Mike Tomlin Confirms He Isn't Leaving Steelers, How Can They Turn It Around? | Pat McAfee Reacts
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I’ll bet you $1 million the Steelers and cowboys both make first round exits again next year.
I don't think the Steelers will make the playoffs next year
As a Steeler’s fan it’s been way too long since we’ve had a playoff win. The standard cannot remain the standard.
Last time we made a big move we got fitzpatrick we should make a big move offensively
Tomlin's been there nearly 2 decades and he doesn't have a single coach under his "coaching tree" - successful or not. That's absolutely wild to me.
Nailed it. Our assistant coaches and coordinators aren’t qualified. Almost always get promoted from within
This take nailed most Steelers fans issue with the guy. Just good enough to not be great.
I think a lot of Pittsburgh fans are frustrated because it seems like the media and fans of other teams who don’t actually watch the Steelers every week talk about him as if he is someone who wins a playoff game and makes a deep run every year, and not someone who started at 5-1 in the playoffs but is now 8-10 all time in the playoffs and hasn’t won a playoff game in 7 years
How can you win a playoff game with an old ass Big Ben and then have 3 trash ass qbs? What other coach can do what Tomlin do ??
@@desmondjones5008 Ben’s primes was from 2010-2017 and they didn’t win anything then, and what does Tomlin not do? Lose? He doesn’t win playoff games either anymore. As for quarterbacks, one was drafted by him, another brought in from free agency by him, and the best of the 3 was someone who had been on the team for years and he didn’t play for whatever reason
Pittsburgh is sick of the weird national standard for Tomlin of "well, ne never had a losing season!" like that is some standard. If Alabama or Georgia hired a guy who went 7-5 every year, they would be gone. The goal is playoff and super bowl wins, not being mediocre.
Tomlin might rally his players and they like him, but his style of play is out of date. He strangles his QB's and demands no turnovers, which is impossible if you want to throw and score a lot. Defense first and running the ball does not get it done anymore, especially when your lines are bad. And this year was the first in ages they drafted a lineman on either side of the ball. If you want defense and running, you should draft high quality lineman or get them, and he doesn't do that either.
I've noticed he's obsessed with "taking care of the ball", to the point where he's willing to have an abysmal offense as long as they don't turn over the ball.
If you thought it was going to turn out different you got tricked again. TEs running wild through the defense since 2016. Where did you think Buffalo was going to throw the ball after Pickens fumble? I was watching with my father in law, and after the fumble I said watch this, TE seam route down the middle for a TD.
This is the issue with Tomlin, I have NEVER seen a defense tailored to their opponent. No new looks, no schemes, no changing it up…. nada. Its like they watch zero film. If you went back when Buffalo was 6-6, and look at what propelled them to their great finish it was two things.
They started running the ball more
Allen started using both his TEs a lot.
Less targets to Davis and Diggs, more multiple TE sets.
Buffalo’s TEs over the last 5 games of the season:
Dalton Kinkaid: 27 targets, 18 catches, 199 yards
Dawson Knox: 10 targets, 7 catches, 84 yards, 1 TD (he missed two games)
Stephon Diggs only had 39 targets total.
All others like Gabe Davis and Shakir were irrelevant
So 36 targets to TEs and 39 to Diggs? Where do you think they were going to throw the ball? Now I am just a guy and a computer and I knew where the ball was going, especially since there is a huge neon sign hanging over Tomlin’s D saying “Throw to the TE over the middle”. Everyone knows it, everyone attacks it, and Tomlin has no answer.
There were two more TE touchdowns (almost). Kinkaid was wide open again but Rowe just got his fingertip on the ball. (Sign that guy by the way…)
And they other was a solid play by Jack, but why he is running 30 yards covering Knox is a flawed designed in and of itself. But that is the design of the Tampa 2. Its not like middle linebacker was a weakness of this team.
Same coach, same D, zero planning, zero surprises, nothing. Still one of the worst game planners and game day managers there is. Again, we have experienced a playoff win in FOUR of his 17 seasons. FOUR !
And don’t get me started on keeping three time outs in his pocket heading to halftime…. again… for the millionth time.
We are stuck in a nightmare that has no end. The excuses come and go and everyone is expected to bow down to the Ruler of the Land of Mediocrity. His throne sits at the corner of One and Done Avenue and Debacle Row, a block away from the Shrine of the Non-Losing Season.
Well said
Nailed it !!!! Every year same Tomlin
This defense is the highest paid in the NFL. They can get sacks but they get shredded...on the ground and in the air. A piss-poor allocation of money.
The majority of NFL franchises have won a playoff game since the Steelers
But we have a “no losing seasons” title that can never be taken from us. 😆
How many of them won a Superbowl?
That`s not the question here. A superbowl win in a decade is the actual discussion.@@bmslhs
We keep making the playoffs though... Oh sure, we lose in the wildcard when we have either Ben's corpse or "just some guy" at QB. But we also make the playoffs.
I thinks it's around 20 teams at least..If tomlin gets an extension almost every team will have a playoff win by the time the steelers win one
Year 10 of "we just need an OC and a few Offensive Linemen".
I think our O line is serviceable tbh. You can see that they started playing better when Rudolph stepped in and didn't run into a sack every other play. But we have the worst DC in the NFL, we had the worst OC for 2.5 years, and we have ownership who doesn't pay good players.
ZERO playoff wins in 7 years, 3-9 in last 12 playoff games
What would you rather have? Non losing season? Or playoff wins?
😂 1:00
Can’t get one without the other 🙄
Hell ya
Are you telling me that you’d be willing to give up being the undisputed Kings of Mediocrity for a few playoff wins and maybe a Super Bowl appearance or two? That’s ridiculous…or at least the media talking heads, like McAfee, believe that it’s ridiculous.
@@scottmichaels12 Pitt native here: McAfee & the bearded clown will shill for their beloved Saint Mike. My, my, my; what happened to that edgy show boyz. Oh yeah, tens of millions of ESPN bucks can do that...
OVER 30 points given up in 5 straight playoff games.... GOT TO GO!!!!!
It’s amazing how they talk about someone who has gone 3-9 in his last 12 playoff games as if he’s this all time great coach just because he can somehow scrap by off of 9, 10 wins a year
The fact the Tomlin is still the hc should tell you how passive and content with being a mediocre team the owners are, every team that wants to win championships makes agressive decisions on all levels. But the Steelers and a lot of the fans are happy having a guy at hc that has done nothing other than having the most overrated stat. We will never win a sb or even get close to one with him at hc and its just sad cause we have the best defensive player on the league in TJ and we are just wasting his career. Next season is going to go the same way, we either finish with a winning season miss the playoffs or make it and get embarrassed like we always do
It doesn’t matter who is the QB at Pittsburgh. Tomlin had a HoF QB and never made it to the SB once in the last 12 years. Another banner for a winning season in the Steelers trophy room.
Agree totally: what NO ONE is discussing is this underperforming DEFENSE. Highest paid D in the league. And I have to be SCOLDED by TJ & Cam, two bloated salaries to boot with injuries galore, that WE need to back Saint Mike. Count me out ( 55 year fan, grew up there & Pitt grad)...
@@VonPitt84i mean i agree with cam but im also cool with letting cam ride off into the sunset when hes readys he's given 15 years to this team he earned it. When it comes to TJ hes the best defensive player in the league its not even a question you keep him around no matter what. He really isnt even that injury prone. Hes only missed significant time last year so bloated injuries is hilarious are you sure your even a real fan?
@@yencha6524 You missed my point Stencha; I'm not going to let ANY player dictate who should be the HC of the Steelers; Cam, TJ, anybody...Regarding my loyalties: look Skippy, I was rooting for the Steelers before Chuck Noll was the HC, Pitt native, Pitt grad...shoo fly
@@VonPitt84😂😂😂 Boy ur really pulling out ur credentials like it should make you opinion valid where's Mikey and Bob to read over ur credentials!🗣 DOUCHEBAG
@@VonPitt84calling tj watt salary bloated when get is the best defensive player in the league invalidates everything you say.
Get ready for another season of underperforming against bum teams, a secondary that can’t get picks to save their lives, and the INTs we do get are only from terrible passes from qbs, a offense that is never consistent, a non top 15 qb unless we trade/draft one, finally another season probably going 9-8 and messing up our draft picks for the 17th year in a row
Such a great leader of men! Team gets blown out 21-0 in the first half.
Outscored 66-0 in the 1st Quarter of the last 5 Playoff games...all losses.
And yet PIT keep making the playoffs somehow. Weird, eh?
@@lostalone9320 when was the last time they won a playoff game? Guess we should just hang a regular season 16th best team banner
The standard is the standard 😂
@@lostalone9320Mid Dumblin is .444 in the playoffs😂
Hey Tone, just “lower your expectations “😂
0:07 What's up with Tone calling him Coach T-Bag? 😂
I don't get the excitement...... Winning 9 games with no playoff success IS A JOKE.... fake success
The simp like applauding 😂
Give me a break.
They are obligated to sing Tomlin’s praise in the face of all criticism.
The standard went from championships to 9-8 regular seasons. 5 straight playoff losses. Hasn’t even sniffed the Super Bowl since 2010.
He’s the greatest coach ever just because he does enough to not get fired and not an ounce more.
I got my ticket to the non losing season parade 😂
Yeah, we need to start hanging banners and giving the players rings. The Undisputed Kings of Mediocrity!😂
I just put up my Non-Losing season banner for the Divisional Round
At what point is it not the head coaches fault. People keep talking about change and we need new coordinators and yady yady yady. I'm sick of it. I really like T but it's time to hold him accountable. Maybe it's for that "change" to be a new head coach
For 10-15 years, we've had to watch the Ravens draft well, and crush FA.. while the Steelers nickel & dime their way thru FA & have mediocre drafts.. something has to change.
If the NFL didn't have a salary cap the Rooney's would have a worse reputation in PA than Nutting.
Ravens haven’t won a SB since 2013
@TheBbjcc Yet they're considered contenders every year whereas the Steelers are viewed as the team that just barely squeaks in that is expected to be non-competitive. The national media act like Tomlin doesn't have a major hand in choosing his players and coaches.
This past draft was huge, and if we have another one like this past years draft then we are only going to continue only get better.
@@joshfrye542 They're only contenders every year cuz of Lamar Jackson. The Steelers are otherwise just as talented, and Lamar keep choking in the play-offs. The barely squeaking in SHOULD be an expectation for now as the team is REBUILDING. Blame Big Ben for not stepping aside sooner and allowing the rebuild to start.
People need to stop acting like the Steelers need to held to a higher expectation just cuz they're the Steelers. They're a football team just like any other football team, that happens to have a more passionate fanbase. The Jets have their own passionate fanbase, and look at what situation they've been in going on over a decade.
Tomlin is good at motivating.
Which makes his team great in a long regular season.
When the playoffs begin, everyone is motivated and his terrible game planning is put on center stage.
66-0 outscored in the first quarter of the last 5 seasons. He doesn't get his team prepared to play from a schematic / game planning standpoint.
Bleh.
McCarthy was almost out after a few seasons of better play than the Steelers for the past 7 years but it’s a sin to even question Tomlin? 😂
Thank god he’s returning. I was worried that our title as the Kings of Mediocrity might be up for grabs next season. Who cares that we haven’t won a playoff game in 8 years as long as we can keep that “no losing seasons” thing going. Super Bowl titles are overrated anyway.
The sports reporters are gonna cum in their pants about him going 9-8 again and the fans will be disappointed with a first round exit.
He's one of the most overrated coaches in history and now thag he doesn't have Cowhers team he's stuck in mediocrity.
The NFL should create a Best of the Rest title for Tomlin.
He is becoming Marvin Lewis.
Yeah, that might fit. I was thinking college: Bobby Bowden, Joe Paterno. Here's the rub: imagine Chuck Noll dealing with these bratty multi-millionaire players. When TJ & Cam Heyward essentially JAMMED Mike Tomlin down my throat today; well. it hit a nerve. I grew up near McAfee in the South Hills, Pitt grad, and I will STOP patronizing this franchise and their mediocre performances and "look at me" players.
Yep, or even Jason Garrett. Garrett hung onto his job so long in Dallas because he would win just enough games to not get fired. And look what happened to both Lewis and Garrett once they were finally let go. Nobody wanted to hire them as a head coach. Unfortunately for us Steeler fans, it looks like Tomlin will have to quit before we ever get a new coach. Bye bye Mike Vrabel!
All these media talking heads are astounded that the Cowboys are keeping Mike McCarthy, but think Pittsburgh would be nuts to let Tomlin go. McCarthy has won 12 games each of the last three years then proceeded to get knocked out of the playoffs. Meanwhile Tomlin limps into the playoffs then get destroyed in the wildcard games. What's the difference?
McCarthy actually won a few Wildcard games, too, since 2017. Seahawks and Buccaneers.
Tomlin needs to be fired
As a Browns fan, please keep Tomlin.
lol
As a Steeler's fan: please keep Flacco.
They have the Happy Ending man and pay him over 200 millions. Next couple of years they will loose many players cause of that. Browns doing Browns things.@@VonPitt84
Easy there Hoss, Chuck Knoll was still the head coach the last time you finished ahead of us in the division and that organization is now in Baltimore.
Mike Vrabel would look good in Pittsburgh
Yeah, he’d look like Tomlin only a white guy. Maybe that’s what you are more comfortable with
@@matthewgabbard6415 He won division titles with Ryan Tannehill, numb nuts. Tomlin had HOFer Big Ben and hasn't done squat since 2016....
@@matthewgabbard6415 Dude that was so feminine for a Mathew. Bless your pea size heart
Vrabel is white Mike Tomlin. Both dinosaurs that can’t scheme.
Vrabel did look good in Pittsburgh
It’s been 15 years since Steelers won the Super Bowl with Mike Tomlin. Yeah he’s had winning season every year but ultimately Super Bowls should be the goal. Not just having winning seasons.
Well said. I think the Rooneys seem ok with one and done.
Soo SB wins every year is the standard? Or is making the div round every yr the standard??Last I checked this isn't the patriots with Brady on the team. Gotta get real with expectations. This team isn't a dynasty. This ain't the late 60s anymore
@@TheMoistDonutsthe patriots are worse off as far as stability
Spoiled man ur not a true fan
@@David-u1t2h I’m not a Steelers fan. And your a obvious bot troll your account was made 2 months ago.
I’ll gladly trade never winning another playoff game for the rest of my life just as long as Tomlin wins 9 games in the regular season
I can’t believe the NFL or the NFL media doesn’t give out the Mediocrity trophy. They all think it’s so impressive, you’d think someone would hand out an award. 😁
I really hope this is the sarcasm I think that it is but you can never tell these days. Lol
Indeed. I just got my Non-Losing season banner and plan to hang it up this weekend as I watch my betters play football with competent coaches.
Here’s my take! They drafted Pickett in the first round. We found out he’s avg at best (6 TD’s in 12 games, AVG’s about 150 yards passing a game). Pickett gets injured. You put Trubisky in who looked terrible at best. Then Tomlin pulls him for the 3rd string guy, Rudolph, who ends up looking the best of the three. Now common sense would tell me good byeTrubisky! Start next season at minimum with a QB competition between Rudolph and Kenny (and Draft a QB). Rudolph looked more like the starter than Kenny! 🤷🏻♂️ That’s what a good head coach would do. But watch, Tomlin will not do that.
he has been too good too long to get great drafts. 8-8 teams get 8-8 draft players
Hell yes! More years of non-losing mediocrity!!! So pumped up about it!
Who would you bring in
Ngl you’re absolutely brain dead
@@ag218Bozo the fricking clown would be a better choice than the "cheerleader" Tomlin. The Steelers have had ample talent over the last 7 years to win a playoff game. Remember the Killer Bs? Its time to move on from this clown...
The most non-news news.
Since when is 50% the mark of a winner. A winning season means winning AT LEAST the first round of the Playoffs. When does a winning season mean, you NEVER had an answer for the PATRIOTS, even when they were 2-10! We Yinzers are sick to death of losing in the first round of the Playoffs. Sick to death of the piss poor drafts. Sick to death of watching players walk away from the Steelers and play excellent football.
Mike Tomlin is the players buddy, he needs to be a coach.
Enough already.
Win 6 Super Bowls and get pushed out. Win 1 with another coaches players…. JOB for LIFE cause you’re BLACK!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is JJ Watt wearing a Pablo Sanchez Backyard Sports t-shirt? If so, that's awesome!
As football players, how big a deal is it going over .500? As a mon player I feel like players want the Lombardi, and anything else is a losing season.
Tomlin is weak at clock management, managing timeouts and hiring offensive coordinators. That needs to change or he needs to go.
Woo Hoo!! Can't wait until they go 10-7 and have 35 dropped on them in the WC game!!
Yeah they all want to play for Tomlin becasue they're undisciplined and hes soft on them.
2016 Down 0-10 to the Patriots ...loss 17 - 36
2017 Down 0-21 to the Jaguars ...loss 42 - 45
2020 Down 0-28 to the Browns ...loss 37 - 48
2021 Down 7-21 to the Chiefs...later 7-35 ...loss 21 - 42
2023 Down 0-21 to the Bills ... loss 17 - 31
This shows that Tomlin has lost the ability to prepare his team(s) for the playoffs....final scores on many of the games are respectable....but they are in holes too deep to climb out....against good teams....
Tomlin is a GOOD Coach....but Good is the enemy of GREAT! We need to make the Steelers Great Again!!! although, if it is all scripted...then who really cares who is in charge....the results will be the same.
Pittsburgh Dad Texas
We need a GIGANTIC UPGRADE at offensive coordinator!!
I'm burned out on Mike Tomlin and his enablers always making excuses for him despite the many years his team has underachieved in the playoffs even when he's had great talent. You like the status quo? Go ahead and just give the man a lifetime contract and be done with all this talk. He wants to be there, and the owners and many fans want him there no matter what the final results are. I'm just giving up on the entire situation. Today's Steelers fan base is soft, and so are today's Steelers. You get what you ask for, enjoy it.
This!
Been to Pittsburgh lately? They don’t make steel anymore. It’s a city that lost its soul.
Pittsburgh's last playoff win was Jan 15, 2017
Zero TDs. 5 FGs.
Honest question...Bill Cowher had a similar winning pct to Tomlin and also went 1-1 in Superbowls and otherwise had his issues in the playoffs as Tomlin has...but Cowher is revered and Tomlin is looked down upon...why is that? Were people just too easy on Cowher?
I do think the Steelers should let Tomlin go...but it feels like there's some hypocrisy here. Is it just a personality thing?
I think it’s bc cowher took over a meh Steelers team and built that team up and left at top of mountain while tomlin took over his team and won a sb but since those players on cowhers team left he hasn’t sniffed another Super Bowl since and now hasn’t won a playoff game for 7 years
Cowher is from Pittsburgh, better playoff record overall too. Not saying I agree or disagree, but I think these are the two drivers. Cowher generally fits the personality of the city and didn’t put up with near as much drama from the players either.
Lmao here we go with the weak minded individuals excuse. Get a life chump, I mean champ
Tomlin only won the big one with Cower’s players
Cowher has a much better playoff record. 12-9 in 15 years vs 8-10 in 17 years. He had some disappointing losses but his teams were constantly in contention. Tomlin has only won 3 playoff games in the last 13 years which feeds into the narrative that he only won when he had Cowher's team.
Omar was the first piece of change last year, Pit really needs to go out and get an OC instead of trying to promote from in house, Sully and Fulkner did a good job but we need an OC from the outside, pitt coaches are just too defensive minded. I really want them to bring in Byron as OC, if they do that and bring back Mason, let Kenny develope behind him for a bit ill have a lot of confidence in this team going forward.
They need to fire Tomlin and hire a young, innovative offensive minded HC. Until that happens the Steelers will remain mediocre.
BOO!! More mediocre middle of the road football to come.
I KNOW THIS SHOW NEVER TAKES THE FANS SIDE AND ART ROONEY IS TOO DRUNK TO RUN THIS TEAM. Mike Tomlin is a failure and you guys act like he's been DA MAN but he's not and I'll put his record against Bill Cowhers any day of the week. We all know your're to chickenshit to talk to fans or to see it from our side. The Steelers standerd is dead, Mediocre Mike will NEVER win another championship unless another coach leaves him with a super team like Bill Cowher did.
This show is scared to see the fans point of view... We are SICK of Tomlin's playoff failures.
To expect anything to change is not realistic.
Next year.....
Same result....finish above .500
Rely on help to make playoffs
If we make the playoffs
Lose by double digits
Constantly hear how great Mike T is
Awhile ago the Eagles parted ways with Andy Reid. Shortly after the Eagles and Andy Reid got their first Super Bowl wins. As a Steelers fan this is the most respectful way I can sum up our argument. Andy was and obviously still is a great coach but sometimes it’s just best for a change. I’m sure we’ve all had an ex or 2 who we knew were good people but it was just time for a change. You see them doing well elsewhere, you’re doing well. Coach T is a good as it gets. Steelers are as good as it gets. It’s just stale. And I can’t think of a miracle way to revive other than to get him massive help with substantial coordinators. No playoff wins since 16-17 season. Collapse of the killer B’s. 3-8 in playoffs since Super Bowl loss to packers. 5 straight playoff loses. Last 4 playoff games have been down by at least 21 points. TJ Watt doesn’t have a playoff win under his belt.
I mean maybe if the Eagles had Andy Reid this year they wouldn't have fallen apart LOL
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Tomlins fairly young still, he's capable of a second act. The Front Office being squared away will help. But moves need to be made at OC and DC as well. The in-house assistant to coordinator pipeline is completely dry right now. A tighter ship needs to be seen among the players as Najee talked about.
A second act ?? When was the first ?? He inherited someone else’s team, leaders, culture and assistant coaches that got him to two superbowls. The further we get from them first four years the more obvious it is that they didn’t win because of him. 3 playoff wins in 13 years since. How many years do we give him ? He should be the coach no matter the results till he decides hes done ? Give me a break.
@jared8308 Don't vent on me, it's happening. Tomlin is coming back, and probably getting re-signed, despite the lack of recent success. I'm talking a second act post Ben. Did you not see this draft class in action? Another draft or two like that and this team will be winning playoff games again.
The “second act” that I want to see is Mike Vrabel. But instead we’re sticking with Mr Mediocre.
@@scottmichaels12 No, The Rooney Rule won't allow that. Mike Munchauk would have been a great replacement for Saint Mike years ago; but he was shown the door when the King's Crown was in peril. I'm done with this franchise; this is NOT the Noll/Cowher led culture...
@VonPitt84 Dude...Munchak was a below average HC having a 22-26 record for the Titans. He was a fantastic OL coach tho for the Steelers and was here for like 5 years. He wasn't "shown the door" he made a lateral move to Denver to be closer to family. His decision. He didnt do as well in Denver as here, and has been out of the league for 3 seasons now.
We all know what the issue is. Tomlin is too insecure to hire an oc/dc that's smarter than he is. If he would go after a too notch one. They'd have won a lot more. After Hailey, that's it. That was a forced hire, same with ba. Stop letting him pick his buddies and put a good one in. I really don't care where they're from or who they know. Rudolph will be the best raited qb in the league next year with the right oc, gp and pat at te. Providing they get a C amd maybe RT. the d is in shambles. Cam is old and should only be getting 20 snaps a game when it counts the most. He played with a torn groin so that didn't help. Benton is going to be good, but ogun is old. They need to pay a top end d line guy to put with benton. The mlbs were great, until 2 of them blew their knees. Pat Peterson is old. Jpj was THE best rook db in the league and it wasn't even close. They need another one but we dont know what they have in trice. They had a 1st rd grade on him but injury is whyvhe fell AND why he was out. Spend your money. Cut mitch and pat Peterson. That frees up like 15mil in cap space and give it to Rudolph plus incentives. Done.
Tomlin and all his clowns need to go. I am sick and tired of the excuses. I am sick and tired of hearing about the non-losing seasons. I am sick and tired of getting BLOWN OUT in the playoffs. He is 0 - 5 in the last 5 playoff games and the Steelers have given up an average of 40.4 pts per game. Enough is enough. We need a new way of thinking, or we will be stuck in the world of mediocrity forever.
Saying this for YEARS!!! Tomlin is the new Marvin Lewis and we are the BUNGLES now!!!!! 😂😂😂😂
With Mike Tomlin it's fair to say that past history predicts future performance. There will be no championships for the Steelers while Mike Tomlin is around, he just doesn't have what it takes. Period. I will stop watching the Steelers until Mike Tomlin is gone, there is no point. I encourage all of Steeler nation to do likewise. Art Rooney II needs to suffer for his arrogance and ignoring the fans and his market. And all of you sports media that "Loves me some Mike Tomlin" are just stupid people (you too JJ Watt) because you are complicit in destroying the Steelers franchise.
Have to disagree. They said it too. Doesn't matter if you're pick 1 or pick 18 who cares if you're doing nothing in February. Haven't won a playoff game in 7 years. any other coach would be fired for not winning a playoff game in 7 years. Tomlin should not be on the pedestal he is for the lack of success he's had
I am glad as a life long fan that TJ wants to play for his coach. But does Mike win big games when it matters? Arguably the only one he won was with another coach's team. I do not buy in anymore. We are Pittsburgh and winning is expected. We have not done so for a very long time and have not looked like a championship caliber team in years. I am not a football expert but seemingly changes have to be made. Don't slaughter me but it seems change is required?
Good job Steelers another standard 9-8 season coming your way.
2037. Steelers won’t win a ring before then, go ahead and screenshot it.
The circus continues and the players will continue crying 😂
If Pickett is QB1 going forward ill take a few years off from watching the Steelers. Abysmal QB at best.
Talk about being spoiled. Imagine having a winning season every year. Making the playoffs more often than not. Making the playoffs again… and talking about firing your coach. Like the chips aren’t falling their way… and yet still winning. I know they want a Super Bowl but only one team can win it. And Tomlin is the guy that can help bring that, they just needs a couple more pieces, and maybe a good OC and they will be right in the hunt.
It's been 7 years since a playoff win and you can't just find good offensive coordinators because they aren't poached they are hired as head coaches
That's the problem, they keep winning meaningless games and then getting mid draft picks and not be able to draft THE best players available that they desperately need. That's how 90% of the top teams now have been, having losing season and getting top picks that bring in generational talent. Not saying they need to go 0-17 but 4-13/6-11 are great starts to a proper rebuild
Gtfoh, every teams fans are allowed to criticize their coach and call for their jobs but when steelers fans do it we're spoiled and don't know how good we have it?
Whatever man. The pats just got rid of a coach that won them 6 super bowls and nobody says anything. In the past 13 years BB has as many sb wins as tomlin has playoff wins!! 20 Franchises have more playoff wins than the steelers in that same span. Most of you aren't steeler fans so you have no idea how frustrating it is to watch this team dig themselves out of a hole they put themselves in every year, get your hopes, just to see them get embarrassed in the playoffs or not even make it. Tomlin's sb was 15 years ago. Literally half of the time since then he hasn't won a playoff game. 7 years is the longest playoff drought for the steelers in 50 years! Any other franchise would have fired him by now but the franchise tied for the most sbs ever should accept it? Y'all are clueless.
Ill say it again, all those years of going 8-8 or 9-7 with a roster that had 11-5 or 12-4 talent is NOT GOOD!
Last 5 playoff games the Steelers were outscored by 55 points were is the great coaching in that. Coach T has to do better at getting his one and done playoff teams to start starting or at least keep it close.
Whoever thinks this was a good move for my Steelers have the brain of a mosquito.
Tomlin cheerleader comebacks no losing season 😂
Mike Tomlin definitely has a chance to extend his streak of non-losing seasons in the future!
That's about as good as it will ever get
He can extend that streak along with this one: not winning playoff games for 7 straight years
@zachdamenti4387 Mike Tomlin is overrated he had a Prime Antonio Brown who was the best receiver and Levon Bell the best running back at that time and he won nothing but yall want the patriots to fire Bill Bellichek
@@zboy2020visionhe’s mediocre. Tomlin needs to go.
The national sports media LOVES Tomlin; and just like Tiger Woods, they reflexively have nothing but gushing praise. Team McAfee: just get a bucket of the coaches bath water and y'all can pass the water ladle around...chumps
Tomlin is the best ever for not winning in the playoffs, meanwhile not losing the most during the regular season. This is the standard.
Rudolph definitely needs to be the starter from here on out. They actually look like a football team under Rudolph and he has had the best games as a Steelers QB since Big Ben left.
Man they looked like a complete football team when Canada left, Kenny played great his first game without Canada, Mitch was terrible and proved he couldn’t lead an offense, Kenny is the clear QB 1 and mason is the clear QB 2
Mason won’t be back…He earned a decent contract and possible a starting position somewhere? The Steelers won’t pay him. He looked better than Pickett.
@@a.d.s7077 Kenny was kinda crappy again against AZ prior to getting hurt.
@@a.d.s7077 kenny isnt mentally strong enough to play qb1.....the proof....they had to keep him at the no 1 spot on the depth chart while he was riding pine....the man skipped on media day....not the things you see from a true leader and a qb1 MUST be a leader
KP8 is hoping the job is handed to him because where he was drafted, he knows he's not better than MR2
No playoff win next year then. No sense in watching regular season, when you already know the outcome. You have 7 years in a row as reference.
well another winning season without a playoff win. standard is the standard.
How is tomlin NOT on the block? Because a winning season means nothing without playoff wins
He doesn’t have a qb.
95 percent of coaches have a losing season with that team
@@xavieonedavis1318 and who's the head coach?
@@xavieonedavis1318 95% of those teams would have changed course by now.
@xavieonedavis1318 and tomlin had ben, which was elite... but our D was a garbage 🗑 for many years with tomlin
Florio made this whole story up. The guy is despicable.
If they signed Baker, there would be no discussion, just praises... how bout this? Sign/Trade for Justin Fields...
If I call this, better have me on for 1 yr under contract: I'll do it for free just to prove a point. That FANS = INSIGHT.
But if tomlin wanted an elite coordinator, he would get one. Lets be real
Mediocre Mike is back to lead us to absolutely nowhere.
Tomlin is a good coach. But if you hope to win the superbowl, you'd better move on with him. The steelers has a lot of talents, who deserve a better outcome every year.
No, we have some talent but no QB.
Hire Eric Bieniemy as OC Randle El as WRs coach hire Mike Vrabal as DC let Eric bring in his QB he wants.
Tomlin hire nobody that overshine him.
Majority of Steelers fans want him gone! We are done with all his bs, but the media just loves him, you can have him.
Tomlin is the Schottenheimer of this generation. Supposedly great but mostly average. So the Rooney's are happy with slightly above average. No problem, I have been a Steeler fan for over 40 years but I'm out until Tomlin is gone. Go Lions?
This will be Tomlin's 2nd or 3rd contract extension that does include a year where he won a playoff game. Name a team that constantly re signs a loser and now we're talking about Lovie Smith and Marvin Lewis. Clearly the Steelers are not committed to titles but optics. Maybe he can get draft pick and coordinator hiring advice from Bill Cowher.
Tomlin staying means another one and done. 23 different teams have won a playoff game since the steelers last win
Yeah, but our “no losing seasons” thing cannot be beat. We should start printing t-shirts.😆
@@scottmichaels12 what good does it do if you can't win in the 1st round much less a superbowl. Tomlin has to act like a coach not a babysitter.
Get one more winning season than leave and retire on a high note. He isn’t gettin us to another Super Bowl. We need a winning quarterback
Another mediocre year coming up 0:43
Great! Another one and done playoff appearance. I’d love him to take his ‘greatness’ and ‘never a losing season’ to a different team. He’s done jack squat for 15 years.
A winning culture, multiple superbowl appearances including a win. But yeh nothing at all
Couldn't agree more
Though the last 5 years have been average at best to say the least. Give Tomlin his last year but make some big splashes in FA which they never do, trade fir a justin fields or bryce young just do something except the same old nothing and hope for change
@@choof_worm Last SB appearance was almost 15 years ago and they haven't won a playoff game since the 2016 season. And that "winning culture" you mentioned literally only applies to the regular season.
@@choof_worm He did a great job until 2012. Since then he has done nothing. 2012 is a long time ago
7 years without a playoff win. Do playoff appearances even matter if you dont ever win one?
Not only that but they haven't even been competitive in their last 5
Get Tomlin a QB and the team will be okay.
The front office made a HUGE mistake holding on to Big Liability Ben for way too long.
Look at what the Packers did with Aaron Rodgers.
That should be the Bluerprint for all teams.
In fact, teams should ALWAYS draft a QB just in case the one they currently have gets injured and/or turns out to be a BUM.
If it is "the most important position in sports," then how the hell are you starting the season with either 1 competitive QB or no competitive QB?
Final thought, every draft has a Tom Brady, Dak Prescott and Brock Purdy waiting to be drafted.
These GMs simply don't know how to evaluate QBs and that is why they often missing.
LOL
Tomlin chose Pickett and Canada. He sucks at evaluating the offense.
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"Tomlin chose Pickett..."
--- So, what?
If you have somebody who can make better choices, then let them make those choices.
It is an easier fix than risking gutting the whole team when all you need is a competent QB who can execute the game plan.
LOL
@francmittelo6731 The problem is twofold, Tomlin sucks at evaluating offensive talent and they're going to stick with Pickett and waste another year of Watt's waning prime on a 1st rd bust at QB. You're also going to lose Johnson and Harris in a yr.
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I doubt that the QB is solely a Tomlin decision.
The Steelers have great offensive talent.
One thing the Steelers do very well is find weapons.
Giving Pickett another chance is not a Tomlin decision.
Maybe, you have a plug inside the Steelers' organization informing your opinion.
Outside of that, I don't believe that Tomlin is a problem that needs fixing.
The same way I didn't believe Belichik was a problem The Patriots needed to deal with.
@@francmittelo6731 Sometimes it's just time to move on. Tomlin teams are expected to get crushed in the playoffs. Why not give Rudolph the second chance? He significantly outplayed Pickett and can at least make basic reads while staying in the pocket.
me being a life long Steeler fan ur praise of Tomlin isn’t well founded. I’m tired of ppl putting him on a pedestal and backing it up w BS oh he’s never had a losing season! 1. He has a losing playoff record always loses the trap games and the big games. Let’s not forget him intentionally trying to trip the Ravens player! He’s a disgrace! Cowher was the better coach hands down. Tomlin only SB he won was w Cowhers team and coaches. Big Ben was molded by Arians (Cowher hired coach and dick LeBeau def also Cowher coach) he lost his 2nd SB in 2011 to Packers and has done nothing since. Over both 15yrs of Cowher and Tomlin Cowher has more wins less losses has a winning playoff record and more Division titles than Tomlin. Standard is Cowher not Tomlin. Tomlins inability to hire good coaches and unable to develope QBs is a HUGE problem. He is the CO of the team it’s his responsibility and he fails yr after yr after yr. Everybody needs to take off their coke bottle blinder Tomlin glasses he’s mediocre at best even on a different team. He suppose to b def specialist yet last 5 playoffs the opponent has scored 144 points on his def. As long as we have Tomlin it’s going to b one regurgitated disappointing season every yr!!!!🤮🤮🤮
Love It Pat ThePatMcafeeShow Bro Let's Gooooooooo.
I’m out.
Tomlin’s quote of “The Standard is the Standard”…is bull.
So the “Standard” is now loosing to below 0.500 team’s CONSTANTLY and extending our Playoff losing streak.
That’s the new Standard.
Prove me wrong
The nfl doesn't want defensive minded headcoaches as headcoaches anymore the nfl wants offensive minded headcoaches now the nfl wants more offense more than defensively
I think steelers fan are just sick off seeing us getting punked every playoff game. That's the real problem we always come out flat in the playoffs
We've been the underdog in every play-off game since the Jags game, what do you expect? The Browns were the better, more complete team during the Covid year, people just didn't want to admit it. The Steelers were overachieving.
Also, it's highly unlikely the Browns would have pulled off what they did if Heinz Field had it's normal capacity crowd.
@@nahor88 GB wasn't a under dog TB wasn't a under dog. Yeah, those teams never play up to competition. Win or lose the steelers we're always the bully. Now we are the dork that gets their books smacked out of their hands.... These L's just feel different right?
They love calling tomlin a leader of men... Why then are there so many dumb 15yd personal foul penalties? By dumb I mean taunting, showboating, after the whistle. Why then does he allow young players to wreck his locker room? Lack of discipline. Coach Cowher would lose his mind if that was occuring on his watch. He benched players and ultimately traded them out of his organization for those serial offenders, plexico burris comes to mind. Tomlin let Brown and Bell ruin a truly talented team and hes going to let pickens, Pickett, and johnson do the same. Watch tomlins reaction to stupid after the whistle penalties. Stone faced, indifferent to the situation. Cowher was in their grill before they could get to the sideline. Tomlin lack the will to get his young players under control. They turn into cancers very quickly.
At this point, steelers fans only care about Mike tomlin non losing season standard LOLLL. While you at it hang banner number 17 up because the steelers are no longer questing for championship but for MIDDDDD
My beef is how do these jagoffs get hired as OC doesn't Tomlin get a say in it. I have feeling it's the Rooney's not wanting to pay just cuz he sold off some of his ownership. Younz can say what you want but they ruined Pickett already and I think was Juju said he didn't learn sh!t with our coaching staff.
Steeler fans are so delusional, “we expect Super Bowls” WHAT GIVEA YOU THAT EXPECTATIONS 🤨
Colbert didn't like to do any free agent moves. Kahn is now GM and has made moves, and his picks seem to be better so far. Don't forget Colbert took Edmunds over Lamar Jackson at 32, Edmunds isn't even on the squad anymore. Rooneys being cheap and not wanting to spend on high talent offensive coordinators seems to be accurate. Our owner doesn't spend and they set this stingy culture. Hopefully rooney gets up to the times and spends some money on coordinators offensive and defensive. Vrabel as defensive coordinator if he doesn't get a new job.
well this sucks,,,,Mike didn't do much with a HOF QB in his prime with Brown and bell,,,,,,,
They will go 9-8 next year. And they will marvel at how great he is. Kenny Pickett isn’t on the same planet of talent as Joey B or Lamar. And if Deshaun can get it together, not even close to him. TJ watt has zero playoff wins. Sad.