Blizzards EMERGENCY Updates On Season Of Discovery Phase 3.
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Oh man do we have a lot of drama to get through in today's video. tons of incursion information to talk about, changes to the rate and a bunch of other things, bugs and exploits going on right now and so so much more. phase 3 just released and we already got a big video to talk about, with changes coming this tuesday. I hope you're ready, let's go.
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00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Gnomergan Leveling!?
01:33 - Ashenvale Rep FIXED!
02:15 - HUGE Engineering Additions
03:24 - BRD Bosses...?
04:20 - MASSIVE Changes Incoming.
08:15 - We Gotta Talk.
12:10 - Amazing Daily Quest Reward
13:35 - MY Thoughts On Phase 3 heading Into The Future
17:20 - Thank you all so much! - Ігри
I’m having a tough time getting into phase 3.
I haven’t even had the energy to level to 41 yet and I’m not sure exactly why. I think it might be a me problem cause I’m trying to get so much stuff done in real life that I’ve been putting off. I have the time to level (with the xp buff and incursions) but the drive just isn’t there to go and do it.
I’m not a doomer at all, I had a LOT of fun during phase 1 and 2 but for some reason I feel so burnt out now.
Anyone else experiencing this?
I have no desire to play anymore. It’s not like the content and changes are bad, but inexplicably I just don’t care to play. I’ll wait for Cataclysm.
Nope I feel the same way the burn out is real, and because I wasn’t sweaty on launch day and play all night doing incursions everyone in my guild is 50 and I’m only level 42 and super behind the curve and it’s literally been a few days….
@@matthewknorr7237I don't understand you people with "no time" not understanding that incursions are literally perfect for you. I only had a few hours to play this weekend, did incursions was able to hit 50 in like less than 4-5 hours TOTAL of playing over the last 4 day... Also, if you don't like that play style, level at your own pace and what's fun. It's not that hard. People are such cry babies.
For me it’s the levelling grind each phase.
@@matthewknorr7237 i was 2 week late in p2....still managed to be full BIS and have a great time. Stop it with that victim mind set.
Dude I had to work from Thursday to Sunday. I missed all the good incursion stuff.
Feels like I always miss the early stuff before it gets nerfed
But still do it while u can get 50 easily
You only missed 2/3 gold, what else ALL good stuff you missed?
@@sergtrufanov5565 some people made 800g, some people made a 150 - You don't think thats a big thing to miss?
I’m in the same boat bud. My guild left me in the dust.
my internet was out from Thursday til Saturday, and work the rest for the time too :[
WTF is a 'NOM'ish' ? NOM-NOMS? --- "Are you a dwarf?" "No, I'm a NOM" ....
this!:D
FR. Rhymes with home, bud, even with the -ish.
Skyy is a smart dude, he may just know that mispronouncing something is a good way to drive engagement on YT.
Nom-eregan?
It's the trollish dialect for gnome, because when they put a gnome in a cookpot they go om-nom-nom!
The incursions not being instanced is the worst part. Now that everyone is 50 and got their gold they are just sitting there farming honor now whenever the faction balance tips.
As a casual/limited time player, i feel like devs betrayed me. All nerds who exploited incursions early on got waaay ahead of us, and the phase even didn't start yet. I already feel left behind and dont know if I should even try to chase them. And players' elitism is making all of it even worse. I barely made it to Gnomergan once, though it was not hard at all, but gatekeepers did their job well. I feel like it will be impossible for me to get in pugs for ST. And a lot of busy/casual players can't raid with guild cause of moving schedules. I guess i will quit. I liked start of it a lot thought.
Chase who. These same ppl you wanna chase would still be ahead of you bc that’s how they play not matter what those players are gonna be far ahead they play all day.
Phase 3 of lacerate and mangle still being on the same rune slot
It seems like such an easy fix. Maybe put lacerate on the leg runes slot and that would fix so much of bears kit. Now the gore rune work properly. The tooltip even describes using lacerate to proc gore for mangle resets… too bad you can’t use lacerate and mangle at the same time. Come on blizzard. Fix it
Don't work they gave us a rune to proc mangle off lacerate! Problem solved.
What you expect? Its blizzard
This is by far the worst phase to date. How on earth did they think that running in circles is a fun way to level. The whole point of sod is to get out and discover. Instead I run in circles for 3 hours and I’m 50. The devs are completely out of touch. So many amazing things you could have done. Let alone not even being bothered to add a world pvp event. I hate how you’ve taken such a good idea and just fucked it.
What are you 12 years old? This all in your head, you could EASILY quest to 50 in a couple days and still be plenty caught up. Don't follow the crowd because the crowd is dumb
"how on earth did they think running in circles is a fun way to play?"
I'm pretty sure it wasn't there intention to have people running in circles. 😄 Maybe they didn't have enough people when they play tested it before to realise with that many people playing Ash incursions, most people can just skip the fights altogether. 99% there was no intention in designing the race track like it ended up becoming.
The Problem is that the Devs dont even think People will do IT Like this. I bet they tested a few Quest and we're Happy about their Produkt. People now found a stupid easy way to get XP fast
it is a world pvp event, people just arent fighting yet
Nobody forced you to do it , you chose to do it because it’s the fastest way and you had no control and did it.
Personally I decided to level a new main from level 1 this phase.
I thought before it launched that the incursions would be an instance and the quests would be Daily, or 3 day lock outs. It blew my mind they were infinitely repeated and that is awful. I don't think the gold bonus should have applied above level 40, exp yes, gold no. I feel like they set the gold amount with the quest to what you were supposed to receive with the 300% buff. I missed the big money window by less than an hour because Life, I'm not too irked about it, but it's a massive L that it happened.
You still can farm good xp and gold. from 40-50 you gain atleast 200g + rep.
@@dreamyy4153 true, but the 1% get richer kinda thing ya know lol .. the 1% being the tryhards in WoW's case.. and theyre not benefitting from being better, or more dedicate in itself, but those traits were rewarded because of MASSIVE blizzard oversight.
it's like the government arbitrarily rewarding the top 1% for a period of time, and then pushing regulations on everybody after they reap the rewards, so the 99% never benefitted from the advantage.. further pushing the divide between the top and the rest
im being dramatic, but u get what i mean i hope lol
@@dreamyy4153 indeed I will be, doing incursion as we speak 👌🏻
I cared around about incursions, but since I leveled fast I am realizing there is a ton to do. Being a UPS driver wasn’t great, but I do thing a daily lockout of a single run isn’t worth going all the way there. Perhaps 5 repeat or something that would be worth my time. Also we have to remember this is how we get wardens rep so we can’t just cap it.
@@joe_duck fair but also there is 4 incursion points around the world, so doing all 4 sets once daily or every 3 days would and should be a fair amount of rep/& exp
OK this would be wild but hear me out.
Hunter rune that changes eye of the beast. Not only do you control your pet but your pet gains several new abilities that let you tank. Meanwhile the hunter acts like a pet, autoattacking the boss, using a few abilities on CD etc
SoD has a lot of tanks but this would be pretty cool
They aren't giving any new abilities, they are just importing them from other expansions
@@Dinkslayer681 I know. Just a thought
I’m genuinely surprised incursions were released the way they were. It’s almost like it was complete negligence. Did they not test this out or play them for longer than an hour? It was even more concerning how quickly they adjusted the gold, but not the exp. It shows what they *really* care about. I enjoyed the event though I just don’t get how a company this sized released this so scuffed.
Phase 3 destroyed my fun in SoD. I have always enjoyed the journey but they have completely removed that in this phase with the world now being empty, except for incursions. Shame.
Right?
First it's Incursions being the best source for EXP and Gold. Then they nerf the gold, but the gold is STILL better than regular questing. Now they're nerfing the experience with it to... to what? Get you to go out into the world to now do things that still generate less money too? Like lol.
Don't even get me started on the runes for this phase either and the bullshit acquisition/exploitive player cancer going on there. This shit's not fun anymore.
I’m a little bit confused… Did you expect people not to be playing the SoD exclusive content during SoD?
Womp womp
Just seems cringe that I basically have to level with incursions because I need the rune so I have to do them anyway. So it’s pointless to not level at least most of the way with incursions
@@AtlantisSC No I expect people to play whatever they want and enjoy. I just said it destroyed "my fun".
I think incursions are awful the way they are and i dont know if they should be a thing at all even after adjustments have been made.
Biggest joke I've ever seen. "Hey let's let people level naked if they want, from 40-50. And without attacking anything, and give them hundreds of gold for doing it."...
@@ecamsan007 and significantly better items than in most dungeons
Phases 2 and 3 should be a reminder that SOD is nothing but a beta test for a potential future Classic+. I quit mid P2 when I ended up raid logging Gnomer. One can just hope they iron out and delete all the things that suck and end up with a product that is half decent. Right now, they have a lot of work to do. I think the devs are failing to realize the majority of Classic players are casual dad gamers and not sweaty streamer andies who want to min/max everything. It's easy to lose track because the latter group is far more vocal.
i exspect them to totaly build up disbelieve into their own project, and that SoD will be over after phase 4 launch
guys they said when announcing SOD that this is classic+ why u guys think they will bring out something new?? THIS is classic+ and it works as intended everything else is cope
I am already at raid logging on my main for p3, might level some alts for professions but a week for now I will likely be set to only do raid logging for the rest of p3.
@@Lanceloot91they bought the tin foil hats, now they feel like they gotta use them...
100%
Its not just a big mistake. It's a massive impact on the rest of season of discovery, no matter how you slice it. It will punish every player that did not get a hold of those early hours, watch the market.
Meh
For me, classic is about the journey and the social side of meeting people. Sod in general was already hurting that because of the raid meta at 25, and 40, but phase 3 completely killed it. I’m done with SoD.
me too
@@bohne8746 Idem , screw them
@@kennethflaming8606 yes! ahman had so much fun in P1 though. had high hopes for SoD
@@bohne8746 I had high hopes as well, but the retail mindset of instant gratification, high numbers now, and parsing ate classic.
@@bohne8746 P1 was very good, everyone out in the open, trying to find the runes, you had these south park lookin as groups trying to find the rare elite for their runes
Nightmare Incursions were a fireable level blunder imo. This was cstastrophic and completely crippled the phase. And it was an easy fix, just make each quest weekly only. Encourage players to do each one rather than skip inefficient ones. And still leave space for other leveling methods.
Edit: I do say crippled, not destroyed. The phase can still work. Gotta experience the rest of it.
P3 felt like a legit private server lol
I just said that. Literally felt like a knock off. Weird
No, private servers are better
That zf gy pserver change LMAO
Entire game just feels busted and rushed now. Leveling is a joke, dungeons are a joke, PvP remains trash. Hopefully this phase is short
My guild has had ~10-12 steady players throughout phase 1 and 2. After the launch of phase 3, only 1 person intends to play during this phase. This is anecdotally of course, but if this is a general pattern, expect Blizzard to start having a major panic attack within the next week.
Did people say why they are quitting>?
Says they’re quitting but not why. wow great input
@@LibertyPanacea big time investment with all the runes and stuff, not worth for half finished product
Well. P2 was dead guild here. Have to want what happens p3
@@ricardo8268 Yeah they wanted it to be alt friendly, but man the bullshit fuckin' loops you have to jump through as a Paladin/Priest/Warlock/Mage this phase alongside the nonsense the other classes have to go through?
What the actual fuck man lmao.
I did quit,Just straight up inflated the server and made the world feel empty because everyone just logs in to raid. Can't have anything nice
Yep, i don't even feel like playing because all my friends have 5x 50 characters with like 8000 gold. Now i have to put in 30x more work to catch up
@@waxman8469 that's straight up awful man, that's exactly why I quit. It's going to effect everything going forward aswell
Feeling the same here, they really screwed up this time
the game literally sucks lol these shit phases and slow play but always fuck up the releases and the sweats still take advantage lol
server roll back to last thursday is the only solution
id just quit playing SOD all together. because if they have to resort to this every time they fucked up im just having my time and effort completely wasted and id rather just go play something else :)
If ST becomes so hard its only doable for the hc community then that spells the end for sod.... my guild is casual moms and dads, and we dont have a chance in the world if it becomes too hard....
they're nerfing it alot. dont worry you guys will be able to clear it
The fact that they did not make it daily quests for the incursions, as intended, they basicly forced burned everyone and p3 will end far sooner, GG!
Oh shit let me see your 8/8 log?
we have a world first here!
P1 was really fun. Played the whole thing, got all classes to 25. P2 I quit after 2 gnomer clears, pvp was garbage 1 shots. P3 I quit after 40mins. Even worse than p2.
Yeah exactly, pvp is a joke. It’s so simple of you just add resilience. But they won’t do that
Same
All the People WHO are strong enough to hold Out Till P4 will be getting destroyed by another Big shitshow 😂
yeah lol exactly my playthrough, P1 4 chars 25, P2 2 gnomer full clears and left, it was just so annoying raid, and P3 I no lifed 2 lvl 50 but it felt so cheap and bad, that i am not in the mood to even try sunken temple.
Just came back I don't have a lot of time to play, they nerf the exp and gold for players with less time. Back too unsubbing after hitting level 30. The game is made for the 1% that play at launch then the game is just hotfixed to remove the other players from wanting to play. That's how I feel. I can play another game. They are just missing the boat with SOD.
Rewarding the people who sweated first day and nerfing gold reward was a blessing in disguise. Already teetering on the idea of quitting and that was the nail in the coffin. My life has been so much better taking a break second half of phase 2, so thanks blizz for making that decision a permanent one
Your life has been so much better? Geez. You must not have a lot going on then. Relax bro it’s just a game.
I'm with you. I stopped in phase 2. I will never be back after seeing they've already screwed up phase 3
The cringe ppl announcing that they are quiting a game are here, run bois
@@Muranight Its even more cringe when they haven't played since halfway through P2, but because WoW lives rent free in their minds they are even more obsessed with it than current players.
So grateful for the incursions. I was low on golf and able to get two toons to 50 for first lock out. #grateful.
I had 4 subs and 6 level 40s ready for P3, but this garbage was such a turn off, I unsubbed and won't play SoD anymore. I know some will say this is an over-reaction, but as Skyy said, it's a bigger blunder than any in recent memory including retail. Time to go touch grass I guess :)
Incursions turned me into Illidan..... because I gouged my eyes out doing them.
For real though I wish they would have just left the gold as is and not nerfed it. Those who missed out have little chance on making up the difference now.
We dont need to move on since every phase same shit happens think its ok to just stop playing and just allow that 1% of sweaters to have fun. This is not looking good at all
Phase 3 is fun but I hate broken stuff is only day one so the players with most time get ahead.. then they patch it. Leaving players who are slower or more behind even more behind
you know the mistakes at the launch of a phase are because the developers dont play the game. if they played the game they would have tested it and seen the problems by turning the quests in once.
100% they did not even do nightmare incursions. No fucking way
Yeah it was just way too rushed and untested. Not the biggest deal in the world tho, I'm still pretty excited to play and see where they take it. Hopefully in a better direction
It felt like incursions should have been a random daily quest.
The incursions not being instanced is completely braindead. Should have made them difficult with a party and able to get friendly on first lockout.
I guess the idea was to promote world pvp
This is the worst idea I've heard of.
You are absolutely right about nightmare incursions, I am glad that those words were spoken by you in a video. One more thing besides exp rewards are items. What I liked about SoD was that I had legs from dungeon 1, weapon from dungeon 2, wrists from a quest, chest from blacksmithing. Now I’ve got fully equipped with rep set, instantly at 50, without additional work, and so is everyone else. THAT’S BORING. Cheers, thanks for the video
It's not a good set from Emeralds
Incursions not having a lockout was the fatal flaw, I believe. I ran the incursions a few hours because it was by far the most efficient way to level and I'd want the rep anyway, but really had to do a reality check then - why am I doing this? It was boring as hell because all you'd do was running around talking to a few dudes. Overall it seems to me that this phase was somewhat rushed. I appreciate the "no PTR" approach, but it looks like there was also very few (if any) internal testing being done.
Power creep in SOD is too much, I brought this up in phase 1 and was kinda shouted down by the community. And here we are in P3 with the abilities, skills and passives from 3 different expansions worth of class design. It’s just too much too soon.
I agree. P2 pvp was absolute hot garbage.
I miss vanilla.
... Its still there...
Go play it lol. Literally classic era is untouched 😂
@@nzwj Classic is, but vanilla is gone forever :(
@@austinthomas7170 yeah because its classic era, not vanilla :(
"People with more time to play shouldn't get advantages over people don't play a lot" is the worst take in gaming history and just leads to time gating bs that kills mmo's.
i agree 100% why should you get rewarded for putting less time in?
Feels really bad missing out on that burst of gold with how high raid mat prices are right not. Makes me almost miss the bots.
And suddenly I no longer wish to do nightmare incusions now that it's been nerfed.
Like seriously, now everyone who went and got thousands of gold with little effort and those who didn't get the shit end of the stick thanks blizz
Yeah i gave up leveling/caring about the game once i realized my friends got tons of gold from incursions but i wasn't on for that time. Now the economy/ah is broken and i can't afford anything. Not worth playing, i missed the boat.
Totally agree.. It's such a mess that some ppl are now ahead with 5+ chars at level 50 with thousands of gold from the exploit, while the rest of us now have to level slower (as intended) and earn way less gold... Things like this shouldn't happen and is soooo damaging towards the health of the game and playerbase.
lol stop the cap, by the time they nerfed the gold you would of had one lvl 50... you could of played all weekend and earnt gold on the nerfed rates
Experience has not been changed at all. Only gold.
Bro, nobody is sitting on thousand and thousands of gold.
people had about 2 hours to benefit from this and that is taking into account that they had to learn how the event works from scratch (which means they actually have to read every quest in order to figure out what to do which will severely slow them).
so say every quest takes an average of 10 minutes and every q give you like 6g, that is a total of 72g over 2 hours even if we are generous and say the quest take 5 minutes a pop and provide 10g, its no more than 240g total.
Nowhere near the amounts you are talking about.
people are trolling you bro. don't believe everything you hear out of the mouth of a wow player.
@@SawsePapiplease think about fathers who can play like 2 hours a week…
@@ZugzugZugzugson It was about 8 hours. But I agree, very, very few people got anywhere close to 1k gold in that time. But some did hit 1k++.
peeps getting level 50 in 5 or 6 hours from nightmare incursion's....really...this isnt the classic spirit
Incursions should be DAILIES only! Not mind numbing repeatable quests. And also each lvl bracket should only allow up to a certain rep limit etc lvl 25 can only get to friendly, 40 to honored, and 50 to revered if they continue these to 60 to exalted.
Plus if we do get heroic dungeons “with once a day lock out” at 60 we’ll have plenty to do
They should have* been. Feels too late now.
@@valor2746 true story, we can only hope they change these and learn from this mistake if they add more at lvl 60 to be daily’s only
The "no loot" happend to us in Maraudon.
I got the Blackstone Ring some Runs after, but that bugged us out too
The price of consumables is just crazy rn. It is so sad for those ppl that didn’t make money from incursion event before the gold gain was nerfed.
The game is smelling more and more like retail its scary af
is a fake vanilla version who cares.
I'm absolutely dumbfounded at the complete lack of outrage when WOTLK's shutdown and forced migration to Cataclysm was announced
I'd be damned if even 2% of the original 2019 classic playerbase is the same as the current playerbase
@@archimedesbird3439het atleast we still got era right
@@Kyle-ys8ot
Speaking from a solo alt leveling quester's POV...:
Frankly, vanilla (consequentially era) is an unfinished janky mess. Hunters have a terrible deadzone and can't lay traps in combat, shamans can't recall their totems and warlocks' tank pet can't actually tank even with extreme micromanagement. TBC remedied many classes' crippling defects and WOTLK allowed every class and spec to have a "Super Saiyan" moment.
Early access to ground mounts actually incentivises players to ride around everywhere, as opposed to using teleports and flight masters
And between vanilla's "Decrepit old man swinging a rotten, snapped twig" and Cataclysm's "I can't die even if I want to", both TBC and WOTLK strike the perfect balance between danger and skill expression when it comes to solo PvE
I levelled all classes to 70 through solo questing and combining WOTLK's power level and accessibility with vanilla's zones & quest design and the Classic client's Quality of Life improvements is some of the best gaming I've ever partaken in. But Blizzard are actually taking that unique flavour away, forever.
Hard Classic raids are not what most want in classic. Classic is meant to be easier so you can chill with friends and have a good time. Wiping on Eranikus for 20hours as Alliance sucks a BIG D and I'm 10000% certain people will quit this week or next week. If I wanted very hard raids I would have played retail. The amount of consumes spent the last couple days trying to get a boss down cause you don't have a totem. Feels bad
the raids been nerfed significantly and will continue to be looked at
Did the retalilization process complete already?
The ashenvale daily turnin used to give experience, or gold at max level when it was weekly. It appears this has been changed. Once you're exalted theres no use touching the event, which makes me sad. Surprised they never added some form of currency or anything that drops off either the lieutenants or the general, or some form of bonus if your team has lieutenants up to encourage defending.
What's the point of having crafting specializations ... if you can get both?
I think I'll be checking out the incursions once I hit 50. I disabled the Delight Bonus so I can focus more on the outdoor quests :) Farming incursions might be how some people want to level, but I think a good chunk of players want to experience the full game.
Personally hate incursions as I prefer not to group with a bunch of people who don't speak, I go in solo but it's boring as anything.
I swear people think they are doing a race and forgot they are playing an immersive experience
Honor among thieves rogue rune not working as intended. Apparently, you need to log out between mobs to get it to work correctly. Hope a fix is coming.
My internet was out Thursday - Saturday. Came online and my entire guild was level 50. I knew people would get 50 day one. But I didn’t expect to see almost 100 players in my guild level 50, 56 hours after launch.
The more I play this phase the more I notice they didn't think through alot of the changes. For instance priests warlocks and mages have to find 4 lay lines for a rune and the only classes that can get the items to complete this are warlocks(through terrible RNG) and mages(through terrible RNG) so players are gold locking completing it for priests by charging them crazy amounts to get the rune on my server. As a casual player who can't farm gold all the time on top of the massive inflation this phase caused it's making me want to play less and less....
the Gnomeregan Raid was always accessible before lvl 40. I've been inviting lvl 38 priests since 2x weeks after elease due to it was a free market of healers. I even entered it at lvl 35 with my shaman during the second week.
i was already not as hyped for p3 as i was for p1 and p2. it seems the same to me as the other 2 phases. Level, pre bis gear, rep farm, raid log, then rinse and repeat for my alt
This is hilarious. Ruined it for the people enjoying the journey (increasing the gate keeping gap) and also ruined it for the sweats that couldn’t exploit it by no life rushing the launch.
Season of rush to the end of every phase. Rushed right to a joke raid too. No delay for raid this phase? Played yourselves. Sweats took the precedence just like in retail, will gain the same rep as retail soon enough.
yeah gatekeeping, gaslighting and stonewalling gap
there wasnt a delay for gnomer either. why should the better skilled players be punished because the casuals dont know how to level through 19 year old quests quickly? calling people "sweats" because they're better at the game than you are is a bit silly isnt it?
@@aaronneal7099 running dungeon spam (or now event spam) to level isn’t skill. I had no problem parsing bfd with purps and oranges. Ive raided mythic retail for the past 4 expansion. It’s not skill that is the issue. Sod is easy. It’s the community that ruins the fun with perspectives like yours and blizz enabled that with their addition of an event that trivialized leveling and gold making. Then realized that was the case and immediately went to change it.
They are sweats because they rush to the end of a phase to partake in the only portion of content they want to and then cry about raid logging until the next raid. They are sweats because you think skill in “a 19 year old game” is actually a factor in the real issue here. Blizz shouldn’t cater to the sweats and they don’t have to cater to the absolute bottom of the barrel either. They should make a fun experience and people who want to only do endgame content over and over should go play retail. The only difference at this point is “old” content gets released faster so the sweats don’t fully quit from boredom that they created for themselves.
If I was still trying to seek a challenge I would definitely not be playing wow for it.
I’d have no problem leveling and enjoying it if I knew the community wasn’t as toxic as it is. I stopped in phase 2 because of how toxic guilds were to other players but act normal to someone who can easily parse like myself. It’s pathetic and only reflects how unaware wow sweats are.
everybody still remembers that this Season of Discovery is a beta test, right? just checking :)
Correct. And I’ve also noticed that the blue posts are starting to use the word ‘experiment’ more and more.
The moment everyone knew about the exploit, wpvp stopped instantly. That should tell you how good the gold, xp, and rep was for everyone there in Ashenvale. I also hit 50 in sub 24 hours from launch because of the xp abuse from the incursions.
I mean you can't really call it an exploit or xp abuse because everything was laid out the way they wanted it to launch. It's not the players fault that the devs didn't realize that once you figure out the VERY simple pattern for the incursions that you would level super fast and make insane amounts of gold. Just goes to show there's no testing going on at all.
I did 6-7 hours straight 40-50 and made 450 gold, its a good amount but not as much as people make it out to be. In phase 2 i made 100 gold in the same amount of time.
i like your take on it bro, even tho i missed out again, i’m still gonna have fun.
With nightmare incursions being a PvE event, it is unplayable with ashenvale being in a pvp zone. Horde and Ali having the same quest turn in spot it terrible.
The increased leveling speed in the middle of phase 2 was the sign of this being season of retail to come. Was t worried about that change as much as I was about all the crap that was sure to come.
Have they made any official comments on people who have had their mail AH and trading locked? I keep hearing that some people have been locked from using all of those. That all seems to be why loot isn't dropping. Had a group with a restricted person as lead and the boss didn't drop anything. We swapped leaders and it fixed it next time
I got kicked from my guild. Probably shouldn't of referred to them as 'Instant 50s'. Gets them riled up knowing they took the easy path. The lone jedi surrounded by 999 sith. Not a slywalker, dinna end well :)
There has also been a glitch that has blocked out a lot of users from being able to trade, use auction house, and send mail. Might be worth having a follow up on, maybe if someone makes a big enough stink about it it might be fixed
It was hell worse than frist launch of Burning Crusade ....
I think the nightmare incursions there was nothing wrong. I preferred that shit way more than sitting there mind numbingly spamming a dungeon over and over and over again, oh and btw there is a glitch to go past the 5 dungeon lockout and they still haven't fixed it. so really your two choices are run the same dungeon over and over and over and over again or do the nightmare incursions which were actually fun
Comeback kids the only streamer giving the right gold numbers - hearing so many people say thousands. Thanks for reporting truth my guy!
People who made thousands were doing the level 50 ones in felwood and hinterlands before the gold was nerfed
@@TryItWithRanch yea that would be a very small percentile of people so not worth saying it or making it sound like it was everyone because 98 percent of players didn’t. That top 2 percent was already richer than everyone else
@@stevo6178 yep I agree with you.
100% made almost 2k before they got nerfed. Doing just lvl 40s
I feel like I’m alone in thinking they have ruined SoD with runes - I was so excited for a more of a classic plus type game, new content, classic feel…
they should nerf the hell out of sunken temple people can experience raids without being completly cut out from raids becus you dont have 99 parses at start of the phase its not retail it dont need to be soo gatekepped soo hard
Idk why they didn’t make it fun and easy and 10 man. We have hard versions of wow. Tf are they doing
Gatekeeping sweaty ppl ruin the whole experience tbh what can you expect look at retail
al of clasic was eazy simple anybody could get it and if you got 60 you could raid with any comp clear anything it was a verry eazy no gatekeeping once people relized its fun just enjoied the game and played with people and that was great experience nobody wants this shit it was for casuals not swety losoeres with no life why would you want to play wow clear content get items and go pvp thats what evrybody wants in wow
The try hard meta shit yeah, annoying as fuck
I did ST for the first time today and it wasn’t hard at all..
Savage gladiator chain is level 52 anyway, have to be super sweaty to want to farm out that item a few days after the new phase.
Definitely agree that it'd be better if incursions were a daily quest thing or something like that !! it's horrible (having) to spam it over and over on all chars, just to make it before the nerf hits......................
I was there from minute one. Hated it because horde and alliance shared the same npcs and alliance was griefing really hard. When i noticed how much gold i was doing i realized they've made a mistake, cause i had spent the last 10 days farming gold by crafting stuff, walking around, mining, pvping, then suddenly all that effort looked frivolous.
As one of the guys who took advantage of the incursions, sure it felt great to do, but with that being said in hindsight; they should have made the nightmare incursions a daily, kept the gold and experience reward the same and made all quests available from the start, not pick up letters after completion, that way when you do all of the quests (including buying the mats from the gathering quests) you get 1-2 levels out of it a day, so for the casuals it’s a quicker pace for them to keep up and the more hardcore gamers like us can go and dungeon spam or world quest if we want to do anything further than that. This can also be lucrative for the casual gamer as well with GDKPs being banned in SoD to keep up with the rate of inflation with an easy to get money maker rather than having to spend hours upon hours to farm mats that either sell for Pennies on the dollar or to only make a few of the expensive items/consumables/mats that wouldn’t be worth the effort to reward scale for a casual gamer.
I was one of the ones who went in to do the incursions right at launch. Within 8 hours, I was 50 on my hunter and had obtained close to $800 gold in quest rewards. I would love to see them add the incursions as Daily quests when you reach max level. With decent gold for completing them. Not everyone wants to farm, so another way to make gold would be great.
how about a middle point agrement and put a deminishing return with a 24h reset on the incursion quests?
pretty sure i remember not getting loot from landslide even all the way back in vanilla on occasion
Everyone i know irl that played sod quit.
Yep 😢
Incursion leveling being fast was fine but getting gold was not so good. I think its current values are perfect. I have 3 toons at 50 now with 1 more to go. I like this being alt friendly. I think your take of lockouts is terrible.
Still having fun when im on. I just havnt made it on as much lately.
I also think there lies an issue with them splitting resources and having the SoD developers work on Cata classic too...
Quit in phase 2. Writing was on the wall.
These devs can't handle this responsibility. The imbalance, lack of tuning, disregard for pvp...no ty
Revealed itself to be a bad game because of design philosophy. Going to disagree with your "disregard their mistakes" mindset. The phase 2 and 3 blunders are FOR SURE reason enough to not play SoD. They forever have ruined the game. There is no going back, economically now.
I only got like 40 to 66 silver per level 40 nightmare incursion quest.
Is this bugged? I think im missing out on the 300% gold increase...
11:08 definitely not wrong about the nightmare incursions blunder. I had several guildies who were 50 and made 800 gold by time I got off work and could log on. I definitely feel behind as far as the gold goes, the exp is still good enough to easily hit 50 in no time.
Ironically i feel like i have been participating with and meeting more people than ever before in SoD. Partying for dungeons and incursions, a lot of downtime due to the nature of things, some cool new quest chains like Wild Gods to do with a couple friends. Also it's fun figuring out what the hell the deal is. Offerings are a positive thing, despite the community already minmaxing it. Would like to see the dungeon rewards expanded on and perhaps require full runs so it doesn't become a mini game.
It might be a good idea to make it so you have to do every individual incursion quest before being able to do the same one again . But it would be really annoying fighting for mob tags and turn it into a war zone out of competition
Honestly people are just made to decide to dungeon grind over incursions. Missed out on gold and XP. But really I thought it was about the journey. People just made they "fell behind"
Blizzard just needs to remove Incursions, immediately.
Even if they did I am still done with wow. The damage is already done. The fact they even thought it would be a good idea to release the incursions is enough of a reason to never play this game again.
Well, it was fun while it lasted
The broken Incursions were literally the best thing they have done in SOD. Leveling has been an absolute drag and I have abandoned a bunch of toons because I don't want to do the same old classic quests again, and again. It has been some the most fun I have had in SOD, and i hope something similar happens to get to 60.
Locks kinda got shafted this phase. Lake of fire got nerfed to uselessness, immo aura and ua do very little damage, and felguard is by far worse than your imp for every build and that's just sad. We got 1 good rune this phase outside of crit dots and backdraft makes us go oom so fast
I’m having a good time but I don’t wanna go too hard because idk if sod is sticking around if our characters will go to “wow +”
It really seems like they're not testing these new things that they're putting in. Cause I feel like alot of these things they can fix it before it goes live
do we have up date for ppl who got restriced to AH and mail ?
If incursions gave the nerfed gold amount on launch it would have been perfect and I was very happy to reach 50 in a single morning. Who still likes to do the same quests we been doing for the last 20 years...
idc about leveling in sod, nerfing nightmares is uselss imo. If u wanna level for fun and real turn off ur delight and let other people level asap. Cuz it's sod. Who cares, I leveld over 40 characters in 18 years and i seriously don't care about the journey between 1 to max current level.
Blizzard Dev's were doing so well,. almost like they got cocky and hit the gas and failed to pay attention to the road and now then need to stop, fix the car and take it a little slower and be more careful,.. I have loved SoD,.. I really hope they recover this..
Here's my fix for SOD. Make dungeons have a max number of resets of 3. That means you can only do the same dungeons 3 times in a day. That way you can spam dungeons somewhat, but you need to switch it up. Put lockouts on all non-kill quests in Incursions. This will increase activity in normal questing.
Today I did Mara princess runs in a 10 man raid group and broke the dungeon lock timer by simply logging in and out. There's alot more going on in the game than people leveling fast.
why the hell are y’all 10 man raiding .. princess????
Personally I loved the ease of being to level up so quickly, and with the large influx of gold it allowed me to do the far more enjoyable parts of the game, such as leveling professions, gearing up alts and doing pvp. I did t have to waste a bunch of my limited time doing quests that don’t even reward gold. I understand what you’re saying about diverting attention away from other areas away from the game, but this enables us to play in groups and quickly progress to the meaningful parts of the game. I want to Raid and PVP, not spend dozens of hours of running around In circles In the desert killing hundreds of mobs that won’t drop the damn quest item!
It's a seasonal game there should be no grind to level. The easier it is to level the more content people can do. Think of everything there is to do in the 2 months we are given. Leveling should not take up most of that time. Especially since most people have multiple characters. Professions alone are going to occupy most of my time.