Doing some tuba and trombone studio work this weekend and was looking for mic placement ideas. You covered all the bases and in such a concise presentation. Much thanks, and excellent work
Here is one for you. In a polka band where you want kind of a fat brass sound with a sousaphone (dutchman style - Tuba, drums, Euphonium/baritone, trumpet, 2 reeds, accordion/vocals) I used an SM 57 and just stuck it all the way down into resting in the bottom crook of the sousaphone. Worked really well. However one time a sound guy kept changing the settings and I was balancing with the group and he kept cranking me up and the accordion. So I had to play quieter and quieter. The accordion's mikes started to feedback and the band leader went to the sound board during a chart put the squoze box down, marched up to the stage, set the sound and told the guy DONT TOUCH THE BOARD AGAIN! (it was someone who wasn't experienced) Finally I could use a little more volume and have some control. Never really had mike rattle. Did it in many performances out doors when everyone was miked for a bigger sound - or in a big hall like wurstfest in New Braunfels. That then led to 'I got the devil in me' musical joke. In the Emelia polka final strain/trio I get a little 3 step down note tuba solo. When we were playing in Ft Worth on the street in a 4 man gig I just decided to let out an enormous tuba honk instead of the expected da-da-da. It was an area with stores and apartments above and we were sort of wall paper music. So with the mike in the horn I let out a big blast like a mad elephant to get a little attention. Everyone came to their windows and looked up like 'what was THAT?' This broke up the guys so bad they almost couldn't finish the chart for laughing. Then it became a thing so they avoided the Emelia polka when I played. Or put in there to break people up as it was almost expected. I did in the wursthall with a LOT of amplification and people were having a good time not really expecting it and Jumbo Senior let out his challenge. That got everyone's attention in the hall and again everyone nearly fell of the stage laughing. My magnificent Stoopid tuba solo. If they asked me to play it right I did of course. But usually Emelia was trotted out with expected side glances... We also played San Antonio Rose or Nagasaki too (off shoot of the foxtrot orchestra's players) which put some variety in the sets. (Even broke into Living on a Prayer once - all played by ear) In polka music which can be repetitive I worked to make everyone sound better and went off page improvising/varying bass lines. This then invigorated and energized the other performers. My job as a tuba player is to make everyone sound better. I am the offensive lineman that lets the quarterback and star players do their thing. My foundation is what everyone builds on. If I do that well then everyone does better. (other than stoopid stuff) Really like your flexibility, playing and musicianship. I also play trombone, euphonium, and even sax for a little while. I did some electric bass but though meh... and also play accordion and keyboards. If you find the 'Here We Go' album by the Royal Klobasneks you can get a taste for how I did polka music. And in october, I either had a tux on or lederhosen... ;) I am mostly retired from that scene now just playing for fun in community groups or with friends.
Brooooo....what a video, thank you!! WOW THE ROYER!!! My favourite :) Would love to hear what the Royer sounds like with the Sousaphone if you have time someday :) Thanks for being you, BIG Love from Big Duck in Australia
Hmm, I hadn't thought of putting a mic inside the bell. Well, not seriously, anyway. Gonna have to try that out with my SM57 as I've been feeling like my sound has been thin in recordings and I've been looking for ways to adjust my setup. I also have a condenser mic; a small diaphragm I originally used for other recordings yet eventually started pairing with the Shure at a different position in an attempt to add more depth to the recording. Been pondering adding another specifically for tuba, however, and may look into a ribbon mic if not a large diaphragm condenser. Well, assuming I don't achieve a sound I'm looking for by miking the bell.
For live brass ensemble recording it would be convenient to use a bass mic cutting sound over 10khz to get close micing of the different groups without bleed/feedback and stuff like that. How do you eq? Is lp over 10khz too rude?
This is quite informative! I went with a condenser microphone myself and it sounds good. Would it be better to use a pop filter when recording tuba playing or is it better to record without the filter?
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Doing some tuba and trombone studio work this weekend and was looking for mic placement ideas. You covered all the bases and in such a concise presentation. Much thanks, and excellent work
Thank you 🙏
Here is one for you. In a polka band where you want kind of a fat brass sound with a sousaphone (dutchman style - Tuba, drums, Euphonium/baritone, trumpet, 2 reeds, accordion/vocals) I used an SM 57 and just stuck it all the way down into resting in the bottom crook of the sousaphone. Worked really well. However one time a sound guy kept changing the settings and I was balancing with the group and he kept cranking me up and the accordion. So I had to play quieter and quieter. The accordion's mikes started to feedback and the band leader went to the sound board during a chart put the squoze box down, marched up to the stage, set the sound and told the guy DONT TOUCH THE BOARD AGAIN! (it was someone who wasn't experienced) Finally I could use a little more volume and have some control. Never really had mike rattle. Did it in many performances out doors when everyone was miked for a bigger sound - or in a big hall like wurstfest in New Braunfels.
That then led to 'I got the devil in me' musical joke. In the Emelia polka final strain/trio I get a little 3 step down note tuba solo. When we were playing in Ft Worth on the street in a 4 man gig I just decided to let out an enormous tuba honk instead of the expected da-da-da. It was an area with stores and apartments above and we were sort of wall paper music. So with the mike in the horn I let out a big blast like a mad elephant to get a little attention. Everyone came to their windows and looked up like 'what was THAT?' This broke up the guys so bad they almost couldn't finish the chart for laughing. Then it became a thing so they avoided the Emelia polka when I played. Or put in there to break people up as it was almost expected.
I did in the wursthall with a LOT of amplification and people were having a good time not really expecting it and Jumbo Senior let out his challenge. That got everyone's attention in the hall and again everyone nearly fell of the stage laughing. My magnificent Stoopid tuba solo. If they asked me to play it right I did of course. But usually Emelia was trotted out with expected side glances... We also played San Antonio Rose or Nagasaki too (off shoot of the foxtrot orchestra's players) which put some variety in the sets. (Even broke into Living on a Prayer once - all played by ear)
In polka music which can be repetitive I worked to make everyone sound better and went off page improvising/varying bass lines. This then invigorated and energized the other performers.
My job as a tuba player is to make everyone sound better. I am the offensive lineman that lets the quarterback and star players do their thing. My foundation is what everyone builds on. If I do that well then everyone does better. (other than stoopid stuff)
Really like your flexibility, playing and musicianship. I also play trombone, euphonium, and even sax for a little while. I did some electric bass but though meh... and also play accordion and keyboards.
If you find the 'Here We Go' album by the Royal Klobasneks you can get a taste for how I did polka music. And in october, I either had a tux on or lederhosen... ;) I am mostly retired from that scene now just playing for fun in community groups or with friends.
Brooooo....what a video, thank you!! WOW THE ROYER!!! My favourite :) Would love to hear what the Royer sounds like with the Sousaphone if you have time someday :) Thanks for being you, BIG Love from Big Duck in Australia
Great video, I love that sousaphone sound! My favorite mic for my tuba is the MD421 in the bell, real full and punchy.
Apesar de não entender absolutamente nada em inglês, consegui extrair e entender a ideia passado no vídeo, Excelente tubared parabéns.
man imagine how crazy loud it would sound to crank the sousa (like they do in marching bands) while it's hooked up to the mic.
Great Demo, wish I had this a couple years ago!
I also really liked the quote from the bass line from the wiz... ;)
Great job bro!
Thanks D!
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Thank you this is exactly what I needed
Glad it helped.
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Nice video but what about when a wireless microphone is needed???
Great video! Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
Awesome Vid! Quick question what’s your thoughts on Loud mouthpiece’s (LM-12)
Not sure.
What Sousaphone and mouthpiece are you playing on? You sound great.
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Hmm, I hadn't thought of putting a mic inside the bell. Well, not seriously, anyway. Gonna have to try that out with my SM57 as I've been feeling like my sound has been thin in recordings and I've been looking for ways to adjust my setup.
I also have a condenser mic; a small diaphragm I originally used for other recordings yet eventually started pairing with the Shure at a different position in an attempt to add more depth to the recording. Been pondering adding another specifically for tuba, however, and may look into a ribbon mic if not a large diaphragm condenser. Well, assuming I don't achieve a sound I'm looking for by miking the bell.
That will do it for sure
This is what the Superbowl should have done with your sousaphone back in 2022!
Dude! You’re doing it! Yes! Awesome!
Thanks!!
Being a trombone player and educator I definitely learned a lot
Being a bedroom producer, I definitely learned a lot, and also got some really clean samples at the same time!
For live brass ensemble recording it would be convenient to use a bass mic cutting sound over 10khz to get close micing of the different groups without bleed/feedback and stuff like that. How do you eq? Is lp over 10khz too rude?
This is quite informative! I went with a condenser microphone myself and it sounds good. Would it be better to use a pop filter when recording tuba playing or is it better to record without the filter?
No need for a pop filter. There isn’t enough wind coming out to be heard.
Great work! Very helpfull
Glad to hear that!
Good stuff my brother. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Thoughts on using an shure SM7B?
Used one for years!
Great work! :)
Thank you ♥️
great vidio THANKS!!!!
Great demo man!
Thank you!
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Have you heard of Sessions? I think you will kill it there!
You stand out as an individual performer. Your voice is amazing! I just messaged you, let’s connect!💖💖💖
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