Gibson Generation Collection G-45 vs. Taylor American Dream AD-17
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Today we're taking a look at two relatively affordable dreadnought guitars from two reputable manufacturers. The newly announced Gibson Generation Collection features a Player Port, all solid wood American construction, and understated aesthetic appointments. The Taylor American Dream series, barring the Player Port, represents a comparable choice. Take a listen to the demos and let us know which you like better!
0:00 Intro/Specs
11:12 Demos
16:07 Final Thoughts
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Back in the late 60’s early 70’s, hippie days, I lived not far from a small custom guitar shop on College Ave near San Diego State University, the name of that shop was American Dream. American Dream was a forerunner to Taylor Guitars. I believe Bob Taylor along with Greg Deering of Deering Banjos and others worked there in their early musical instrument careers. It’s amazing the talent that came out of that shop. I use to stop in, browse, and dream of playing or building guitars. So pleased to see the Taylor line of American Dream Guitars, fitting salute to that tiny shop on the corner of College and Adams Ave.
Wow that is awesome
Love my AD17
Great history. Every day grows my love for this taylor guitar. The only lack is the pickup. Too difficult to setup. Es2 is a mess
AD-17 all the way. Every note kind of jumped out!
Yes, we love comparisons. You guys do it pretty well. Thanks 👍
Hey, I really appreciate the comparisons you guys do. Thanks!
Man... these are both very beautiful guitars.. id be stoked to get my hands on something of this quality
I love Gibson acoustics, but here Taylor is the clearer, crisper, bolder winner
I'm partial to Gibson in general, but that Taylor sounds so much more even and intonation seems better too. Some of it might have been that all the Taylor's volume was going out the main soundhole and half the Gibson volume was going out the side port, which could have affected Chris's playing. That's speculation, but I can relate since I know it would affect my playing. Or it could be the V-bracing, which really is kind of amazing.
Thank you for the comparison. I appreciate the content you guys put out. I would love to hear a comparison between the AD 17 and the FGX 3 considering their price points. Or if you played them both… what are some of the tonal differences to your ears? Thanks again.
I got a G45 in early October and love it! Then I started seeing videos on UA-cam shitting on it. I still love mine! I got a Masterbilt Texan a year ago and this is my second all wood guitar. Love both of them. When my G45 is out of the case, I constantly find myself wanting to pick it up and play. Great video- you guys have been very helpful to me!!
I'm biased as a AD27e owner, but I think this comparison reinforces my choice. The Taylor just sounds fuller and more well balanced to me. Nice job on the video, and I'll be visiting your store for sure when we travel to Texas in March.
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I would likely choose any high end Gibson over a high end Taylor because I am a sucker for classic tones, but to my ears (albeit through an average pair of computer speakers) the AD-17 sounds more like I would expect a Taylor to sound than the G45 sounds like a Gibson. You make the G45 sound good for sure, but to me it has more of a generic tone I could probably get out of less expensive options. I would also tend to trust Taylor quality control more on their less expensive models than Gibson. In this comparison I would go with the Taylor.
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I have a 1930 Gibson L-0 that belonged to my grandfather. The side is busted, the top is warped, the frets have deep grooves and even the fret board has huge dips in it. It is almost impossible to play, but it still sounds amazing!
Save some money and take it to a Luthier!
I thought you guys or maybe Casino said on a video recently with these new Gibsons that Martin also has something new in this price range coming out as well? I'd love to see what they have cooking up there.
I’ve seen this Gibson advertised more on social media than any other guitar from Gibson! Did the sound hole on top make a difference? The AD17 has better mid and low end response therefore warmer.
Agree , thru headphones, the AD 17 has better clarity and note separation. Gibson has the thump though! I see a lot of you tube artists using the ADs . Price- quality- sound balance must be just right.
Coincidently I visited a new local guitar shop yesterday that had both of these guitars hanging on the wall and I was able to test each. I am historically a Taylor guy, and while I dont have anything against Gibson I like how their acoustics have always sounded but never liked how they felt. This Generation series feels different to me and I like how it feels. Both of these guitars sound and feel good. I would still go with the Taylor here simply due to Gibson's new hole on the side. The actual hole idea is fine, but not new, and that's what I cant get past because to me it seems so ordinary and copy cat and doesn't really relate to what I expect from a company like Gibson on a new model like this. IMO I feel this new series would sell more guitars if Gibson omitted the hole and gave extra attention to other areas.
Gibson first designed the player port in 1964. Who are...were...they copying?
@@Blkojo There is a difference between 'design' and 'invent'. I think its well enough documented that Gibson designed a concept sound port into a Gibson guitar in the early 60's that remained in their archives till 2021 at which time Gibson did trademark 'Player Port' to protect their branding of the cool new name they tagged to the new Generation model guitar and use of a sound port. That doesn't mean Gibson invented the sound port. Its no different than the sound hole on top of the sound board. There's not a single piece of Gibson marketing that states Gibson invented the sound port, but their savvy marketing does tout design, concept, innovation. Sound ports have been incorporated into acoustic guitars for several decades including preceding Gibson's own 1960's 'design'. I don't think Gibson should get credit for their 1960 variation of something that already existed that they parked in their archive for several decades while other guitar makers leveraged their own designed sound port in production for multiple decades and then Gibson comes out in 2021 and makes it look like they invented the port. That simply isn't the case. Let see if Gibson starts filing lawsuits now against every guitar maker that incorporates a sound port, it would be just like them to try that and lose just like they always do.
@@shaneroberts9466 I never said they "invented" it, merely that they designed it 58 years ago. You said they copied someone so who did they copy? And, if they did, why does it matter? Builders still copy Martin to this day. Well, better Martin than Taylor.
@@Blkojo I'll step in - Gibson copied many high-end builders who have been including side ports for the last ten years or so. Breedlove's Solo series also comes to mind. That being said, there's nothing wrong with that. I played the G-Writer just a few days ago and loved it - frankly, the first Gibson I ever played where I felt like I'd like to take it home (not that I've played that many). I've also played a few of the Taylor AD series - some were outstanding, while others were not.
Do you have access to the 314ce LTD Last of Us edition?
They started selling it here in Europe today and I‘d love to hear about the differences and details.
I bought the Gibson G45 and it sounds incredible, especially for the price. It's also fun to play and the sound port on the top of the guitar puts the sound in your face, enhances the sounds projection and the guitar is incredibly loud. Great job Gibson.
I just bought g45 and i regret it. Should have bought taylor instead. Worst craftsman ship for price point. Did u check inside the sound hole. Its messy work inside
Check out Driftwoods review where they cut one open.
@@DaltonPhantom gibson is joking on us
How about a comparo with the Gibson, Taylor, and Martin in these price points, the Martin 15,16 and 17 series would compare well with this. What say you?. It would be interesting. I enjoyed the comparison here. Well done.
Both awesome guitars. You guys really should try to carry Seagull acoustics.
Can you compare the taylor gs mini and the gibson L series?
Beautiful and great tone quality.
This was a very helpful comparison video. I can hear a subtle chorusing effect on the Gibson, and I don't like it. I imagine the extra sound hole gives the guitar less focus. Also, I don't think I'd enjoy having the sound project directly at my face like that. I love my 2001 Gibson J-100, but I'm not happy Gibson put a hole in the side of their most affordable guitars. I wish it had been was optional.
Dang that's a tough one, I'm thinking the Taylor might sound a tad warmer maybe the gibson a bit more bass, hard call they both sound amazing 👏
Thanks for the great A-B - I had an AD17e - took it back to the store, paid my restocking fee and today I bought the G-45 -happy, happy, joy, joy!!!
Planning to get the g45 and g00.i already have a Taylor 🤟
This faux tortoise joke is right up my alley :D Cracking so hard :DD
The eucalyptus is not endangered and smells pretty good.
Maybe the SDC 13? I believe it’s $1395 retail
The Gibson has a tinny sound maybe it’s the strings. Really like the Taylor in this one.
My 517e has the the strap button on the neck which the early 517's had!
Nice looking guitar. Good luck everyone.
AD sounds fuller, warmer and richer (more overtones).
Just purchased Taylor's AD21e!
Would have like to seen a Martin dreadnought thrown in as a third....edit, thought the Taylor had a more harmonious, soulful, easier to play sound...
«Try it in the store»…. I’m a lefty and and really look forward to that posibility…🤷🏼♂️
I’m diggin the Taylor
I played the Gibson G writer yesterday . It was the best sounding and playing guitar in the show room . Didnt expect this after reading such poor reviews . Sounded like an expensive Taylor for half the price . I normaly play Gibson J45 standard so this is a totally differant guitar than traditional Gibsons ,but very nice if you like Taylor sounding guitars
While I like the reserved and drier character of the Taylor- this Gibby just sounds more emotive and good to me. Probably an unpopular opinion.
Look at Driftwood's review of the Gibson where they cut it in half and see how it's made. Really bad job inside the Gibson! Taylor is immaculate inside and out.
I was really wanting a G-45 and then they cancelled them. So I was going to buy one of these until I saw the Driftwood analysis. No chance now.
Ehh driftwoods reviews are all biased, dudes always making huge deals of irrelevant details so he can promote his own guitars.
Yeah my dad had a g45 on order. I dunno why because he has a bunch of guitars and I own a j45 standard. He could play it any time. However, he had 1 on order from the previous season. Went to pick it up and saw the new players hole and proceeded to get his money back....
All in all, the ones that were made like the old j-15 are/were great. This new one....
I love how ppl see a video of a guitars supposedly bad construction and let that trump what their ears can hear is a quality sounding instrument.
The grain on the top of that Taylor is really far apart. Is that really low grade wood?
ofcourse, its their "affordable" series.
No, not lower quality. The AD series are using woods that have more cosmetic character than they use on higher end models, but not lower quality in terms of structure or tone.
Surprising how much I hate how the G45 sounds but love the J45, I'm thinking about AD17 blacktop or a Martin dreadnought but am not sure
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I'd be into a CEO cage match.
I love how the AD17 sounds! Gibson sounds good too, but If it was my money I would go for the Taylor, sounds great, looks better and Taylors are made amazingly.
That Taylor .. 👍
A doesen’t fair battle, taylor its a crazy weapon!!!!
Гибсон конешно хорошая! Это целая философия! И Тэйлор тоже хороший! Дело в том что вы хотите сами, это 2 отличных инструмента. Главное уметь играть на них !
where do I get that sick green hat?
The Gibson has a 'drier' sound. 💪🏼
I have the Gibson Deluxe J45 with rosewood back n sides, Sitka spruce top and an Lrbaggs anthem and its out of the earth. I d love to have one G45 too. Gibson till the end!
I love Taylor and I have an 814ce but on this one I prefer the Gibson!
Very similar in sound. I think the main difference is due to the relative scale lengths
I have a Gretsch Rancher Falcon Jumbo Acoustic paid $729.00 in 2020 and it sounds just as good as the Gibson and Taylor
Taylor sounds better to me by a mile. The treble side of the Gibson sounded tinny and thin. The Taylor sounded richer, fuller and without harshness.
The harshness in the gibson actually comes alot from the soundport. If you cover it, it takes away alot of the squecky tinny frequencies
Surprisingly, the Taylor sounds warmer than the Gibson. All these new Generation Gibson’s sound brash and scratchy to me.
I think the brash sound is a lot to do with the Walnut. I don't think that extra sound hole does much for the bass either haha I don't know for sure but just a thought.
I much prefer the sound of the Taylor!
Something about the way the Gibson plays and sounds stood alone to me in comparison to a plethora of comparably priced Taylors and Martins.
The Gibson sounds nothing like that in person. Very disappointed in the G series. Love high dollar Gibsons, not these. The AD-17 on the otherhand, though it doesn't quite live up to a 717, is a very nice guitar.
I prefer the Gibson. Has a clearer more sparkly sound to me. And it you're ripping off a solo, I imagine it would probably project better. I tried this guitar in the store and was quite impressed with the port. It gives the player more feedback as to what somebody listening in front of you would hear. I'm either going to buy the g-writer, or the g-200 EC. I like the cutaway for soloing.
I always felt Taylors were too bright but compared to the Gibson, this one sounds well balanced and warmer. The Gibson sounds “cheap” and “plasticky”.
The original G45 they discontinued a year ago was 1199.00 with fishman and a luxury Gibson hard case. Too much guitar for the money, oh and it is bound front and back. Sound of the original is better with a pick up and case.
Taylor all the way!
If you're thinking about buying the Gibson check out the Driftwood Guitars teardown before you do.
Too bad Gibson didn’t make that sound whole on the side round. It would have made a good cup holder.
I love Gibsons but that Taylor wins without question.
See Driftwood Guitars video on this...
And what ?
Go and try the G45 :)
I bought the the guitar after i saw the Driftwood review.
Please watch driftwood guitars on the G 45. A brutal review ...you might want to change your mind on how you spend your money.
I watched the review and still liked the G45 and bought one.
With the G45 being about $1200 and the AD17 being about $2000 the Taylor offers way less than the Gibson. A better comparison would be the J45 Studio Walnut vs the AD17. Taylor is bad with giving value. Even their $1000-$1500 guitars have layered backs and sides when most big companies give solid wood in that price range. I would never buy a Taylor.
AD17 is priced $1800. G45 around $1200. 50% difference puts them in different product categories, making this a nonsense comparison. The price-points just don't line up evenly but the newer Taylor 117e is really the direct competitor to the G45. Both stripped down appointments and lighter cases. I would say the J-45 Faded $2300 probably the nearest comparison to the AD17... Please compare products that are within a reasonable 5-15% price difference of one another, doing odd comparisons like this given the gap makes it feel agenda driven, but of course we know vendors like to incentive these sort of comparisons and it's suspicious this same G45 vs AD17 comparison keeps popping up on UA-cam. Don't think we're not on to you Taylor.
Yeah. Good old drift-rot. Sad when he deliberately flubbed notes to try and make it sound like shit.
If you are searching for a guitar with this body shape search for Sigma SJM SG45...way better value for the money imo. Don't pay that prices just because your instrument is made in the U.S.!
Sorry, but the soundhole in the side is a deal-breaker for me. I wish they would stop making gimicky crap and concentrate on building a well-made instrument that is affordable!
I agree 100%
Yeah, I agree. Just make a good sounding, good playing guitar without the gimmicks.
I like the player port and is a reason I would consider this guitar. If you don't like it, just don't get the guitar. You literally have the entire rest of their line-up to pick from if you are not interested in having a player port.
Really man , over 1000$ and the best they can do is a basic finish with no binding no nothing..oh but it has a “Taylor and Gibson Logo” get out of here..😂 Love you guys but these basic guitars aint it, For 900 you can get an Epiphone Humming bird that sounds out of this world
Epiphone bird doesn't touch that Taylor in sound quality and playability. Different league entirely.
I think the Gibson is brighter because it's made of garbage and all you hear is strings. My daughter has a My Little Pony guitar that sounds the exact same.
Planning to buy the g00,and g45,I already have Taylor 🤟
Neither, thank you. The Taylor drowns in over tones (As Taylors tend to do.)The G-45 is is overpriced and sonically quite shy of my J-45. I do love short scale, more for the tone than the ease of play.
All are inferior to Martin.
The Gibson G45 is a piece of junk, badly finished and super expensive for what you are getting. Even cheap Ibanez guitars are better value for money. Shame on you Gibson.
The Gibson name is badly stencilled on the headstock , almost all of the bracing on the sound board doesn’t go all the way to the edges or kerfing , no binding on the guitar to protect the edges. Bad
It looks like you saw the Driftwood review..
I recommend you to go try the G45 and have a solid opinion.
Great guitar.