Incursions is like being put in a hamster wheel and being fed cocaine everytime the wheel turns a full cycle. Any dignity i still held is crushed after a few rounds of the loop.
then dont do it i really dont get everyone shitting all over it when they can just not participate in it and level their own way it's not like u need time to get to 50 anyhow with all these endless xp boosts that arent even needed in the first place
@@t9t9t9t9t9 its not about that at all, they should just make it that u dont get gold just rep after u are 50 and thats it people will not spam it and it can still be used as way to lvl if some1 wants little faster but more boring why to lvl. but over all state of game as they are atm its not good u cant deny it
@@t9t9t9t9t9 yeah he should go play a MMO alone and do quests, or grind instances with every thing of value hard reserved, dont even bother playing this new content you are paying for
You know what was oddly enough some of the best content for me in p3? Aside from the week one pug of ST that me and my homies had to put together and actually think about, it was definitely trying to make it to the grim guzzler pre nerf to get my paladin rune. That shit was some genuinely challenging content
That particular survey went out months ago during Phase 2. You may have gotten it but didn't realize it. They go into my junk and spam email folders all the time since they contain links to survey websites. Gmail thinks they're spam emails.
YES. Feels extremely shitty having to do it again, and it also sucks that some of the runes don't actually have a level req; so you COULD get it at level 1, but you'll need someone willing to help. So it feels terrible when you are technically able to get a rune way earlier but you rely on others to help. So at least some of those problems would be solved with account-wide rune collection.
Why can’t they just make incursions a daily/weekly thing? I’m not playing classic wow to run around and repeat the same quests, im playing classic to play classic!
I will start with saying I agree. Having said that, I think they REALLY wanted to remove the dungeon grind and reset meta and just went overboard by providing an incursion grind meta that was soulless, boring, and had terrible economic inflation results. I commend them a little bit for having turned more old open world content into new-ish content, but it just never felt good. Hopefully we get a huge rework, or at least something else to do instead, going 50-60.
The grind from 40-50 is like... 5 hours. I'm sure you've wasted more time doing worse things. It's so wild to me that people complain about incursions when all of the old leveling options still exist. Go do dungeon runs, go do quests, go do mob grinds. This is like going to the grocery store and finding out that there's bananas, oranges and apples, which you like, but then there's kiwi that's cheaper, and you're mad that the things you like aren't that price. Just buy the thing you like and ignore the kiwi.
@@jasonhill8191 Yeah I don’t think incursion leveling is really an issue. With the XP buffs dungeon grinding is still super fast and can get you some pre-bis gear along the way. The problem with incursions imo has more to do with the economy. Incursion farms are a kind of dumb way to get gold that pretty much just prints money out of nowhere, causing a lot of inflation.
I love Solo content and more open world stuff so I hope they continue to add Solo type content that gives end game gear. I'm not a fan of Dungeons or Raiding. If I have too want to do a Dungeon and Raid and be finished with them rather quickly so I don't have to do them again. I think doing Dungeons or Raids every week is just boring. One reason why I hate M+ in Retail it's like when are we done with stupid dungeons lol.
For real man. Just give 2h two imbuements to be competitive with dw since it gets two. That or give 2h lava lash also. I swear it's intentional that 2h gets no support except for one afterthought rune
Heal and dmg reduction for pvp doesn't fix anything just causes more issues for balancing in the future. For example warlocks dmg and healing are linked together. Drain life heals by doing damage so by nerfing damage and healing not only does my dmg get absolutely tanked so does my survivability. Stop using bandaid fixes and fix the busted classes.
For someone who has Mythic raided in dragonflight and multi season mythic+ master w/e it's called. In SoD I really don't want heroic dungeons or any really hard content. Things should be easy, pug friendly, fun and ALT friendly
I wouldn't mind seeing a harder difficulty content as long as it doesn't cannibalize other parts of the game. I also just don't want heroic or mythic+ because I want to see new content and I think multiple difficulties of the same content is bad and lazy for mmorpgs For example, a 10 man raid in Kara crypts or timbermaw that gets harder every phase. The raid is a wave rush essentially. See how long until your group wipes. Each healer class can only res once. Once everyone dies your locked out for the week and get rewarded a currency by number of waves survived or a chest of loot unlocks for number of waves. Rough idea at top of my head
4 it to be alt friendly rep and rank would have to be acount wide. You got you can do st with mumtible alts but to grind rank 7 and rep on a fresh char is to mutch 4 me. Tbo the classic ranking and rep system needs a times 10 modifier at least on those seasonal sod realms.
As someone who has raided the hard stuff, why does the existence of optional hard stuff make the game worse for those that want it? I retyped this a few times because it just comes off as condescending, but it truly isn't meant to. Content that doesn't interest me I simply don't spend time doing. Throw cosmetics and mounts at people for clearing the hard stuff and don't lock top end gear to it and you have something other than speed runs for people that want a challenge.
Dude 100% like play other games for a bit I never understood the people that play one game and then when there is nothing to do they bitch at the developers
I'm not burnt out, it's just not fun for majority of players. No new pvp, extremely unbalanced pvp, raid gear is minor upgrades, like 3 dungeons that you skip as much as possible anyway, incursions are just boring and op. Literally nothing to do but raidlog. There's simply not enough devs. Fired up retail first time since DF launch and been having fun. So it's not that I'm burnt out.
Made STV much harder to get blood. Making it much more of a grind to get STV gear. I was basically getting half the blood I normally would. So maybe a little tweak to that reduce prices or give more blood per kill. So people that don’t care for pvp so much don’t have to grind out so much to get their gear. Especially now with dual spec and people having to grind out 2 pieces of gear. Hunters come to mind with both weapons being 25 coin. Other than that it did feel much better in battlegrounds. But agree it could use some slight tweak
You threw me off on the last couple vids. You basically say in almost one breath how bad incursions were and you leveled up in 20 minutes, then go on to say how Blizzard needs to make leveling alts easier and you barely have 2 level capped toons?? Personally I love the incursions(cow level?), granted I have more time than the average player, but being able to power level a toon from 40-50 in 4-5 hours was like a breath of fresh air compared to Phase 2 where I left 5 toons at 25 basically. Also I hear you asking for more NEW content quite often, like heroic dungeons or mythic....not me personally, I'll agree the 20 mans killed a lot of guilds, but because they got comfy with their clique of friends and didn't involve others is what killed most guilds (imo) possibility of doing a 20 man. 10 people geared in full Gnomer loadouts and the rest of the guild still wearing Scarlet Monastery stuff is a bad look. gotta mix in more than just your guys alts. Sorry for the rant and although I have fully turned on you in this comment, I do enjoy your vids, please keep up the good content! Peace!
Can we have real answers about them screwing over servers. Leave the servers alone! They closed Chaos bolt, now they are doing the same to Lava Lash and offering garbage CS and the Wild Growth. Its like they want people too quit.. They say "the Lava Lash roleplay ruleset realm isn’t where we want it to be", I thought SoD was about listening to the players, WE DO NOT WANT THIS. Nobody wants to be on your mega servers. This is complete BS. Plz we want real answer from the devs and team
Whars happening with Lava Lash? The server development are chasing people into one mega server for PVE and PVP. It's kind of disheartening. I was from Chaos Bolt to Lava Lash now they are closing Lava Lash and opening up Xfers to Wild Growth.
No heroic +.... it just turns seasional and I freakin hate that... I play classic to feel like im getting stronger and after a while we can solo alot of content... heroic + / titan just makes it feels like it going to become season based (patch based) NOT FUN
The social aspect of wow (specifically via guilds) has always been the strongest motivating factor for meaningful engagement and preventing burnout personally for me
Herioc dungeons were never challenging or fun, everyone facerolled them just like normal dungeons. Development time should be spent on creating all new content, not doing the same dungeons with a little more health and damage and slapping a herioc sticker on it. This idea is so bad, please stop pushing it endlessly and come up with something with an ounce of creativity.
My guy what is it??? 2:51 you say you "do not not love the idea of nerfing runes or abilities of other specs that they are using in that situation because its flat out stronger why not buff the other ones" then 14:52 "they have to do something to nerf mutilate and buff sabre slash & bs builds.
Cant play with friends, im a night shift worker. When im awake with free time i have responsibilities so my nights off i play solo and lost desire to play sod.
Feel like it would be cool to add new 5man instances. Not full dungeon length but a few difficult trash mobs requiring CC and a boss. Spread across multiple zones and maybe change up the mobs & boss occasionally. Was hoping that’s what Incursions would be
Warrior Rune Idea-> Arms Tanking: You can use rend and overpower in Defensive stance (or get extra aggro in battlestance), get parry through str or something, maybe some sort of self healing (dk'ish). Make it similar to a Bear.
Polling system would be amazing, OSRS does it, has irs good and bad moments but the idea exists. Would have to be an in game thing tho, doing it on Twitter means a large portion of the game wouldn't get to vote, more people don't follow content on YT, Twitter, etc than follow it. Retail has shown that over the years
I want to point out that at least for me, seeing a new rune that'd speed up and make my leveling more fun but it's in a lvl 40-50 zone is annoying. A level 1 hunter can for example get the rune in Tanaris and Feralas IF they have someone to help them. The runes (or most) have no level requirement, and it makes me demotivated knowing that I could get them but can't because nobody is willing to help and/or I have no friends playing. Make the runes either have several spots to get them for various level characters OR make the runes actually have a level requirement. It kind of feels like you're carrying 100 pounds when you have the option to carry 10, does that make sense? Like.. you could get the rune and have more fun with that rune, but without being at that zones level; you will not be able to unless you get help. It kind of sucks balls for solo players or those who don't have friends playing. You can kind of compare it to leveling with Incursions (so with the rune) VS picking the longer road of questing in the open world (without the rune). I can't be the only one feeling bad about it.
@@keelhld94 Saying it's an MMO feels like such a weak argument imo. I enjoy playing solo, but also seeing others in the world running around. I'd actually enjoy WoW more if it was like runescape where you can do most if not everything solo. I also highly doubt many people in a guild would be willing to help me get all the runes I wanted whenever I want them. I had to resort to playing 2 WoW accounts (alt+tabbing) to help myself because nobody else would. I've stopped playing for now though, I'm kinda tired of it.
@@keelhld94 Bruh. Of course I dont fucking play endgame solo, but for leveling I prefer Solo if possible. All I am saying is that I do not like that some runes req lvl 1 but are in lvl 40+ zones..
If shamans are not #1 in pve and pvp its suddenly a huge problem and they get buffs. It really feels like the devs are buffing their favorite classes and leaving the rest in the dust.
@@Blue.DieselFeral cats haven’t been touched since the beginning of phase 2 and it was a shitty duration quality of life buff on an ability that does 10% of your damage
tbf shams were pretty low tier for the last 20 yrs in classic lol...and they still arent top tier in anything atm. Enh was top dps last phase, which lasted less than 2 months
good news; incursions are designed just for people like you. now hop on that treat mill and enjoy your easy, pug friendly alt friendly content. newsflash: you can't have easy, pug friendly, alt friendly content which is fun, because if its fun it means its challenging. pick one.
Swipe for cat rune. Also: being able to eat, drink, pop potions without going out form. ‘Cause right now it’s ridiculous that you drink till full mana in base form only to lose a big chunk of your mana again when you shift back to cat/bear. And maybe a new form like the snake form from Druids of the claw, applying poisons to the target (but instead of cat, you’d have to chose which you use by applying the rune)
2:39 - Really? Most melee hunters are BM and the damage that those pets do within a fight are absolutely disgusting, and lets not talk about in PvP... I think this is a pretty obvious and easy change to do so you don't hurt the fun of melee hunter but still cap it off. You also get the benefit of reducing the damage a pet does in Beastial Wrath, which we can all admit is about as brain-dead and frustrating as anything in PvP. A player killing you with one button, not playing the game, and basically no counter play. Yikes.
@@TheComebackKids No no no. BM was always obnoxious, but its easily become the worst and most obnoxious because of how much damage we do now, AND that pets scale with stats. BM and Beastial Wrath got a disgusting buff compared to its Era counterpart, relative to almost every other Era ability. The fact that a non-player character that can be controlled with 1 button can delete you in 5 seconds flat is about as bad game design as ANYTHING can get, especially in PvP.
Please please please PLEASE seperate Affliction from Destruction Warlocks. I want to see how they are doing against each other Also I find Invocation nice in Arathi Basin when you can sit back in the back throwing out dots. It gives you a nice bit of instant damage potential
Agreed. Still haven't bothered getting the Despair rune for my priest. Initial drop rates were ass, then the community started demanding bulk gold charges for group invites so I just said fuck it.
@@hotlikesauce Oh for real? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info fam! Been swamped with work the last 3 weeks so I haven't been able to keep up with everything since phase launch.
yeah day 1 sunken temple was actually a first time challenge in SoD, after they nerfed it down in the ground because everyone was crying about it it got so easy and just downright lame like gnomeregan and bfd they should have a difficult optional raiding scene for players that actually want to take time to clear stuff and not just facepalm through it in 30 mins every few days
@@SimonRobeyns Agree. I really don't understand the approach of nerfing raids after they've been released, like several weeks into a season, cuz i mean, players get better and better gear as time goes by, so the raid gets easier and easier, and then they also nerf it?? It just doesn't make sense in my head.
I quit SOD mainly because of massive class imbalance. The whole point was supposed to be to shake up the meta, make other spec viable, etc. But melee classes are even more dominant than they are in classic. There isn't a single enchant in the game from the enchanting profession that increases a casters DMG. (The fraction of crit you get from the couple of int enchant is so minor it's not even worth mentioning.). Melee however can get direct damage boosts from every single enchant slot. Plus whetstones plus they have more than twice the consumables that benefit them. The gear in ST is also much more of an upgrade in general for melee than it is for casters. The dagger that drops in ST has only 1sp more than the dagger from gnomer. It's a joke. Also 20man raiding kills the casual and fun atmosphere. First off you can have a closer relationship with 10 people than you can with 20, and the experience feels much more interactive. With class variety, there is way fewer times 2 people need the same piece of gear which means every person going into the raid will more than likely get something every time. Also you can't have 20 people talking casually over coms like you can with 10 people without people talking over and interrupting each other, so you have to go through the whole raid with cleared coms and just feel like a brick in the wall, it takes the fun and engaging element out of the experience. Tldr: sod sucks because of massive class Imbalance, loot imbalance, and 20 man raids
Yeah im super disappointed as a caster spriest in phase 3, I raid log so all I care about is parsing and loot. But with this underwhelming upgrades in phase 3, the loot is now a non factor until phase 4. paying $15 a month to play once a week, is a ripoff and feel im gettin milked until phase 4. Oh well ill play other better pvp games in meantime and continue to raid log for the pve raids The epic caster dagger dropped and I couldnt even get excited knowing I have the gnomer dagger and it ended up going to a new person with a Scarlet monastery dagger zzz
Recently found a new guild as my old guild all transferred off to a PVE server. 100% agree that playing with others is the way to go. Making impromptu groups to clear out an instant portal that's being camped has been great for passing the time.
i have 58 days played and all ive discovered is that blizzard are just as lazy as they always have been, where are the new abilities, where are the new dungeons, new raids, new anything?
Theres 3 news raids so far, countless new abilities, new rotations, new profession items, new viable specs, new ways to level, new pvp events, new pvp rewards...just quit the game if you look at it through a delusional doomer's lense.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 most sane and logical blizzard slop enjoyer, no thank you im allowed to have an opinion. New raids that are based off of existing content, new abilities that are based off of existing content, new items that are models of existing content, is it really so much to ask for actual new content when we pay 15$ a month for this?
class changes / tunining "looking at mages in pvp" feel like the pvp part of mages they legit cant do much anymore in phase3 legit fully powercreeped out of the game see Mages fireblast compare to Warlock´s searing pain (in metaform) as a really good comparsion how much mages has being powercreeped out of the game Fireblast: 8sec. cooldown, 500dmg, 20yd, on a NOT tanky class vs. Metaform lock: 0 sec. casttime/cooldown, 500dmg, 30yd, on a tanky class (was alteady a issue in phase1 but we are at phase3 and it gotten more and more worse and the only class tuning mages has gotten is to nerf PVE stuff but ending up putting mages in pvp in a wheelchair) and there is so many examples on this in all classes compare to mages now pvp sod mages feels like you are setting in a wheelchair without arms or legs while everyone else has gotten ironman suits to theirs stuff and this damage reduction that happen shows it even more : a mage could not kill a other mage that was fully afk before going oom we have CCs but nothing to really follow it up with after hit a CC x1 Spriest Dot tick or 2 does "that is instant casted" btw does as much damage as mage´s 2.5-3.5 sec. cast time stuff where they have to stand still and dont move Mages is a full out PVE class now and even there they kinda also getting powercreeped out almost meanwhile Shamans just keep getting buffs and is fully broken in PVP and making ally fully quit battlegrounds while battlegrounds is +5 shamans who is 1-2 shotting everyone while they have too many utilities compare to legit everyone else and they STILL getting buffed only becuase of a PVE thing like what happen in phase1 with boomkin: they was bad in PVE so now it ended up premade WSG groups with 9 boomkins and 1 priest for heals just 1shotting all and winning all the time atleast they was not faction exclusive paladin/shamans is on paper THE worse class to be broken in PVP becuase it WILL complety break the game´s faction balance and make people reroll the other faction or quit a server so you see the faction with the broken class out number the other faction and they keep still buffing shamans buffing shamans right now(even if a spec is underpowered in PVE) is legit the worst thing they can do right now becuase of shamans is broken enough people is just tier whoring class and picking whats meta and complety breaking the faction balancing and making ally players quit that is also breaking the faction balancing this is why i dont let my wow sub renew Right now the class balance is a complety joke this is the worst balance i ever have seeing in any kind of PVP like games ever: fighting games, mobas & etc. a class that is a glass canon but they forgot the canon part: mages in pvp RN, shamans that can just do about everything right now in pvp really unplayable right now
Great video as always! I think Two-Handed enhancement shamans need some love. Would especially like to see a “rune” that gives windfury weapon a aoe damage effect when wielding a two-handed weapon! Or maybe just nerf duel-wield a little bit and buff Two-handed :/
Sounds like a good idea but when you are in a gear check all the time and needing about 10 buffs to even be considered to go on the raid , its silly ! so No think its a shit idea , change the world culture before adding this
lol like why care? PvP is just STV spam no comms, dying by the day and BG's are inexistant due to stv event and ashenvale welfare. Only 'pvprs' now are randoms fightin mid in wsg. The 'solo' useless player wants to queue 30 min at the end of the day and whom blizz catered to by killing premades. It seems they're killing RBGs on retail as well, this is the future of wow.
So shaman gets more buffs as usual, and they are actually creative buffs? (not saying ele didnt need help in PVE but come on) , yet they just gave shadow a flat 10% and we are still painfully bottom of the barrel? and I love the warlock rune bug fixes being paraded as balancing changes lmao. These devs are incompetent or way to overstretched working on Cata as well. Probably both.
Heroic dungeons next phase would be a mistake, they need to wait until the phase AFTER level 60 is introduced. Give us a reason to go BACK into those dungeons after we spent a phase farm g them for prebis etc
you know why heroics won't happen? because more than half the playerbase are casual scum who don't play the game regularly and instead cry for nerfs and buffs on the forums - they are still struggling even on content that isn't even relevant anymore (gnomer) and they hate the idea that the good players might get access to loot they can't get access to because harder raids mean they won't get carried as easily... you already see it in ST, now that the tutorial mode / baby raid scene is coming to an end, they are fuming because they can't even beat ST... now imagine ST heroic; they would never get in... and thus never get ez bis, and thats when "gatekeeping" starts being a "problem" again.
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I don't have enough time to play more than 2 hours a day if that which i still feel like is a lot to someone with a life.. The leveling rates and difficult to obtain runes are extremely discouraging... Even with the 100%+ it still takes a verryy long time. It doesnt even feel like classic at all anymore so might as well boost rates a little more? 200% would be pretty nice xDDD
Absolutely, They already leaned this the last time they turned on the 20% damage reduction. it was horrible, now they doubled it and expected a different result for some reason. They need to learn thats the problem. 20% damage and healing reduction should do the job. All we need is a tiny bit longer fights, but they seem to struggle with this
As someone who plays rogue in SoD I say; don't nerf mutilate, instead buff saber slash properly instead of that 5 stack garbage, or buff hemo. I enjoy the current mutilate playstyle and I don't really see any need for nerfs, rather som love for the class instead.
why do they keep nerfing hunters man, just nerf warriors sometimes they've been topping for a decade or so why can't us hunters have something nice sometime. glad i gave up my sub already so i can wait for the next phase
Yeah, kept fighting teams loaded with priests and shammy's in BG's during the weekend. Was getting like half the honor i normally get in a BG since no one would die lol. There def needs to be a nerf to healing if there's going to be one for damage. I think eventually it needs to be more nuanced than a flat % across the board.
Bro pls dont talk about nerfing rogues when you dont much about the class, leave mutilate alone and just adjustments to make other specs competitive, also, Saber slash is very competitive as it is now since the buff
Been having fun with pvp but hard to take it seriously sometimes when you fight a decent warlock who can out heal all your dmg apply dots and just afk to make ramen
Why nurf hunters again! They are far behind warriors and behind rogues in dps! Why they hate for hunters from blizzard! We dont scale! Hunters are doomed next season.
The best way to fix that pvp mess is simple.Blizz must make DR for every class/spec individual % or perfect variant will be DR for every Spell or ability which dmg is broken or both variants.So balansing in pve and pvp will be very ez.For example u give 30% flat dmg buff on SP and u make individual dr for it -30% flat dmg in pvp or just - 30% DR on devour pleg and mind blast..That will make pvp balancing super ez ,fluid and acurate.After every buff in pve u can fix the negative impact in pvp instant.Аnd the wolf full and the lamb whole.Hope blizz make that change and stop being lazy.
You’re delusional if you think shamans are fine or even slightly OP in PVP. They are absolutely disgustingly overpowered. Most BGs I do have at least 4-5 shamans PER battleground. I’ve been in a few BGs that had 11-14 shamans personally, and have heard of people getting a full 15 shaman group. Purge, totems for literally everything, insane burst, tanky, AND good healing AND no mana problems. Get out of here.
I WANT HC DUNGENS WITH TOKENS! 5-10 man dungen/raid encounter where u have to use cc's and be smart is my favorite part of wow. And vanilla/tbc/sod are by far the best versions of wow ever. I want this. Not the clusterf that fetail was when i last played it were everything is just a billion of trash and aoe. Heroics in tbc was perfect!
The first thing everyone has to understand is that .. its not a question of time or effort, all the tweaking is question of TEAM, they have a very small team. SOD is a side project and 90% of the decision they make ...isn't well thought of. ST bosses having 4 million hp .... runes that are wayyyy to over powered in combo with other runes ... That kind of calibration is done by players testing it in Real time. The DEV said clearly SOD wont have any BETA ... that means ..we are the beta testers. Most of the changes are insane ...warrior shield bash doing 1500 dmg , boomkins doing 2400 starfires ... arcane mages doing 3k , shamans doing back to back 1.5 to 2k Damage, shadow priest doing 700 dmg per dot tick , mele hunters out dpsing warriors in PVP ,etc etc... The big issue is players thinking blizzard is full on this SOD project and every decision is tested and balanced. None of it is ...because they have a very small team to test these WOW options.
5 man h eroic content would be great. the game is really missing content you can do on the regular with friends. Everyone is solo farming and raid logging and the game has never felt less like an mmo. 5 man dungeons that you actually fully clear would be fantastic. On another note, I think the pvp change was ok, but 50% was way to too much. something more around 25% would make more sense. I also believe that pvp has next to nothing for rewards, BG token turn ins (3) should grant gold anywhere from 5-10. This way pvp wins in BATTLEGROUNDS will feel the most rewarding. STV event is pointless and world pvp is just a huge bag of grief. Instead of focusing on these weird world pvp things, make battlegrounds great again and provide proper rewards and save everyone the headache
Really, buffing DMG is not how you solve the PvP/PvE imbalances. Shamans did not need more spellpower. Rogues don't need buff to their other strikes. A perfect example of good design is classic era fury warrior Vs arms warrior. Arms bring about bigger numbers and burst while fury is "loading up" their DMG by hitting and slashin until all procs are activated and the DMG stays consistent. Right now the balancing is done by simply buff the DMG of the bursty PvP specs which in turn destroys the PvP. I'm realising more and more that classic era truly is the greatest version of wow.
Like one month ago: "We gotta be realistic with expectations and give the SoD some props" This video: "We need better runes! Heroic dungeons! Fix incursions!" Etc Idk I feel like this video has huge doomer vibes. Maybe it's just good layering, but wildgrowth is always still popping. I have no issues looking for groups or doing activities at any level. Also yeah incursions are boring, but it's also given me the ability to get every class to 50 (besides pally cuz horde) and it's been a blast figuring out the play styles, getting gear and learning/searching for the new runes. If you burn out, go play a different game and take a break. For me, I can't put the game down this phase, even when redoing content between 8 level 50's.
The idea about incursion was rly good just poorly made i would say... But Heroic dungeon in classic should not exist, because if dungeons is to easy and other content, then something is not scaled correct. CLASSIC NEEDS TO BE HARD!!
I'm surprised there's absolute nothing for warriors. Specifically Protection Warriors! As a Protection Warrior it's basically impossible keep AOE threat on trash mobs in raid, compared to for example a Shaman tank with still overtuned Lightning Shield. Besides that Block Value is still bugged, when it comes to adding damage to Shield Slam... #FixProtWar
Incur killed the launch for me, the AH market is busted...9g for 1 pot. I cannot afford to raid... 1 raid lock out, done in 1 night, my guild just raid log, i don't see anyone until thursday nights now, WO spam princess runs, all braindead content.... SOD for me, unless it's fixed for ph4 - is over....
We just talked about this with our guild last night after ST... We need 10 mans again, and not just UBRS in phase 4. It's not hard to take a dungeon like Dire Maul and scale it to 10 man (or 5man) with a timer and extra loot at the end for times runs. Maybe a mount for perfect timed completion? A simple idea like this solves multiple issues for the casual AND hardcore player, and there's so many more. Either there are 3 developers in a small room working on wow, or they know they can feed us crap and we'll still fork over $15/month.
Balancing : bring back 10man raids and you'll solve the meta stacking I think i'm speaking for many of us, we're burning out... i love SoD but i had to go back to Retail juste because i can play alts and click to play... SoD runes are nice but... it's too much to do on several characters ...we need account wide sh*t!
Runes should absolutely be account-bound. You should also be able to buy previous season runes with a currency or just gold. I would play multiple classes and spend more time in the game if some of these runes were easier to obtain. Especially for previous season runes when content is not relevant or current. Blizzard can leave the quests for people who want to do that, but accessibility is not a bad thing. I started in P3 with an alliance priest on Living Flame and raided that following Sunday. The next week I started a shaman on Lone Wolf and raided the following Sunday. I was able to use incursions for both characters and get them raid ready. Which is convenient. I do not agree with you about incursions. I believe a lot of that is hyperbole and blown out of proportion by content creators and players who just echo their sentiment. Incursions didn't affect my consumables, it didn't affect my world content or dungeon experience. I was still able to complete all things. I do believe Blizzard should have placed an opt-in system for the PvP aspect of incursions, especially as time went on. Currently, it is difficult leveling and grinding incursions due to constant PvP. Just having the option would be nice and a welcome change. All of the quests should have remained normalized and provided the exact same gold. This didn't affect me and I really didn't care that gold was being made. It wasn't important enough for me to give any concern, since I was still going to play the game. At the end of the day, this is a casual mode on a 20 year old platform/system. Everything in this game should be highly accessible and easily obtained with very few grinds or farming. There's no reason for it. People have classic era servers, cataclysm, retail, etc. for all that nonsense. If you truly wanted the classic experience, go play classic era. Better yet, if you still wanted SoD, play without the delight buff. Don't participate in the content. SoD, by all accounts, was not created for the top 1% parser or die hard classic only fan. If people are confused by this, they should read the most recent Blizzard post describing SoD. I ended up PvP'ing quite a bit on the shaman and reached R7 fairly quickly. I played through the damage debuff aura and I have to say, it felt great. I even swapped to resto shaman for a few games to mix it up because the Horde were lacking some heals. I was able to group with a few warriors and grind the last bit of honor to R7 - I had about 70-80k ish left when the aura went live. It's quite interesting, most of the negative feedback about this change comes from shadow priests, boomkins, and rets. At least, that is the vocal group that is crying out. I felt the damage was smooth and healing felt relevant. It was definitely noticeable with warriors and they felt more relevant than before the aura. It seemed less people were dying to sustain burst windows that seemed to be very prominent without the aura. Shadow priests and Boomkins being the major culprits here with paladin sprinkled in for annoyance. Nothing like 5 paladins running through with bubble to the back line, just to use sacred shield and LoH for even more effective health. A lot of this is a skill issue, though. When players become accustomed to just being carried by class DPS or utility, they sometimes forget how to actually solo/group PvP when things are normalized or not in their favor.
Playing as Alliance on a PVP server (CS), Open world trying to run Dungeons BRD, or NI has been horrible. I understand Ganking happens, I understand there is going to be fights in the open world. What I find down right toxic, is players Abusing the lock out system in BRD to they can corpse camp the other factions groups, to keep them from running in; Raid Groups of Level 50's going to low level NI areas, just to kill, low level players, then camp them until the log off and stop playing. That is crappy game play. I wish that the Dev's would give 30 sec of no PVP if someone dies Just like the STV event. that way players would have a chance to get into their instance without a lot of delay. Raids, Dungeon groups etc, take a long time to get going. I do not understand why Buffing shammy's because their Raid dps is low, even though they are way OP in world PVP is O.K. and a good thing; when Shadow Priest DPS was nerfed, making them under preform in Raids, because they do too much damage in PVP. I am surprised that pally, and shammy are not unlocked for both factions. Lastly instead of harder dungeons, I would rather see a new Raid for the end of SOD. I believe a new content raid would bring a lot of players from retail, private servers, as well as classic all here to play, and would be an awesome way to end SOD.
personally dont think its the move to balance abilities around PVP not a lot of ppl do it the only reason why ppl do is for the rewards tied to it i think the flat % reduction on dmg and healing is the best middle ground for that.
if they make heroic+ PLEASE for the love of god do not repeat that awful beta/alpha/whatever system in wotlk. DO MYTHIC+ style where keys can infinite scale up. classic gets dull without repeatable content like mythic+ keys. its such a great feature in retail
Incursions Killed SOD no LFG's just getting Honor farmed trying to get a group there. idk its Dead or killing the game or my server is now dead and your server or the STREAMER server is pretty much the only server that ill thrive. SOD DEVS team smart at taking peoples money but the content is a mess and its shows
Can someone please answer me this? WHY on earth have shamans been this broken for 2 entire phases? When hunter and boomkins were broken they were nerfd within 1 week. There are even horde players, SHAMAN players who admit this is broken yet the devs aren't deciding to do anything about it, why? Are they purposely ruining the game? At least when hunters and boomkins were broken BOTH factions had them. Right now if you step into any BG its so overwhelmingly one sided if there are multiple shaman on the horde team and because its such a broken class EVERY horde team has MULTIPLE shamans, i mean why not? they aren't nerfing them right? so why wouldn't people wanna play the broken class that can 1 shot people and in either ele or enhance they can heal themselves to full in a blink of an eye....add this new pvp reduction buff and now its even more busted. I'm officially done with SoD i was hoping for them to really be on top of things like they were in the first phaser but its obvious that now they just don't wanna deal with it and want to move onto the next thing. It was fun while it lasted but im officially done with this season of discovery.
I played some BG's (mostly WSG) last week with the 50% reduction in PvP and this are my thoughts: 50% reduction was overkill. Flag carriers were near impossible to kill with the damage nerf + no healing reduction. While it was nice not to get one shot or stun-locked and it really felt like I was using my toolkit to a better degree, I think a middle ground of 25% damage reduction and 10% healing reduced would be the play here. This allows to play with a higher skillcap while maintaining a balance for the hybrid/healing classes. As for the implementation of heroic+ content in future updates I think this is the right move. We all feel SoD is lacking in endgame content. Which is understandable considering the lack of time and resources a small dev team can provide. Heroic+ will give us more options at endgame by reusing old content and doesnt require a huge investment from the dev team, making it a great solution to what we as a playerbase have been looking for.
One of the main things for me is absolutely focusing on making it more alt friendly. I have several classes I would like to test out - But the thought of getting recipees from Gnomer, ST, Runes, Rep (Especially incursion rep + PvP rep) and also of course leveling the character in the first place, combined with gold inflation, is just such a gatekeeper. Make it account wide once completed on your main character. Secondly, don't make the raids too hard - The gnomer difficulty was at a good place imo, pug friendly, a little "hard" mechanics but still forgiving enough so that you complete it without a wipefest in most cases. I believe that we have enough evidence that if point of entry to raids gets too difficult people start obsessing over WarcraftLogs and meta-setups. I raid with a guild and have no trouble in ST, but I also see how some people will be gatekept from clearing regularly or in a fun and smooth manner if stuff gets "too hard".
I hope P4 is more solo friendly. A couple mates of mine play the game too but it’s very rare that we are on at the same time because of our personal work schedule/family life. So far in SoD I have done one dungeon and 3 BfD runs (at level 34-37) because they only take 20 mins or so. Some of us just don’t have the capability to commit to group content. Having a 6 month old baby means I could have to get up and walk away from my PC at anytime. But hey I could be part of a very small group of people, I don’t expect them to only cater to people like me but it would be nice to be able to get a bit further ahead playing by myself.
I would enjoy new reasons to play 5 - 10 man content. Fortunately for me, I have a solid group of friends who can fill 10 man content. Unfortunately for me, most of them have stopped playing once 20 mans came out, because pugging with 10 other randoms kept bringing drama. Mismatching of expectations from the pugs. Kept running into pugs trying to take over the raids - demanding things being done their way. We enjoyed discovering the strategies ourselves, but a lot of that was lost for us. Not sure if i can get them all back, but more 5 - 10 man content would help for me and my friend personally.
I'm hoping they have been testing level 60 runes and know that some classes are going to be OP and overtuned if they buff certain classes. Honestly, I don't want heroic dungeons. We just need a currency (tbc tokens) for doing regular dungeons, and of course, in a 5-man group and not this cheesy 10-man group. Incursions should've been dailies and not this loot piñata that people with no lives can endlessly do. Those players could actually go do farms, so we have more items in the AH to keep prices of consumables down. If phase 4 is supposed to be released in the summer, that means the earliest we'll see it is June 20th, and that's a very long time from now.
I think Blizzard needs to keep the PVP damage nerf but just nerf healing too it would be fine and much more skill based. They will never balance balance PVE and PVP for all classes we always forget how valuable utility is (remember feral in P1). They also need to focus primarily on 5 player content. I agree with your sentiment with wow being infinitely more fun with friends and not many people are in a huge guild with a bunch of people that are willing to do things together. I have a core group of about 6-8 people that I can play with all day. Large guild/group content is only good for raid logging most of the time.
13 mins in. You start talking about playing with friends and or a guild. I’m not gonna retype everything you said but I just wanted to say thanks. Me and 4-5 irl friends have been playing wow for over ten years. We have an amazing time just doing whatever we want. Pvp, pve, incursions, whatever. We have an absolute blast playing together and it brings a whole new aspect to the game. It’s not all about parsing and playing with the best players (who are usually jerks) we just play the fucking game, and we have a hell of a time doing it. Love ya brother thank you for the vids
"Playing alone blows" bro do a deep dive on chaos bolt pls. We need awareness, I play with a disabled person we can't do high pop servers. I have 4 tidal, 60 arcane crystals, 2 epics, 12 runecloth bag recipes... send help. Can't join guilds when there isn't any :(
@tennyson988 That Paladin Consecrate turns into AoE ground-based heal idea is absolute gold. So simple, yet so cool and potentially effective! Melee Holy Pala Battle healer. Sounds awesome.
Finally - and I apologize for spamming the comments section here - but I personally believe the alt gameplay is a mistake. Raiding 5-6 times per week burns people out. I see it in my guild every day. It's never the guy that plays one toon that quits, but the guys who are raiding on a bunch of toons every week. It just gets too much after a while. Make better rewards for end-game content like the heroic dungeons, or better pvp rewards. World PVP and BG PVP should have different honor tiers as well so you get rewards for one vs the other.
Phase 3 has been extremely boring IMO. We power leveled to 50 and were excited for ST just for it to be more annoying than Gnomer and less fun than BFD.. Getting 20 people to all work together is also just as much of a headache. We were spoiled by phase 1
About the "Playing WoW alone" it's a thing i feel because i can't speak proper english sadly, and it wouldn't be a problem if i wasn't so shy in speaking a terrible english, i mean, i could learn it more playing with other people on discord but, again, shy guy. In fact i never Raided in Gnome or Sunken Temple because those were/are "hard" raids without a discord group, and actually no one will let me join a raid and play without it, so ye, boyz and girlz, if you want to have a vast amount of fun in WoW SoD just find a guild that suits you, find a good and fun group and play within it, you'll not regret it ! !
I feel phase 3 took a wrong turn of what many people wanted out of SoD. With raids being 20man and weekly lockout, our tight knit group of 12-15 players who could raid diffrent days a week now had to find another guild of strangers to play with, wich has led to as usuall that some people drop of and don't feel its fun anymore. And with weekly reset atleast I feel that there isnt much to do now in the game exept farming gold to buy expensive consumebles with. That's not the gameplay atleast I was looking for. Id be suprised if I last until Phase 4.
Wow should be stay like it was Pure classic,not adding 80 lvl skills with runes ,and after take it down to 50% dmg reduction! SoD is a meme game,second biggest meme after cataclysm! Feels bad for the players that play SoD
Incursions is like being put in a hamster wheel and being fed cocaine everytime the wheel turns a full cycle. Any dignity i still held is crushed after a few rounds of the loop.
Then dont do them and go quest and dungeon
then dont do it
i really dont get everyone shitting all over it when they can just not participate in it and level their own way
it's not like u need time to get to 50 anyhow with all these endless xp boosts that arent even needed in the first place
@@t9t9t9t9t9 its not about that at all, they should just make it that u dont get gold just rep after u are 50 and thats it people will not spam it and it can still be used as way to lvl if some1 wants little faster but more boring why to lvl. but over all state of game as they are atm its not good u cant deny it
@@t9t9t9t9t9 yeah he should go play a MMO alone and do quests, or grind instances with every thing of value hard reserved, dont even bother playing this new content you are paying for
LMFAO i love this comment so much
I want to do a dungeon or raid that requires CC again
Cata good sir!
You know what was oddly enough some of the best content for me in p3? Aside from the week one pug of ST that me and my homies had to put together and actually think about, it was definitely trying to make it to the grim guzzler pre nerf to get my paladin rune. That shit was some genuinely challenging content
@@stu805x Didn't they nerf Cata dungeons on week 1 cause people complained?
Why the fuck do I never get any of the surveys?
right?!
Same, this is first I’m hearing of it.
That particular survey went out months ago during Phase 2. You may have gotten it but didn't realize it. They go into my junk and spam email folders all the time since they contain links to survey websites. Gmail thinks they're spam emails.
Been opted in since forever. Got into one beta (TBC Classic) and zero surveys.
@@johanlahti84 same wtf
Runes that are the same for all classes should be account wide, the unique once are fine to do on alts
Curious, which classes have the exact same rune?
YES.
Feels extremely shitty having to do it again, and it also sucks that some of the runes don't actually have a level req; so you COULD get it at level 1, but you'll need someone willing to help.
So it feels terrible when you are technically able to get a rune way earlier but you rely on others to help. So at least some of those problems would be solved with account-wide rune collection.
I agree with this
@@trevsguitarstash4967 all classes have the dark riders, desolace to aratihighlands nightelf quest, ratchet quest, rep with supply boxes for example
@@trevsguitarstash4967 he means the ones that you get the same way for all classes, like killing the dark riders.
Why can’t they just make incursions a daily/weekly thing? I’m not playing classic wow to run around and repeat the same quests, im playing classic to play classic!
I will start with saying I agree. Having said that, I think they REALLY wanted to remove the dungeon grind and reset meta and just went overboard by providing an incursion grind meta that was soulless, boring, and had terrible economic inflation results. I commend them a little bit for having turned more old open world content into new-ish content, but it just never felt good. Hopefully we get a huge rework, or at least something else to do instead, going 50-60.
You can still do that.
its not classic, its SEASON OF DISCOVERY, go to a classic pvt server for that experience.
The grind from 40-50 is like... 5 hours. I'm sure you've wasted more time doing worse things.
It's so wild to me that people complain about incursions when all of the old leveling options still exist. Go do dungeon runs, go do quests, go do mob grinds.
This is like going to the grocery store and finding out that there's bananas, oranges and apples, which you like, but then there's kiwi that's cheaper, and you're mad that the things you like aren't that price. Just buy the thing you like and ignore the kiwi.
@@jasonhill8191 Yeah I don’t think incursion leveling is really an issue. With the XP buffs dungeon grinding is still super fast and can get you some pre-bis gear along the way. The problem with incursions imo has more to do with the economy. Incursion farms are a kind of dumb way to get gold that pretty much just prints money out of nowhere, causing a lot of inflation.
I love Solo content and more open world stuff so I hope they continue to add Solo type content that gives end game gear. I'm not a fan of Dungeons or Raiding. If I have too want to do a Dungeon and Raid and be finished with them rather quickly so I don't have to do them again. I think doing Dungeons or Raids every week is just boring. One reason why I hate M+ in Retail it's like when are we done with stupid dungeons lol.
I hope they fix 2h enh man dw should be the spellhance playstyle 2h should be the big physical damage dealer
For real man. Just give 2h two imbuements to be competitive with dw since it gets two. That or give 2h lava lash also. I swear it's intentional that 2h gets no support except for one afterthought rune
Having a hard 5 man content is going to help out the players who have hard time gathering 10 - 40 people for the raids.
Great video fam and I agree that alts back than in Phase 1 were so friendly, now it's very hard to even consider it. Much luv amigos 🔒
Locked it in Playa 😊
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Heal and dmg reduction for pvp doesn't fix anything just causes more issues for balancing in the future. For example warlocks dmg and healing are linked together. Drain life heals by doing damage so by nerfing damage and healing not only does my dmg get absolutely tanked so does my survivability. Stop using bandaid fixes and fix the busted classes.
SOD pvp is ultra garbage anyway. All version of classic have absolute dog water pvp and raids.
Rogues still stun lock, not that bad, but getting annoying to have to waste time fighting rogues
For someone who has Mythic raided in dragonflight and multi season mythic+ master w/e it's called. In SoD I really don't want heroic dungeons or any really hard content. Things should be easy, pug friendly, fun and ALT friendly
Not all content should be done by all players. What’s the harm in having hard modes and shit that give cosmetics.
I wouldn't mind seeing a harder difficulty content as long as it doesn't cannibalize other parts of the game. I also just don't want heroic or mythic+ because I want to see new content and I think multiple difficulties of the same content is bad and lazy for mmorpgs
For example, a 10 man raid in Kara crypts or timbermaw that gets harder every phase. The raid is a wave rush essentially. See how long until your group wipes. Each healer class can only res once. Once everyone dies your locked out for the week and get rewarded a currency by number of waves survived or a chest of loot unlocks for number of waves. Rough idea at top of my head
4 it to be alt friendly rep and rank would have to be acount wide.
You got you can do st with mumtible alts but to grind rank 7 and rep on a fresh char is to mutch 4 me. Tbo the classic ranking and rep system needs a times 10 modifier at least on those seasonal sod realms.
As someone who has raided the hard stuff, why does the existence of optional hard stuff make the game worse for those that want it? I retyped this a few times because it just comes off as condescending, but it truly isn't meant to. Content that doesn't interest me I simply don't spend time doing. Throw cosmetics and mounts at people for clearing the hard stuff and don't lock top end gear to it and you have something other than speed runs for people that want a challenge.
Yes!!!!
People get burnt out on a game and then blame it on the game. No. You are just burnt out. It's normal.
Thanks for speaking for everyone. I didn't know I was burned out and not unhappy with cringe and bad design choices made by the devs
Dude 100% like play other games for a bit I never understood the people that play one game and then when there is nothing to do they bitch at the developers
I'm not burnt out, it's just not fun for majority of players. No new pvp, extremely unbalanced pvp, raid gear is minor upgrades, like 3 dungeons that you skip as much as possible anyway, incursions are just boring and op. Literally nothing to do but raidlog. There's simply not enough devs.
Fired up retail first time since DF launch and been having fun. So it's not that I'm burnt out.
Changes being weekly is what is burning me out
@@86Damacybut youre playing a different game. Its like saying youre not burned out of cs go because you play valorant
Made STV much harder to get blood. Making it much more of a grind to get STV gear. I was basically getting half the blood I normally would. So maybe a little tweak to that reduce prices or give more blood per kill. So people that don’t care for pvp so much don’t have to grind out so much to get their gear. Especially now with dual spec and people having to grind out 2 pieces of gear. Hunters come to mind with both weapons being 25 coin. Other than that it did feel much better in battlegrounds. But agree it could use some slight tweak
depends on class. I was getting more cause i could live for longer than 4 globals to get a cast off lol
Did my first STV event Saturday and only got 7 silver coins, must’ve been why but I was just thinking how people did it in 1-2 events
You threw me off on the last couple vids. You basically say in almost one breath how bad incursions were and you leveled up in 20 minutes, then go on to say how Blizzard needs to make leveling alts easier and you barely have 2 level capped toons?? Personally I love the incursions(cow level?), granted I have more time than the average player, but being able to power level a toon from 40-50 in 4-5 hours was like a breath of fresh air compared to Phase 2 where I left 5 toons at 25 basically. Also I hear you asking for more NEW content quite often, like heroic dungeons or mythic....not me personally, I'll agree the 20 mans killed a lot of guilds, but because they got comfy with their clique of friends and didn't involve others is what killed most guilds (imo) possibility of doing a 20 man. 10 people geared in full Gnomer loadouts and the rest of the guild still wearing Scarlet Monastery stuff is a bad look. gotta mix in more than just your guys alts. Sorry for the rant and although I have fully turned on you in this comment, I do enjoy your vids, please keep up the good content! Peace!
Can we have real answers about them screwing over servers. Leave the servers alone! They closed Chaos bolt, now they are doing the same to Lava Lash and offering garbage CS and the Wild Growth. Its like they want people too quit.. They say "the Lava Lash roleplay ruleset realm isn’t where we want it to be", I thought SoD was about listening to the players, WE DO NOT WANT THIS. Nobody wants to be on your mega servers. This is complete BS. Plz we want real answer from the devs and team
Whars happening with Lava Lash? The server development are chasing people into one mega server for PVE and PVP. It's kind of disheartening. I was from Chaos Bolt to Lava Lash now they are closing Lava Lash and opening up Xfers to Wild Growth.
Beast Mastery Rune IS a nerf to melee hunters only. MM Hunter uses Chimera shot on hands.
Nerf for BM ranged hunter too, it was already reduced from 30% to 20%, I don't really see the point of using that rune anymore imo.
yeah hunters have 2 specs not 3 where ret pallys have like 4 different plays styles within 5-10% of each other
Pallys don't have 4 styles they have healer spec and a art of war exo spam spec.
Ds and seal of command and seal twisting as well
I just want my pet to hold some threat lol
No heroic +.... it just turns seasional and I freakin hate that... I play classic to feel like im getting stronger and after a while we can solo alot of content... heroic + / titan just makes it feels like it going to become season based (patch based) NOT FUN
The social aspect of wow (specifically via guilds) has always been the strongest motivating factor for meaningful engagement and preventing burnout personally for me
Herioc dungeons were never challenging or fun, everyone facerolled them just like normal dungeons.
Development time should be spent on creating all new content, not doing the same dungeons with a little more health and damage and slapping a herioc sticker on it. This idea is so bad, please stop pushing it endlessly and come up with something with an ounce of creativity.
My guy what is it??? 2:51 you say you "do not not love the idea of nerfing runes or abilities of other specs that they are using in that situation because its flat out stronger why not buff the other ones" then 14:52 "they have to do something to nerf mutilate and buff sabre slash & bs builds.
Cant play with friends, im a night shift worker. When im awake with free time i have responsibilities so my nights off i play solo and lost desire to play sod.
Feel like it would be cool to add new 5man instances. Not full dungeon length but a few difficult trash mobs requiring CC and a boss. Spread across multiple zones and maybe change up the mobs & boss occasionally. Was hoping that’s what Incursions would be
I'm still loving the game because I'm still leveling alts and gearing up my main. Definitely excited for P4 and all it will bring.
Called someone a tard in a Wsg for being afk now banned for a month 😅 gotta love auto report
I'll likely unsub if they do heroic dungeons. That's so cheesy
Warrior Rune Idea-> Arms Tanking: You can use rend and overpower in Defensive stance (or get extra aggro in battlestance), get parry through str or something, maybe some sort of self healing (dk'ish). Make it similar to a Bear.
You crazy bastard you're on to something I like it
Polling system would be amazing, OSRS does it, has irs good and bad moments but the idea exists.
Would have to be an in game thing tho, doing it on Twitter means a large portion of the game wouldn't get to vote, more people don't follow content on YT, Twitter, etc than follow it. Retail has shown that over the years
A feedback button similar to what wow has with their betas and ptrs would be cool alongside that.
I want to point out that at least for me, seeing a new rune that'd speed up and make my leveling more fun but it's in a lvl 40-50 zone is annoying.
A level 1 hunter can for example get the rune in Tanaris and Feralas IF they have someone to help them. The runes (or most) have no level requirement, and it makes me demotivated knowing that I could get them but can't because nobody is willing to help and/or I have no friends playing.
Make the runes either have several spots to get them for various level characters OR make the runes actually have a level requirement. It kind of feels like you're carrying 100 pounds when you have the option to carry 10, does that make sense? Like.. you could get the rune and have more fun with that rune, but without being at that zones level; you will not be able to unless you get help.
It kind of sucks balls for solo players or those who don't have friends playing.
You can kind of compare it to leveling with Incursions (so with the rune) VS picking the longer road of questing in the open world (without the rune).
I can't be the only one feeling bad about it.
Yeah like the fact that you can't really heal as a mage till 20/25 is pretty lame.
@@keelhld94 Saying it's an MMO feels like such a weak argument imo.
I enjoy playing solo, but also seeing others in the world running around. I'd actually enjoy WoW more if it was like runescape where you can do most if not everything solo.
I also highly doubt many people in a guild would be willing to help me get all the runes I wanted whenever I want them.
I had to resort to playing 2 WoW accounts (alt+tabbing) to help myself because nobody else would. I've stopped playing for now though, I'm kinda tired of it.
@@RunicTitanbro play retail or hardcore if you like solo lol you need people in SoD to get things done
@@keelhld94 Bruh. Of course I dont fucking play endgame solo, but for leveling I prefer Solo if possible. All I am saying is that I do not like that some runes req lvl 1 but are in lvl 40+ zones..
It’d be nice to be able to just buy the runes from the goblin in Ratchet for your Alts once you’ve done that grind once
Wouldn’t be a blue post without shaman buffs.
If shamans are not #1 in pve and pvp its suddenly a huge problem and they get buffs.
It really feels like the devs are buffing their favorite classes and leaving the rest in the dust.
@@Blue.DieselFeral cats haven’t been touched since the beginning of phase 2 and it was a shitty duration quality of life buff on an ability that does 10% of your damage
Wouldn’t be a blue post without more tramrat tears over shaman. Paladins are blizzard’s love child btw so keep crying
@@TheCodSaint think we found the shaman trying to parse still 😂 relax ya baby
tbf shams were pretty low tier for the last 20 yrs in classic lol...and they still arent top tier in anything atm. Enh was top dps last phase, which lasted less than 2 months
I am not looking for super challenging content at all, I play other games for that. I just want easy, pug friendly and alt friendly stuff to do.
good news; incursions are designed just for people like you. now hop on that treat mill and enjoy your easy, pug friendly alt friendly content.
newsflash: you can't have easy, pug friendly, alt friendly content which is fun, because if its fun it means its challenging.
pick one.
Swipe for cat rune. Also: being able to eat, drink, pop potions without going out form. ‘Cause right now it’s ridiculous that you drink till full mana in base form only to lose a big chunk of your mana again when you shift back to cat/bear. And maybe a new form like the snake form from Druids of the claw, applying poisons to the target (but instead of cat, you’d have to chose which you use by applying the rune)
Ive also been thinking about new druid forms tbh! Snake is a cool idea i was thinking perhaps wolf or gorilla.
2:39 - Really? Most melee hunters are BM and the damage that those pets do within a fight are absolutely disgusting, and lets not talk about in PvP... I think this is a pretty obvious and easy change to do so you don't hurt the fun of melee hunter but still cap it off. You also get the benefit of reducing the damage a pet does in Beastial Wrath, which we can all admit is about as brain-dead and frustrating as anything in PvP. A player killing you with one button, not playing the game, and basically no counter play. Yikes.
Yeah but that’s BM in every expansion ever lmfaooo
@@TheComebackKids No no no. BM was always obnoxious, but its easily become the worst and most obnoxious because of how much damage we do now, AND that pets scale with stats. BM and Beastial Wrath got a disgusting buff compared to its Era counterpart, relative to almost every other Era ability.
The fact that a non-player character that can be controlled with 1 button can delete you in 5 seconds flat is about as bad game design as ANYTHING can get, especially in PvP.
The pvp change has been game breaking imo.
Please please please PLEASE seperate Affliction from Destruction Warlocks. I want to see how they are doing against each other
Also I find Invocation nice in Arathi Basin when you can sit back in the back throwing out dots. It gives you a nice bit of instant damage potential
Invocation effects should just be rolled in the the pandemic head tune
Gamer here, dont message anyone while i play, havent had one person ask about logs, and have a great time 🤷🏻♂️
I don't like coffee and I don't want to sit down!
Buying runes with a currency is SUCH a good idea
Agreed. Still haven't bothered getting the Despair rune for my priest. Initial drop rates were ass, then the community started demanding bulk gold charges for group invites so I just said fuck it.
Buying runes with gold as a gold sink would be a better idea. Deflate this economy
@@thebenis3219the worldcore fragments are no longer BoP & can be bought on the AH for like 80s though..
@@hotlikesauce Oh for real? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info fam! Been swamped with work the last 3 weeks so I haven't been able to keep up with everything since phase launch.
What about discovering
We need at least SOME challenging content in SoD !!
These facepalm raids will bore and burn out players.
yeah day 1 sunken temple was actually a first time challenge in SoD, after they nerfed it down in the ground because everyone was crying about it it got so easy and just downright lame like gnomeregan and bfd
they should have a difficult optional raiding scene for players that actually want to take time to clear stuff and not just facepalm through it in 30 mins every few days
@@SimonRobeyns Agree. I really don't understand the approach of nerfing raids after they've been released, like several weeks into a season, cuz i mean, players get better and better gear as time goes by, so the raid gets easier and easier, and then they also nerf it?? It just doesn't make sense in my head.
I quit SOD mainly because of massive class imbalance. The whole point was supposed to be to shake up the meta, make other spec viable, etc. But melee classes are even more dominant than they are in classic.
There isn't a single enchant in the game from the enchanting profession that increases a casters DMG. (The fraction of crit you get from the couple of int enchant is so minor it's not even worth mentioning.). Melee however can get direct damage boosts from every single enchant slot. Plus whetstones plus they have more than twice the consumables that benefit them.
The gear in ST is also much more of an upgrade in general for melee than it is for casters. The dagger that drops in ST has only 1sp more than the dagger from gnomer. It's a joke.
Also 20man raiding kills the casual and fun atmosphere. First off you can have a closer relationship with 10 people than you can with 20, and the experience feels much more interactive. With class variety, there is way fewer times 2 people need the same piece of gear which means every person going into the raid will more than likely get something every time. Also you can't have 20 people talking casually over coms like you can with 10 people without people talking over and interrupting each other, so you have to go through the whole raid with cleared coms and just feel like a brick in the wall, it takes the fun and engaging element out of the experience.
Tldr: sod sucks because of massive class Imbalance, loot imbalance, and 20 man raids
Yeah im super disappointed as a caster spriest in phase 3, I raid log so all I care about is parsing and loot. But with this underwhelming upgrades in phase 3, the loot is now a non factor until phase 4.
paying $15 a month to play once a week, is a ripoff and feel im gettin milked until phase 4. Oh well ill play other better pvp games in meantime and continue to raid log for the pve raids
The epic caster dagger dropped and I couldnt even get excited knowing I have the gnomer dagger and it ended up going to a new person with a Scarlet monastery dagger zzz
I whant 40 mans back. 20 mans is not classic. 10man is pug shit
Casters had their time in p2
@@knex856 sweet one phase out of 4 total, how is that fair lol
hunter are nerf but ROGUE and WARRIOR are left UNTOUCHED?! what a fuckng joke.
I play all 3 and my warrior is my highest dps with cd can do one 2k dps rogue at 1.4 and hunter at 1.4. After hunter nerf i see it at 1.1k dps
@@105Strike105 I bet.
Recently found a new guild as my old guild all transferred off to a PVE server. 100% agree that playing with others is the way to go. Making impromptu groups to clear out an instant portal that's being camped has been great for passing the time.
Touch some grass bro. I hear it's great for "passing time".
@@Shiftlinkage101 Yeah that is a much better way to pass the time, even more so since it's been so nice outside!
guilds that do content besides raiding?! where?! lmao
LMFAOOOOO
i have 58 days played and all ive discovered is that blizzard are just as lazy as they always have been, where are the new abilities, where are the new dungeons, new raids, new anything?
Theres 3 news raids so far, countless new abilities, new rotations, new profession items, new viable specs, new ways to level, new pvp events, new pvp rewards...just quit the game if you look at it through a delusional doomer's lense.
@@t9t9t9t9t9 most sane and logical blizzard slop enjoyer, no thank you im allowed to have an opinion. New raids that are based off of existing content, new abilities that are based off of existing content, new items that are models of existing content, is it really so much to ask for actual new content when we pay 15$ a month for this?
Another banger! The best wow content on the internet hands down
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
class changes / tunining
"looking at mages in pvp"
feel like the pvp part of mages they legit cant do much anymore in phase3 legit fully powercreeped out of the game
see Mages fireblast compare to Warlock´s searing pain (in metaform) as a really good comparsion how much mages has being powercreeped out of the game
Fireblast: 8sec. cooldown, 500dmg, 20yd, on a NOT tanky class vs. Metaform lock: 0 sec. casttime/cooldown, 500dmg, 30yd, on a tanky class (was alteady a issue in phase1 but we are at phase3 and it gotten more and more worse and the only class tuning mages has gotten is to nerf PVE stuff but ending up putting mages in pvp in a wheelchair)
and there is so many examples on this in all classes compare to mages now
pvp sod mages feels like you are setting in a wheelchair without arms or legs while everyone else has gotten ironman suits to theirs stuff
and this damage reduction that happen shows it even more : a mage could not kill a other mage that was fully afk before going oom we have CCs but nothing to really follow it up with after hit a CC
x1 Spriest Dot tick or 2 does "that is instant casted" btw does as much damage as mage´s 2.5-3.5 sec. cast time stuff where they have to stand still and dont move
Mages is a full out PVE class now and even there they kinda also getting powercreeped out almost
meanwhile Shamans just keep getting buffs and is fully broken in PVP
and making ally fully quit battlegrounds while battlegrounds is +5 shamans who is 1-2 shotting everyone while they have too many utilities compare to legit everyone else
and they STILL getting buffed only becuase of a PVE thing
like what happen in phase1 with boomkin: they was bad in PVE so now it ended up premade WSG groups with 9 boomkins and 1 priest for heals just 1shotting all and winning all the time
atleast they was not faction exclusive
paladin/shamans is on paper THE worse class to be broken in PVP becuase it WILL complety break the game´s faction balance and make people reroll the other faction or quit a server so you see the faction with the broken class out number the other faction
and they keep still buffing shamans buffing shamans right now(even if a spec is underpowered in PVE) is legit the worst thing they can do right now becuase of shamans is broken enough people is just tier whoring class and picking whats meta and complety breaking the faction balancing and making ally players quit that is also breaking the faction balancing
this is why i dont let my wow sub renew Right now the class balance is a complety joke
this is the worst balance i ever have seeing in any kind of PVP like games ever: fighting games, mobas & etc.
a class that is a glass canon but they forgot the canon part: mages in pvp RN, shamans that can just do about everything right now in pvp
really unplayable right now
Great video as always!
I think Two-Handed enhancement shamans need some love. Would especially like to see a “rune” that gives windfury weapon a aoe damage effect when wielding a two-handed weapon! Or maybe just nerf duel-wield a little bit and buff Two-handed :/
its funny the 2h enh and slow 2h ret pally players are just like
PLEASE XD
I hear you on the other side brother - just lemme DS
Sounds like a good idea but when you are in a gear check all the time and needing about 10 buffs to even be considered to go on the raid , its silly ! so No think its a shit idea , change the world culture before adding this
lol like why care? PvP is just STV spam no comms, dying by the day and BG's are inexistant due to stv event and ashenvale welfare. Only 'pvprs' now are randoms fightin mid in wsg. The 'solo' useless player wants to queue 30 min at the end of the day and whom blizz catered to by killing premades. It seems they're killing RBGs on retail as well, this is the future of wow.
Not a blizzard blue post without MORE HUNTER NERFS AS USUAL. Only DPS only class, yet they can't even let them be near top of dmg boards smh
So shaman gets more buffs as usual, and they are actually creative buffs? (not saying ele didnt need help in PVE but come on) , yet they just gave shadow a flat 10% and we are still painfully bottom of the barrel? and I love the warlock rune bug fixes being paraded as balancing changes lmao.
These devs are incompetent or way to overstretched working on Cata as well. Probably both.
Heroic dungeons next phase would be a mistake, they need to wait until the phase AFTER level 60 is introduced. Give us a reason to go BACK into those dungeons after we spent a phase farm g them for prebis etc
you know why heroics won't happen? because more than half the playerbase are casual scum who don't play the game regularly and instead cry for nerfs and buffs on the forums - they are still struggling even on content that isn't even relevant anymore (gnomer) and they hate the idea that the good players might get access to loot they can't get access to because harder raids mean they won't get carried as easily... you already see it in ST, now that the tutorial mode / baby raid scene is coming to an end, they are fuming because they can't even beat ST... now imagine ST heroic; they would never get in... and thus never get ez bis, and thats when "gatekeeping" starts being a "problem" again.
I don't have enough time to play more than 2 hours a day if that which i still feel like is a lot to someone with a life.. The leveling rates and difficult to obtain runes are extremely discouraging... Even with the 100%+ it still takes a verryy long time. It doesnt even feel like classic at all anymore so might as well boost rates a little more? 200% would be pretty nice xDDD
50% damage reduction was shit, but just removing it is also shit. They need to try other damage reductions and healing reductions
Absolutely, They already leaned this the last time they turned on the 20% damage reduction. it was horrible, now they doubled it and expected a different result for some reason. They need to learn thats the problem. 20% damage and healing reduction should do the job. All we need is a tiny bit longer fights, but they seem to struggle with this
As someone who plays rogue in SoD I say; don't nerf mutilate, instead buff saber slash properly instead of that 5 stack garbage, or buff hemo. I enjoy the current mutilate playstyle and I don't really see any need for nerfs, rather som love for the class instead.
why do they keep nerfing hunters man, just nerf warriors sometimes
they've been topping for a decade or so why can't us hunters have something nice sometime.
glad i gave up my sub already so i can wait for the next phase
7:30 survey? what survery? i didn't get a survey.... let me guess; only US accounts got one... neglected once again. EU 3rd class citizens.
Yeah, kept fighting teams loaded with priests and shammy's in BG's during the weekend. Was getting like half the honor i normally get in a BG since no one would die lol.
There def needs to be a nerf to healing if there's going to be one for damage.
I think eventually it needs to be more nuanced than a flat % across the board.
Bro pls dont talk about nerfing rogues when you dont much about the class, leave mutilate alone and just adjustments to make other specs competitive, also, Saber slash is very competitive as it is now since the buff
hunters nerfed... AGAIN.... meanwhile warriors doing 1-2k dps...
Been having fun with pvp but hard to take it seriously sometimes when you fight a decent warlock who can out heal all your dmg apply dots and just afk to make ramen
Why nurf hunters again! They are far behind warriors and behind rogues in dps! Why they hate for hunters from blizzard! We dont scale! Hunters are doomed next season.
The best way to fix that pvp mess is simple.Blizz must make DR for every class/spec individual % or perfect variant will be DR for every Spell or ability which dmg is broken or both variants.So balansing in pve and pvp will be very ez.For example u give 30% flat dmg buff on SP and u make individual dr for it -30% flat dmg in pvp or just - 30% DR on devour pleg and mind blast..That will make pvp balancing super ez ,fluid and acurate.After every buff in pve u can fix the negative impact in pvp instant.Аnd the wolf full and the lamb whole.Hope blizz make that change and stop being lazy.
You’re delusional if you think shamans are fine or even slightly OP in PVP. They are absolutely disgustingly overpowered. Most BGs I do have at least 4-5 shamans PER battleground. I’ve been in a few BGs that had 11-14 shamans personally, and have heard of people getting a full 15 shaman group. Purge, totems for literally everything, insane burst, tanky, AND good healing AND no mana problems. Get out of here.
I WANT HC DUNGENS WITH TOKENS! 5-10 man dungen/raid encounter where u have to use cc's and be smart is my favorite part of wow. And vanilla/tbc/sod are by far the best versions of wow ever. I want this. Not the clusterf that fetail was when i last played it were everything is just a billion of trash and aoe. Heroics in tbc was perfect!
The first thing everyone has to understand is that .. its not a question of time or effort, all the tweaking is question of TEAM, they have a very small team. SOD is a side project and 90% of the decision they make ...isn't well thought of. ST bosses having 4 million hp .... runes that are wayyyy to over powered in combo with other runes ... That kind of calibration is done by players testing it in Real time. The DEV said clearly SOD wont have any BETA ... that means ..we are the beta testers. Most of the changes are insane ...warrior shield bash doing 1500 dmg , boomkins doing 2400 starfires ... arcane mages doing 3k , shamans doing back to back 1.5 to 2k Damage, shadow priest doing 700 dmg per dot tick , mele hunters out dpsing warriors in PVP ,etc etc...
The big issue is players thinking blizzard is full on this SOD project and every decision is tested and balanced. None of it is ...because they have a very small team to test these WOW options.
5 man h eroic content would be great. the game is really missing content you can do on the regular with friends. Everyone is solo farming and raid logging and the game has never felt less like an mmo. 5 man dungeons that you actually fully clear would be fantastic.
On another note, I think the pvp change was ok, but 50% was way to too much. something more around 25% would make more sense. I also believe that pvp has next to nothing for rewards, BG token turn ins (3) should grant gold anywhere from 5-10. This way pvp wins in BATTLEGROUNDS will feel the most rewarding. STV event is pointless and world pvp is just a huge bag of grief. Instead of focusing on these weird world pvp things, make battlegrounds great again and provide proper rewards and save everyone the headache
Really, buffing DMG is not how you solve the PvP/PvE imbalances.
Shamans did not need more spellpower. Rogues don't need buff to their other strikes.
A perfect example of good design is classic era fury warrior Vs arms warrior. Arms bring about bigger numbers and burst while fury is "loading up" their DMG by hitting and slashin until all procs are activated and the DMG stays consistent. Right now the balancing is done by simply buff the DMG of the bursty PvP specs which in turn destroys the PvP.
I'm realising more and more that classic era truly is the greatest version of wow.
SoD isnt meant to be hard. average SoD player is barely good enough to clear current content, but not good to do retail content. skill issue.
tbh i love daggers... only reason i want swords' to be viable is because the swords look cooler in 60 content . Plus id love hemo in pvp
Like one month ago: "We gotta be realistic with expectations and give the SoD some props"
This video: "We need better runes! Heroic dungeons! Fix incursions!" Etc
Idk I feel like this video has huge doomer vibes. Maybe it's just good layering, but wildgrowth is always still popping. I have no issues looking for groups or doing activities at any level.
Also yeah incursions are boring, but it's also given me the ability to get every class to 50 (besides pally cuz horde) and it's been a blast figuring out the play styles, getting gear and learning/searching for the new runes.
If you burn out, go play a different game and take a break. For me, I can't put the game down this phase, even when redoing content between 8 level 50's.
The idea about incursion was rly good just poorly made i would say... But Heroic dungeon in classic should not exist, because if dungeons is to easy and other content, then something is not scaled correct. CLASSIC NEEDS TO BE HARD!!
I'm surprised there's absolute nothing for warriors. Specifically Protection Warriors!
As a Protection Warrior it's basically impossible keep AOE threat on trash mobs in raid, compared to for example a Shaman tank with still overtuned Lightning Shield.
Besides that Block Value is still bugged, when it comes to adding damage to Shield Slam...
#FixProtWar
Incur killed the launch for me, the AH market is busted...9g for 1 pot. I cannot afford to raid... 1 raid lock out, done in 1 night, my guild just raid log, i don't see anyone until thursday nights now, WO spam princess runs, all braindead content.... SOD for me, unless it's fixed for ph4 - is over....
We just talked about this with our guild last night after ST... We need 10 mans again, and not just UBRS in phase 4. It's not hard to take a dungeon like Dire Maul and scale it to 10 man (or 5man) with a timer and extra loot at the end for times runs. Maybe a mount for perfect timed completion? A simple idea like this solves multiple issues for the casual AND hardcore player, and there's so many more. Either there are 3 developers in a small room working on wow, or they know they can feed us crap and we'll still fork over $15/month.
Dude, seriously grouping up shouldn't be so hard. Asking for your driver's license and blood type to do a raid.
Balancing : bring back 10man raids and you'll solve the meta stacking
I think i'm speaking for many of us, we're burning out... i love SoD but i had to go back to Retail juste because i can play alts and click to play...
SoD runes are nice but... it's too much to do on several characters ...we need account wide sh*t!
Runes should absolutely be account-bound. You should also be able to buy previous season runes with a currency or just gold. I would play multiple classes and spend more time in the game if some of these runes were easier to obtain. Especially for previous season runes when content is not relevant or current. Blizzard can leave the quests for people who want to do that, but accessibility is not a bad thing.
I started in P3 with an alliance priest on Living Flame and raided that following Sunday. The next week I started a shaman on Lone Wolf and raided the following Sunday. I was able to use incursions for both characters and get them raid ready. Which is convenient.
I do not agree with you about incursions. I believe a lot of that is hyperbole and blown out of proportion by content creators and players who just echo their sentiment. Incursions didn't affect my consumables, it didn't affect my world content or dungeon experience. I was still able to complete all things. I do believe Blizzard should have placed an opt-in system for the PvP aspect of incursions, especially as time went on. Currently, it is difficult leveling and grinding incursions due to constant PvP. Just having the option would be nice and a welcome change. All of the quests should have remained normalized and provided the exact same gold. This didn't affect me and I really didn't care that gold was being made. It wasn't important enough for me to give any concern, since I was still going to play the game. At the end of the day, this is a casual mode on a 20 year old platform/system.
Everything in this game should be highly accessible and easily obtained with very few grinds or farming. There's no reason for it. People have classic era servers, cataclysm, retail, etc. for all that nonsense. If you truly wanted the classic experience, go play classic era. Better yet, if you still wanted SoD, play without the delight buff. Don't participate in the content. SoD, by all accounts, was not created for the top 1% parser or die hard classic only fan. If people are confused by this, they should read the most recent Blizzard post describing SoD.
I ended up PvP'ing quite a bit on the shaman and reached R7 fairly quickly. I played through the damage debuff aura and I have to say, it felt great. I even swapped to resto shaman for a few games to mix it up because the Horde were lacking some heals. I was able to group with a few warriors and grind the last bit of honor to R7 - I had about 70-80k ish left when the aura went live. It's quite interesting, most of the negative feedback about this change comes from shadow priests, boomkins, and rets. At least, that is the vocal group that is crying out. I felt the damage was smooth and healing felt relevant. It was definitely noticeable with warriors and they felt more relevant than before the aura. It seemed less people were dying to sustain burst windows that seemed to be very prominent without the aura. Shadow priests and Boomkins being the major culprits here with paladin sprinkled in for annoyance. Nothing like 5 paladins running through with bubble to the back line, just to use sacred shield and LoH for even more effective health. A lot of this is a skill issue, though. When players become accustomed to just being carried by class DPS or utility, they sometimes forget how to actually solo/group PvP when things are normalized or not in their favor.
Playing as Alliance on a PVP server (CS), Open world trying to run Dungeons BRD, or NI has been horrible. I understand Ganking happens, I understand there is going to be fights in the open world. What I find down right toxic, is players Abusing the lock out system in BRD to they can corpse camp the other factions groups, to keep them from running in; Raid Groups of Level 50's going to low level NI areas, just to kill, low level players, then camp them until the log off and stop playing. That is crappy game play. I wish that the Dev's would give 30 sec of no PVP if someone dies Just like the STV event. that way players would have a chance to get into their instance without a lot of delay. Raids, Dungeon groups etc, take a long time to get going. I do not understand why Buffing shammy's because their Raid dps is low, even though they are way OP in world PVP is O.K. and a good thing; when Shadow Priest DPS was nerfed, making them under preform in Raids, because they do too much damage in PVP. I am surprised that pally, and shammy are not unlocked for both factions. Lastly instead of harder dungeons, I would rather see a new Raid for the end of SOD. I believe a new content raid would bring a lot of players from retail, private servers, as well as classic all here to play, and would be an awesome way to end SOD.
personally dont think its the move to balance abilities around PVP not a lot of ppl do it the only reason why ppl do is for the rewards tied to it i think the flat % reduction on dmg and healing is the best middle ground for that.
if they make heroic+ PLEASE for the love of god do not repeat that awful beta/alpha/whatever system in wotlk. DO MYTHIC+ style where keys can infinite scale up. classic gets dull without repeatable content like mythic+ keys. its such a great feature in retail
Incursions Killed SOD no LFG's just getting Honor farmed trying to get a group there. idk its Dead or killing the game or my server is now dead and your server or the STREAMER server is pretty much the only server that ill thrive. SOD DEVS team smart at taking peoples money but the content is a mess and its shows
Can someone please answer me this? WHY on earth have shamans been this broken for 2 entire phases? When hunter and boomkins were broken they were nerfd within 1 week. There are even horde players, SHAMAN players who admit this is broken yet the devs aren't deciding to do anything about it, why? Are they purposely ruining the game? At least when hunters and boomkins were broken BOTH factions had them. Right now if you step into any BG its so overwhelmingly one sided if there are multiple shaman on the horde team and because its such a broken class EVERY horde team has MULTIPLE shamans, i mean why not? they aren't nerfing them right? so why wouldn't people wanna play the broken class that can 1 shot people and in either ele or enhance they can heal themselves to full in a blink of an eye....add this new pvp reduction buff and now its even more busted. I'm officially done with SoD i was hoping for them to really be on top of things like they were in the first phaser but its obvious that now they just don't wanna deal with it and want to move onto the next thing. It was fun while it lasted but im officially done with this season of discovery.
I played some BG's (mostly WSG) last week with the 50% reduction in PvP and this are my thoughts:
50% reduction was overkill. Flag carriers were near impossible to kill with the damage nerf + no healing reduction. While it was nice not to get one shot or stun-locked and it really felt like I was using my toolkit to a better degree, I think a middle ground of 25% damage reduction and 10% healing reduced would be the play here. This allows to play with a higher skillcap while maintaining a balance for the hybrid/healing classes.
As for the implementation of heroic+ content in future updates I think this is the right move. We all feel SoD is lacking in endgame content. Which is understandable considering the lack of time and resources a small dev team can provide. Heroic+ will give us more options at endgame by reusing old content and doesnt require a huge investment from the dev team, making it a great solution to what we as a playerbase have been looking for.
One of the main things for me is absolutely focusing on making it more alt friendly. I have several classes I would like to test out - But the thought of getting recipees from Gnomer, ST, Runes, Rep (Especially incursion rep + PvP rep) and also of course leveling the character in the first place, combined with gold inflation, is just such a gatekeeper. Make it account wide once completed on your main character.
Secondly, don't make the raids too hard - The gnomer difficulty was at a good place imo, pug friendly, a little "hard" mechanics but still forgiving enough so that you complete it without a wipefest in most cases. I believe that we have enough evidence that if point of entry to raids gets too difficult people start obsessing over WarcraftLogs and meta-setups.
I raid with a guild and have no trouble in ST, but I also see how some people will be gatekept from clearing regularly or in a fun and smooth manner if stuff gets "too hard".
I hope P4 is more solo friendly. A couple mates of mine play the game too but it’s very rare that we are on at the same time because of our personal work schedule/family life. So far in SoD I have done one dungeon and 3 BfD runs (at level 34-37) because they only take 20 mins or so.
Some of us just don’t have the capability to commit to group content. Having a 6 month old baby means I could have to get up and walk away from my PC at anytime.
But hey I could be part of a very small group of people, I don’t expect them to only cater to people like me but it would be nice to be able to get a bit further ahead playing by myself.
I would enjoy new reasons to play 5 - 10 man content. Fortunately for me, I have a solid group of friends who can fill 10 man content. Unfortunately for me, most of them have stopped playing once 20 mans came out, because pugging with 10 other randoms kept bringing drama. Mismatching of expectations from the pugs. Kept running into pugs trying to take over the raids - demanding things being done their way. We enjoyed discovering the strategies ourselves, but a lot of that was lost for us. Not sure if i can get them all back, but more 5 - 10 man content would help for me and my friend personally.
I'm hoping they have been testing level 60 runes and know that some classes are going to be OP and overtuned if they buff certain classes. Honestly, I don't want heroic dungeons. We just need a currency (tbc tokens) for doing regular dungeons, and of course, in a 5-man group and not this cheesy 10-man group. Incursions should've been dailies and not this loot piñata that people with no lives can endlessly do. Those players could actually go do farms, so we have more items in the AH to keep prices of consumables down. If phase 4 is supposed to be released in the summer, that means the earliest we'll see it is June 20th, and that's a very long time from now.
I think Blizzard needs to keep the PVP damage nerf but just nerf healing too it would be fine and much more skill based. They will never balance balance PVE and PVP for all classes we always forget how valuable utility is (remember feral in P1). They also need to focus primarily on 5 player content. I agree with your sentiment with wow being infinitely more fun with friends and not many people are in a huge guild with a bunch of people that are willing to do things together. I have a core group of about 6-8 people that I can play with all day. Large guild/group content is only good for raid logging most of the time.
13 mins in. You start talking about playing with friends and or a guild. I’m not gonna retype everything you said but I just wanted to say thanks. Me and 4-5 irl friends have been playing wow for over ten years. We have an amazing time just doing whatever we want. Pvp, pve, incursions, whatever. We have an absolute blast playing together and it brings a whole new aspect to the game. It’s not all about parsing and playing with the best players (who are usually jerks) we just play the fucking game, and we have a hell of a time doing it. Love ya brother thank you for the vids
"Playing alone blows" bro do a deep dive on chaos bolt pls. We need awareness, I play with a disabled person we can't do high pop servers. I have 4 tidal, 60 arcane crystals, 2 epics, 12 runecloth bag recipes... send help. Can't join guilds when there isn't any :(
@tennyson988 That Paladin Consecrate turns into AoE ground-based heal idea is absolute gold. So simple, yet so cool and potentially effective! Melee Holy Pala Battle healer. Sounds awesome.
Finally - and I apologize for spamming the comments section here - but I personally believe the alt gameplay is a mistake. Raiding 5-6 times per week burns people out. I see it in my guild every day. It's never the guy that plays one toon that quits, but the guys who are raiding on a bunch of toons every week. It just gets too much after a while. Make better rewards for end-game content like the heroic dungeons, or better pvp rewards. World PVP and BG PVP should have different honor tiers as well so you get rewards for one vs the other.
Phase 3 has been extremely boring IMO. We power leveled to 50 and were excited for ST just for it to be more annoying than Gnomer and less fun than BFD.. Getting 20 people to all work together is also just as much of a headache. We were spoiled by phase 1
About the "Playing WoW alone" it's a thing i feel because i can't speak proper english sadly, and it wouldn't be a problem if i wasn't so shy in speaking a terrible english, i mean, i could learn it more playing with other people on discord but, again, shy guy.
In fact i never Raided in Gnome or Sunken Temple because those were/are "hard" raids without a discord group, and actually no one will let me join a raid and play without it, so ye, boyz and girlz, if you want to have a vast amount of fun in WoW SoD just find a guild that suits you, find a good and fun group and play within it, you'll not regret it ! !
I feel phase 3 took a wrong turn of what many people wanted out of SoD. With raids being 20man and weekly lockout, our tight knit group of 12-15 players who could raid diffrent days a week now had to find another guild of strangers to play with, wich has led to as usuall that some people drop of and don't feel its fun anymore. And with weekly reset atleast I feel that there isnt much to do now in the game exept farming gold to buy expensive consumebles with. That's not the gameplay atleast I was looking for. Id be suprised if I last until Phase 4.
Wow should be stay like it was Pure classic,not adding 80 lvl skills with runes ,and after take it down to 50% dmg reduction!
SoD is a meme game,second biggest meme after cataclysm!
Feels bad for the players that play SoD