[OLD]The New AS VAL Compared to the VSS & SVD | Which is the best Sniper Rifle in DayZ
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
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The newly added AS VAL or SVAL is now in DayZ 1.11 and with it comes a magazine attachment that makes the VSS Vintorez and AS VAL a competitor for best sniper rifle in vanilla DayZ. In this video I go over the stats and compare the SVAL, VSS and SVD or VSD.
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The canted sights should be a separate attachment imo, so you can put them on if you got a big scope on and remove them to use regular iron sights.
Yea and irl it has washav pact rail idk why they given it picatinny rail.
@@mujozustr970if I had to guess I’d say it’s because people were complaining about not having a nato variant so that was their best choice… wish it were separate IMO because the sval is such a beautiful weapon and that clunky thing covers pretty much 100% of it in 1pp minus the barrel.
Yeah, the real AS Val has sights just like the VSS in real life
Good video Wobo :)
Hey everyone! Sour's here!
SVD for general purpose roaming. Val would be better for camping places where people tend to stand still such as wells or even cars. As someone who’s experienced being sniped at by a VSS at long range, there’s a terrifying quality to seeing bullets kick up around you in a dead quiet setting and not hearing a single gunshot.
Try a ghille with a VSS camping your base in the forest.
Stuff of nightmares 😂
@@CcSmokecC my point exactly
Early day dayz vss was terrifying, before the guns became more common
Aren't you supposed to tilt the gun so canted iron sights are horizontal to what you're shooting at? 😂
In real life that is the idea yeah
Never knew this 😂
No the 45 degree you don't need to anything over 45 degree canted sights then yes
This is dayZ, the fullprice rerelease of arma2's dayz mod XD
Is not even arma3.
What did you expect lol
Just stay leaned right
The asval with armor piercing is going to be the new m4 and I'm so fkn hyped
You can put the 20 round mag on the vss, so to be honest there's no point in the asval unless you like baraka or combat sights
@@ilopforli5983 acog too
good luck hitting moving targets past 100 m though mate with your new m4
@@moeb1us maybe he has skill which is something you lack of
@@moeb1us Lmao I've killed people with a fnx farther than that so I don't think it'll be a problem
I wish they’d bring out a night vision scope for the non Russian assault weapons
Your wish came true with 1.14
Found one yesterday
oh boy, AS-VAL with ACOG? count me in!
WHY WOULD ANYONE CONSIDER THE ASVAL BEING A SNIPER ITS A assault rifle VARIENT OF THE VSS
I was thinking the exact same thing
I'm very very happy to see the VSS finally getting some love, it's just such a cool weapon that is being thrown into the 'trash' cathegory just because it's small mag, but now with this buff it's a monster
Are we not going to talk ab the ghillie swimming on land
No
Can't believe you are back, happy to see your in-depth videos again!
Of course they buff my favorite gun after I stop playing.
Also, the VSS/AS Val is the best suppressed gun because you don't have to repair the suppressor separately.
Suppressors got buffed durability too.
Supessors work just fine even if ruined.. Just dont detach those from your gun
Irons glow in the dark!
Reminds me of the glock sights
I se the AsVal as more of strong smg then a sniper,
its an AR tho
You see sense
I mean practically I’m not gonna be using this Asval at anything over 600 so nato attachments are a far better choice in my opinion also honestly I don’t find myself carrying around a night vision scope anyway. The asval will be my CQB to medrange will still keep a Lar or a svd handy
@@tweedy5892 carbine class more than anything irl
I mean that Is what it’s made for
4:16 You just gave me flashbacks to older versions of the game
The canted sights are so weird. You're meant to tilt the gun, but also the sight is attached to a rail attachment, which is attached to the gun. Really both should be items just like the handle iron sights for the m4
The best thing about both of these guns are the AP rounds, from what I've tested they completely ignore plate carriers and give you a reliable 2 tap no matter the armor on an enemy, and that constiency is invaluable
thank you WOBO for this vid and also i heard that the Magnum damage bug has been fixed in the next patch i would not be surprised if it was you or one of members of your testing community that left the feed back on the BI\dayZ forums as it seems to be that was there source for learning about the bug...many thanks too all those responsible for identifying the bug and raising awareness
Great video Wobo; and i loved you Dayz tools website. Itss help a lot me and my friends.
I’d be interested in a breakdown video of all the gun’s and attachment’s durabilities, how viable suppressors are and how quickly the guns themselves break down both in full auto and more sporadic fire
Nice one Wobo!
You should have a updated video of the sval vs vss and possibly have it go against the rest of the snipers like VSD and the Pioneer rifle.
VSS > AS-VAL in my opinion. The PSO-1 Scope is a work of art.
You can definitely feel Sumrak's flair in recent updates, he really has that classic DayZ mod feel down to a tee with the new content he's adding, even if the weapons he's adding weren't in the original mod they 100% have the same look and feeling the OG mod had.
Being someone who speaks a slavic language , hearing the word sumrak is just cringy to me because it means twilight ..
There is a mistake in the video: The best ammunition for sniping is 5.45x39 and not 9x39!
wobo.tools/dayz-damage-drop-off-tool.php?items=-545x39-9x39
TY for the look at the new gun
Wobo, I have a humble request, since I noted a pattern. The damage bug of the revolver got resolved so quick in the experimental branch following your video, that I really think you should use your power to guide the devs attention towards the most important bugs. I mean there are several issues and tickets sitting in the feedback tracker, buried below an immeasureable amount of spam-like tickets. For example a severe bug in the CLE, causing items to spawn in clusters / close vicinity on the map. See report from sanguine in ticket T152626. Thank you for your help. Maybe you could use your network of knowledgeable persons like Gews to make a "collection" of the important things that would help improve the experience of players tremendously. Thanks again.
Maybe the bug got solved fast because it was simple.
you're a hero WOBO, i hope you know this
Irons glow in the dark and the front sight dot looks like it is transperant.
Shooting long distance with either the AS VAL or the VSS puts both weapons completely out of their element. They're designed to be used no further out than say 300m. They're very specific weapons made for clandestine or undercover operations, so please keep that in mind before you snipe at 600m with one.
Love the 45° irons buttt uhhhhh I would like to see a canted animation when you ADS a canted optic lol
You don't have to can't for 45 anything over a 45 degree cant you have have to turn
@@camoman132 my brain hurt reading this
@@camoman132 have you ever had a dream that you could that want you could do want you to that you can want to do anything?
@@rollin9692 woops lol , I was typing it at work lol wasn't really paying attention
@@bootvids yes.
Just wanna let you know the As Val is not a sniper its a
Assault rifle
It’s a carbine rifle
@@D3athmooman in warzone lmao
@@doctorv9336 no, it’s a carbine, a carbine is a assault rifle platform weapon in the format of a sub machine weapon. please learn about firearms. The asval was designed as a carbine rifle as a compact hard hitting primary
@@D3athmooman found the quiet kid
@@ChiefRezResin yep
''Heavy gun wrap- I mean Ghille gun wrap.''
If you've watched his attachment video, you'd get the joke.
Yeh, I knew exactly what he meant by that :D
Haha! Omg! I had no idea! XD!
The character doesn't tilt the SVAL to look through the canted sight. Also I get with the sights being on the left, rounds would eject more towards the floor if the gun was tilted but it would personally feel weird to tilt my gun right instead of left to use a canted sight, so I'd have them on the right side
Great info as always Wobo.
The canted sights seem redundant in my opinion, they are mainly used for close quarters situations when the primary optic is of high magnification. You can switch between the irons and sights but only with red dots, which are perfectly functional at CQB anyways and when utilising the ACOG optic, the toggle switches to the 4x magnification and the backup irons mounted atop the scope only. Agree they do look cool AF though.
It's the other way around. The rifle needed iron sights for when you do not have a sight and regular BUIS would block ACOG.
The canted sights are sick
The ASVAL was never intended to be a DMR unlike the VSS , strictly for use in cqc environments and only allowed for a select SF units in Russia.
hehe asv with 6x
Wobo and Asmondian cooperation? JuhU!!!
Ya can't compare the vss or asval to the svd. they're completely different animals for different purposes!!
Well you can use the tilted sights with the optics attached so you can choose what you want to use? Because optic sights cover the standart sights on the gun. You justs tilt the gun and you can use them even if you had optics on gun.
I know this video is outdated but would be cool if there was a button to look at the top of your magazine to see if you have ap/tracer rounds next. And maybe an action to helmet tap your mag to prevent bullet jams by idk let's say 2%.
*Riddle: What kind of tree can you carry in your hand?*
the ghillie gunwrap... atleast in terms of weight
Small tree
@@TheWorldEnd2 Nope
@@frankwhite4128 No:)
Family tree
Your outro is so cool
Did they fix the magnum bug in the 1.11 experimental release?
Apparently, it's in the patch notes
wobo should really think about which bugs he gives his cone of visibility / reach / coverage
I'd still pick SVD for sniping over anything, with Tundra as second best replacement. Close-quarters though mostly due to RPM VSS and SVAL come out on top for sure. Checked the RMP on WOBO TOOLS. Very helpful stuff, my guy!
Before Military Gear I love the Blaze with the Double shot option... It's iron sights are amazing, range and power are above the Tundra due to double shot.
ATM I'm searching for military guns at crash sights... Got lar mags, Vss, vsd mags, optics for both options... Just searching has not been fruitful... Found a Aug... But don't care for it.
The only bad thing about asval and vss is the smoke that covers all your vision when fired in full auto.Which makes it a good weapon for buildings fights but on the open field you better to shoot semi auto because you enemy simply can move a little bit and you wont see it. Also the way out is to not aim downsights which can makes it slightly better. Heres also a huge thing about sniping that wasnt noticed that your bullet flying almost impossible to hear because of this slow bullet which makes sniping super stealthy up to 200 meters.
I love it man! Such a great gun againn
They need more nato sights in the game
I like the Val a lot because we now have a assault rifle in 9x39 and a sniper
The svd would be good if it didn't randomly do 0 damage to players when they're hit
VSS and the ASVAL make less noise than suppressors on other guns. Making this a ninja 🥷 spec operations!
Good they've added this 20 rounds mag. Now these integrally silenced rifles are becoming interesting alternatives to other long range guns.
I believe I've never had the chance to come by any of these guns due to item stacking by players / loot economy mechanics. (I think I've found a ruined SVD once without magazine)
But thanks anyway 😀.
The only way to get them basically is a lucky heli crash or killing players who are playing with it. Don't bother looting for it^^
@@HoldonABC Yes ! I think that's is the only way beside playing on private servers.
Probably using the VSS with the 20 round AS-VAL mag will be huge ... since you can use the nightvision and PSO scope on the VSS - of course you can use the ATOG to snipe with the AS-VAL but that's up to personal preference. Overall I think the VSS with the AS-VAL mag will be my sniper rifle of choice ... pair than up with a silenced M4 and you're good to go
Well can I finally use it as a assault rifle now ?
why isn't the pic rail adapter a separate thing, If they release AS VAL as is we will literally never stop complaining about it
but I think that this will be resolved in 1.11 full release
How can you use the canted sight in xbox while having an ATOG on it ? Couldn't figure oht wich button
Press or hold right on D-pad
Tritium canted iron sights, nice!
Isnt asval a assault rifle?
Yep
The Val isn’t even a sniper rifle
Technically it is
@@ilirians2183 no the fuck it’s not dude it’s the assault rifle variant of the VSS which is the sniper variant
@@Venom21211 yea ur right I was think of the vss but they basic the same shit
@@ilirians2183 the AS VAL stands for Автомат Специальный Вал which is used for CQB the VSS which stands for Винтовка Снайперская Специальная which is usually with a PSO1-1 not that the VAL can’t be fitted with one you just typically don’t see them with it learn your fucking shit before you try to correct someone they’re both basically the same weapon with slight differences
@@Venom21211 In real life these weapons as the same apart from the buttstock. So don't shit yourself
Is it me or at 4:23 the SVD ammo is showing .308 on the picture?
How is a canted iron supposed help you aim if your line of fire is not aligned to the shooters eyesight?
I think I know what my new favorite CQB weapon is (as val 20 rd mag)
how did you used the canted sights while using the baraka sights?
You aren't supposed to cant the weapon to use those sights.
They are on the wrong side for that. They be on the right if you were supposed to cant the weapon to use them.
Bro,,, VSD lol nice video as always though
I heard of almonds. Watch dayzpodcast..... great video
Awesome mate thanks
So did the 9x39 get a damage buff? Or is my memory of it having the same damage as the 5.56 and 7.62x39 flawed?
AFAIK it had 95 damage for a long time.
@@WOBO thanks for the reply, somehow even after watching your previous statistical analysis several time I still had that damage rating wrong.
Not sure if it's just me but i can't switch to the canted sight if i have an optic equipped
Sniping with a subsonic ammo... not really what it was designed for. Comparing the val/vss with a svd is like comparing apples anf oranges
The Vss or sval is the gun you use alongside the vsd
"Heavy gun wrap" good one lol
So when is the gun being released on console?
Same time as pc
ASVAL NOT A SNIPER RIFLE BTW. Its a assault rifle. VSS is a DMR.
The ASVAL is coo and all but can we use asval mags on the vss? I know you can use vss mags on the asval, but what about those 20 mags 👀
Is it on console? I run a PS4 server and I’d like to update my loot economy to make it alil easier to get my hands on it and so what it can do
These weps are shit at sniping due to traveling time, however super good in close range combat
will they ever add the trumpet, scout, m249, short pump shotgun and bows again? :c
Why Trumpet
Just why
So wait can the 20 round magazines take AP rounds?
Give a moment of silence for shovel with a scope on
How do you spawn player character in offline mode ?
Damn that was fast
The vss is not this good now right ?
Still waiting for Groza-4 add in this game, maybe 2 or 3 more years to wait?
The asval is classed as a assault rifle in the game notes
wait is this in the unmodded vanilla game?
I need a new gun I'm on console
Rip, knowing console server loot no one will find one for a year or two
The canted sights mount on the wrong side is just embarrassing. 😔
Releasing a literally already released mod as fullprice game and being behind said mod is embarrassing XD
@@Schimml0rd Can you stop spamming about the ARMA 2 mod already. Fuck off and play that instead if it's so much better
The AS VAL is officially an assault rifle, rather than an SMG and definately not a sniper rifle.
The SVD is not a Sniper's rifle. It's this is Marksman's rifle
VSS/ ASVAL it hard to use because the bullet Is so slow, hard to judge how much to lead shots over long distance, it's better as a close range smg
The asval a new gun coming ?
The "UNUSUAL" thing that hes talking about is the fact that the ASVAL is slanted but the sights are straight.
unless your target is a couple hundred meters away and moving to your left then realistically that's the only time you could hit your target with that sight. XD
@@a1rfield DayZ always assumes your gun is levelled, even when leaning.
@@MarcinP2 yeah 😂
@@a1rfield But also the 180m zero is also just a ~20m zero due to bullet curve and high sight offset. :) You can test it.
@@MarcinP2 how long have you been working for bohemia?
Will the asval be available on console?
The fore sight is illuminated
I really wanted them to unlock the frame rate for the PS5
Whelp after 1.12 the sk is the op weapon... 1 hit to ko in a plate vest or 1 hit to ko your legs by breaking them... Which is worse...
Was gonna complain you can't use russian sights, but you literally can't attach them with the iron sights.
hhhmmm that interesting how the VAL and the VSS have the same dispersion rating yet...the VAL came before the VSS.....and the VSS was built for accuracy where as the VAL was built to be a silent sub\assault rifle for Russian Spetsnaz ( Russian special forces).........by the way are sure that the Val mags fit the VSS in dayZ? i told else where by the youtuber Marks that they don`t fit in VSS.. also i`am disappointed that the VAL you are forced to use a picatinny rail rather than it being an attachment......don`t get me wrong its cool and would be nice to see this made for other weapons but as an optional attachment....rather than being forced, i mean mod makers have already come up with rails i think BI should make it optional and not force a weapon to be stuck with a rail that some won`t like
Irons to the left instead of the right
My LAR still gonna clap anyone using the VAL
Both two shot in the chest if the enemy is wearing plate carrier, but as val and vss has MUCH faster fire rate. The person you're up against must be quite bad in order for you to win.
@@fl1x848 No, val and vss are not "MUCH" faster, its barely over a 10% difference. And when considering a VSS or VAL wont 1 tap someone in the head if they are wearing a good helmet like an LAR will, AND taking into consideration the LAR is far better at long range due to significantly better shell velocity, and the fact that ammunition is far more common and versatile for the LAR, and the fact that LAR literally does more damage, blood damage, and shock damage, need I go on? I would much rather have my LAR, its just supremely more versatile. Its better at hunting/ fighting bears, better at anything over 100m, better for sniping longer distances at moving targets, and its a beast at cqc. The val and vss are really only *slightly* better, and even thats disputable, in very close quarters due to the fact that it is a much shorter weapon and has slightly higher fire rate. and even then vss is garbage because it has only 10 round mag. This is coming from someone who has thousands of hours in the game and plenty of experience on lar and vss platforms. I dont even bother picking up the vss anymore if i have a mosin.
@@Sarcasmos-ft7gz vss/val is easily a 1 shot to the head no matter what you are wearing? Sure the fal is better at long range but everyone runs with a secondary that's usually the Winchester or blaze. Even if it was a 1v1 long range then the vss has an advantage over being silent, you wouldn't even hear the orgin of the bullet while the fal gives your location away. While the vss isn't great for long range, it deals more damage over the fal at a distance of 470m.
The vss has an advantage over it at night as it can take the nvg scope, while the pso1 scope is far better at long range compared to the acog because of the reticle.
These two guns are heli tier so it's very likely a plate carrier would be on these two. If this is the case then blood and shock do not matter, and both will 2 tap the enemy.
Vss is way better than the fal for hunting? When using a fal you would be giving your position away while the vss wouldn't. Hunting is the worst time to give yourself away because you will be stuck in one area waiting for your food to cook or just cutting up the animal.
Both are fully automatic with 20 round mags.
I think both have the same fire rate being 600 rpm.
I feel that they have a slight difference in play styles that throwing them in an equal situation wouldn't be helpful. The guns only good if there is a tactic involved and both can't be a silent ghillie while also running around town with a cannon.
I hear this is the part where we say we have no lives. Got 3.7k hours started on 1.0 update with 2.6k being on hardcore server.
@@Sarcasmos-ft7gz I just found out the val and fal have the same rpm stat, which is very unrealistic as the cal can shoot around 300 MORE rounds per minute than the fal in real life.
Is it possible to get a flash hider or silencer for the LAR?