Why Sola Scriptura is Wrong (TOP Sola Scriptura Verses DEBUNKED!)
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2021
- Why Sola Scriptura is wrong. Top Sola Scriptura verses debunked by Patrick Madrid who gives Catholic apologetics on Sola Scriptura. He shows why the Bible verses that Protestants use do not hold us. Follow Patrick below...
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I wasn't aware that Patrick Madrid has a daily show. I admire his humility! Thanks for posting.
Patrick Madrid was instrumental in my reversion over 2 decades ago! Thank God for his ministry!
Took some great notes from this one 🤓
All these wonderful videos have helped me defend and explain my faith to my Protestant family. Thank you for your work, it is a blessing!
Awesome! Keep up the good work! We have many more videos too that would help you if you haven't seen them. Check out our videos with Protestant convert Steve Ray. He is great too! God bless!
His Conversion: ua-cam.com/video/cKGRCJQLSMo/v-deo.html
Questions for Protestants: ua-cam.com/video/fksK6b_5Iiw/v-deo.html
@@CatholicTruthOfficial What do you think of the Philippines Brother?
@@dannyboy6598 Are you saying protestants are bible haters and God haters??? If so, you are funny and I pray satan's grip on you is one day loosed.
There is no defending the catholic cult. It is based on pagan traditions, hates the Bible and your human leaders claim to have more power than God Himself... talk about blasphemous. But, the Bible says that the dragon will be a dragon and speak as one.
"It is interesting to note how often our Church has availed herself of practices which were in common use among pagans...Thus it is true, in a certain sense, that some Catholic rites and ceremonies are a reproduction of those of pagan creeds...." (The Externals of the Catholic Church, Her Government, Ceremonies, Festivals, Sacramentals and Devotions, by John F. Sullivan, p 156, published by P.J. Kennedy, NY, 1942)
The retention of the old pagan name of Dies Solis, for Sunday is, in a great measure, owing to the union of pagan and Christian sentiment with which the first day of the week was recommended by Constantine to his subjects - pagan and Christian alike - as the 'venerable' day of the sun." -Arthur P. Stanley, History of the Eastern Church, p. 184
"It has often been charged... that Catholicism is overlaid with many pagan incrustations. Catholicism is ready to accept that accusation - and even to make it her boast... the great god Pan is not really dead, he is baptized" -The Story of Catholicism p 37
Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison [Note 17], are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church. {374}" -An Essay on The Development of the Christian Doctrine John Henry "Cardinal Newman" p.359
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." -Faith of our fathers 1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106
"In order to attach to Christianity great attraction in the eyes of the nobility, the priests adopted the outer garments and adornments which were used in pagan cults." -Life of Constantine, Eusabius, cited in Altai-Nimalaya, p. 94
"The Church did everything it could to stamp out such 'pagan' rites, but had to capitualet and allow the rites to continue with only the name of the local diety changed to some Christian saint's name." -Religious Tradition and Myth. Dr. Edwin Goodenough, Professor of Religion, Harvard University. p. 56, 57
@@nathanchronister2757 troll
I’m going to use the “I never said you stole money” example in the future. Perfect!
Wow, I didn't realize that I stole that from Patrick Madrid. First hear it a year or more back but didn't know of it's origin. 😀
Excellent discussion! I highly recommend Patrick Madrid’s book ‘Any friend of God’s is a friend of Mine’. He also has a free article of it on his website. It defends asking Mary & Saints to pray for us.
When the reformers denied the Eucharist, it was game over.
You mean the reformers do not practice this Sacrament?
@@Nolongeraslave nope they don't believe in the Body and Blood of Christ in the Eucharist
@@jamesrobertson2460
What did our Lord mean when he said, ‘This is my body … this is my blood’? Was he speaking literally or figuratively?
@@jamesrobertson2460 Wrong. At least I who is Lutheran believe we receive the body and blood of Jesus, but at the same time it remains bread and wine.
"they who are at Rome do not observe those things in all cases which are handed down from the beginning, and vainly pretend the authority of the apostles" -Firmilian on the Church of Rome
I had no idea that his debates are available. I purchased this debate today for less than $8 bucks! So worth it!!! I’m going to buy all his debates! I suggest you do the same.
Catholic Truth is the best channel! I’m so lucky to find the treasure ❤️
Thank you so much! We are so glad to hear that our Channel inspires and helps him. May God be praised for this. He is so good! 🙏🙌
@@dannyboy6598 You probably didn't even watch it. What's more scary is you are just like the Pharisees in Mt. 12 who called the miracles and the Holy things of God from the devil. That's the only time Jesus mentioned the unforgivable sin because their hearts were so hard and their eyes so blind. We will pray for you.
Yes!
You guys are SO awesome, you are truly doing Gods work. I`ll keep you in my prayers!!
Thank you! (I like the spelling of your first name! :)
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Thanks, I'm from Ukraine that's why its spelled like that! haha
Thank you so very much for this great program, May God continue blessing you to bring back more of yours gonnan catholics back home. Thank you.
Thank you for posting this video..cant wait to listen. Have bern waiting
Very insightful and am so glad you explained those commonly used scriptures because those are the ones we always hear from our protestant beithers and sisters.
Thank you for this Bryan! My friend is having a debate with a Protestant on sola scriptura and this helped !
So glad to hear it. Here's another video we made on Sola scriptura. Maybe it'll help as well. God bless. ua-cam.com/video/T8cKSCpIDoA/v-deo.html
Praying it goes Well!
@@dannyboy6598 That's so funny, and we feel bad for you that you claim to be a Christian and yet keep lying about that. The Catholic Church loves the Bible and we do too. God bless you.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Sola Scriptura is BASICALLY this EVERY MAN becomes his own Pope. Let's be HONEST who is the arbiter of TRUTH in PROTESTantism?
The debate opponent he mentions around 14:00 was James White....classic......
Having been raised in a Baptist church, I am thankful that I have learned about the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But I must admit that I find Catholic arguments on topics such as Papacy, Church, Mary, Bible, Faith, Eucharist or Purgatory deeper and more compelling.
Glad to hear it! God bless!
Keep seeking, you will find. I am a convert and after the initial adjustment to a new culture, I love the intellect, catechism, teachings, people, ritual. I love Christ's church.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial What is Dispensational Bible Study?
by Shawn Brasseaux
BEHOLD THE CONFUSION: RELIGIOUS TRADITION
Have you ever wondered why there is so much confusion and debate among and within “Christian” circles and churches? These professing Christians all quote the Bible, they all claim to believe the Bible, and yet, it is quite a surprise to learn that they all disagree regarding what the Bible actually teaches! All 38,000-plus denominations in Christendom claim to be serving and following “Jesus Christ,” and yet, they all believe mutually exclusive doctrines and practice opposing rites and rituals. How can they all be following Jesus Christ while all doing different things?! The Church the Body of Christ is supposed to be united; nevertheless, schisms, strife, and contradictions abound. Why?
Let me give you some of the most popular examples of the literally thousands of major arguments in Christendom:
Many churches believe that faith and works are necessary for salvation, quoting Matthew 19:17 and James 2:24; the remainder of churches believe that salvation is by faith alone, using Romans 3:28, Romans 4:5, and Ephesians 2:8,9.
Some groups believe that water baptism is necessary for salvation, relying on Mark 16:16 and 1 Peter 3:21; others hold that it is merely a testimony of salvation, citing Matthew 28:19 and Acts 2:38; still others do not water baptize at all, relying on 1 Corinthians 1:17, 1 Corinthians 12:13, and Ephesians 4:5.
Some churches participate in “snake handling,” “devil exorcism,” “tongue talking” and “healing services,” citing Mark 16:17,18 and James 5:15; others completely reject those practices, quoting Romans 8:18, 1 Timothy 5:23, and 2 Timothy 4:20.
Some churches argue that we must observe the Saturday Sabbath, citing Exodus 20:8-11, while others believe there is no Sabbath day to keep today, quoting Romans 6:14 and Colossians 2:16. (There are even groups that argue that we must observe Sunday, the alleged “Christian Sabbath!”)
Some groups teach that Christians can lose their salvation, following Psalm 51:11, Matthew 24:13, and Hebrews 6:4-6; other groups believe Christians are eternally secure in Christ, relying on Romans 8:35-39, Ephesians 4:30, and 2 Timothy 1:12.
Some churches teach tithing, according to Malachi 3:8-11, while other churches believe that we are not under an obligatory giving system, citing Romans 6:14 and 2 Corinthians 9:7.
Some argue that we should confess our sins to God daily, quoting Matthew 6:12,14,15 and 1 John 1:9. Other groups believe that we should confess our sins to priests, using John 20:23 and James 5:16. Still, others believe that confession of sins is unnecessary because Jesus Christ died to pay for our sins and we are already forgiven of all of our sins, citing Ephesians 4:32 and Colossians 2:13.
Some groups say we are bound to keep the Mosaic Law, using Exodus 20:1-17 and 1 John 2:3,4, while others say we are under grace, not law, citing Romans 6:14 and Galatians 5:1-5.
Amazing huh? All of these groups are using Bible verses to support these opposing views!! How is this possible?! If the Bible has all of these conflicting views, then exactly what does God expect us to believe?! What is the solution to this abounding confusion and these so-called Bible “contradictions?” Firstly, understand that “God is not the author of confusion” (1 Corinthians 14:33). The problem is not God’s Word; God’s Word is infallible, perfect, and completely sound. Sinful mankind and Satan, not God, are to blame for the gross theological errors and false teaching in Christendom. Never, ever blame God for the confusion that Satan and mankind generate using religious tradition and human “wisdom.”
If people would simply use the Bible God’s way, all of the doctrinal confusion in Christian circles would disappear. Alas, people prefer their religious tradition, so they do not care to submit to God’s Word. The Lord Jesus Christ rebuked the religious leaders of His day: “Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition“ (Mark 7:9 KJV). These people approach God’s Word with denominational biases and reach denominational conclusions, instead of seeing what the Bible actually said and to whom it said it. What makes it all the more disturbing is that the pastors and teachers who should be dispelling confusion and doubt are only adding to the preexisting confusion by failing to use God’s Word God’s way themselves. These church leaders only teach God’s Word as their denominational system interprets it, instead of letting the Bible’s testimony speak for itself and mean what it says, where it says it, and to whom it says it.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial BEHOLD THE SOLUTION: 2 TIMOTHY 2:15
If we use God’s Word, God’s way, there will be no contradictions and no confusion. The Bible will only make sense to you if you approach it the way God designed it to be studied (that is “rightly divided”). Read what the Apostle Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 2:15, as found in the King James Bible:
“Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”
The only verse in the Bible that tells you to “study” the Bible tells you how to study it. When you “rightly divide the word of truth,” you are recognizing the distinctions/divisions that God has made in His Word. Through various dispensations (sets of directions), God gave different instructions to various groups of people. (For instance, compare the differing diets that God gave in Genesis 1:27-29, Genesis 9:1-4, Leviticus 11:2, and 1 Timothy 4:3-5.) We must be careful to never insert directions into the dispensations in which they were never given. Confusion results when we combine all of the Bible’s instructions as though they were spoken to one group of people. There are several dispensations in Scripture given to different people at various times and we must never confuse them. It is this very failure to rightly divide the word of truth that gives rise to all of the conflicting doctrines (what we discussed in our introductory remarks).
Let us now discuss the basics of “rightly dividing the word of truth.”
THE TWO PROGRAMS IN GOD’S WORD
Genesis 1:1 KJV, the first verse in the Bible, reads: “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” God divides the heaven from the earth. (This is true even at the end of the Bible, in Revelation 21:1.) Furthermore, God has designed one program to operate in each of these realms. There are two programs in the Bible: the “prophetic program” and the “mystery program.”
The Apostle Peter says in Acts 3:21 KJV that he is preaching that “which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.”
The Apostle Paul writes in Romans 16:25,26a KJV that he is preaching “according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, but now is made manifest….”
Obviously, if words mean anything, Peter and Paul are speaking of two different things. Something “spoken since the world began” cannot be the same as something “kept secret since the world began.”
The prophetic program focuses on the nation Israel and an earthly kingdom (Exodus 19:5,6; Deuteronomy 4:20), where Gentiles (non-Jews) receive salvation through that kingdom (Isaiah 60:1-3). On the other hand, the mystery program focuses on the Church the Body of Christ and a heavenly kingdom (Ephesians 2:6,7; Ephesians 1:22-23), where Gentiles receive salvation without Israel’s kingdom (Romans 11:11,12,25). Surely, if we are to avoid confusion, we must keep those two programs and their respective directions separated (“rightly divided”).
Sadly, most of Christendom combines all of these Bible verses into one program, ignoring the differences between the program that involves Israel’s kingdom and the mystery program that does not involve Israel’s kingdom. Again, this haphazard handling of the Bible is the source of the spiritual confusion and the alleged Bible “contradictions.” They are mixing opposing directions God gave in different dispensations (these directions were not given in the same dispensation).
Today, the Apostle Paul writes that the prophetic program that was operating in the “Old Testament,” the Four Gospels, and the early Acts period is temporarily suspended. We are currently living in the “Dispensation of the Grace of God” (Ephesians 3:2), the mystery program, which the Lord kept secret in the Old Testament but has since revealed it to mankind through the ministry of the Apostle Paul (Romans 16:25,26; Ephesians 3:1-11). Why did God hide it prior to Paul? It was to keep the devil from knowing His entire plan, so Satan could crucify Jesus Christ, and thereby would actually defeat himself (1 Corinthians 2:6-8)!
@@CatholicTruthOfficial WHOM SHOULD WE FOLLOW TODAY?
It is often mistakenly assumed that we need to “follow Jesus” (that is, the red letters of the Four Gospels). Yet, when we consider the Scriptures, this makes no sense whatsoever. Can we sinners follow the sinless Lord Jesus Christ? OF COURSE NOT!
Romans 11:13 KJV says that Paul is “the apostle of the Gentiles.” As previously stated, the ascended Lord Jesus Christ revealed to Paul alone “the revelation of the mystery” (Romans 16:25,26), His secret (mystery) program to deal with the whole world (Jews and Gentiles) on the basis of grace and Christ’s finished crosswork on Calvary. On the other hand, the Lord Jesus Christ ministered to Jews only in Matthew through John (Matthew 10:5-7; Matthew 15:24; John 4:22; Romans 15:8). Jesus had no ministry to us Gentiles because He had to save Israel first! It is not until we come to Paul’s ministry when God begins to deal with Gentiles. This is one basic fact of Scripture that most church members have never been told.
Jesus Christ urged His followers to obey the Mosaic Law, and commanded them to teach others to do the same (Matthew 5:17-19). Contrariwise, God through Paul tells us, “ye are not under the law, but under grace” (Romans 6:14,15). Obviously, we cannot follow both of these instructions. We cannot follow Jesus’ earthly ministry because we are not Jews. Furthermore, “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more” (2 Corinthians 5:16). We do not know Jesus Christ after His earthly ministry (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Rather, we follow Him according to His heavenly ministry (as He is revealed in Paul’s epistles, Romans through Philemon).
God set forth Paul to be our “pattern” as to how we receive salvation (1 Timothy 1:15,16). In addition, Paul writes, “Be ye followers of me, even as I am of Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1). In the Christian life, we follow Paul as he follows Christ. In Paul’s epistles alone we find the doctrine, duty, walk, and destiny of the Church the Body of Christ. Paul is God’s spokesman to you, just as Moses was God’s spokesman to Israel. If you want to learn what God has to say to you today, you must go to Paul’s epistles, Romans through Philemon. To reject Paul is to reject Christ who sent Paul to you, and to reject Christ is to reject God the Father (Matthew 10:40; John 13:20). Paul wrote: “If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord” (1 Corinthians 14:37). The test for spirituality today is NOT following Jesus in His earthly ministry, but obeying what God the Holy Spirit says today through the Apostle Paul.
YOUR CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH THE BODY OF CHRIST
We are not the nation Israel, for in our dispensation, Israel is temporarily “fallen,” “cast away,” and “spiritually blinded” (Romans 11:11,15,25). We Christians are members of the Church the Body of Christ, where there is neither Jew nor Gentile (Galatians 3:26-28; Ephesians 1:22,23). What God has to say to us is different from what He told the nation Israel in the “Old Testament,” the Four Gospels, and the early part of Acts. It is important to understand how your Christian life operates as a non-Israelite, as a Gentile living in the Dispensation of the Grace of God and a member of the Church the Body of Christ. If you want to be spiritually “edified” (“strengthened”) and spiritually “perfected” (“matured”), you need to study and believe the Pauline epistles of Romans through Philemon (Ephesians 4:12).
God wants to “stablish” (stabilize) your Christian life and inner man by using a three-fold process. God wants you to understand the life that He has given to you in Christ Jesus, so that you can better understand what He is doing today, and then you can, by faith, follow Him and do the same. This is how we discover and do God’s will for our lives. The Bible says in Romans 16:25,26 KJV:
“25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:”
Notice the three-fold process of Christian edification:
“my gospel“-Paul’s Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, is the foundation of the Christian life
“the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery“-this is Paul’s epistles of Romans through Philemon, the sound doctrine (building materials) which we use to build on that foundation
“the scriptures of the prophets“-this is all of the Holy Scriptures, in light of the doctrine revealed to Paul.
This is why studying the Bible rightly divided is so important. We study all of the Bible, Genesis through Revelation, but we follow the design of Christian edification as laid out in Romans 16:25,26. If we refuse to follow the dispensational layout of Scripture, and most people do refuse it, then we will be going against what God is doing today, and our Christian lives will be in shambles (which is why Christendom is in such pitiful shape!).
DO WE ONLY STUDY PAUL’S EPISTLES? (NO!)
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Timothy 3:16). All of the Bible is God’s Word, so we study all 66 books of the King James Bible (Genesis to Revelation). But, unlike most churches and professing Christians, we study the entire Bible according to the “revelation of the mystery,” (in light of the Pauline epistles, Romans through Philemon). All of the Bible is for us, but not all of the Bible is to us and not all of the Bible is about us (remember, most of the Bible is written to and is about the nation Israel, not us). We follow God’s design for Christian edification, and we seek God’s approval, not man’s approval (2 Timothy 2:15).
When studying a particular Bible passage, you first need to establish the following, in this order:
1. who is writing/speaking,
2. to whom are they writing, and
3. what are they writing.
Again, keep in mind that Paul’s epistles of Romans through Philemon are what God has to say to you, and the rest of the Bible deals with another program, Israel’s program. If Paul does not instruct you to do it, then God does not expect you to practice it in your life.
WHY HAVE I NOT HEARD THIS BEFORE?
Are you shocked by what you have just read? Does the Bible make more sense now? So, why have you never heard this before? I would strongly suggest that you ask your pastor, Bible teacher, or priest why he never told you any of this. You might be surprised at his answer!
Thank you both very much! God bless everyone!🙏
Hi Patrick, you are a blessing. I have read your books and watched most of your UA-cams. My family and friends in Papua New Guinea love you. May God bless you and your family.
Can't wait to watch. Watch out for all the anti-Catholic comments. Sola Scriptura is a thorny issue for many. 😋😂
Indeed. Some have already started to post them, and they did not even watch the video. Tsk tsk. :)
I'm trying to be gracious as I'm trying to explore and learn but I find the anti-protestant stance equally off-putting.🤷
@@caroldonaldson5936 What do you think of the way Protestants put forward their case?
I am sorry if you find the anti P stance off putting. I apologise for that. Are you new on this channel? A number of the Protestants who post comments here are common on this channel and they have posted many anti Catholic comments - repeated ones as well despite our best and sincere explanation and clarification. After some time, frustration tends to set in.
Carol, was there an anti Protestant stance here? We can assure you that this video was not anti-protestant. It may be debunking a core doctrine of protestantism, but that is not anti-protestant. We love our Protestant brothers and sisters, and respect them in our videos.
@@caroldonaldson5936 As a non practicing catholic I love all my catholic brothers and sisters, I have received much thrashing for preaching the gospel .
This channel is a level playing field.
Some who practice reformed theology really tear into Romanism.
Sometimes on both sides the flesh does take over with agape being trampled on, not good .
I guess total depravity is a reality few tend to own up to .
Should you ever visit Cristian grace and Virtue channel , also known as the Hell challenge channel , here Protestants are slaughtered with measures unheard of in modern society.😁
When we Catholics oppose sola scriptura our critics immediately and incorrectly believe we don’t like the Bible. That is so wrong; we Catholics LOVE the Bible! We love the Bible so much we preserved it so the whole world could read it and grow closer to Our Lord.
Where in the bible does it mention sola scriptura? xD
@Catholic Femininity: It doesn’t. 😊
@@catholicfemininity2126 “Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye” (Mark 7:13 KJV).
A critic once asked me where the Bible taught “Sola Scriptura” (that the Bible, not religious tradition, was the final authority). Although he attempted to trip me up with this “I gotcha” issue, I showed him the following verses, including today’s Scripture, and he has not been heard from since! 🙂
Just as vain religious tradition abounds today, it did in Christ’s time. The Pharisees and scribes loved being religious, but they vehemently rejected God’s Son Jesus Christ, and they made every attempt to hinder His ministry. In their minds, their vain religious tradition, not God’s Word, had the preeminence (Galatians 1:13,14; 1 Peter 1:18). Sound familiar?
Today, most churches relegate God’s Word to a “good advice” status: the Bible’s testimony is only sought if it agrees with church tradition. Myriads of church members only hear God’s Word via a biased (denominational) viewpoint. This happens in “Christian” churches of all places too!
In Matthew 15:9, Jesus said: “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” He expounded in Mark 7:8,9: “For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.”
The focus was not on God’s doctrine and its meaning, but whether or not someone could pacify Israel’s religious body with outward performance (formalism). By cleaving to their tradition, they nullified God’s Word (today’s Scripture). Consider modern-day church members enslaved to a denominational hierarchy, bound to perform religious duty and appease fallible man.
Friends, you either believe religious tradition, or you believe God’s Word. The two cannot and will not mix because they are mutually exclusive: “…Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition” (Matthew 15:6). According to Jesus Christ, the Bible alone has God’s authority, not religious tradition (cf. 2 Timothy 3:16,17).
@@johnflorio3052 By Shawn Brasseaux
“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye” (Mark 7:13 KJV).
A critic once asked me where the Bible taught “Sola Scriptura” (that the Bible, not religious tradition, was the final authority). Although he attempted to trip me up with this “I gotcha” issue, I showed him the following verses, including today’s Scripture, and he has not been heard from since! 🙂
Just as vain religious tradition abounds today, it did in Christ’s time. The Pharisees and scribes loved being religious, but they vehemently rejected God’s Son Jesus Christ, and they made every attempt to hinder His ministry. In their minds, their vain religious tradition, not God’s Word, had the preeminence (Galatians 1:13,14; 1 Peter 1:18). Sound familiar?
Today, most churches relegate God’s Word to a “good advice” status: the Bible’s testimony is only sought if it agrees with church tradition. Myriads of church members only hear God’s Word via a biased (denominational) viewpoint. This happens in “Christian” churches of all places too!
In Matthew 15:9, Jesus said: “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” He expounded in Mark 7:8,9: “For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.”
The focus was not on God’s doctrine and its meaning, but whether or not someone could pacify Israel’s religious body with outward performance (formalism). By cleaving to their tradition, they nullified God’s Word (today’s Scripture). Consider modern-day church members enslaved to a denominational hierarchy, bound to perform religious duty and appease fallible man.
Friends, you either believe religious tradition, or you believe God’s Word. The two cannot and will not mix because they are mutually exclusive: “…Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition” (Matthew 15:6). According to Jesus Christ, the Bible alone has God’s authority, not religious tradition (cf. 2 Timothy 3:16,17).
@@572checo21 “stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” 2 Thes 2:15. The Bible clearly teaches hold to verbal Apostolic Tradition.
WOW! As always great content!
God bless both of you. I am a catholic from the Philippines. Thank u for sharing this video.
Awesome I will watch this ^_^
great show.
If it weren’t for Patrick’s ministry I’m not sure I’d be Catholic. I was a staunch Protestant ex Catholic. The first time I ever considered the Catholic Church could be right on anything at all was when my now fiancé showed me his sola scripture debate. I was shook, sola scriptura made little sense and was antibiblical. After lots of prayer and debates, a year later I was confirmed into the one true church and I’m so grateful God brought me back home :)
Bible truth- Sounds like your the hater. We will pray for you though. Everyone reading this, please stop and say a prayer for our friend Bible truth.
Mike, thank you for sharing your story with us. Praise be to Jesus for opening your eyes and bringing you home. Thank you Lord! May God bless you. We hope you enjoy our other videos as well!
@@dannyboy6598 We are praying for you a lot friend. We LOVE the Bible!
You clearly are biblically illiterate if you think that grace alone, faith alone and God Alone is not in the Bible. In fact, that's all the New Testament teaches. It's Catholics who don't know crap about scripture. During the Council of Trent the Catholics banned The Bible. You are not saved by your traditions or how many indulgences you give to the church
I find a lot of Protestants come in to the comment section of Catholic videos and aggressively display their ignorance of the Catholic faith to Catholics. Why don't you try asking us instead of telling us what we believe. No Catholic believes they are saved by traditions or indulgences and if they do they don't know the Catholic faith.
The Council of Trent didn't ban the Bible. They put badly translated incomplete Protest Bibles on the prohibited list that began proliferating through Protestant reformers due to the advent of the printing press.
You are correct that faith alone is in the Bible. James 2:24 "You see that a person is justified by works and NOT by faith alone”
Great video.
I admire patrick and the wife for the fact that they have 11children...and of course for his work spreading the faith and defending the church...
The fact Patrick Madrid has fathered 11 children is neither a reason to admire or admonish him.That he is a good Catholic apologist is a fact.
@@lorenzobianchini4415 it is for me because children are a gift from God,along with the fact he is a good catholic...
@@winebarimunsi4732 That he has fathered 11 children has nothing to do with being a good Catholic.There are many who cannot conceive or are celibate who are good Catholics and many who are too poor to keep 11 children.Are they not good ???
@@lorenzobianchini4415 It's my opinion and I love he and the wife for that...this day and age it's no mean feat to raise a big family and the fact that they do to me is quite admirable ...and of course it still points to their belief in God...we know how leftists are pushing the abortion nonsense...🙏🙏🙏
@@winebarimunsi4732 It is your opinion nothing more nothing less Take care
So much information...I am literally taking notes😁
Heard quite few talks of Patrick and he is brilliant.
I really hope you will go on video with Norm fields on Bible Q&A I think he wrote you a few minutes ago I think it would be so beneficial for a lot of people
We haven't got anything yet, but we will look out for it.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Look up in the comments just a little and you'll see it. Thanks!
Sola Scriptura made me Catholic. Once this doctrine fell I had to convert! And let me strengthen Brian's point on Acts 17:11 - they're more noble minded because they DIDN'T START A RIOT like the Thessalonian Jews at the beginning of the chapter
Beautiful points brother Patrick and brother Brian. Learning a lot from you guys. I think the big problem is that people tries to make God fit into their convenience and not the other way around. We tend to create our own style, our own God, our own worship. Very different from what Mama Mary showed us in her fiat and do whatever he tells you. She persevered even though she really did not know what she was up against, but only trusting in God fully.
This doesn't have anything to do with the video but I was wondering if you could please make a video talking about residential schools, such as how could such terrible things occur, why did the pope give permission for that to happen, the what the church has to say about it now and things like that. Or maybe give me direction to a video I could watch. These questions have been bothering me and maybe you could explain it to me
What do you mean that the pope gave permission for bad things to go on and in residential schools? We have never heard about this.
Can I see that debate. I need it.
It's on Patrick's website and it's in the description section of this video.
I am catholic from Pakistan, I love your talk on sola scriptura
Welcome Ronald! Thanks so much for watching! God bless!
Are things difficult for our brothers over there?
@@wlg2677 It's really difficult
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@@dannyboy6598 What was the nonsense stated in the video exactly?? What was said that was wrong? The reality is that you didn't even watch the whole or even most of the video, and probably didn't watch it at all and then have the gall to slander the people in this video. 0_o
What's more scary is you are just like the Pharisees in Mt. 12 who called the miracles and the Holy things of God from the devil. That's the only time Jesus mentioned the unforgivable sin because their hearts were so hard and their eyes so blind. We LOVE the bible and will pray for you.
@@wlg2677 no brother
Such a wonderful explanation thank you so much . We Catholic are so lucky and grateful to have two excellent Catholic gentlemen like you two. God bless you .
Just had a discussion this morning with a fallen away Catholic who believes in the Bible Alone
"Time flies like the wind, and fruit flies like bananas"... hahaha It took me a moment to get it.
Very good!
Jenner,
Read each section individually...
"Time flies like the wind" is an age old expression, but there is no such type of fly (as in the insect).
However, there are "fruit flies". Have you never left a banana out way too long, and those annoying little 'fruit flies" start swarming around the banana?
Jenner,
Obviously a very deep question, and one that I can't answer quickly, so I'll start it off slowly...(if I can answer it at all). :-)
First, by "God alone", do you include Jesus Christ as part of God?
Second, when you use the term "following", I'm assuming that you are referring to the Bible as your reference to "following". If so, and you include Jesus as an inclusion, whom do you rely upon for your interpretation of the Bible, when you have questions?
How about we start there. :-)
P.S. Hopefully we can continue our conversation during this Easter weekend, but I may not be able to respond as quickly. Have a blessed Easter!
Jenner,
Rev 1:3 is certainly a truthful verse, in that truly is a person blessed who reads the bible and "tries" to live their life as it is written. With this I cannot argue, nor could anyone else.
I don't want to get hung up on words, but there is a distinct difference between "traditions" and "teachings" of the Catholic Church. For example, as pointed out in the video, where does it say in the bible, what are the accepted books of the bible? Is it only the old testament, only the new, is Revelations one of the books to be included? None of this is included in the bible, so we have to rely on someone to teach us what is to be accepted as truth.
If there are some 30,000+ denominations of protestant churches, who is to say which one is being truthful? I'm not saying that every Catholic priest, bishop, or the pope is always right in what they say, which is why it is up to the Catholic Church, of which her teachings are handed down over the centuries, that we must trust.
As a simple example, as I was reading Judges 12-15 this morning, is Samson a good judge or a bad judge...and why? From what can we learn from his story? (Note: I don't want you to get hung up on this one example, as there are thousands of others to choose from).
You might get 30,000+ variations on this or you can get a single interpretation from centuries of study and wisdom of the Catholic church fathers.
I have come to accept that there are a LOT of very holy men and women that have studied God's word before me and they have lived their lives to write down their wisdom so that I can better understand God's holy words. This is just one of the reasons that I love the Catholic faith so much.
Have a blessed Easter, and my prayers are with you in your faith journey.
Very informative. Thanks for posting. I'm new to your channel, subscribed yesterday. So I have lots of vids to catch up on! I'm Protestant by the way. 😳
Welcome Heather!! So glad you enjoyed the video, even as a Protestant. 😉 We think you will get a lot out of our other videos. If we help in any way or answer any questions you have, just let us know. God bless you!!
@@jennernolast6858 What is this discipline you speak of?
@@jennernolast6858 yeah what is it?
@@jennernolast6858 we have answered your question like three times and other comments can you keep posting this again and again. Refer to the other comments on that please. Or comment on the actual video been discussed here. May God bless you.
@@jennernolast6858 The church evolves.
It has from the start. It is doing it now. It will tomorrow.
I didn't think I'd surprise Bryan but I think I did when I told him about the nun being appointed under-secretary of the synod ;)
Would the singing of hymns also be considered an extra-Biblical practice? For example, we DO have Scriptural evidence of Christ and the Apostles doing exactly that, however, and this may simply be too specific, WHICH hymns are considered suitable according to the Bible? The idea here is that hymn singing is directed by tradition and NOT by Scripture. Thoughts?
Singing hymns and praise and worship is scripture we are told to do so ephesians 5:18-20
@@thehoanifamily971 what hymns? “The Old Rugged Cross?” “Amazing Grace?” How do you know which hymns are to be sung and which are not and when each is appropriate and not? It’s directed by the man-made “filthy rag” (as Prots call them) TRADITIONS. So, even Prots follow their own man-made traditions, and not always the Bible.
Catholic doctrines are so much harder to understand then Protestant doctrines. The mysteries of God are indeed hard to be understood. So glad to be on the catholic side of truth these days. Confirmation happens April 8th.
Patrick looks so different, i almost didnt recognize him, it was the mustache that made me look twice
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The Church is dynastic
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The Church is messy
The Church is Mystery
The Church is teacher
The Church is Mother
The Church is universal
The Church is sacramental
The Church is authoritative
The Church is visible
The Church is unchangeable
The Church is missionary
The Church is the Kingdom of God
The Church is TRUTH
The Church is the bride of Christ.
The Church is the mystical body of Christ
The Church is in the world not of the world.
Bryan can you make a video on if the rapture is biblical?
I second that request 👍
We have an interview coming with a rapture expert who will show that it is not bibilcal. However, this interview won't be for a month or so. But it is coming. God bless.
Which rapture?! Pre Trib Rapture, A Post Trib Rapture or Post Millennium Rapture???
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Oh ok
@@soystudios2778 All rapture theories are unbiblical. You can find them on Catholic Answers if you are anxious for an answer immediately.
Awesome interview👍🙏
My non-catholic friend said Exodus 18:13: “The next day Moses took his seat to serve as judge for the people, and they stood around him from morning till evening.”
Exactly. The Jews believed in the teaching authority of Moses and not the Bible or Torah alone.
Glory be to the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost and Thank you so Much, Catholic Truth for posting this!
Glory to God. Amen!
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Hi ! I am not sure why its hard to post comments. Maybe UA-cam is hard on you? Twice I posted comments to different Protestants but twice it failed to be posted. The comments just disappeared. Nothing outrageous or controversial. But I am not sure its technical issue or the Libtard's censorship. I am sharing this so you know.
@@jeremiahong248 if you post links, it auto deletes I am told
@@spykezspykez7001 Thanks for letting me know. I have seen some UA-cam links being posted successfully. In the past I was able to post links successfully. Perhaps there is a change in policy.
Just now I was replying you without any links but it didn't get posted too.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
Jeremiah, thank you for letting us know. When we are in the office tomorrow, we will check and see if the comments went to spam. Sometimes if people make too many comments UA-cam flags them as spam. If that's the case, we will approve them tomorrow.
Can you do a video explaining why Catholic Bibles are different than protestant Bibles? Someone brought it up at work and I didn't know what to say.
In short, and because Protestants took out seven books from the Bible. So they have an abridged Bible where Catholics have the full Bible. That's pretty much the main difference. We already made two videos on this if you would like to hear more information on it. You have a short version and a long version. :-)
Short version: ua-cam.com/video/v45N2-qkz0I/v-deo.html
Full version: ua-cam.com/video/IL8fG7WPiEc/v-deo.html
Ok thank you for responding!
I will check these videos out
@@Hannahbean25 I would strongly suggest doing research on the 7 extra books that are in the Roman Catholic bible. They were written between the time of the last living old testament profit and the birth of Christ. They were written by ordinary uninspired jewish men as a historical account. The Jews themselves never excepted them as divine and never excepted them into the old testament. Even the very early church didn't except them as inspired. It is very important to do research on this matter before adopting them as part of scripture. It's not that Protestants took the books out of the Bible, it's that the Roman Catholic system added them on what it claimed was it's own athuroty to do so. Protestants in the 1500 simply wanted to get back to the gospel and the truth of scripture without all the dogma that has been added to the church over the many years. Plz just do some research for yourself. Everything we need can be found in God's given Word.
@@mack6429 Rewatch the video. The problem with sola scriptura is the 1000s of churches with different doctrines.
Patrick, what Bible translation would you suggest a Catholic apologist use ?
He would most likely suggest the RSV-CE (2nd Edition, if you don't like old English).
So Brian and Patrick. Another great video. My question is, what do I need to do I'm my life outside the God-breathed/inspired word of God, to enter the gates of Heaven? What should I be sharing with my family and friends, to secure their salvation, that is not included within the scriptures? Again, I hope you guys have read James 3:1!
One thing is to listen to the authority of the Church as Christ said to. But It's not that you have to do anything outside of Scripture per say (even listening to the Church is in Scripture), it's more of how does one arrive at the the proper interpretation of Scripture that will lead to salvation. Only the Catholic church has a final Authority toes interpretation of the Bible. We need the church and the Bible. Both are from God and both are authoritative. But when there's a disagreement on the Bible, Protestants have no way to solve it. There needs to be a final Authority. God bless.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Yes Brian. I know what your church claims. On that we'll agree to disagree. The sad thing is you give no credit to the Spirit of truth and wisdom. Only to a human authority. Secondly, "the carnal man can interpret nothing without the Spirit".
1 Cor. 2:14. God bless you as well.
As he said in the video, "Scripture alone" is self-refuting, because the Bible doesn't say what books belong in the Bible. So, just sharing the Bible with your family IS sharing what ISN'T in the Bible: the list of books that ARE Scripture. It depends on what authority you believe. The early Church until the Reformation believed 73 (or 72, if Lamentations is counted with Jeremias) books, while the protestants threw out books but only kept 66 books.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Very Good. My point was that I can use the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles as recorded in scripture, and never go outside of it to attain salvation/eternity with my Lord and Savior. You nor Brian, "debunked" anything. You just shared the opinions of the church that it's ok to go outside of what is written. Remember what Peter said in 1 Peter 1:18-19, " For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a Lamb without blemish or defect." Thanks for the response. Still waiting for one from an email sent to your website regarding free will.
ironically luther believed revelation was not canonical and wanted to remove it
Ironically Luther was a guy subject to the sins of the world that we all face , he was not perfect , never claimed to be perfect and he never left the catholic church. Denominations know very little about Luther except that he was the one who objected to the corruption in the RCC of his time period. You do not call a council ( Trent ) to discuss which flowers to plant around the cathedral.
Well you have to remember Luther was a Roman Catholic and they've never believed much of the Bible.
John, Luther admitted that the Catholic Church gave the world the bible and taught the world the bible and even that he himself received the Bible from the Church. So, you are a bit confused friend.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Luther was a Roman Catholic. I really don't care what he believed. I'm not a Lutheran.
And yet you deny all of Luther's allegations against the RCC. So you pick and choose what you want to believe about him. Interesting.
By he way, how did the Catholic Church give the world the Old Testament?
The Catholic Church claims the Bible yet most of its man-made traditions and beliefs are either not in the Bible or opposite to what the Bible teaches. Hmmm.
@@johnbrowne3950 Luther started out as a Roman Catholic, but to say he remained one while publicly calling the Pope a pig and demonic is simply delusional on your part. Catholics don't give their names to a new, false religion. Maybe you've heard of Lutheranism.
The Bible made me Catholic
Can you recommend a book for me about this topic, please?
Sure. Maybe 100 Biblical Arguments against Sola scriptura. By Dave Armstrong.
If you would like a much more in-depth one you can try, Not by the Bible Alone, by Robert A. Sungenis
How do you reply to this response to the use of James 1:4?
The second argument leveled against the sufficiency of Scriptures is the assertion that the Bible itself refers to other things that are necessary for Christian maturity such as perseverance, purity, etc. Cf. James 1:4; 2 Timothy 2:21
Some go so far as to claim that Ephesians 4:11-15 states that the apostles, prophets, teachers, and evangelists which Christ gave the Church is what brings about the complete maturity and unity of Christ’s body, not the Scriptures.
Apart from the fact that none of these passages use the Greek words artios or exartizo, this actually proves our point. How would a person know that perseverance, purity and all the different offices that Christ instituted for the Church are essential for Christian maturity if the Scriptures hadn’t stated this? In other words, since it is in the God-breathed Scriptures that we find these qualities listed as necessary for successful Christian living, this then proves that the Bible contains everything needed for the Christian life! There is nothing else that needs to be added to it.
We answered this in the video. First, know where does 2 Timothy 3:16 or 17 say that the Bible is sufficient, complete, or anything else. Second, James 1:4 says: James 1:4, (also see 2 Tim. 2:19-20) and let your perseverance be perfect (téleion) so that you may be perfect (téleioi) and complete (holóklepoi) lacking in nothing. (En medeni Leipomenoi). This passage uses stronger language then 2 Timothy 3:16-17 and would mean that perseverance is all you need based on the same hermeneutic employed.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial you are not addressing the point but are repeating your claim that doesn't refute the argument. Note again what the argument is. Apart from the fact that none of these passages use the Greek words artios or exartizo, this actually proves our point. How would a person know that perseverance, purity and all the different offices that Christ instituted for the Church are essential for Christian maturity if the Scriptures hadn’t stated this? In other words, since it is in the God-breathed Scriptures that we find these qualities listed as necessary for successful Christian living, this then proves that the Bible contains everything needed for the Christian life! There is nothing else that needs to be added to it.
Let me simplify this. Since James 1:4 is in the Bible, and since you would not know that perseverance is necessary to be made complete if the Bible didn't tell you so, this, therefore, proves that the Bible is that which tells you everything you need in order to be complete and fully equipped for every good work. In other words, how did you know that you need perseverance if the Bible did not tell you?
@@shamounian We would know it because Christ taught it as did the apostles. Remember that the oral teaching of these things came first long before they were written down. And hundreds of years before they were canonized into scripture. The tradition and teaching authority of Jesus and the apostles came before the New Testament. So we knew them before the New Testament was written because it was already being preached about. We believe that there is a material sufficiency of scripture, but there is not a formal sufficiency of scripture. The same people who wrote these things also preached them. And in fact Scripture says that there were many things that were not written down are Paul wanted to teach people in person. John also says there were many things not written down for they would fill all the books of the world if they were. So we agree that what people need is found in Scripture, what Scripture is not self interpreting, and it's not open to any private interpretation, worth thousands of different interpretations that contradict each other. So I stated in the video, while scripture is God's Word and necessary, we also need the church to properly interpret it, the same church that had the authority to canonize the Holy Scriptures in the first place. God bless.
Catholic Truth brother know I’m on your side. Just letting you know that James 1:4 is not a good argument and we should therefore not use it.
@@shamounian Thanks for your thoughts on the matter, but all professional apologists use this verse. They use it in debates all the time. Patrick Madrid is an expert apologist and seems to think it's a great argument. I haven't seen it refuted myself. But I do appreciate the dialogue. God bless.
21:55 I think the Rubik's cube is easier!
➨ The Bible ITSELF Contradicts Luther's doctrine of "scripture alone" (solascriptura) The Bible tells us that the authority is THE CHURCH: ...
● 1 TIMOTHY 3:15 The pillar & foundation of TRUTH is the CHURCH.
● EPHESIANS 3:10 10 His intent was that now, THROUGH THE CHURCH, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms,
● 2 THESS 2:15 We are to hold fast to the TRADITIONS we have been given, either by WORD OF MOUTH or by the letter.
● 1 COR 11:2 I commend you because you remember me in everything, and maintain the TRADITIONS even as I have delivered them to you.
● JOHN 21:25 Jesus said & did Many other things that are too numerous to be recorded in writing.
● HEB 13:17 Obey the eldars in the CHURCH.
● MATT 18:15-17
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto THE CHURCH: but IF HE NEGLECTS TO HEARTHE CHURCH let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
The True Church is a TEACHING Church: (to Teach means to impart knowledge that is not presently know....not in writing)
● JOHN 14:26-31
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(To TEACH is to impart knowledge that is not presently known....not in writing)
● ACTS 8:31: And he said, HOW CAN I, (understand scripture) EXCEPT SOMEONE SHOULD GUIDE ME? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
(The scriptures are not for individual interpretation. They need the guidance of the CHURCH. It is PROTESTANTS who are following the doctrines of a man.)
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Luther's doctrine of "Faith alone" is ALSO False:
➨ WORKS, PENANCE, & PURGATORY (All copied from the protestant version of the Bible by me)
➨WORKS:
● REV 20:12...The dead are judged BY THEIR WORKS.
● JAMES 2:18 Faith without works is dead
● MATTEW 19:17 Jesus tells us if we want to enter into Life, we must keep the commandments.
● MATTHEW 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your GOOD DEEDSand glorify your Father in heaven.
● JAMES 2:24 A man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
● ROMANS 2:6 He will judge everyone ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.
● ROMANS 2:13
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
● MATTHEW 7:21 Not everyone who says to me: "Lord Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but only those WHO DO THE WILL OF MY FATHER.
● PHILIPPIANS 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.
● MATT 25:35-40 JESUS tells us to feed the hungry & clothe the naked (good works). He further warns us that those who do NOT will be sent away into the eternal fire., but those who do these WORKS will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
● LUKE 16:19-30 The story of Lazarus and the rich man shows us that the rich man went to hell for refusing to help Lazarus who was poor and hungry. (He refused to do good works)
● TITUS 3:14 KJV And let our's also learn to maintain good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful.
● EPHESIANS 2:8-11 (KJV) Protestants "prove" their false doctrine of "faith alone" By quoting EPH 2:8-9 and they STOP before they get to number 10:
8 For by GRACE are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (most protestants stop here instead of continuing on to 10):
➨ 10 FOR WE ARE GOD'S WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS UNTO GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD HAS BEFORE ORDAINED, THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM.
● 1 COR 9:27 (KJV) (Paul speaking) But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a cast away.
● MATT 12:36-37
36 But I say unto you, That every idle WORD THAT MEN SHALL SOEAK, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE JUSTIFIED, and BY THY WORDS THOU SHALL BE CONDEMNED.
(not by yout faith alone)
➨PENENCE: Protestants reject the idea that they must do "penence" (attempt to make up for the sins they have committed) ● Luke 19:8. Zacchaeus told Jesus if he has cheated anyone, he will repay them 4 times over.
● Mark 2:20 Jesus said (regarding his disciples): The days are coming when the Bridegroom will be taken away from them, and then they will fast.
● Matthew 6:16 When you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrits do
● Acts 26:20 RSV but declared first to those at Damascus, then at Jerusalem and throughout all the country of Judea, and also to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God and perform deeds worthy of their repentance.
● Acts 2:38-40: Do Penance and be baptized everyone of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit. For this promise is to you AND YOUR CHILDREN, and to all who are far off who the Lord our God shall call.
➨PURGATORY:.
● 2 TIMOTHY 1: 16-18. Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus.
● 1 PETER 4:6 The gospel was preached to the dead.
● 1 PETER 3:19 , Peter says that after the crucifixion and death of Jesus, that Jesus "went to speak to the spirits in prison", which means that there is a place people go to after they die that is a prison and not heaven nor hell.
● MATT 12:32 Whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will Not be forgiven, either in this world, nor in the "world to come" This implies that some sins are forgiven in the "world to come" (purgatory)
● also 1 COR 3:12-15 & more in the Catholic Bible: (2 Mace 12:46). “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they might be loosed from their sins”
1 Peter 1:17
Wow, this is excellent! You've done your homework and then some!
😲John 6:29 😲 blows sola scriptura completely out of the water! Discernment given only by the combination of logic, scripture, and mostly the Holy Spirit guidance can save us by showing us who is authorized to teach in God's name and who is not.
Can you do one about the immaculate conception?
try Catholic Answers on that
@@leonardobeneventi8836 Why Try Catholic Answers? We have one here on that topic. ;-)
Little Pizza - Thanks for the comment. We have a video here on the Immaculate Conception that we've already made. God bless.
If someone has 80% knowledge for a exam he needs only 20% to be complete, on the other hand if someone has only 20% of knoledge for a exam he needs 80% to be complete in knowledge. Completeness is not the same as fullness. St. Paul didn´t say you only need scripture and that will be sufficient.
Sola Scriptura does not claim to be exhaustive and God did not intend the Bible to be. God gave Scriptures for what man need to know Him. You have to know that traditions are not exhaustive either and if they are not checked by Scriptures, they tend to turn believers astray and nullify the word of God as the Lord warned in Mark 7.
@@Nolongeraslave The Holy Spirit who guides the Church Jesus started is exhaustive. The question is what is the final authority, the Scriptures or the Church. The answer is the Church Jesus established which has the authority to interpret the Scriptures. Otherwise, you get Protestantism which all seek to go by the Bible but come up with their own theologies and different versions of what they think it means.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
I take it that you had the intention to correct something in my post, but I am trying to find out what from what you wrote. Where do you think I went wrong?
What you wrote is what the Catholic Church claims of itself, and what you as a Catholic believe, or have been made to believe. In my opinion, the Church is much bigger than the Roman institution headed by the Pope and that means we will never agree on their claims as the "solo Church" established by Jesus.
@@Nolongeraslave Mark 7? Really? The traditions of the catholic church are TRADITIONS PASSED DOWN SINCE THE TIME OF THE APOSTLES. Mark 7 is talking about TRADITIONS OF MEN. And that's why you didnt quote it because your argument would destroy itself. I DARE YOU, give us a single verse in the bible where it says ALL OF GOD'S WORD WAS WRITTEN DOWN AND GOD'S WORD IS ONLY THE 66 BOOKS OF THE PROTESTANT BIBLE. that is not in the bible , so sola scriptura contradicts itself
@@shihyuchu6753 How about this: Prove from the Bible alone that any books of the New Testament were passed down from Jesus. The fact is, without the Church there would be no NT. One example: How does one know that Mathew was written by Mathew? The book of Mathew never says who its author was. The only reason we know that Mathew wrote Mathew is via Apostolic Tradition. The same is true of the other Gospels and many other books of the NT. Without Apostolic tradition, the criterion needed to determine which books of the NT are truly "God Breathed" would be unknown and the NT canon would not have been able to be established at the Council of Carthage. The Bible does not tell us which books belong in the Bible.
"All scripture is God breathed and is useful for teaching,rebuking,correcting and training in righteousness. " 2 Timothy 3 v 16
Amen. We agree. But this first is not teach Sola scriptura and in fact disproves it. We debunked this verse in the video. Thank you for your comment and have a good day.
@Graham Larmour. Of course we believe in 2 Tim 3:16. But please tell me where is the Sola in this phrase? The verse only says its good for rebuking, teaching etc but where is the Sola in this verse that says its the ONLY way God's Word is used in rebuking and teaching. Where please ?
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Note also 2 Timothy 2:2, a verse in which St. Paul describes the practical transmission of Christian teaching. "The things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses " is explicitly described as the basis of the teaching Timothy is to transmit. Nothing about the 27 books of the NT.
seems your type always forgets parts of scripture I wonder why..2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV📖
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. And your type rejects works will wonders never cease
By the way they didn't have the NT then
@@teambible7803 Your type typically misrepresents 2 Tim 3:16 to suit your own paradigm. Catholics agree wholeheartedly with this verse. But please show where in this verse says that God's Word is ONLY found in scriptures ? The verse says God's Words are good for......but does this verse says God's Words which are good for rebuking, teaching are only found in the Scriptures? Is your English bad or are Protestants misrepresenting scriptures to fit SS ?
John 21:25 says if everything Jesus wrote is written down the world cannot contain such a book. So since this verse rebukes SS, are Protestants going to ignore it? Same goes to 2 These 2:15 and 1 Cor 11:2. Cherrypicking ?
Can we fix these links in the description???
Which ones specifically? Thanks.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial none of the links worked for me. Thanks for looking into it
You are right, the Patrick Madrid links to his website don't work. All our links to our material work. This reminds me that Patrick Madrid recently retired from speaking, and so I don't know if his website is under construction or being redone. Sorry about that.
Update. So I just went to his website. And apparently he uses a different website to fulfill his online orders. Just for that aspect. It's HolyHeroes.com. I think that's where he said you can find all of his digital downloads and products. Hope that helps.
2. Secondly, this reference to the New Testament is also confirmed in 2 Timothy 3:17, where we find that the man of God is made “complete, furnished completely unto every good work.” The man of God could not be “complete, furnished completely unto every good work” without the revelation that comes from the New Testament. The Old Testament alone could not do this. It should also be noted that 2 Timothy was written towards the end of St. Paul’s life (See 2 Timothy 4:6-8), with the timeframe being towards ca. 65 A. D. (Some historical records state that St. Paul was executed in Rome in about 67 AD., According to ancient sources such as Clement, Dionysius, Eusebius and Tertullian). Hence, given the historical context of the epistle of 2 Timothy, we find that this time frame provides plenty of time for some of the New Testament epistles to be broadly circulated, copied and read by many of the Churches. Thus, it takes BOTH the Old Testament and the New Testament for the man of God to be made “complete, furnished completely unto every good work.” This could not occur by means of the Old Testament alone, which provides us with only the shadows / types of the greater realities found in the New Testament (Hebrew 10:1). The Old Testament Shadows are completed by the realities found in the New Testament. In sum, it takes the writings of both the New Testament and the Old Testament for the man of God to be “complete, furnished completely unto every good work” for the purpose of “teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.”
When Christ was tempted by Satan the Lord responded to the three temptations by saying" It is written!' .. He did not reply saying' well , let me check with Rome first or I'll have to speak with the magisterium.. ' Using scripture Jesus was able to rebuke the prince of darkness . what more potent weapon readily available for all mankind to make use of than God's word. ?
You show that you didn't watch the video because we covered that first in the video and showed why it doesn't prove Sola scriptura, and in fact white disproves it. Yes, Jesus quoted the devil scripture, but Jesus did not quote scripture in everything he said and taught. The majority of the time he did not quote scripture but taught by his own authority. Watch the video next time.
Think about what you wrote. "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that falls from the mouth of God." But protestants don't know EVERY WORD, because they threw away the oral Divine Tradition Jesus taught His Apostles and even threw 7 books out of the Bible!
Great point. --The problem here is that people can and have made up traditions throughout time that do not line up with the Bible. There are two warnings that Patrick mentioned--and he limits both of them to only two books of scripture? Only because the entire canon was not bound together yet? Jesus quotes scripture constantly bound in a book or not. So there were many scrolls--so what? That is scripture!!!
Perseverance means staying faithful to the completeness of the Word. Jesus is the Word.
Complete means complete. These arguments are twisted.
Your biggest problem with addressing those who believe in the all-sufficiency of the Scriptures, like myself, is that you would have to show us in the Bible where the Bible says we should accept other sources. I think you would agree that we must, at the very least, start with the Bible and then go from there. If you could show me in the Bible where it says I should accept the traditions of the Catholic church then I would be a Catholic tomorrow. I would love to provide you the opportunity to do that on my podcast at your earliest convenience. Thanks!
Patrick did show that in the video sir. He gave several verses and gave several reasons for the authority of the church also. Maybe check it out. God bless.
II Thessalonians 2:15: Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold to the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle.
@@shihyuchu6753, can you demonstrate from the Scriptures what specific traditions Paul is referring to?
@@shihyuchu6753, also, II Thessalonians 2:15 (among other passages of Scripture) speak *explicitly* of tradition *and* Scripture. This directly contradicts the unbiblical heresy of sola Scriptura, so how do *you* obey this Scripture?
@@shihyuchu6753, and again, you will not find me, an Eastern Orthodox Christian, arguing for specifically *Catholic* traditions, but you will find me taking the side of Catholics who correctly point out that the Church has always accepted Sacred Tradition. It is Protestant heretics who reject that part of the Word of God in favor of their man-made tradition of sola Scriptura.
Question why do some people say apologists are good and some say they are the problem.
Arguably if the Catholic Church never existed, Martin Luther would never have to start his Protestant Revolution.
You had three Protestants from different faiths together and they DIDNT go after EACH OTHER?!
It's almost as if "all those thousands of denominations" aren't as divided as we've been told.
@@_jtworkman_ the only thing they agree on is their rejection of Christ’s Church and reserving the right to cherry pick the Bible.
@@ClergetMusic You couldn't find an argument made in worse faith if you tried. You know it's not true that that's the only thing they agree on. And are you saying that the Orthodox Churches are not Christ's Church?
@@_jtworkman_ ok. What is your denomination and let’s discuss all the things you disagree on with all the others. Second, no, the Orthodox Churches cut themselves off by way of heresy and schism. They deny the filioque from the Nicene Creed, and in so doing is a sort of Arianism, as it implies that God the Father and God the Son are NOT consubstantial. They are in schism because they refuse to submit to the authority of the Church, namely the Pope.
@@ClergetMusic I'm Reformed Baptist. If there's something you want to discuss, feel free to bring it up. I'm not going to be told what I have to do for you ("let's discuss all the things you disagree on with all others").
Regarding cherry picking, that's not a very convincing statement coming from a militant Catholic. All you have to do is say "THE CHURCH SAID SO!" and then any discussion of Scripture is effectively over, so I'll take that dig in stride.
The reason Catholic seek to disprove and try to explain away scriptural evidence of the Sola Scriptura and say (2 Tim 3:16) (which is pretty clear) is the fact that their doctrines are so unscriptural to the scriptures we behold. and in some places their belief border on the occult and superstition.When man's ideas ,crafted by corrupt Popes and Popes who for Centuries hid the scriptures from their flock(using latin )and telling them that only priests should read it ,have over time influenced the Church to what it believes today certainly you would argue against Sola Scriptura. And so you come up with the idea that the Bible contains the word of God because you can then twist it to new ideas and to what you believe. It was Martin Luther who after diligently studying the word realised how corrupt the Church had got when the Church ignored the Sola Scriptura , and it was the word that exposed it. Had it not been the belief of Sola Scriptura the Church would still be in darkness. One encouraging thing that has happened in the Catholic Church is the fact that the lay people now ,for a long time, have had access to the word of God and we have seen changes in the people's lives. Because the Bible is "living and active sharper than a two edged sword! "To the extend that many no longer believe many of the errors of Catholic Doctrines and lives have been changed! Whereas before the Church was in darkness but now it as light!
Capricorn, there is not evidence for sola scriptura. It's not Catholics who have to explain it away, Its Protestants who have to bite and claw to find some little thing that could possibly prove the Bible alone to keep their man-made religions intact.
2 Tim. 3:16 never says the Bible is the only or final authority. Those words are nowhere. Protestants literally read their preconceived doctrine into the bible instead of reading what the Bible actually says.
The Church did not ignore sola scriptura, Luther invented it. And also went crazy seeing the folly of his man-made doctrine by the end of his life. There were over 230 new Christian religions by the time Luther died all claiming to go by the Bible, all claiming to go by the Holy Spirit and all contradicting each other and fighting with each other. Even Luther was frustrated with is by the end because it's not true and not from God. Protestants are believing something... unbiblical.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial By Shawn Brasseaux
“Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye” (Mark 7:13 KJV).
A critic once asked me where the Bible taught “Sola Scriptura” (that the Bible, not religious tradition, was the final authority). Although he attempted to trip me up with this “I gotcha” issue, I showed him the following verses, including today’s Scripture, and he has not been heard from since! 🙂
Just as vain religious tradition abounds today, it did in Christ’s time. The Pharisees and scribes loved being religious, but they vehemently rejected God’s Son Jesus Christ, and they made every attempt to hinder His ministry. In their minds, their vain religious tradition, not God’s Word, had the preeminence (Galatians 1:13,14; 1 Peter 1:18). Sound familiar?
Today, most churches relegate God’s Word to a “good advice” status: the Bible’s testimony is only sought if it agrees with church tradition. Myriads of church members only hear God’s Word via a biased (denominational) viewpoint. This happens in “Christian” churches of all places too!
In Matthew 15:9, Jesus said: “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” He expounded in Mark 7:8,9: “For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.”
The focus was not on God’s doctrine and its meaning, but whether or not someone could pacify Israel’s religious body with outward performance (formalism). By cleaving to their tradition, they nullified God’s Word (today’s Scripture). Consider modern-day church members enslaved to a denominational hierarchy, bound to perform religious duty and appease fallible man.
Friends, you either believe religious tradition, or you believe God’s Word. The two cannot and will not mix because they are mutually exclusive: “…Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition” (Matthew 15:6). According to Jesus Christ, the Bible alone has God’s authority, not religious tradition (cf. 2 Timothy 3:16,17).
I Myself, as " A Good Soldier of Jesus Christ" ( 2 Timothy 2:3-4) , will stick around and stay , standing steadfast with The Gospel of Jesus Christ and The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, rather than the Berean Bible Church in Dismal Springs , Illinois or Nowhere, Kentucky!! Point Blank and.🇺🇸🇻🇦📖🙏✝️☦️⛪❤️
Paul warned about preaching another gospel different to his God- given gospel of grace and faith, without works of any kind...….any other gospel is reducing the finished work of the cross to nothing...…..and that is a slap in the face of almighty God's free gift.....damnable !
Actually, faith alone is "another Gospel." That's why it wasn't heard of for 1500 years in Christianity. Catholics believe we are saved by grace also, grace alone as Acts 15:11 says, but the only true faith that saves is a working faith that lives itself out out of love for Christ and is obedient to the commandments. You say there are no works of any kind, yet the Bible completely disagrees (See James 2:24 and Mt. 25:31-46, for example. In that last verse, people go to hell for not living out their faith.)
@@Wgaither1 Well, from a Catholic perspective, even if Faith was a meritorious work, which we believe it is, it's all by the merits of Jesus Christ anyways, and nothing of ourselves. So it's still all his work and his grace. He is the one who justifies us 100%, but it's not like there's not a response from our part. We still have to respond and cooperate with Grace. As Romans 10:9 says we still have to have faith, confess, repent, and turn from our sins. Christ will not save us without a response from our part.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I’ve noted in your reply to Gaither you stated co operation with grace , this would include the will to do so .
Unfortunately Romans 9 completely blows this attempt of your reformed Romanism theology out the water , here:Romans 9
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,
and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f]
16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy.
Take note of verse 16 desire and effort don’t play a part in being saved .😁
Andrew - You said you were Catholic but Catholics accept free will, and we definitely don't accept your personal interpretation of Romans 9. Plus, you have to ignore countless other Scriptures, and countless more Scriptures. We are not Calvinist.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial let me correct that statement, don’t play a part in mercy containing Grace, “those that are called”
Is that better for your understanding on my statement, I’ve removed the hard Calvinistic belt and braces out of it 😁”conditional predestination “
The Fathers will .
Does this make sense?
Although the Father can harden or soften a mans heart for his glorification, I believe that the man in question has free will to see the light, pharaoh’s example in Romans 9 was a hardening of the heart, however his free will could of concluded the reality of the living God over the period of chastisement brought upon Egypt at any time .
To consider that no chance absolute is the Calvinist approach .
There are readings with Fathers I’m looking at right now .
If you interested we can conclude with them including proper context of there writings not just simply snippets.
I would really like to see you lads fend off Rabbi Tovia Singer. Keen? It could be arranged.
We are having a Jewish convert on our show hopefully in the next week or so. He's fantastic.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Dave LeBlanc? He'd do too.
@Catholic Truth seriously, Dave LeBlanc if you can get him would really be amazing.
It'll help both camps understand each other better probably. And help me in my doubt.
Read some of the books put out by One For Israel ministries like Refuting Rabbinic Judaism and the one about Moses. They pretty much dismantle Rabbi Tovia and were written to help Messianic Jews in Israel defend their faith.
Why would anyone not want to go by God’s word alone? I know! So they can feel good about your doctrinal error. I can say thus says the LORD WHILE YOU SAY THUS SAYS MY TRADITION.
We want to go by God's word alone, the God's word is not contained only in the Bible. The Bible itself says that Paul's teaching for example was the word of God also. So we have no problem with God's word, we are just saying that the Bible alone is unbiblical. Unless you can show us a verse to disprove that. I'm pretty sure Patrick took care of all of those verses though.
Exactly. Nothing more easy for protestants than declare their doctrines are biblical without even bother to demonstrate apostolic roots like the Catholic Church.
@Ray Rose. Do you notice what you wrote is different from Sola Scriputra? It is correct to go by God's Word alone. SS teaches something different from what you said - SS says God's Word is ONLY found in the scriptures. No where can you find this teaching in the bible. Instead the bible refutes SS by saying if everything Jesus taught is written down, the world cannot contain such a book in John 21:25. Thus the bible tells us God's Words are also found in oral teachings - look at the Road to Emmaus. Jesus taught the disciples and taught for a long time. Scriptures did not record a single teaching from this event.
2 Thess2:15 and 1 Cor 11:2 also refutes and reject SS.
At let’s also be clear: Catholics do NOT say the Bible is wrong, only that the Bible is not, BY ITSELF, formally sufficient for a rule of faith. Christ established a teaching and preaching Church that handed down His teachings for centuries before the Bible was codified. There are also the issues described by others above that the Bible itself says that Scripture is NOT sufficient BY ITSELF.
@@ClergetMusicPaul said, all Scripture is inspired of God and profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction, that the man of God might be throughly equipped for every good work. What more do you need?
All truth necessary for salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in scripture.
Agreed! Just figuring out what that truth is, is more difficult. So many Protestant denominations severely disagree with each other over very basic and central doctrines, like what is faith and what is justification, and what kind of faith saves.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial not all true what your saying about the Protestants belief system. When it comes to salvation most Protestants believe in sola scriptura and Sola fide by faith alone. There could be discrepancies over baptism and the true meaning regards to the Lord's supper . But basically most Protestants believe in the reformed faith when it comes to salvation. Catholics believe in faith and works . Most Protestants believe that they are saved by faith ALONE because God is looking for a perfect faith and works and only Jesus was able to perform that and so his merit is counted as ours when we place our trust in him. He's our righteousness and not ours . It is counted as ours when we place our trust in him . Cheers ☺️
That's just it, they do have different beliefs about baptism, the Lord's supper, what the word "saved" and "faith" means. Calvinists and Lutherans understand them differently. Plus, some say you need to be baptized while others say you don't. Some say once saved always saved, others say no. Some say by faith by works follow. Others so no works and that works are useless. And so on. These are core doctrines that they can't agree on. God bless. Thanks for the comment.
Oh good night. May God open your eyes to the brevity of what you have said in the title of this video. Scripture alone. Christ alone. All scripture is God breathed… not some… ALL!
2 Timothy 3:16-17
We agree, but that changes nothing in this video. According to the Bible alone, how do you know which books are Scripture in the Bible? How do you know Philemon is inspired Scripture for example? Where does the Bible tell us this? Also 2 Tim 3:16-17 doesn't prove the Bible alone. We debunked it in this video.
The Greek word translated as “breathed out” in 2 Timothy 3:16 is theopneustos, and Scripture is the only thing described as such by the Apostles. Thus, Scripture has a unique character as the voice and words of the Lord. It uniquely serves as God’s special revelation, as His inspired and revealed will for His people. Nothing else today is theopneustos, so we can point to nothing but Scripture as the Word of God.
When we speak of Scripture as theopneustos, we are pointing to its divine inspiration. The Word of God written is identical to God’s speech.
Mathew 4:4
Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’
This is what sola scripture stands for , the scriptures cannot be broken John 10:35
The process of biblical inspiration is mysterious, for we do not know exactly how God moved the human authors of Scripture to give us His Word. Nevertheless, we know that Scripture is the Word of God, and so it can be trusted to give us nothing but the truth of God. When we want to know God’s will for us, we must turn to Scripture, for it is there alone that we will find the Lord’s guidance.
Judgement on the authenticity of a RCC doctrine or tradition must be necessarily based on scripture. Any doctrine or tradition that doesn’t line up with or contradicts scripture is FAKE!!! e.g. the assumption of Mary and her sinlessness and calling her the queen of heaven based on the lady in Rev 12, infant baptism, the sacrifice of the mass, confession to a priest, purgatory, indulgences and the list is endless...
A Big YES!!!!
Not everything has to be in the Bible even the Bible states so. Those Catholic doctrines have been there even with the early Church and some even go back all the way to the Old Testament.
@@johnosumba1980 so true.
@@johnosumba1980 u don’t seem to understand the new dispensation of the covenant in the blood of Jesus
@@valentineeyumsama2520 no those are man made doctrines which are less than 200 years old. Why do you think the Bible points you to the Church as the pillar and foundation of the truth and not itself?
The thing that is attractive about catholicism is the uniformity. The DIY approach of protestantism leaves one reeling from all of the various interpretations. Not all protestants believe in sola scriptura, they have modern prophets, etc. Also, why so many christian books and commentaries if the Bible is all one needs?
Brian, please check you volume levels. Either you are screaming, or your gain levels are too high.... You are blowing my speakers with distortion. Patrick's levels are perfect....perhaps because he is such a calm orator.
Sorry about that. >_< I think my gain was too high for this video for some reason.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Love this episode. Watching for the 3rd time to let all of this great info sink in.
Jesus says “I Am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, EXCEPT through Me” John 14:6. Bryan, please have a discerning mind and heart ❤️ especially. Your salvation depends on it! Don’t you want to go to Heaven? What will you say to Jesus when you stand before Him? Knowing that you taught the sheep that He is not the only way? 😞 Bottomless pit? Even fallen angels don’t want to go there
Lol yes amen to that verse! But Jesus himself never taught sola scriptura, or that you can get saved by faith alone, or most protestant doctrines for that matter.
@@jennernolast6858 Jesus never taught certain things directly, yes, but it doesn't mean those things are not present. But with regards to sola scriptura, it is completely not found in scripture. And we will see that as I refute the points you made.
Let us first consider the points that are made.
Objection 1:
Gal 1:9 - As we have said before, so now I say again, If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.
The verse is forbidding the teachings that are contrary (παρ - root:παρά - English: Contrary - www.blueletterbible.org/niv/gal/1/9/t_conc_1092009) to the gospels (ie. a false gospel). Nowhere does it say that the gospel is the ONLY infallible source of authority. It is just saying not to believe in false gospels (like the Apocrypha) and false teachings (like sola scriptura lol) that are contrary to the true gospels that are true. The Catholic Church never taught anything contrary to the gospels/scriptures.
This is what Evangelical scholar/pastor David Guzik has to say about the verse:
"They were turning away from a Person (from Him who called you) as they turned to a false idea (to a different gospel). To turn away from the true gospel is always to turn away from the Person of Jesus Christ"
"But even if we, or an angel from heaven: Paul didn’t care who brought the false gospel. Even if it were himself, or an angel from heaven, it was to be rejected. Any person who spreads a false gospel was worthy only of a particular curse from God (let him be accursed)." - Study Guide for Galatians 1
So nowhere does this say that the bible is the sole rule of Christian doctrine or that all Christian doctrine is found in the gospels alone, it's just telling to beware of teachings that are contrary to the gospels.
Objection 2:
2 Th 2:15 - So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.
This verse isn't talking about words as in, the words that the apostles wrote, many things were unwritten. the term used here for "word of mouth" is "λόγος" which is something that is said, like a word or a sentence. We know this is the case because this is a Genitive noun. (www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.04.0057:entry=lo/gos). So the following question is, what is this talking about?. it is talking about the church tradition that was passed down thru word of mouth. Don't take my word for it.
Let's read early church father John Chrysostom:
"Hence it is manifest, that they did not deliver all things by Epistle, but many things also unwritten, and in like manner both the one and the other are worthy of credit. Therefore let us think the tradition of the Church also worthy of credit. It is a tradition, seek no farther." (Homily 4 on Second Thessalonians)
One more way we can tell that this is talking about apostolic succession is due to the way of how Paul writes. Paul's personal example was a form of apostolic succession. Read the following verses:
2 Thessalonians 3:7-9
"7 For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us; we were not idle when we were with you, 8 we did not eat any one’s bread without paying, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not burden any of you. 9 It was not because we have not that right, but to give you in our conduct an example to imitate."
1 Corinthians 11:2
"2 I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you."
2 Timothy 1:13
"13 Follow the pattern of the sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus"
You can see how Paul does things and asks the people to "imitate" them and to "maintain the traditions".
Objection 3:
Isa 34:16 - Seek and read from the book of the LORD: Not one of these shall be missing; none shall be without her mate. For the mouth of the LORD has commanded, and his Spirit has gathered them
I don't see how this verse relates to anything we are talking about. All this verse is talking about is that the predictions of God will not fail. This is literally what Protestant theologian Albert Barnes says when he writes "The language is here evidently taken from the pairing of animals, and denotes that all that is spoken shall be entirely fulfilled." in his notes on the whole bible.
Objection 4:
1 Cor 4:6 - I have applied all this to myself and Apol′los for your benefit, brethren, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.
This isn't even talking about the gospels lol even John Calvin (one of the reformers) doesn't agree that this talks about sola scriptura. John Calvin says Paul’s use of the phrase “what is written” is probably either a reference to the Old Testament verses he quotes within his epistle or to the epistle itself (Commentary on 1 Corinthians 4:6). I think catholic answers have replied to this verse's misinterpretation pretty well so I will just quote them:
"What is certain is that Paul, in saying, “do not go beyond what is written,” was not teaching sola scriptura. If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest of his theology: (1) Accept as authoritative only the Old Testament writings; (2) accept as authoritative only the Old Testament writings and the New Testament writings penned as of the date Paul wrote 1 Corinthians (circa A.D. 56); (3) accept as authoritative orally transmitted doctrine only until it has been reduced to writing (scripture) and only while the apostles are alive, then disregard all oral tradition and adhere only to what is written; or (4) the most extreme position, accept as authoritative only doctrine that has been reduced to writing.
The difficulties with these options are immediately clear. No Protestant would agree with option one, that the Old Testament is a sufficient authority in matters of doctrine. Nor would he accept option two, for this would mean all New Testament books written after the year 56 would not qualify under the 1 Corinthians 4:6 guideline. Hence, John’s Gospel, Acts, Romans, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, Philemon, Titus, 1 & 2 Timothy, Hebrews, James, 1 & 2 Peter, 1, 2, & 3 John, Jude, and Revelation would all have to be jettisoned as non-authoritative.
Option three fails because in order for sola scriptura to be a “biblical” doctrine there must be, by definition, at least one Bible verse which says Scripture is sufficient, or that oral Tradition is to be disregarded once Scripture has supplanted it, or that Scripture is superior to oral Tradition. But there are no such verses; and as we’ll see, 1 Corinthians 4:6 is no exception.
Option four is likewise untenable because it contradicts Paul’s express command in to “Stand fast and hold firm to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours” (2 Thess. 2:15). Thus, for 1 Corinthians 4:6 to support the theory of sola scriptura, Paul would have been talking out of both sides of his mouth, on one side demanding adherence to the written word only, and on the other urging fastidious adherence to both written and oral tradition"
Read the full article here:
www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/going-beyond
Objection 5:
2 Tim 3:16 - All scripture is inspired by God and[a] profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
Ok..amen to this..no catholic ever denied this..we agree that scripture is inspired by God, where does this verse say that there cannot be another teaching authority?
Actually, JOHN says Jesus says.
John is the most beautiful, dramatic gospel. One where Jesus actually says a lot instead of being documented in doing things.
But unfortunately also a bit of a problem since it is so late in terms of writing.
And clearly there is fiction within...
WHAT? fiction? *WHERE?*
Y'know that bit where Pilate talks to Jesus.... HOW did we get that when NO ONE was there to see and write it down?
Also, John 8. Your footnotes of the bible will even tell you the story of the adulteress is appended in MUCH later and not likely to have been written by 'JOHN'.
WHO were the crowds around Jesus. Remember it's Passover. Not Jews.
I also have the problem with Romans washing their hands of his blood. It's clearly fabricated. Romans crucify sedition. Jews stone people and would not have done that at peach.
How do we reconcile what is fiction and what is not?
OPEN YOUR EYES...
Still, a very beautiful gospel
*ADDENDUM* the antisemitic bits notwithstanding.
Catechism of the Catholic church #432 The name "Jesus" signifies that the very name of God is present in the person of his Son, made man for the universal and definitive redemption from sins. It is the divine name that alone brings salvation, and henceforth all can invoke his name, for Jesus united himself to all men through his Incarnation, so that "there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
@@jennernolast6858 I'm gonna ask you something, if you (plural) are all "Bible only christians" how come you can't give the world the same doctrine even when you all claim to follow only the Bible?
Below are some additional Scriptures which support the idea of Sola Scriptura, which St. Peter introduces to us in 2 Peter 1:3, 4. It should be recognized that because none of the Gospels nor any of the epistles mentioned the iconoclastic destruction of Jerusalem and its temple by the Romans in 70 A. D., with the majority of Jews either being killed or placed into slavery, that the New Testament Scriptures were most likely completed before that event.
2 Timothy 3:15-17: In 2 Timothy 3:15-17 we have an important reference to “the Holy Scriptures,” which includes both the Old Testament and the New Testament. That the New Testament Scriptures are also referenced in 2 Timothy 3:15-17, is confirmed by the context on two accounts: 1. First, in 2 Timothy 3:15 we find St Paul making reference to the wisdom that the Scriptures provide concerning salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. The Old Testament does not include any such talk about Salvation being through faith in Jesus Christ. Only in the New Testament writings do we find the concept of salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Hence, for the unbiased, it is clear that St. Paul is also talking about the New Testament plan of salvation by faith in Christ Jesus (this plan of salvation was revealed in the 1st century Gospels and epistles that were being circulated, copied and read in the 1st century churches).
The people Peter preached to at pentecost were Jews a lot of them had probably met Jesus personally. Paul tells us he was seen alive by over 500 brethren after the passion. So by the time pentecost came I'm sure the events of the last 50 days were fresh in a lot of memories. He told those Jews repent. Change your mind. Believe God raised Christ back to life. Repent did not mean quit sinning as some teach. It meant change your mind? How màny Catholics have repented. Obviously none because they go to confession about once a week. So if repent means quit sinning and you will recieves the gift of the spirit. They don't have the spirit. The confession booth is evidence of that
@Catholic Truth I need your help! My husband is on the verge of converting! But we have an issue. In his Pentecostal and Evangelical churches they CONSTANTLY have new prophets and people who are in churches saying they are prophets. Correct me if I am? Isn’t Christ the closure for all prophecy? Isn’t Christ the accumulation of all prophets before him? Why do these non-Catholic churches allow so many modern day prophets? Is this correct? This can be the straw the breaks the camels back. And this is a huge issue in non-denomination church’s especially evangelicals. Everyone is a prophet. My husband said this is biblical and correct. I said it’s not. Help Brian! We are watching this now
Mormons say the exact same thing. They think they are the True Religion because they have true prophets that still exist on Earth. Other small little sects say the same thing. But Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets as we see in Hebrews chapter 1 and John the Baptist was the last official prophet.
How do we know the Pentecostals have the true prophets and not the Mormons or the Church of God, or anyone else who might claim it?
God can speak and work through us, but there are no official prophets like they were in the Old Testament. The closest thing would be the Pope who is the highest authority on earth because that's what Jesus established and only he received the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.
So many churches claim many things. Many Queen prophet's. Mini cream of thority from God. Many claim a lot of things. But the Pentecostal churches were started by Charles Fox Parham in 1980, so that's clearly not the Church of God. Assemblies of God and the UPC or started even later. So we're talking barely a century-old. Only the Catholic Church goes back to Christ and has his authority and speaks with his authority. So if anyone truly speaks for Christ dinosaur if it's the Catholic Church, the same church that canonized the holy scriptures and put the Bible together as we know it today. That's how you know the authority is legitimate. People accept the authority of the Bible and therefore they should accept the authority that gave us the Bible.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial Please correct what voice recognition distorted in your post. Thank you.
All baptized Christian are prophets in as much as we are ambassadors for Christ, but you must understand that a prophet, in this sense, is just one who tells God's truth. Prophesy remains one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but post apostolic prophesy is considered private revelation. Things like messages given to the Saints and messages from apparitions of Our Blessed Mother or Jesus are all considered "private revelations" so Catholics are not obliged to believe these "post Apostolic revelations". I myself had a prophesy regarding a friend of mine who had a condition that made it impossible for her to have children. A group of us prayed over her for healing from her ailment and I heard an "inner voice" telling me that she would have children. I was able, with confidence, to tell all present that the Holy Spirit had healed her. About a year later she and her husband had their first child and they have had four more since! Her doctor considers her healing miraculous. If your husband likes Pentecostal Spirituality have him look into a Catholic Charismatic group.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial I just screen shot this answer. As a Roman Catholic ( please correct me if I am wrong I hope I don’t embarrass myself) but wasn’t the point of EVERY prophet was to prepare, announce, and for telling the Kingdom of God, the people of God, and the messiah? If Christ fulfilled his father’s will and he is indeed the the son of God- and he revealed all and told all WHY would we need prophets after him. This is extremely damaging to the Christian faith. Very.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial thank you for this reply. I’m working up to getting my husband to speak to you. Cause this is ridiculous at this point.
The woman at the well was a "gentile," as a Samaritan, but she clearly recognized "our father Jacob" and knew the prophecies of the OT pointing to Jesus Christ, the Messiah, because in reality she was an Israelite from one of the 10 tribes of the House of Israel. Likewise, most of the "gentiles" Paul addressed clearly were familiar with the law (the OT) as inherent in their own culture, which is why Paul spends so much time going over the law with them, because in reality both Paul and Jesus when addressing "gentiles" were actually teaching people of the House of Israel (as different from the House of Judah). I agree with your point about Paul in Athens, but not because they were "gentiles," as we take that to mean today, but to Israelites (and others) who had strayed so far from God they had been lost in the earthly wisdom of philosophy as a substitute for the Most High, whom they had forsaken and forgotten.
Nope. There's no evidence Israelites were on the Aereopagus.
@@wms72 there is every evidence. Including and most especially scripture. The so-called jews of today are not true Israelites.
Bible Only makes perfect sense, if and only if, we CANNOT add new books to the Bible.
Or take away book that were there from the beginning
@@samuelwilliams1559 ;
The Catholic Church does not teach that "...humans can overrule the Bible and make up their own rules or Traditions..."
If that is what you have been told then you have been misinformed, and influenced by the many falsehoods propagated since the sixteenth century.
@@samuelwilliams1559 :
The Catholic Church agrees with everything that you have quoted from the Holy Bible.
The Bible is a Catholic book, and Catholics have been reading and praying all seventy-three books since its canonization at the end of the fourth century.
Is easy to point finger as you have proven. No. As a Catholic I don’t condone the grievous harm protestants do to the unity of the body of Christ or their judgemental pastors. It’s part of the protestant psyche to demean us. So please stop judging Catholics like you are so pure. All men and women are sinners. From the most lofty evangelical, Bible pastor or minister to the least of our brothers and sisters among us including you. Everyday at mass Catholics pray, “I confess to almighty God and to you my brothers and sisters that I have greatly sinned in my thoughts and in my words in what I have done and what I have failed to do through my fault through my fault through my most grievous fault therefore I ask blessed Mary ever Virgin all the angels and saints and you my brothers and sisters to pray for me to the Lord our God.” When I was an evangelical we never did that. Christian charity is a two way street, to want everyone to be in heaven not just P’s. Pray for everyone and take that plank out of your eye. God bless you.
Small correction. The Reformers did use the term Catholic Church is a positive way. But in their mind, it wasn’t the Roman Church of the day. There’s a great talk from a former Calvinist on Calvin’s life story.
And that's the problem, they divided it falsely. There's only one Catholic Church. The one that has been here for two thousand years and still exists today. Protestants call us the Roman Catholic church, but in reality, we are just the Catholic Church. :)
Jenner nolast.....What is the role of the Holy Spirit?
Scripture ( 2 Timothy 3:16-17) and Tradition( Acts 2:42)!! Point Blank and.🇺🇸🇻🇦📖🙏✝️☦️⛪❤️
I follow this, meaning I refer to the bible. Otherwise I'm dealing with 'doctrines of men'. There's so much 'talk' in these that again it's leaving God's word.
An interesting feature to me is how the disciples plus Saul/Paul
we're chosen by the Lord and it appears that James was not, but
seems put up by people, rather self appointed?
Some of his views I don't find line up well with Paul.
So, there is quite enough IN the bible to work through without
adding 'doctrines of men'.
Many people just go by the Bible and still come out with doctrines of men. The Bible alone is a doctrine of man.
Proud to be catholic
Amen! Thanks be to God for His church.
In CHRIST alone, He is all sufficient.Feed on Him in His Word.It is the bread of life,it is food for Your soul. Baptism, whether infant, adult or believers are "works" and are not necessary for salvation.
Thought. If you believe in Christ, then you would believe in his word. His word says that you need faith and baptism to be saved. Mark 16:16. John 3:5. 1 Peter 3:21. The Bible is ultra-clear.
Sola scriptural? If that's the case, the first century christians, (up to the fifth century)must have been guilty of this.
@catholic truth would you have some time to email with me about Catholicism I’m a Protestant but I would like to convert but some things still don’t sit right with me about catholosidm thx
Many believe that scripture was not the final authority and has never been such , here is a snippet of antiquity to prove otherwise.
Gregory of Nyssa makes that point above mentioned in a letter to Eustathius.
The Arians claimed that their tradition (or “custom”) ring a 🛎 did not allow for the Trinitarian position. Gregory responded with the following:
What then is our reply? We do not think that it is right to make their prevailing custom the law and rule of sound doctrine. For if custom is to avail for proof of soundness, we too, surely, may advance our prevailing custom; and if they reject this, we are surely not bound to follow theirs. Let the inspired Scripture, then, be our umpire, and the vote of truth will surely be given to those whose dogmas are found to agree with the Divine words. (Dogmatic Treatises, Book 12. On the Trinity, To Eustathius.)
When Arian custom ran contrary to Trinitarian custom, to what authority did Gregory appeal?
The Scriptures YES the SCRIPTURES, sola scripture won the day for good ol Gregory hopefully it does the same for you too my fellow brothers and sisters 😁
The nature of rad trad is a classic example of the overwatered and over fertilised mustard seed 😁
Thanks Brian a great topic of debate always thumbs up brother 👍
What an obtuse reference. Gregory’s entire faith was not based on scripture alone therefore he did not believe in sola scriptura. Nice try.
@@ClergetMusic the issue at hand was dealt with by utilizing scripture alone as against heretical beliefs.
The discussion regards Gregory’s faith wasn’t being proclaimed but beholding scripture as final authority on matters concerning truth.
Your answer is common, give it another try brother.😁
@@andrewdrew677 yes however you are attempting to use the reference to show that Scripture IS the FINAL authority on all things religious. This is sola scriptura right? However, your reference does NOT prove what you say it does. Nice try.
@@ClergetMusic That’s why mariology wasn’t practiced in the early church , the men back then went to the scriptures to validate .
After the fifth century practice of religious order becomes apparent, unheard of in antiquity.
Huge leaps of typology weren’t necessary for a man to be fully equipped, it’s that simple .
@@andrewdrew677 please show us a source that says Mariology was not practiced in the early Church. Also, the modern notion of sola scriptura was not practiced either, so you can’t say that Protestants are just doing what the earliest Christians did. This is because the Bible didn’t exist in the first centuries, not until almost 400 years after Christ started His Church, handing down teachings and practiced through Tradition. You can find Scripture to support that if you want.
St. Peter did not teach or imply that there will be a need for subsequent doctrines or traditions that would come after the 1st century. Rather, St. Peter clearly taught the opposite. That is, St. Peter taught that the 1st century believers were given (past tense) everything necessary for life and godliness and for participating in the divine nature. (2 Peter 1:3, 4). In this sense St. Peter supports the teaching of sola Scriptura, which essential states that the 1st century Scriptures are sufficient for salvation and sanctification of the believer.
St. Peter wrote, “His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us to his own glory and excellence, by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and become partakers of the divine nature,” (2 Peter 1:3, 4).
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition.
Answer this one question Where is Jesus in Chapter 4 of the Book of Revelation and then I will know if you really understand Revelation.
SOLA SCRIPTURA is right because we need to have a continuously miraculous absolute which all accept.
If sola scriptura is correct, the Bible should teach it. So where is it taught in the Bible?
@@CatholicTruthOfficial
consider all the behavior of Apostle Paul
He said something is true them cite scriptures, revelation, tradition which became enscripturated
Sometimes he did, and sometimes he taught by his own authority that Christ gave Him. The other Apostles also quoted Scripture sometimes, but most times they did not. They spoke by their own authority.
@@CatholicTruthOfficial , I hope you are no telling me that inspiration continues today. No man can add to scriptures. The Last book is apocalypsis, and no pope or any man can add to the word of God.
If you had watched the video, you would realize that your passage of adding to the Bible and taking away from it doesn't apply to the whole Bible. That verse in Revelation only applies to the Book of Revelation because that is a direct Revelation by God to John. But even if God inspires someone today, it doesn't mean that it's God breathed in the same way. Or that it's scripture. But God still speaks through his and uses his church. That's why it's the church that has the true interpretation of Holy Scripture verses the thousands of protestant religions you think that have the true interpretation but all contradict each other.
The teaching of Sola Scripture basically says the Bible alone is the only infallible rule of faith and there is nothing else of EQUAL AUTHOLITY along with the Bible. The Church is to uphold this TRUTH. If they don't, then they are a broken pillar.
The differences between Lutherans and Presbyterians or Baptists or Anglicans does not dispute this truth. And Patrick Madrid knows this. He does not bring up his debate with the best of Protestant Apologists like James White for obvious reasons. The Council of Trent anathematized (a term Paul uses in the Bible against those who preach another gospel) every point the reformers were concerned about as unbiblical and had changed the gospel. True to the shrewdness of the Catholic Church, they instead anathematized the true gospel against their false gospel created by the authority of Church over centuries.
Hahaha you’re funny......oh you’re serious? Did you watch this video? No, you didn’t. Did you watch Patrick’s and James’s debate? You’re obviously delusional. You keep regurgitating the same anti Catholic bigotry post after post. Who taught you....I mean indoctrinated you? God gave you a brain, a conscience, and a heart. Use that to guide you, and stop being influenced by deceivers/deceiving spirits. God brought you to this channel. And it wasn’t to “show those Catholics how wrong they are”. Truth brought you here. And Grace will flow soon to allow you to be enlightened by the Truth and Fullness of Holy Mother Church. Viva Cristo Rey!
@@wreckingcrew07
Deal with the issues I raised.
@@Nolongeraslave I won’t. You obviously believe Jesus started a Bible. He started a Church. He gave of us HIS Body and Blood. The Church compiled and preserved Holy Scripture and made the Holy Bible. If you don’t believe in that, then you’re subject to anathema of which you speak. You’re no different than those who rejected and walked away from Jesus(John 6). Jesus let them walk away , didn’t say hold up guys let me explain, he let them leave. And then Jesus asked Peter if he would leave too. Peter and the Apostles stayed. And then Jesus reiterated the same exact thing again back to them. I could go on and on how the First and Second century Christians believed in the Transsubstantiation of the Bread and Wine. Or that they called their Faith “Catholic” but you need to read and do work yourself. You fell into a hole of protestantism. You can dig yourself deeper or you can legitimately pray to God for Wisdom. Pray for discernment and for Him to reveal His Will for you. If you sincerely ask with a clean conscience free from bias and doctrines instilled by men from the last 100 years. You most certainly will be revealed the Truth. God Bless You on your journey.
Hint: Follow the Eucharist
@@wreckingcrew07
Is Eucharist the same as God?
Yes.
Plz make a video about Islam
We have a lot of ways to debunk sola scriptura, the problem with the 80s or 90s catholic apologetics is that they didn't explain the catholic stance well enough. We needed it to unpack it better for protestants.
Even catholic answers does this all the time.
TheEdzy, not True, as Catholic answers does an amazing job refuting the man made tradition of Scripture alone, as did The Catholic Apologists in the 80's and 90's. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@matthewbroderick8756 you obviously didn't understand my comment...
Reason and theology, the meaning of catholic all very good catholic podcasts. Check those out.
@@TheEdzy25 I know that channel, but, Gerry Matatics and Patrick Madrid and Robert Sungenis, did a much better job refuting the man made tradition of Scripture alone, than Michael Lofton did. Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
@@matthewbroderick8756 once again ...you did not understand my first comment. I did not say they did not do a good job on that. They did not explain well the church stance on certain questions they were asked by protestants. They need to unpack it better for protestants ears...
@@TheEdzy25 once again, Patrick Madrid and Gerry Matatics and Robert Sungenis, did a much better job on refuting the man made tradition of Scripture alone, than Michael Lofton did. I do like Michael, but William Albrecht though is outstanding They did refute the Protestant position exceptionally! Can you please provide certain details of what you feel were left out by these Catholic apologists? That is all I am asking! Blessings to you! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is True food and Blood True drink
30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of [his] disciples that are not written in this book.
New American Bible, Revised Edition. (Washington, DC: The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, 2011), Jn 20:30.
*Where does one go to learn of these things Jesus did that are not recording in the new Testament? Answer: History, tradition, the early Church fathers, the Apostles - ie, The Catholic Church!
*If "works" are not a thing as my Baptist friends tell me, then who are they trying to impress by memorizing Bible snippets used to attack Catholics? Where does it say in the Bible to use this book to attack Catholics, ie, "non-believers"? That sounds more like the Koran than the New Testament.
If you read John 3:16 for example there is no argument regarding its meaning. Not everything is ambiguous in scripture. If you apply the argument of interpretative ambiguity than nothing that is written in any book would be comprehensible. That includes my post. I think your guest is drawing a long bow with this argument. One area of ambiguity is when to take a verse literally of allegorically. This is where there often is variance in scriptural interpretation. But not every verse is ambiguous.
Yes, and there are many passages in Scripture that are confusing. Some take them literally, some don't. Some take them allegorically, some take them in a apocalyptic sense. Even John 3:16, we understand its meaning and general pretty clearly, but some people misuse the first to try to prove a once saved always saved Doctrine. Whereas other people point out that the Greek is present tense and so doesn't prove that. Just some thoughts. Even Peter said that Paul wrote some things that are difficult to understand and discern. This is why there are so many thousands of denominations because it's really not that easy to just look at the pages and decipher what it says correctly. Everyone reads it a different way which is the problem.
God in the Bible blesses and curses....successfully. One can go to specific places in Palestine and surrounding areas, and visit places cursed by God in the Bible. They are still cursed. Bethsaida, Chorazin, and Capernaum of Matt 11 come to mind.
Therefore, it is not difficult to understand that God judges according to the Bible.
Does God judge according to Catholic pronouncements of judgment or blessing? Well, the Pope blessed the Spanish Armada...
I see no reason to fear the pronouncements, and interpretations of the Catholic Heretical Church.