b) well, with the kind of story Paranoiac is presenting I believe its more fitting the new monster over the old one, since the original it was quite good at bringing scares but it doesnt have the feel of the present one. In other words, the static form makes it more believable to be a ghost that could be created by the traumatic memories of Miki than a half corpse zombie that it was a bit too much. So I gladly welcome all those changes but the original Paranoiac will forever have a place in my memories.
My heart got broken for poor Aunt and Miki.. but I'm glad they in animals toys room to make up.. it gave me cried I'm happy for Miki got little more better. I still feel sick by Miki's mom really cruel toxic to them..just..ugh.. Thank you for play this game it is really good. I wonder you plan to play this Chinese game called 'Nether Gallery'?
I will admit, this game hits me way harder than most. My mental problems make it close to impossible to keep a job, and I feel like such a burden on my family for it. I keep trying, but always lose my job.
I was not expecting this horror rpg to hit so close to home about the pain of coping with hereditary mental illness(es) and dysfunctional family and it hit wayyyyyyy too close to home Q_Q
This is actually a very well written and touching story which really gets a good point on how a psychosis, a depression and some of the other mad stuff feels like. As someone being in therapy for years, this actually triggered me a lot but in good ways too. Im very impressed, the creator must have made some very close experiences and is very gentle with the hard thoughts this topic offers. Thanks.
Guilt and self loathing are a terrible pain for anyone to bare and no matter how strong you are you can’t face theses things alone A message reminding you to take care of your mental heath
The old version was very scary to me (since I'm just a person with poor heart) so everytime when the monster with zombie-face-like appeared on the screen, I just covered my eyes. At first when I saw the teaser of the new version, I like its design in the old version more, but after done watching this remake version, turns out that I also like the design of this version too. And what make me like about this version is, they made it less frightening (since the monster in the old version annoys me so much), they describe more carefuly about each character's feeling (especially about Miki's feeling), and the part in the bad ending, they showed us more about how Mr. Miura feels after seeing Miki's dead (and then Miki's soul followed him?). This remake made me feel so emotional. I like it~!! But in my opinion, I like how Miki looks in the old version more (for Mr. Miura I will choose the remake version). And I love the way she smile in the old version.
Ah, I really liked the ending. The extra scene at the end in the Bad Ending was a nice touch. I can't remember if the old one had the short character descriptions including what happened to them 2 years after the events, in the Good Ending, but I liked the fact the game told us, non the less. Overall, I think I like this version more.
I find it interresting story telling that in the bad ending she takes a whole bunch of her medicine and dies While in the good ending she stops taking it and it's the last time she sees the monster Brings things open to interpretation
Thank you for this quick journey Manly. I miss Uri's stories, especially the Strange Men series. Love love love watching you play these games. Your videos make my day!
I like that this version is a lot more thorough with the physiology and characters. They always had mostly everything accounted for, but they gave further reasoning to things, i.e further explanation as to why the mom is such a titanic bitch, without justifying her actions
OK MANLY GO OFF WITH THAT BEARD, YOU LOOKIN FLY AS FUCK MAN. That aside, Miki's good ending was very sweet. The suggestion between Shinji and she was a soft touch! I remember you playing the original waaaaaaay back when. Improvements were really nice! Especially Shinji's depression after Miki's death in the first ending.
Overall, this remake definitely improved on the story elements of Paranoiac and I'm glad for that, since the original was very lacking in terms of story. However I'm kind of disappointed that they took the horror down several notches. In my opinion, Paranoiac was probably Uri's scariest game. The jumpscares, the realistic flashing imagery, the sounds... They were all fairly jarring for an RPG Maker game. With this remake they pretty much scrapped the monster and the flashing imagery seems more... Tame? Scripted? It just doesn't deliver the same effect. Overall I think it was a good remake, though. The adding of more story and character elements were definitely welcome.
Also also, Symptoms appear randomly. You may not have them at first, but you can have them suddenly. Just like you suddenly become allergic to something you've been around your whole life.
That was actually really sweet! With a bit of death and depression of course, I think I prefer these simi horror stories that yes has a monster ghost thing but also a good lesson or point to tell instead of just terror and no substance but yeah I liked the game simple and sweet.
The old monster mightve been scarier but tbh it didnt make sense to me. At least as a ghost it makes more sense to leave no trace, though it being slower than the old monster is amusing.
9:08 'After all... it is my house.' Oh...oh no. Nah, hold up..wait what...nahhh... Miki said that it's not her home, so it has to be..her.. The aunt...it's...wow.
Hello! for all my lovely people out there who have seizures, beware when the screen goes dark when you're hiding, there's a flash, and the bad end, (15:00-16:29) can be rough. Stay Safe!
All that being said about this game being the foundation for The Crooked Man, the game that arguably was Uri's claim to fame, it's a real shame that UA-cam deleted Manly's playthrough of The Crooked Man
i think if they add something to the climax when miki face to face with the ghost, like maybe the ghost slowly turning into saeki and then saeki says "thank you" then slowly fades away, would add more emotional drive to miki and to the player, rather than just miki suddenly fainted, what i kinda don't like is the "monster" design because it looks more like a ghost than a monster
I love Uri's work so much. You can tell she's knowledgeable about mental health, she really approaches it with sensitivity. I haven't played/seen the old version of this, but I really like this remake. The sideways talksprites are really unique and expressive, and I love all the subtle changes in them. The story touched me - the loop of guilt in the bad ending and the path to recovery in the good ending... (On that note, shkjshk I suspected the mum might be a nurse, but? A nurse with that kind of attitude to mental health, really?) Thanks for playing this, Manly! You're awesome as always.
the monster is both more fitting, but also significanlty less scary art wise. And the lower speed makes it less hecktic, but less frustrating. Aside of that, a lot of issues were fixed. Like the lenght of the well cave. Or the "why doesnt she just leave" question was adressed with the park scene. Which also helped with her feeling of helplessness from the police not taking her serious, and deepen the relationship she has with her neighbour. POverall, it's definitely a big improvement over the original. But I wished the monster was kept more gory, scary, then just a float-y shadow.
As someone with an abusuve mom with a personality disorder. The choice for her to take responsibility over her mother is a stupid choice and would ultimately destroy her. The healthiest choice is to cut ties. You cannot control someone so abusive and power hungry.
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... Her mom is so friggin' terrible, indeed.
And to think that these people exist irl is even worse
Well, try to think about her like Miki, where she knows that the main reason she’s like that is because of a mental illness that she needs help for... :)
@Mister Boomer Agree. 😂
@@WH173F4C3 Yeah, I have feeling that she's actually a good mom and maybe has some kind of guilt (or worry? Idk. Something like that) deep inside her heart and doesn't want Miki sees through it so she's strict towards Miki.
... Well, it's just my thought 😂
Eh it gives mixed feelings. Mental illness doesnt excuse abuse. Miki chose a forgiveness route and thats fine if it was best for her but since this is a real and sensitive its important to remember that mental illness doesnt make abuse okay and no one is obligated to forgive someone because theyre mentally ill. I have a hard time viewing her well due to her being abusive throughout the game and not seeing her get help or be better though. But basically yeah shes terrible from what we see and her mental illness doesnt change that.
Whoa. Mikis' mom is a nurse? With that hysterical behaviour, how she's dealing with a patients? Just screaming to them to die? The heck?!
Still questioning this 🙃
@@LittleKittySilver but not like that.. depression, anxiety etc. But not that kind of lack of empathy for people struggling. That's absurd to even think about.
@@himekou_ if you have no empathy for people don't work with them, she's clearly always hated her sister for seemingly no reason. I don't think lack of morality and sympathy like telling your sister and daughter to just go die comes with any part of the job of being a nurse. PTSD, anxiety, insomnia, depression and stuff in the anxiety related sphere, definitely does on the other hand.
Check out the game Re:Kinder, the concept of mental illnesses for the Japanese people in that stuff kinda supports the reality of how professionals and the common people dismiss those who has these issues.
I think having Miki's mother as a nurse who don't treat people with mental illnesses right is not as accurate na.
TLDR: Probably games like Re;Kinder and Paranoiac, were written in that time when mental illnesses is not so well known and handled well by the Japanese medical professionals and the common people.
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This game is set in older japan but still relatively modern
Most of people who have abusive behaviours toward people seems to show a completely different attitude towards others in order to make good impression or to avoid been judge This is a common treat of narcissistic people
I like the extra bit of detail at the end in the bad end. In the old version, after the news article shows up, it just ends, without ever showing how her death affected mr miura (or the people around her)
niiice
Imagine if we got to see her mom at the end too
100% sad storyline T. T
@@sketchrad1016 i wanted ghost miki to gut her mother
Awww... Miki's eyes at the ending of the good end have more emotions, life and light in them now... I love that little detail so much... I'm gonna tear up :')
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@@noel9817 Thanks for the like :))
Did Miki and Shinji gets married?
@@kuyasensei6455 Ah, I don't know about that, sorry;;
Ah sh- anyway, Thats a PLOT TWIST GOOD ENDING BOIS!
man. the mom pisses me off. the fear of being vulnerable made her illness develop even further and when she tried to finally reach out she was rejected. That should've really messed her up but luckily mc overcame it.
I say Miki should cut ties with her mom for not helping her, but if she wants to forgive and help her mom then I won't stop as long the mom doesn't take advantage of her.
Zion The thing with hysteria is that they would do anything to get attention and sympathy. To the point that they don’t care about how much they hurt other people. So yeah, her cutting ties with her mom is a good thing.
@@narararamammily5386 but since it's a mental illness isn't what Yuki did the right thing to do and it's to help people who are in need instead of just throwing them away knowing that they will get worse and worse
@@Faramik2000 faramik2000 true it is good to help out others in need. but it comes to a point where trying to be a part of someone's life is significantly impacting yours in a negative light. Ultimately you have to put your own health first when it comes to some things, especially when you have issues like the mc. Being around her mother is just going to cause her more problems down the line and it would just be a toxic relationship. maybe if the mc didn't have her mental illness i would say try to mend the bridge but at this point i say cut her losses and try to help herself on this specific topic.
What bothering me that even her mother doesn't show any concern about miki's death...
Since we're at the last part, I have to say I prefer the new monster over the old one since it fits in thematically with the game and the protagonist's mental condition better
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Yeah it is less scary
I really like that the ghost here is not only Miki's dead aunt, but a physical manifestation of her depression and guilt. In the bad ending the same happens to Shinji, as the ghost of Miki starts to follow him, because he feels guilty and blames himself for her death.
The guilt continues, see that red sprite in the bad ending. I'd say that's Miki following Shinji.
oh jeez
This game is the definition of "I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with *ME* !"
Holy the conversation with the Ghost at the good ending actually made me tear up. Some of the stuff said there hits close to home. Great game/story for sure
This game was honestly ahead of its time. It's also the only one I've seen (other than The Crooked Man) handle the topic of mental health like this. Sometimes your own guilt and regret really does feel like a monster chasing you down day in and day out. It's always an uphill battle but it's also a battle you have to keep fighting every day just to surivive. Best wishes to anyone who is going through this battle. You aren't alone and it's never too late to get help. Keep fighting no matter what so you can look back at all that you rose above.
To me, when the aunt wrote about Miki saying she wanted her dead. I think her mother told that to the aunt to rub salt in her wounds.
Edit: Thank you to the replies below showing more about how Aunt could have suffered in this game. Their very good and need likes themselves.
@@TakeFlightRaven TBH I don't know if she was Shizophrenic. Can you... just randomly get it? There were no indications she was mentally ill before her childs death (Aside from depression.) So I'm not sure if it was that? I believe that yes, she was having voices in her head, but that it was more likely a voice of Depression. Dealing with Chronic depression myself, I often misread things people say or do, or just mentally think to myself that people are thinking these things. While she says "Miki told me to die too" I don't think she outright meant... That Miki VERBALLY said it. Miki avoided her, and hid from her, thus giving her indications that to Miki, it'd be better off if she was dead. I could be wrong.
@@TakeFlightRaven I could be wrong, cause in the game the Doctor diagnoses Miki with it, so who knows. It's possibly the aunt was Schizophrenic
@@TakeFlightRaven thank you for the very well written response! I think you're right that it's open to interpretation, however. I think the main thing here is: Depression. Especially after the extreme loss of a loved one.
I feel like in the game, the aunt seemed to suffer verbal abuse from her sister growing up, probably resulting in some harsh mental health issues into her adulthood, which was worsened by the stillborn child. Then the main character suffers the aunt's suicide.
Both feel guilty for the death they are affected by I believe. At least in the good end, they all find some peace, and try to cope with their illnesses (Obviously aside from the aunt who is dead, but there's a possibility there is an aspect to it that kind of puts her to rest.)
@@sabrinareese3880 her character sheet said the doc suspected it, but there was no proper diagnosis, personally, I am leaning towards more supernatural shennaniganery. Also, Velvet Roseartist#2, I agree with you. That theory is possible
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_It's good to remember loving someone_
The "horror" is less in terms of jump scares & gore... and I miss that a little bit. But the story of Paranoiac I always liked - the additions to the remake really flesh out the characters & the plot & give it much more impact. I liked Miura's guilt over not helping Miki enough resulted in him seeing the "monster" & other bits of Miki's memories & the resolution of her relationship with her mother made this remake really solid. Thank you for playing it & I agree about Kairo being really a creepy movie.
@Mister Boomer It's a 2001Japanese horror movie by Kiyoshi Kurosawa adapted from his novel about ghosts coming into reality via the internet. From IMDB: "After one of their friends commits suicide, strange things begin happening to a group of young Tokyo residents. One of them sees visions of his dead friend in the shadows on the wall, while another's computer keeps showing strange, ghostly images. Is their friend trying to contact them from beyond the grave, or is there something much more sinister going on?" _spooky_
Yeah, I agree on the final words. The Crooked man is really the best of them all currently(getting past the bad endings was a bit of a pain though due to the fights). I was suprised when I learned that Paranoiac had a remake of all of the games! It's good that it got a revamp and attention even if it's a small little game.
Flashing lights timestamps (and imagery):
0:00-0:08 (title screen, Manly says "Hey everyone, this is ManlyBadassHero and welcome back to Paranoiac. Previously we got a good night sleep. By that I mean no", then clicks on "Load" from the options of "Load" "Start" and "Close")
6:28-6:29 (feet hanging/dangling)
15:12-15:13 (feet hanging/dangling),
15:38-15:39 (feet, body facing down),
15:48-15:49 (computer screen from earlier),
15:56-15:57 (hand reaching towards rope),
16:09-16:20 (body crawling towards Miki, words "THIS IS A FANTASY" and "THIS ISN'T REAL" repeatedly flashing, hands reaching towards you/the screen)
23:13-23:14 (feet hanging/dangling),
23:14-23:15 (feet, body faced down),
33:54-33:55 (Title screen, Manly clicks on "Character" from the options of "Load" "Start" "Close" "Character" and "Novel"),
35:29-35:30 (Title screen, Manly clicks "Novel" from the options of "Load" "Start" "Close" "Character" and "Novel")
Mvp person thank you so much!! :VVV
@@gebbygebbers no prob! :)
I think you missed one at 6:28-6:29 (feet in the air)
@@mioko5679 I only noted down the repeated/rapid flashing, but thank you! I'll edit the original!
@@mioko5679 I really should edit some from the older videos too since I didn't include the title screen which also has flashing
Now we have confirmation she's back with Mr Miura
I didn't watch the original video game so I don't know about the visual improvements and flaws, but I really liked the plot anyway. Thank you for playing it Manly.
The ending is making me cry my eyes out. It’s more sad and depressing than it is scary.
My own aunt has depression and it made me think of her. I hope she’s doing well.
Please tell me Shinji and Miki ended up together, on the other note aweee I'm glad she's going to get the help she needed, depression, anxiety really do a number on people who has it
Love your profile picture. Gray gang
@@ailurophile4341 thank you, I drew it myself
This was certainly a good remake of the game, even a better remake than Mermaid Swamp's. I don't really remember the original have a lot of gore myself, but I do like how the story was re-presented here, both in the art, layout, and some of the additional scenes they added to help build the characters and their tragedies. I thought the added scene with Miura in the Bad End was a nice touch, it makes the ending a little creepier with the whole situation being a cycle. Kinda want to see a "What If?" spin-off game starring Miura that follows the bad end with Miki dying, where he goes through a similar situation and the player has to help him get pass it.
I know Paranoiac isn't part of the Strange Men series but I personally feel like it is, just because it shares a lot of traits as those games in the series. It kind of like, a spiritual prequel (for lack of a better term) to that series.
Damn, Miki is very patient with her mom. I understand parents that have their own issues can be verbally abusive while being salvagable in the inside but damn... is that laugh on the phone is real? Or is it the ghost's doing? Because she sounds so supportive seconds ago.
Her auntie hearing people saying she was a killer was definitely not real. Mr Miura had been her neighbour and he said that while she was known in the neighbourhood to act strange, they didn't hate her, so they couldn't be actually accusing her. And of course, tv news couldn't be making such fuss about someone's stillborn.
So as terrible as Miki's mom be and her hysteria, I couldn't believe her actually telling her daughter to off herself. It might be the ghost's trick just like what it did to her aunt.
Also, as much as the characters speculate the ghost to be part of mental illness, I'd like to think like Crooked Man series that both mental illness and the ghost are real. More precisely a demon that hunts people weak with guilt. I don't think it's all of her aunt doing, so actual demon must be affecting her and her ghost, because... Miki said she was found suicide not long after she promised that doll, I can't believe she would detoriate that fast on her own, especially since she displayed the doll well in that room, if she hated Miki after making the doll, she wouldn't put it in display so nicely. I wouldn't believe that she forgot that she loved her niece on her own.
It could be my own bias though. In any case I wouldn't have been that patient. Miki is amazing in that regard.
Let's Read Textbook just because her mom seemed supportive for a pure second, that wasn’t a excuse for all the things she told miki. It was abuse, and laughing through the phone was one of the things miki’s mom did.
@@noyusa7894 so it's canonically not the ghost's doing?
That breaks my heart :c
@@letsreadtextbook1687 Nothing was officially confirmed or denied. It's just consistent with the mom's behavior that she would be so cruel.
Man, the writer with depression that makes it so they can't write is personal
Well, that guy is gonna have a hard time hiding from the "monster" since he lives in a small apartment lol
other people have said this as well but i think the old monster is scarier
the new one seems to be meant to look like her aunt hanging so maybe they could've combined the designs? like give the zombie-like thing the hair of the ghost and have it float the same way?
Majima If MC really does have schizophrenia its a more accurate representation of the shadows shizophrenic people see.
Would do if the ghost had that corpse appearance just from close.
Majima
I would like to have a combination between the two.
I like the ghost like figure with the crooked design, but it just doesn’t seem human.
Having it look more like a dead body (not exactly zombie) would make sense, but would kinda ruin the plot of Miki finding out that it was her aunt
@@lyraharpstrings8025 The story is more about her coming to terms with her aunt's death, though. In the original, it's more clear that the monster is a representation of her dead aunt rather than schizophrenia.
@@aliceiscalling in the original, the creature is her representation of her own guilt towards her aunt's death
The story hits me home. I can really relate to Miki, since I have the exact same guilt she has here.
As a note, this is the first time I see this game, pretty cohesive delivery.
The exact same guilt? Did something like this happen to you?
Sounds terrible.... 😔
To continue my impression of this game that I contributed on the last video, I can say more definitively that the subtle alterations and expanded scenes seemed to effectively embellish the simple plot and characterizations of the original work. As another specific example, I recall there being some vagueness in the original surrounding Miki’s inability to remember her aunt and the experiences they shared, and though it may have been possible to speculate as to the rationale for this haze, which was solely pertinent at the game's culmination, no explicit or additional information was provided as to its source. This momentous instance of clarity after encountering the embroidered bear was better predicated in the remake, as Miki is shown to be struggling with these lapses in her memory and the general obfuscation of all remembrances of her aunt dissociated from her suicide. Miki, in a state of contemplation, seems to imply that the traumatic sight of her aunt and the consequential guilt were so deeply rutted into her fragile mind that forgetfulness became somewhat of a protective mechanism to dilute the vividness of that final, unbearable image of her beloved aunt. The lucidity she regains at the end subjects her to the overwhelming grief and regret she attempted to suppress, yet, the positive memories also return, and the honest admission of her self-imposed blame represents the first step towards properly addressing her mental tribulations.
Overall, these foundational scenes introduced intermittently throughout the game reveal further insight into Miki’s personality and difficulties as well as restructure the narrative framework to provide more logical set-ups, motivations, purpose, and significance for the events of later scenes. From a storytelling perspective, the writing quality has certainly improved and the tone is more consistent. I’m definitely glad to see Uri returning to improve their earlier pieces, which grants me the opportunity to experience and discuss them anew.
Manly?? More like Dadly, when’s the parent-teacher conference, amiright?
yuriko: **having a miscarriage, gets divorced, become depressed**
miki's mom: STOP IT. GET SOME HELP. YOU'RE CRAZY. GET AWAY FROM ME.
~
miki: "MOM THERE'S A MONSTER CHASING ME IN MY HOUSE!"
miki's mom: STOP IT. GET SOME HELP. YOU'RE CRAZY. GET AWAY FROM ME.
~
miki's mom: **having a hysterical fit**
miki: stop it. get some help. I love you mom.
At that point miki didn’t know that was her aunt
The monster being a hallucination is actually very possible. Common side effects for antidepressents include things like anxiety, insomnia, as well as blurred vision. Considering the monster appeared more frequently as time went on, it could have started as something being affected by the blurry vision side effect, along with the human minds tendency to look for familiar shapes in unfamiliar things, such as a blurry smudge looking like a person. Then adding the fact she stopped sleeping as much would add the natural hallucinations caused by sleep deprivation for more than 72 hours, or 3 days. All that, on top of Miki's depression and growingly panicked mindset, plus, as Miura put it, the "creepy atmosphere" of the house, its highly possible for this to be passed off as hallucinations
This was a really good remake. It's been so long since I last experienced the original. Miki had a rough and terrible mother. But at least she cared enough to the point where she worked on making things better with her. I really liked these old spooky games.
As someone with depression and a family history of mental illness, this hit way too close to home. Nothing as severe as this, but god is it relatable. I think the ending with the whole ending with that remembering love thing is very powerful, we often dehumanize people when they hurt us, and it leads us to distance ourselves from them which only makes thing worse. Despite everything, my family is doing alright, and I hope to continue with that. Maybe it's because I'm exhausted and its midnight but god this slapped me right in the heart.
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Wow turns out really good. I like the extra scenes added to it. The monster is more like a ghost instead of a zombie which was more scarier in the first game. Nice to see the documentaries of each character and they got good avatars as well. I really enjoy this and all of uri's rpg maker horror games. Thanks for posting this Manly! Keep doing what you do :)
I always wanted Paranoiac to become part of the Strange Men Universe cause it’d fit right in but on its own it is still a fun horror game :D
I'm fairly confident the aunt isn't a man... but it's 2019, who am I to judge
@@helloturkey1143 No, The Strange Man series is a series of games by Uri. The Crooked man, The Boogie man, The Sandman and The hanged man
The depression man
Watched really late because of school but I absolutely love how Miki followed her Aunt's hair.
I’m glad everything turning out well for Miki. That was hard to watch. 💛💔😭💐
You know... They should've just called for the Paranormal Cop. He'd go 'blat blat'.
I remember I loved Paranoiac when I first watched your playthrough and I can distinctively remember how after the bad ending we didnt have any other information for example about how Shinji felt about her suicide (adding the fact I will ship them until I die) and well, Im actually sharing yur opinion about the new face of the monster which I believe it had been because: a) the change of the art of the models and everything else and b) well, with the kind of story Paranoiac is presenting I believe its more fitting the new monster over the old one, since the original it was quite good at bringing scares but it doesnt have the feel of the present one. In other words, the static form makes it more believable to be a ghost that could be created by the traumatic memories of Miki than a half corpse zombie that it was a bit too much. So I gladly welcome all those changes but the original Paranoiac will forever have a place in my memories.
Bun bun! Miki looks so much more lively at the end of the good ending!
My heart got broken for poor Aunt and Miki.. but I'm glad they in animals toys room to make up.. it gave me cried I'm happy for Miki got little more better. I still feel sick by Miki's mom really cruel toxic to them..just..ugh.. Thank you for play this game it is really good. I wonder you plan to play this Chinese game called 'Nether Gallery'?
I will admit, this game hits me way harder than most.
My mental problems make it close to impossible to keep a job, and I feel like such a burden on my family for it. I keep trying, but always lose my job.
Having Miura see the ghost in the Bad Ending due to his guilt over Miki dying was a nice touch.
What a neighbour
Actually glad you uploaded right away! The previous one left a cliffhanger -- But all in all, I love the story 😍
Felt a bit emotional at this ending; that's a good thing. Makes you think about those around you suffering from these ills.
And now I have seen the face behind the voice. Must say, handsome face matches the sultry voice.
Does that mean in the bad end miura gets haunted by miki :c
Seems like it
Not "haunted" Followed
Sorta yeah
I’m glad they all got help in the end
I was not expecting this horror rpg to hit so close to home about the pain of coping with hereditary mental illness(es) and dysfunctional family and it hit wayyyyyyy too close to home Q_Q
This is actually a very well written and touching story which really gets a good point on how a psychosis, a depression and some of the other mad stuff feels like. As someone being in therapy for years, this actually triggered me a lot but in good ways too.
Im very impressed, the creator must have made some very close experiences and is very gentle with the hard thoughts this topic offers.
Thanks.
Guilt and self loathing are a terrible pain for anyone to bare and no matter how strong you are you can’t face theses things alone
A message reminding you to take care of your mental heath
Y'know what? I like Manly's beard. It's different from his usual appearance, but doesn't look bad at all.
The old version was very scary to me (since I'm just a person with poor heart) so everytime when the monster with zombie-face-like appeared on the screen, I just covered my eyes. At first when I saw the teaser of the new version, I like its design in the old version more, but after done watching this remake version, turns out that I also like the design of this version too. And what make me like about this version is, they made it less frightening (since the monster in the old version annoys me so much), they describe more carefuly about each character's feeling (especially about Miki's feeling), and the part in the bad ending, they showed us more about how Mr. Miura feels after seeing Miki's dead (and then Miki's soul followed him?). This remake made me feel so emotional. I like it~!!
But in my opinion, I like how Miki looks in the old version more (for Mr. Miura I will choose the remake version). And I love the way she smile in the old version.
God I was bawling so hard at the flashback
Ah, I really liked the ending. The extra scene at the end in the Bad Ending was a nice touch. I can't remember if the old one had the short character descriptions including what happened to them 2 years after the events, in the Good Ending, but I liked the fact the game told us, non the less. Overall, I think I like this version more.
I find it interresting story telling that in the bad ending she takes a whole bunch of her medicine and dies
While in the good ending she stops taking it and it's the last time she sees the monster
Brings things open to interpretation
Thank you for this quick journey Manly. I miss Uri's stories, especially the Strange Men series. Love love love watching you play these games. Your videos make my day!
dang manly actually looks like his voice which is normally rare
i'm so glad you mentioned that it reminded you of kairo/pulse! i love that movie and remember thinking that too at some points during this playthrough
I like manly’s voice. *fangirling* 🤣
I like that this version is a lot more thorough with the physiology and characters. They always had mostly everything accounted for, but they gave further reasoning to things, i.e further explanation as to why the mom is such a titanic bitch, without justifying her actions
I think the first Paranoiac might've been the first of Manly's video series I ever watched. This almost felt nostalgic.
OK MANLY GO OFF WITH THAT BEARD, YOU LOOKIN FLY AS FUCK MAN. That aside, Miki's good ending was very sweet. The suggestion between Shinji and she was a soft touch! I remember you playing the original waaaaaaay back when. Improvements were really nice! Especially Shinji's depression after Miki's death in the first ending.
Overall, this remake definitely improved on the story elements of Paranoiac and I'm glad for that, since the original was very lacking in terms of story.
However I'm kind of disappointed that they took the horror down several notches. In my opinion, Paranoiac was probably Uri's scariest game. The jumpscares, the realistic flashing imagery, the sounds... They were all fairly jarring for an RPG Maker game. With this remake they pretty much scrapped the monster and the flashing imagery seems more... Tame? Scripted? It just doesn't deliver the same effect.
Overall I think it was a good remake, though. The adding of more story and character elements were definitely welcome.
Also also, Symptoms appear randomly. You may not have them at first, but you can have them suddenly. Just like you suddenly become allergic to something you've been around your whole life.
That was actually really sweet! With a bit of death and depression of course, I think I prefer these simi horror stories that yes has a monster ghost thing but also a good lesson or point to tell instead of just terror and no substance but yeah I liked the game simple and sweet.
Moral Lesson:
"Its good to comfort and take a look after them instead of making it worst..."
- unknown
Anyone else like when Manly does this "Talk Shows" with the ending of these games and we get to see him for realz? It's always so nice ^^
As someone with depression, this game kind of gave me a little hope. And seeing Manly's handsome face at the end made my day :3
"he's captivated by her strange aura" "lethargic air" he saw miki and said mmmm i love a woman who's so depressed you can feel it in the air fr
No, it was her other good traits. Which she does have.
This is a really compelling, heartbreaking story. I sorta hate and love it at the same time.
Oh! The mom has a name and sprite this time!
I haven't played or watched the original but this is kinda cathartic to watch.
I really loved this remake, 10/10 and I hope Miki and Shinji get to continue to be happy together.
5:00 - no, that is backed up by even Miki saying how terrible her mom was to her aunt.
The old monster mightve been scarier but tbh it didnt make sense to me. At least as a ghost it makes more sense to leave no trace, though it being slower than the old monster is amusing.
9:08 'After all... it is my house.' Oh...oh no. Nah, hold up..wait what...nahhh... Miki said that it's not her home, so it has to be..her.. The aunt...it's...wow.
When the Teddy bear fell and i saw Miki name on It i started crying 💜🥺 that's so sad.. her Auntie love her so much💜
Lets get down to buusssinesssss! To defeat, the spook!
Manly, you're my favorite gaming channel. Thank you so much for revisiting these games. You're awesome ❤️
Bun bun :3
Edit: Damn u Miura why u gotta be so kind in a horror rpg :
I cried at the teddy bear memory.
;^;
Why is the good end so sad
Hello! for all my lovely people out there who have seizures, beware when the screen goes dark when you're hiding, there's a flash, and the bad end, (15:00-16:29) can be rough. Stay Safe!
this has much more depth! i love this remake!! GREAT JOB URI!!!
All that being said about this game being the foundation for The Crooked Man, the game that arguably was Uri's claim to fame, it's a real shame that UA-cam deleted Manly's playthrough of The Crooked Man
i think if they add something to the climax when miki face to face with the ghost, like maybe the ghost slowly turning into saeki and then saeki says "thank you" then slowly fades away, would add more emotional drive to miki and to the player, rather than just miki suddenly fainted, what i kinda don't like is the "monster" design because it looks more like a ghost than a monster
I mean it's in line with schizophrenia symptoms.
I like to think of it as the shadow of her own guilt. I think it works well.
Nice playthrough. I just watched the first two parts today 3 hours earlier.
Thanks for another great LP Manly. Love Uri's games
Damn you have a nice beard. You are aptly named Manly!
Loving the beard, Manly! One step closer to a Keanu reeves cosplay I see -
Damn... seeing your face here for the first time actually shocked me ahahhahaha.
I love Uri's work so much. You can tell she's knowledgeable about mental health, she really approaches it with sensitivity. I haven't played/seen the old version of this, but I really like this remake. The sideways talksprites are really unique and expressive, and I love all the subtle changes in them. The story touched me - the loop of guilt in the bad ending and the path to recovery in the good ending...
(On that note, shkjshk I suspected the mum might be a nurse, but? A nurse with that kind of attitude to mental health, really?)
Thanks for playing this, Manly! You're awesome as always.
Oh, is that doll/nesoberi(?) of Chloe from Kaleid Liner in your room? Nice.
sasuga Manly-senpai, uploading videos right before I go to bed
I think I like this ending, better. It's the same but it showed Mr.Miura point of view in bad ending and the dialogues shows much more expressions. 😢😊
After like almost 10 years i know how my favourite youtuber looks like
the monster is both more fitting, but also significanlty less scary art wise. And the lower speed makes it less hecktic, but less frustrating.
Aside of that, a lot of issues were fixed.
Like the lenght of the well cave. Or the "why doesnt she just leave" question was adressed with the park scene. Which also helped with her feeling of helplessness from the police not taking her serious, and deepen the relationship she has with her neighbour.
POverall, it's definitely a big improvement over the original.
But I wished the monster was kept more gory, scary, then just a float-y shadow.
As someone with an abusuve mom with a personality disorder. The choice for her to take responsibility over her mother is a stupid choice and would ultimately destroy her. The healthiest choice is to cut ties. You cannot control someone so abusive and power hungry.
Speaking of Mermaid Swamp, gotta watch that series still.