An entire universe could have been saved from the Replicators if John was just more emotionally open. It was just three little words, but on no, John would rather lose a plane of existence..... So sad...
This just sparked a thought: could the Replicators integrate Starfleet replicator and teleporter tech into themselves? If so, you might have Replicators that can teleport themselves short distances, and replicate via compatible energy sources.
@derekstein6193 it's completely possible as they did that with the Asgard teleportation tech although they only seemed to do so when there were a lot of them together so they may need a large colony nearby to do so
Suddenly, I could see this developing into an arms race Ouroboros cycle, with the Borg attempting to assimilate the Replicators, which in turn attempt to consume/control the Borg, which in turn attempt to assimilate the Replicators with redoubled effort, which in turn try to find new ways to infiltrate the Borg. In the meantime, Jack O'Neill starts pulling his hair out, while Jean Luc Picard starts pulling what little hair he has left. On the bright side, there is gold in the potential ensuing banter. Edit: and I just had this idea of the Borg trying to assimilate the Ori (or at least their ships). I can only imagine the ensuing schadenfreude/hilarity when the Borg realize that the ships are far from the strongest thing in the Ori's possession, and the devastating results from trying to assimilate even a Prior, let alone an actual Ori. Another Edit: I just realized a fight between the Borg and the Ori would literally be the ultimate showdown between a whole hive of atheists and religious fanatics. I almost feel sorry for the Prior sent attempt to convert the Borg, as his/her attempt to get them to follow their Book of Origins would go right over the latter's collective heads (assuming that hostilities didn't explode right away, which I predict). And in the meantime, I could see the Ori unhappy that the Star Trek universe has not one, but multiple ascended races. Knowing the Metrons, they'd be the first to tell the Ori to go pound sand, while Q would find some way make their lives a little less pleasant. Q-"Oh, hallowed by ass! Do you realize how dependent you've become on your adoring, brainwashed masses?!" Ori Leader- "You will be purified in fire for your impudence." Q- "Oh, I'd like to see you try! You have only a fraction of the power that you would have possessed if YOU DIDN'T USE LOWER BEINGS LIKE A CRACK ADDICT!!! I did that about a million years ago, and I got bored of it in less than a millennium! Playing with beings who can actually think for themselves is much more entertaining than being worshipped by a bunch of brain-dead zombies!"
I feel like O'Neill would need someone smarter than him to explain why this is a bad thing, or he'll basically be like "So two of the biggest threats to the universe are tearing each other apart? Sounds like a good deal to me." (Not to imply that O'Neill is dumb, just, sometimes he leans towards the "refreshingly simple approach" to things.)
@@novacorponline And then he'd proceed to start pulling his hair out when he finds out how truly fucked up things have become. Although Star Trek already exists as a media in the Stargate universe, so it wouldn't take long to explain to him how fucked up things would get if either the Replicators or Borg managed to assimilate the other.
I'm getting flashbacks to what happened when the Daleks met the Cybermen in Doctor Who. Daleks believe in genic purity so they considered Cybermen inferior because they have organics from many different species.
I think this is similar to the Zerg vs Tyranid. It doesn't matter who wins everyone else loses. One absorbs the other or even just out right gives birth to a new even more deadly species. . . . . Good stuff.
@@terence7025 I think it might be fairly even in truth. Zerglings are like war dogs 🐕. If you’ve even had to fight a dog in a real time rpg, I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. Xenomorph using ambush tactics, otherwise a coin flip 1 v 1 or both ‘lose’. Otherwise 2 Zerglings to be safe. Zerg don’t fight 1 v 1 though. Primal maybe. I don’t think Protoss have a mouth. . . . could be wrong.
@UnknownPerson-lq8gy "Oh boy, the Zerglings have treed another squirrel... whoops that's no squirrel!" Protoss do have large nose slits (kinda like Voldermort)....
"I mean with you and the rest of the Borgs, I can speak to. And try to stop you from doing dumb things. And maybe laugh afterward sometimes when you fail. Sometimes. With these Replicators, I do not know how to speak to them. So when I say I prefer you over them, it's because with you, I can understand."
When a collective hive mind realises it technically isn't immune to having a singular perspective. It's just on a larger scale. When one choice could end what planned to be endless, would anyone miss them? Would anyone want to? Funny how everyone is kind of the same when staring into that face.
Well now I’m imagining the Borg and replicators merging into a single entity, with for more options for replicators to use theirs technologies, and the Borg adding in adaptation tech and possibly more enhancements to make new drones with replicator capabilities, meaning the ability to assimilate from this new entity will be complimented with matter devouring and reassembly to fabricate more drones without need a living creatures.
not only more drones but it would basically have the ability to create any new upgrade or weapon for itself that they could design. The repli-borg would also be immune to energy based weapons making the klingons the only threat until someone figures out how to make gunpowder again.
John, the borg can't assimilate the replikators because they aren't organic. There is of course the option of trying to take them over with borg nanites like they do with ships but, then it's a matter of whose programming is more viral and considering the replikators are bug like their thought process might not be compatible and could even overwhelm the collective. And that's not taking into account the replikator queen could dissolve any that became assimilated if they did manage to assimilate a replikator
I think the problem boils back down to that the Borg have problems dealing with things they cant assimilate first. Sure they can assimilate ships but im pretty sure that's based on info they got after assimilating either the crew or interfacing with the ship. Dont see how they would be able to do that with Replicator blocks.
counter, entire replicator COLONIES can get demolished by a single EMP, and depending on how widespread that EMP was (in Stargate, the replicator problem was "solved" via using the stargates to propegate that EMP galaxy wide) they can wipe them out completely. the Borg ain't gonna be happy about the EMP and it MIGHT disable their hivemind (I don't think it was ever established what powers it) but they will adapt and re-assimilate any drones who get disconnected from the collective. I gotta hand this match up to the Borg
The Borg can assimulate non-organic "life". They would have assimulated Data but his positronic brain would have been irrevocably damaged. The Replicators don't have positronic brains and their code has been altered before.
Meanwhile, in the Unimatrix, one hive mind is encountering another hive mind for the first time. They are awkward and don't really know what to talk about. But as the last physical form is destroyed and the connection ends, they both feel positive about the encounter and look forward to the next.... (I think this is how we get human form replicators... eventually)
This might be the most terrifying scenario you have come up with. Combining the Borg Collective with the Replicators will not end well in any universe.
I would absolutely love to see an actual breakdown and comparison of the Borg and Replicators done by someone 😂 *I need this now* more than I could have imagined!
It would probably come down to if the Replicators can form/produce the Human Forms (nanite tech) or not. If yes then they will be at the level of the Ancients pre-ascension (and Ori tech) who are in turn on par with the Q post-ascension.
This would be an interesting battle. The Borg collect data on situations and quickly calculate countermeasures. A Replicator would get first hits but the Borg would figure out counters to the replicators attacks. Then they would collect data on the Replicator. They would see a competing hivemind and attempt to override the Replicator hivemind. Between the two it would depend on how strong their code is. We're talking about battling software. In the end I see The Borg winning this one.
Oh no. John you need to make sure to keep the borg from finding out about the human form replicators. Same goes for the Asurans. It could lead to some terrible things happening. Just like the CyberBorg incident of 2012.
Shouldn't the borg hive mind remember every previous call? Why doesn't john just remind them "of what happened last time you didn't listen when I told you to leave"?
I would like to see an alternate timeline where Nappa managed to help palpatine with that insult battle he wanted with Constantine and more recruitment videos like you did with the guy who became a cloud of radiation between you and Levi. Also this was pretty good. I’m curious what would happen next. Hope there’s a part 2.
Ooh: better argument to make this more complicated; throw in DG Cells (basically nanites used by the Devil/Dark Gundam from G Gundam) and Zonder Metal (King of Braves GaoGaiGar) into the mix; as both assimilate both technology AND Organic hosts to become stronger and spread farther. Whereas the borg assimilate organics to then steal their knowledge and reproduced/integrate their technology, and Replicators just Kill organics and eat materials while exploiting technology simply as a means of delivering themselves to consume and spread.
Warframe Sentients: But can either of you facetank bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing attacks? Sure, Sentien damage adaptation isn't networked, but they're not falling to Picard with a Tommy Gun or a Tau'Ri spec ops team with P-90's.
In my opinion... The thing of it is, Replicator technology is literally lightyears beyond anything we see in Star Trek, Borg or otherwise. The closest comparison you can make is that Replicator blocks, and the nanites of the budget-friendly Replicators, are both ideally made from a material that does appear in Star Trek: Neutronium. It's most notably seen as the impenetrable armour on the Doomsday Machine. Now of course, the same word can be vastly different in meanings between canons, but if we make some reasonable assumptions about it, we can ground both in a common definition. Neutronium in its pure form is a material that is formed in the process of a star collapsing into a Neutron Star. The material is not made of atoms, but instead the intense pressure crushes the atomic particles together, cancelling out the Protons and Electrons into Neutrons, and packing them tightly with no space between. They say an atom is analogous to a solar system, with the nucleus as the Sun, and electron shells like the orbit of planets. Imagine that same analogy, but it's completely filled with planets packed tightly together in a clump with a diameter of 10% the size of the observable universe (8.7 billion light years). Neutronium is by nature, the densest possible material. It's clear though, in both Star Trek and Stargate, that the objects said to be made of Neutronium are not made of pure Neutronium (or the Replicators would instantly sink into any planet they stood on, or the Doomsday Machine would have a gravity field like a planet) and thus must be made from some kind of Neutronium-enhanced material that keeps the weight/mass down while retaining the benefits. The Borg though, they don't have access to that level of technology. They have nanoprobes that measure about measure about 7 nanometers across. This may indeed be smaller than the cells used by the humanoid Replicators, but regardless, the nature of Replicators is such that even if one or more blocks are infected, they can be instantly disconnected and discarded, as the Borg would discard a damaged drone. Replicator blocks contain millions of Keron pathways, and the fact that we don't even know what that means kinda indicates that they're a level beyond the Borg. Could the Borg assimilate the Replicators? Probably not, I'd say. Could the Replicators defeat the Borg? They might have a harder than normal time actually, with infesting a Borg ship, but in the end the Borg wouldn't have much of a chance.
Replicators may get nanomachines using the energy to matter converters, especially if they figure out how to design them. Then it gets worse for everyone.
If the Replicators fought the Borg, Replicators win. It wouldn't even be close. You know how roaches live in the walls? That would be the Replicators. Once they were in a Borg ship you couldn't get rid of them, and they'd jump ship as soon as they contacted another, or a central hub. Which they'd hijack the cube to fly toward as soon as they were able.
The human form nanite Replicators, like that one copy of Samantha Carter, were the only ones who even had a concept of bills and they sure were not paying them.
The star wars and star trek universes both about to be taken to school by a single piece of ancient technology. Wait, does that mean Levi is going to be busy getting SG-1 back together to go save the Jedi? 😱🤤 You know, after thinking about this further. Pretty sure we need Hammond for this one too. No way Landry is prepared for this. As good of a general as he is, i don't think he can handle the borg and the sith together.
once the borg realize that replicators can be destroyed via EMPs it's game over for the replicators. sure, they might temoraily lose a few drones, but those can always be re-assimilated later, and in the meantime the entire Collective will adapt to no longer be vulnerable to EMPs. Borg win, hands down
EMP weapons aren't that useful there, there were some specialized anti-replicator weaponry developed in Star Gate, but the closest to an EMP is when they set off the nukes inside the Russian sub to clear it.
They're susceptible because they also hadn't adapted to it. If it was a weakness they couldn't adapt to, you wouldn't need to EMP *ALL* of them at once
Depending on if these were early replicators or late replicators in the timeline would really determine if the hive Minds would wind up fighting with each other or not personally I think Borg nanotechnology would take over any replicator drones that they tried to assimilate the issue would really become if the board could assimilate all the replicators before the replicators could deconstruct the Borg Cube
Replicator uses their acid to breakdown borg into component parts to make more replicators. Next borg has defense from acid, shoots nano probe into replicator and starts to transform it into a borg. But since its not organic the nano probes dont work as well and replicators adapt to borg becoming immune to nano probes, figuring out how to use nano probes and you have human formed replicators but this time its borg formed replicators. Now you have borg vs borg formed replicators with army of replicators, borg begin to take the threat seriously, replicators adapt and multiply. Borg eventually sacrifice cube to save the network, it does work or rather it does blow up into pieces but that just scatters replicators and they slowly eat the borg cub pieces and anything that gets close and soon a host of replicator ships with trans warp drive start to hunt for more borg. Borg call for help like they did with species 8472, federation realizes the problem is bigger then the borg and agrees to gather allies. Klingons and Romulans says no, let them fight, so do must galactic polities. As federation is sending whoever is the current captain of their flag ship to make an impassioned plea that will somehow work, the replicators keep replicating, as they are want to do, and the borg are running scared. The delta quandrant is at first happy the borg are being destoryed and terrified of what they are running from. Federation eventually does show up with alpha and beta quadrant allies to join up with delta quadrant fleets fleeing the scurge and the remaing borg. Some random federation engineer figures out old fashioned projectile weapons actually work well especially shotguns. Kingons love it. Soon everyone, even the borg, are using shotguns and repeating rifles to hold back the swarm and giant ship to ship macs (magnetically acclerated cannons) using their deflector or something. Its slowing them down but the replicators have absorbed too much borg technology and its not stopping them. Federation figure out a call home frequency in the replicstor base code and come up with the idea of trapping them in a time dilation trap and then collapseing them into a black hole. Which works until it doesn't. Replicators emerge more powerful then ever having spent eons perfecting their technology. All seems lost when a federation tech with some insight from a random q visit starts to research the binding energy of replicator cells. Finds the connection and a way to neutralize it. Catch is it has to be deployed to all of them at mostly the same time or if some surfive they may adapt away the weakness. Borg let federation use the trans warp network even though this much energy going through willl destory the whole network. Federation deploy it with borg help and destroy the replicators. As a side effect Federation figure out a way to neutralize borg nanites (something the replicators did easily and federation copied them) borg sue for peace, romulans and klingons say no and destory them (as allies they got a copy of the nuetralizing tech). Some of the federation are agry but not by much as they save many people who were hosts. Borg and replicators are dead... for now. Somewre in q space a q asks another q: well that was fun, what other hive mind should we throw at them now?
great now I think about wich hive mind might be the strongest of them all, or if those would just combine in the process, and what would happen if the Borg assimilate a venom parasite wich is also part of a hive mind
I’m going to have to give the edge to the replicators in a matchup like this, it all comes down to the differences between replication and assimilation. The Borg need organic beings to integrate into the Borg hive mind. The Borg gain all the knowledge of the individuals assimilated and sometimes upgrade the technology of the collective. The replicators consume matter on the atomic level and use it to build more replicators. They can eat rocks, plants, ships, and organic beings. The replicators can eat a Borg cube better than the Borg can assimilate the replicators.
@@StrangeTerror The nanoform replicators would be a heck of a lot worse. The lego block/spider replicators are still exceedingly dangerous, but are more of a paperclip optimizer run amok there... Part of the worry is that if you use beta stuff, you have insanity like what's popped up in STO with the last episode, a version of Control took over the Borg in that universe
@@meganofsherwood3665 Star Trek Online. Control originated in the Star Trek novels and comics as an AI menace that kind of worked over Section 31 as it developed. It wasn't exactly evil, but it kind of took the any means necessary thing to an extreme. It was a workable thing where they had it a developing character over several storylines in different eras...and it was beaten when it realized that a lot of it's own actions were unnecessary and, in fact, harmful to it's own goals after achieving full sapience by the end. Then Star Trek: Discovery swiped the idea and made it a nanomachine fueled SkyNet piece of stupid that threatened the galaxy... STO has a current season where the story is tied into various alternate universes. The first couple tied into the mirror universe with the Borg Kingdom which is a very military and screwy version of the Borg, and the most recent one that came out a couple weeks ago added the Control Borg where the Borg found STD's version of Control and got usurped.
@@mbos14 The Klingons, however, might stand a chance, given their preference for melee weapons and glorious death in combat. They might not win, but they could certainly slow the Replicators down. Meanwhile, the Ferengi nearly end the universe by attempting to put the Replicator technology to commercial use 😂
Base form replicators are hard to work with, but replicators made out of nano bots should be easy, they are WAY smarter. That said it would be interesting to see if the borg could handle base form replicators, no way they could deal with the smarter ones.
@@williamchamburgh8316 I take it they are great end game type's to fight because even if you have concussive weapons they will make up for that weakness with numbers.
An entire universe could have been saved from the Replicators if John was just more emotionally open. It was just three little words, but on no, John would rather lose a plane of existence..... So sad...
Probably i'm missing something?
at first I thought you were talking about SG-1 Jack
No, John don't give in to the peer pressure. If you don't feel the same, don't lead them along.
All hail RepliCarter, the new Borg Queen
Yes!!! I love this
I mean..in STO the Borg of one universe was assimilated by Control from Discovery. So it IS a valid concern.
YES! FINALLY, THE REPLICATORS ARE GETTING MORE ATTENTION!
This just sparked a thought: could the Replicators integrate Starfleet replicator and teleporter tech into themselves?
If so, you might have Replicators that can teleport themselves short distances, and replicate via compatible energy sources.
@derekstein6193 it's completely possible as they did that with the Asgard teleportation tech although they only seemed to do so when there were a lot of them together so they may need a large colony nearby to do so
If Deadpool gets involved to solve this we’re all doomed.
ah yes. replicators that can pop out of scene changes. just what we need.
God, if they get that deadpool power, imagine all the fourth wall breaking
At least the Borg Queen would he happy. She liked him.
Suddenly, I could see this developing into an arms race Ouroboros cycle, with the Borg attempting to assimilate the Replicators, which in turn attempt to consume/control the Borg, which in turn attempt to assimilate the Replicators with redoubled effort, which in turn try to find new ways to infiltrate the Borg.
In the meantime, Jack O'Neill starts pulling his hair out, while Jean Luc Picard starts pulling what little hair he has left. On the bright side, there is gold in the potential ensuing banter.
Edit: and I just had this idea of the Borg trying to assimilate the Ori (or at least their ships). I can only imagine the ensuing schadenfreude/hilarity when the Borg realize that the ships are far from the strongest thing in the Ori's possession, and the devastating results from trying to assimilate even a Prior, let alone an actual Ori.
Another Edit: I just realized a fight between the Borg and the Ori would literally be the ultimate showdown between a whole hive of atheists and religious fanatics. I almost feel sorry for the Prior sent attempt to convert the Borg, as his/her attempt to get them to follow their Book of Origins would go right over the latter's collective heads (assuming that hostilities didn't explode right away, which I predict).
And in the meantime, I could see the Ori unhappy that the Star Trek universe has not one, but multiple ascended races. Knowing the Metrons, they'd be the first to tell the Ori to go pound sand, while Q would find some way make their lives a little less pleasant.
Q-"Oh, hallowed by ass! Do you realize how dependent you've become on your adoring, brainwashed masses?!"
Ori Leader- "You will be purified in fire for your impudence."
Q- "Oh, I'd like to see you try! You have only a fraction of the power that you would have possessed if YOU DIDN'T USE LOWER BEINGS LIKE A CRACK ADDICT!!! I did that about a million years ago, and I got bored of it in less than a millennium! Playing with beings who can actually think for themselves is much more entertaining than being worshipped by a bunch of brain-dead zombies!"
Hollow are the Ori...'s promises.
I feel like O'Neill would need someone smarter than him to explain why this is a bad thing, or he'll basically be like "So two of the biggest threats to the universe are tearing each other apart? Sounds like a good deal to me." (Not to imply that O'Neill is dumb, just, sometimes he leans towards the "refreshingly simple approach" to things.)
@@novacorponline And then he'd proceed to start pulling his hair out when he finds out how truly fucked up things have become.
Although Star Trek already exists as a media in the Stargate universe, so it wouldn't take long to explain to him how fucked up things would get if either the Replicators or Borg managed to assimilate the other.
I'm getting flashbacks to what happened when the Daleks met the Cybermen in Doctor Who. Daleks believe in genic purity so they considered Cybermen inferior because they have organics from many different species.
The banter in that episode was good.
@@mbos14 "You are better at one thing-you are superior at DYING!"
The Dalek-Cybermen verbal smackdown was epic.😂
"This is not war, This is cyber bullying!"
Send in the triborgles to deal with this problem.
3 of 8 at the end: “Wow, rude.”
I think this is similar to the Zerg vs Tyranid. It doesn't matter who wins everyone else loses. One absorbs the other or even just out right gives birth to a new even more deadly species. . . . . Good stuff.
How many Zerglings does it take to kill a Xenomorph? And can a face hugger hug a Protoss?
@@terence7025 I think it might be fairly even in truth. Zerglings are like war dogs 🐕. If you’ve even had to fight a dog in a real time rpg, I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. Xenomorph using ambush tactics, otherwise a coin flip 1 v 1 or both ‘lose’. Otherwise 2 Zerglings to be safe. Zerg don’t fight 1 v 1 though. Primal maybe. I don’t think Protoss have a mouth. . . . could be wrong.
@UnknownPerson-lq8gy "Oh boy, the Zerglings have treed another squirrel... whoops that's no squirrel!"
Protoss do have large nose slits (kinda like Voldermort)....
"I mean with you and the rest of the Borgs, I can speak to. And try to stop you from doing dumb things. And maybe laugh afterward sometimes when you fail. Sometimes. With these Replicators, I do not know how to speak to them. So when I say I prefer you over them, it's because with you, I can understand."
You forgot about human form Replicators didn't you?
@@michaeldaniels642 Everyone does.
Nice to see Stargate getting more love. Keep it coming.
I love the I am not going to tell you I love you. That had me dying
When a collective hive mind realises it technically isn't immune to having a singular perspective.
It's just on a larger scale.
When one choice could end what planned to be endless, would anyone miss them?
Would anyone want to?
Funny how everyone is kind of the same when staring into that face.
Well now I’m imagining the Borg and replicators merging into a single entity, with for more options for replicators to use theirs technologies, and the Borg adding in adaptation tech and possibly more enhancements to make new drones with replicator capabilities, meaning the ability to assimilate from this new entity will be complimented with matter devouring and reassembly to fabricate more drones without need a living creatures.
not only more drones but it would basically have the ability to create any new upgrade or weapon for itself that they could design. The repli-borg would also be immune to energy based weapons making the klingons the only threat until someone figures out how to make gunpowder again.
@@Lorkanthal guess mandos with slug rifles would still be a pain in their a$$ 😂
John, make sure to tell Levi that Abel from The Street Fighter universe is still on a waiting list.
lol, the borg has to stick their nanites into everything.
You'd think they'd have learned from the Borgpool incident.
That ending! lol
thank you
that ending line...
John, the borg can't assimilate the replikators because they aren't organic. There is of course the option of trying to take them over with borg nanites like they do with ships but, then it's a matter of whose programming is more viral and considering the replikators are bug like their thought process might not be compatible and could even overwhelm the collective. And that's not taking into account the replikator queen could dissolve any that became assimilated if they did manage to assimilate a replikator
I think the problem boils back down to that the Borg have problems dealing with things they cant assimilate first. Sure they can assimilate ships but im pretty sure that's based on info they got after assimilating either the crew or interfacing with the ship.
Dont see how they would be able to do that with Replicator blocks.
counter, entire replicator COLONIES can get demolished by a single EMP, and depending on how widespread that EMP was (in Stargate, the replicator problem was "solved" via using the stargates to propegate that EMP galaxy wide) they can wipe them out completely. the Borg ain't gonna be happy about the EMP and it MIGHT disable their hivemind (I don't think it was ever established what powers it) but they will adapt and re-assimilate any drones who get disconnected from the collective. I gotta hand this match up to the Borg
Borg don't need them to be organic to assimilate...they have assimilated non-organic lifeforms before and they can suborn things as well
The Borg can assimulate non-organic "life". They would have assimulated Data but his positronic brain would have been irrevocably damaged. The Replicators don't have positronic brains and their code has been altered before.
Getting BorgQueenPool flashbacks here
Meanwhile, in the Unimatrix, one hive mind is encountering another hive mind for the first time. They are awkward and don't really know what to talk about. But as the last physical form is destroyed and the connection ends, they both feel positive about the encounter and look forward to the next....
(I think this is how we get human form replicators... eventually)
The largest poly relationship ever.
@enzovulkoor in that relationship when they say they'll move the Sun and the Moon for you, it might be literal.
That ending was awkward 😂
This might be the most terrifying scenario you have come up with.
Combining the Borg Collective with the Replicators will not end well in any universe.
No matter who wins the multiverse loses.
I would absolutely love to see an actual breakdown and comparison of the Borg and Replicators done by someone 😂 *I need this now* more than I could have imagined!
It would probably come down to if the Replicators can form/produce the Human Forms (nanite tech) or not. If yes then they will be at the level of the Ancients pre-ascension (and Ori tech) who are in turn on par with the Q post-ascension.
Am I sensing an All for Kirbuu event? Or a Borgpool event?
Existential Threats: John, what universe, please? It is delete time. Rules are rules.
This would be an interesting battle.
The Borg collect data on situations and quickly calculate countermeasures.
A Replicator would get first hits but the Borg would figure out counters to the replicators attacks. Then they would collect data on the Replicator. They would see a competing hivemind and attempt to override the Replicator hivemind.
Between the two it would depend on how strong their code is. We're talking about battling software.
In the end I see The Borg winning this one.
That last line....dangit, did Deadpool find his way into the collective again?
Oh no. John you need to make sure to keep the borg from finding out about the human form replicators. Same goes for the Asurans. It could lead to some terrible things happening. Just like the CyberBorg incident of 2012.
What's this? A food dispenser against the ultimate absorption machine. That's all this is.
Shouldn't the borg hive mind remember every previous call? Why doesn't john just remind them "of what happened last time you didn't listen when I told you to leave"?
Did NOT see that coming. 😳
That's sad.... there's that many drones in the hivemind and they're still lonely.
Love it.. i also like the replicators over the borg.. watched stargate, never really seen star trek though.
I would like to see an alternate timeline where Nappa managed to help palpatine with that insult battle he wanted with Constantine and more recruitment videos like you did with the guy who became a cloud of radiation between you and Levi. Also this was pretty good. I’m curious what would happen next. Hope there’s a part 2.
Well.....there goes the neighborhood
😂 but we do love them levi!
Ooh: better argument to make this more complicated; throw in DG Cells (basically nanites used by the Devil/Dark Gundam from G Gundam) and Zonder Metal (King of Braves GaoGaiGar) into the mix; as both assimilate both technology AND Organic hosts to become stronger and spread farther. Whereas the borg assimilate organics to then steal their knowledge and reproduced/integrate their technology, and Replicators just Kill organics and eat materials while exploiting technology simply as a means of delivering themselves to consume and spread.
Replicators vrs Borg…. Even money.
Villain Support has just been having absolute hell with these Replicators, huh?
ohhh sounds like they need a few more layers of protections from the 'deadpool' files, seems they are leaking though.
Soooo... they're like mechanical tribbles?
Ummmmm.......yeah. Basically. Just less evil.
@@chadbradford616 less evil? I think you mean more.
Warframe Sentients: But can either of you facetank bludgeoning, piercing, or slashing attacks?
Sure, Sentien damage adaptation isn't networked, but they're not falling to Picard with a Tommy Gun or a Tau'Ri spec ops team with P-90's.
In my opinion... The thing of it is, Replicator technology is literally lightyears beyond anything we see in Star Trek, Borg or otherwise. The closest comparison you can make is that Replicator blocks, and the nanites of the budget-friendly Replicators, are both ideally made from a material that does appear in Star Trek: Neutronium. It's most notably seen as the impenetrable armour on the Doomsday Machine.
Now of course, the same word can be vastly different in meanings between canons, but if we make some reasonable assumptions about it, we can ground both in a common definition. Neutronium in its pure form is a material that is formed in the process of a star collapsing into a Neutron Star. The material is not made of atoms, but instead the intense pressure crushes the atomic particles together, cancelling out the Protons and Electrons into Neutrons, and packing them tightly with no space between. They say an atom is analogous to a solar system, with the nucleus as the Sun, and electron shells like the orbit of planets. Imagine that same analogy, but it's completely filled with planets packed tightly together in a clump with a diameter of 10% the size of the observable universe (8.7 billion light years). Neutronium is by nature, the densest possible material.
It's clear though, in both Star Trek and Stargate, that the objects said to be made of Neutronium are not made of pure Neutronium (or the Replicators would instantly sink into any planet they stood on, or the Doomsday Machine would have a gravity field like a planet) and thus must be made from some kind of Neutronium-enhanced material that keeps the weight/mass down while retaining the benefits.
The Borg though, they don't have access to that level of technology. They have nanoprobes that measure about measure about 7 nanometers across. This may indeed be smaller than the cells used by the humanoid Replicators, but regardless, the nature of Replicators is such that even if one or more blocks are infected, they can be instantly disconnected and discarded, as the Borg would discard a damaged drone. Replicator blocks contain millions of Keron pathways, and the fact that we don't even know what that means kinda indicates that they're a level beyond the Borg.
Could the Borg assimilate the Replicators? Probably not, I'd say. Could the Replicators defeat the Borg? They might have a harder than normal time actually, with infesting a Borg ship, but in the end the Borg wouldn't have much of a chance.
I kind of want to see how the borg deal with the necrons from Warhammer 40 K
Replicators may get nanomachines using the energy to matter converters, especially if they figure out how to design them. Then it gets worse for everyone.
Wait.... what would happen if the flood and replicator meet... oh.... no......
If the Replicators fought the Borg, Replicators win. It wouldn't even be close. You know how roaches live in the walls? That would be the Replicators. Once they were in a Borg ship you couldn't get rid of them, and they'd jump ship as soon as they contacted another, or a central hub. Which they'd hijack the cube to fly toward as soon as they were able.
Is the Borg Queen sweet on John?
roflmao it is hard to not hate the replicators especially when they won't pay their bills......
The human form nanite Replicators, like that one copy of Samantha Carter, were the only ones who even had a concept of bills and they sure were not paying them.
The star wars and star trek universes both about to be taken to school by a single piece of ancient technology. Wait, does that mean Levi is going to be busy getting SG-1 back together to go save the Jedi? 😱🤤
You know, after thinking about this further. Pretty sure we need Hammond for this one too. No way Landry is prepared for this. As good of a general as he is, i don't think he can handle the borg and the sith together.
_BRING IT BRING IT_
I can see Hammond calmly coordinating the chaos of personalities that would be SG-1 trying to work with the Jedi 😂
Hey.... What would happen if sailor moon villains called in for help?
once the borg realize that replicators can be destroyed via EMPs it's game over for the replicators. sure, they might temoraily lose a few drones, but those can always be re-assimilated later, and in the meantime the entire Collective will adapt to no longer be vulnerable to EMPs. Borg win, hands down
EMP weapons aren't that useful there, there were some specialized anti-replicator weaponry developed in Star Gate, but the closest to an EMP is when they set off the nukes inside the Russian sub to clear it.
They're susceptible because they also hadn't adapted to it. If it was a weakness they couldn't adapt to, you wouldn't need to EMP *ALL* of them at once
I love the borg If they would have a king named Charles
Depending on if these were early replicators or late replicators in the timeline would really determine if the hive Minds would wind up fighting with each other or not personally I think Borg nanotechnology would take over any replicator drones that they tried to assimilate the issue would really become if the board could assimilate all the replicators before the replicators could deconstruct the Borg Cube
Part 2 Plz!!!
Could the borg assimilate Amazo? That could be....interesting.
And now for a cluster of Nope. I have no idea who's winning. But I get the feeling that the Acme dragon balls. 🐉 Will be needed to fix it.
Replicator uses their acid to breakdown borg into component parts to make more replicators. Next borg has defense from acid, shoots nano probe into replicator and starts to transform it into a borg.
But since its not organic the nano probes dont work as well and replicators adapt to borg becoming immune to nano probes, figuring out how to use nano probes and you have human formed replicators but this time its borg formed replicators.
Now you have borg vs borg formed replicators with army of replicators, borg begin to take the threat seriously, replicators adapt and multiply.
Borg eventually sacrifice cube to save the network, it does work or rather it does blow up into pieces but that just scatters replicators and they slowly eat the borg cub pieces and anything that gets close and soon a host of replicator ships with trans warp drive start to hunt for more borg.
Borg call for help like they did with species 8472, federation realizes the problem is bigger then the borg and agrees to gather allies. Klingons and Romulans says no, let them fight, so do must galactic polities.
As federation is sending whoever is the current captain of their flag ship to make an impassioned plea that will somehow work, the replicators keep replicating, as they are want to do, and the borg are running scared. The delta quandrant is at first happy the borg are being destoryed and terrified of what they are running from.
Federation eventually does show up with alpha and beta quadrant allies to join up with delta quadrant fleets fleeing the scurge and the remaing borg.
Some random federation engineer figures out old fashioned projectile weapons actually work well especially shotguns. Kingons love it. Soon everyone, even the borg, are using shotguns and repeating rifles to hold back the swarm and giant ship to ship macs (magnetically acclerated cannons) using their deflector or something.
Its slowing them down but the replicators have absorbed too much borg technology and its not stopping them. Federation figure out a call home frequency in the replicstor base code and come up with the idea of trapping them in a time dilation trap and then collapseing them into a black hole.
Which works until it doesn't. Replicators emerge more powerful then ever having spent eons perfecting their technology.
All seems lost when a federation tech with some insight from a random q visit starts to research the binding energy of replicator cells. Finds the connection and a way to neutralize it. Catch is it has to be deployed to all of them at mostly the same time or if some surfive they may adapt away the weakness. Borg let federation use the trans warp network even though this much energy going through willl destory the whole network. Federation deploy it with borg help and destroy the replicators.
As a side effect Federation figure out a way to neutralize borg nanites (something the replicators did easily and federation copied them) borg sue for peace, romulans and klingons say no and destory them (as allies they got a copy of the nuetralizing tech). Some of the federation are agry but not by much as they save many people who were hosts.
Borg and replicators are dead... for now.
Somewre in q space a q asks another q: well that was fun, what other hive mind should we throw at them now?
I was thinking entirely different replicators. What universe did these come from?
Stargate
@@michaeldaniels642 Thank you
great now I think about wich hive mind might be the strongest of them all, or if those would just combine in the process, and what would happen if the Borg assimilate a venom parasite wich is also part of a hive mind
Well semi-canonically we know that Cybermen hive mind beats Borg hive mind, so that’s one potential matchup sorted.
@@lordofuzkulak8308 I think that's more of a hardware/software issue with things
I’m going to have to give the edge to the replicators in a matchup like this, it all comes down to the differences between replication and assimilation.
The Borg need organic beings to integrate into the Borg hive mind. The Borg gain all the knowledge of the individuals assimilated and sometimes upgrade the technology of the collective.
The replicators consume matter on the atomic level and use it to build more replicators. They can eat rocks, plants, ships, and organic beings.
The replicators can eat a Borg cube better than the Borg can assimilate the replicators.
Can you do something with Akai Shuichi from Detective Conan? Or maybe Gin from Detective Conan?
Part 2 is out!!!!
First the Death Star now a Borg ship.. Can the Borg assimilate the replicators? Who do you think will win that battle? And as always, I love you ♥️
Oh replicators for sure. The ancients AI's would have to be so much farther ahead of the borg. No competition.
@@StrangeTerror The nanoform replicators would be a heck of a lot worse.
The lego block/spider replicators are still exceedingly dangerous, but are more of a paperclip optimizer run amok there...
Part of the worry is that if you use beta stuff, you have insanity like what's popped up in STO with the last episode, a version of Control took over the Borg in that universe
(...whispers _which one is STO?_ )
@@meganofsherwood3665 Star Trek Online.
Control originated in the Star Trek novels and comics as an AI menace that kind of worked over Section 31 as it developed. It wasn't exactly evil, but it kind of took the any means necessary thing to an extreme. It was a workable thing where they had it a developing character over several storylines in different eras...and it was beaten when it realized that a lot of it's own actions were unnecessary and, in fact, harmful to it's own goals after achieving full sapience by the end.
Then Star Trek: Discovery swiped the idea and made it a nanomachine fueled SkyNet piece of stupid that threatened the galaxy...
STO has a current season where the story is tied into various alternate universes. The first couple tied into the mirror universe with the Borg Kingdom which is a very military and screwy version of the Borg, and the most recent one that came out a couple weeks ago added the Control Borg where the Borg found STD's version of Control and got usurped.
I think the Replicators would win in the Star Trek Universe if the got control of a Star Fleet ship. Or am I wrong?
Yes because starfleet uses energy weapons. By the time they realize to switch it up its way to late.
@@mbos14 The Klingons, however, might stand a chance, given their preference for melee weapons and glorious death in combat. They might not win, but they could certainly slow the Replicators down.
Meanwhile, the Ferengi nearly end the universe by attempting to put the Replicator technology to commercial use 😂
what happens if they dont take over but make a fusion instead that would kinda horrible
Could be worse. Could be Tyranids. Or grey goo.
Base form replicators are hard to work with, but replicators made out of nano bots should be easy, they are WAY smarter. That said it would be interesting to see if the borg could handle base form replicators, no way they could deal with the smarter ones.
...vs 'Unity' from Rick & Morty (The Borg's Girlfriend)
Borg vs Tyranids vs Replicators vs Zerg , anyone got any else?
please send in Galactus to end this hell mess
omg the borg would be lunch ... lololol ... forget that star wars and star trek would both die to them ...
Most universes that mainly use energy based weaponry are kinda f'd when dealing with them.
@@mbos14 I love the TTRPG for Stargate SG-1 it includes them in the Threat section of the game.
@@williamchamburgh8316 I take it they are great end game type's to fight because even if you have concussive weapons they will make up for that weakness with numbers.
@@mbos14 I don't have a party high enough to confront them. not sure it would be fare
I'm not sure they could assimilate the replicators as they have no biological parts.
Aaaaaawww come on! Just say it!😅
The he spiders are the worst but the human versions are almost as bad
Nah that one from the Arc of the truth is the worst. The human skeleton one.
@@mbos14 I mean yeah but the spiders just hit a nerve for me
Question: what if Vaders ship was tracking the wrong ship out of Port Isley. Say a certain Firefly class ship…
Poor borg. They just want somebody to love them. Theyre probbly playing sad songs now.
Just lie, John. That's what you do with a gf.
lol
Well, we are all doomed. Human form replicas are worse.
😂😂😂
No I dont love you. Because Because your as bad as the Yautja. Yes Because neither one of you listen to me