First Look, Wiring, And Startup Of The Lowest Cost 2 2 kw Spindle And VFD On Amazon
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2020
- Decided to try the lowest price 2.2kw 220 volt 3 phase 3hp spindle and 2.2 kw 220 volt VFD that I could find on Amazon. This is a water cooled 3 bearing spindle that is 80mm diameter with an ER-20 collet. This video just shows the run-out of the one I received along with wiring it up enough to test that it functions. I am really surprised how quiet it is. The integration and programming will be in future videos about rebuilding my router. Time will tell how long it lasts, Here are links for the full specs. Anyone not experienced with wiring 220 volt devices should hire an electrician for all wiring.
2.2 kw VFD amzn.to/32FqEV5
2.2 kw water cooled spindle amzn.to/3jqT77X they only supply 3 collets not the 5 listed
80 mm Spindle bracket amzn.to/32EVRI6
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Did you ever think you would have 101k subscribers.. congratulations love the channel
Thanks. No I didn't. Thanks for subbing and watching.
Putting this in a router table is a great idea. Might have to think about doing that in my upcoming router table build.
Not sure if you would need a 4 bearing model but you would barely hear it and be able to make a nice sealed dust collector adapter. I am thinking about a mortise machine with one if this works good. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Indeed! It would be a luxury that I might be willing to indulge in! If you search for "George Carlson Router Lift" on UA-cam, he has a brilliant example of using one with an Arduino-based, stepper motor lift.
Keep us updated on a Mortiser project, that will be special!
Usually for the summer you stick to the garden videos, with a few out door project’s depending on weather. But you’ve had several workshop videos the past few months, so I for one am anxious to see what’s coming.
Too hot outside. Spent most of the summer in the basement with the AC on. Thanks for watching.
Thats pretty awesome. Thanks for the video
I think it should work good. Thanks for watching.
I'm looking forward to seeing what this spindle can do. I am thinking of building a decent CNC as I have outgrown my X-carve
Supposed to be 3 hp and able to run continuous. It will be fun to see how it works and lasts.
Sure enjoy your videos every subject is interesting!
Glad you like them. I just love learn about new things and hit many subjects. Thanks for watching.
Looking forward to this project! I am always impressed by the breadth of knowledge you have on so many topics. What was your career before you retired?
Thanks. I was a mechanical design engineer that was replaced by H1B workers and laid off 15 years ago. Got mad and dropped out of the workforce. That's where the Unemployed in my channel name came from. Thanks for watching.
another cool project
Something to do when the garden is done and firewood moved up. Thanks for watching.
That thing sure is fancy looking
its its really pretty simple. a 3 phase motor with the vfd to turn 2 phase power into 3 phase power at varying frequency. Thanks for watching.
I can't wait to see what you're making on those long CNC runs!
Probably a lot of mistakes to start with. 3d carvings take a long time. Thanks for watching.
I sure hope you will include a build video on making a lift. This is the most awesome idea I have seen for ultimate control. I know it is 3 hp but does it have the torque to run larger paneling bits like normal 3 hp routers do?
I am using this on my CNC router. I used a Jessem lift on the table build. There's a playlist about it. Thanks for watching.
very cool will you run the water through a radiator coil with a fan for cooling the water down? then to the storage bucket for further cooling?
I don't plan on a radiator. I think a bucket on the cool floor will be enough. If not I am thinking some solid state cooling modules on an aluminum block with a small reservoir. Thanks for watching.
Hello, thanks for the great vidéo. Don't you think It's a bit to heavy for a workbee cnc ? Thanks
I have no idea. It's heavy so check with your cnc manufacturer. Thanks for watching.
Hi man , can you show the outputs terminals , you know i have a VFD like that one but it came without a label for input and output three phase if you have time to show me I'll appreciate it
I would look for a manufacturer name and part number then look up for a manual that shows the hookup and programming to be safe. They all seem to use different terminals and have different program values to get operating without damaging anything. Thanks for watching.
So cool...
Add some water and it will stay cool no mater how long it runs. Thanks for watching.
Hi I've just brought the same components. Did you wire it up to be controlled by software and if so do you have a wiring diagram. Thanks
Yes I did. I don't remember the exact wiring but the Masso controller instructions had a similar VFD and I used that. The pamphlet with the VFD also lists the input and output connections. Any questions contact your machine controller manufacturer before turning anything on. Thanks for watching.
I have a three phase grinder from Dayton and I have to convert it to I guess single phase 220 I have no manual for it I have the same one you have in this video mines a 1.5 I guess I tried to blow your pictures up but couldn’t see where the three wires coming from the 220 plug in the wall would go and where do I put the three wires coming out of the machine to my grinder could you show a better picture of that or at least send it to me ? I would greatly greatly appreciate any help
On mine the input went to the l and n. The output to the spindle go to u, v, and w. check your manufacturer's manual to be safe. Thanks for watching.
My problem is direction of rotation is wrong.
How to rotate direction of motor to right direction.
Engine always turns the other way around. weird.
How to set M03 direction of rotation.
I think you may have the spindle wires switched. You can also switch directions in the setup program. Contact the manufacturers of your spindle and drive to get the instructions for wiring and drive setup.
is there any wiring between the VFD and mach3 (or nc studio ) card?
It is all in the VFD manual. The masso made it easy to wire and control. Still works good Thanks for watching.
Do you know if this can run an 800w spindle? I picked up this same VFD but the spindle that came with it is a water cooled 220v 800w.
I do not know. If your spindle is 400hz 3 phase you should just be able to reprogram the vfd parameters. Contact the seller and see If they can help you. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 Thanks I appreciate your reply. I don't know who the seller is I bought it third party locally. Have a good one I'll be. Checking out your channel more often.
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How many amps is the 220v single-phase input?
2.2 kw. I have mine plugged into a 20 amp circuit. Thanks for watching.
what NEMA motor could move that spindle ???? thanks
That all depends on your machine design and speed. Thanks for watching.
I can't find any 16g 4 core sheilded cable only 18g rated at 600v...will that do
For what? Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 sorry for the vfd to the spindle
I just went with 16/3 unshielded and kept it seperate from the other wires as far as I could. Used a seperate ground wire to the z near the spindle mount so there wouldn't be a loop back to earth ground. So far no problems. I read different things about that 4th ground wire and decided to try this first.
how reverse spindle motor?
The fwd/rev button on the vfd or wire it per the instructions to your machine controller. Thanks for watching.
Great video! A bit late to the game, but could you elaborate on how you safely grounded the spindle even though you only had a 3-wire cable?
I have a #12 ground cable hooked to the Z carriage the spindle mount is bolted to. Provides ground and helps with electrical noise.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 thanks for clarifying!
There is also another ground on the x carriage. Bearings are not good grounds so all components are tied back to the frame ground. Helps with electrical noise from things like spindles also.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 thank you, this whole build was super informative
Im trying to hook it up to mach3 but seem impossible to do , no tutorials on this
I use the Masso and just followed the directions in both manuals. Really has worked good so far. I quit using Mach 32 and switched to a Masso controller that I would highly recommend and it costs less in the long run. Check Mach forums.
i was just looking at them on ebay and bing for cutting and maybe stainless steal then you popup
You would probably want a 4 bearing one for stainless. I looked on ebay also but most had to be shipped from offshore that can take some time. Thanks for watching.
Looks like Santa Claus is at work getting ready to deliver some Spindle presents lol
This turned out being a decent spindle. Thanks for watching.
How is this spindle holding up for you
Still doing good. I bought another air cooled one for my slab flattener and like the HY vfd better though. Thanks for watching.
How about pwm ?
I have no ldea. look in the manual. Thanks for watching.
torque ? is it a concern?
This one is rated at 3hp at 8 amps and 24000 rpm. It is a 2 pole 3 phase motor rated at 14 nm or about 10.3 ft pounds of torque at top rpm and the torque will be less at lower rpms. I think from about 15k to 24k the torque is fairly good. I understand the VFD can crank it up to 9 amps for short periods of time. Below that it drops off and this can only be run for short periods when you get down to 8k. For cutting wood I am not worried with the chip load but for steel you would have a big issue with the lower rpm limits. I will find out but from videos that I have seen i doubt it will be an issue. I have not been able to find good data sheets on this combination. Thanks for watching.
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I see the VFD has gone up to $150.00
Wonder if it's because the dollar is loosing value everyday against other currencies lately. If you put a item in your cart the price usually drops after a week or 2. Prime days is in 2 weeks with some good deals also if you are looking for one. Mine has worked great but for that new price you can get a name brand. Thanks for watching.
@@unemployedredneckhillbilly2023 I found one on EBAY for $80. spindle 135.00 I believe so I am pleased with the price. Thank you for your reply. A friend of mine gave me a frame for a 24"X24" router. It is a welded 4" stell sq tubing with about 1.4" walls. It has been machined for rails. With this spindle and the new motors and drives It should cut aluminum like butter. (:)) I am 79 retired and having fun.
sorry miss quote it was $136 not $150 On Amazon