The BRUTAL Truth Behind The BUDGET COSTCO Irons...
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The BRUTAL Truth Behind The BUDGET COSTCO Irons... When it comes to buying budget golf clubs there are certain brands that are smashing it out of the park, takomo are making some amazing budget golf clubs, but the bug news is coming from costco, the new costco Kirkland signature irons are unbelievable value. so in this video we tested them against the most expensive golf clubs of 2024, just how forgiving are these Kirkland irons? are they the myst forgiving irons of 2024? the best budget irons of 2024? the best irons of 2024? the best golf clubs of 2024? potentially the best high handicap golf clubs, best high handicap irons of 2024 and the best cheap golf clubs of 2024... let's do it... and let's do it now!
For the Kirkland irons just remove the paint filling and do it in white. You’ll be amazed at how much better they look
Don't even have to remove. Paint over it. Trust me, it works!
Look, if you want a decent set of irons, and you don’t want to pay for name brand nonsense, these irons are perfectly fine. Here’s how stupid I am. I got a set of TM P790s 4-A with KBS TGI 90 shafts. Total cost was around $1700. I can’t stand them. I wasted my money. I’m not a scratch golfer. If I could do it all over again, I would’ve got one of the direct to consumer irons with normal shafts and be done with it. The only club that has significantly changed my golf, has been the LAB Golf Mezz1 Max. Everything else I have has not significantly helped my game. Why pay $1700 when you can pay $600 and play just as well? I might sell all my stuff and get some Maltby TS1 IM for $559. Maltby also makes a TS4 forged blade if you need that. It simply doesn’t add up to buy name brand stuff. There are too many good clubs for a lot better price.
Both those Maltby options are very very good. I play a combo set of them.
@@jeremygricar4361 I have played the TE Forged for many years. A shame these UA-cam Gurus avoid component club(head)s like the plague - they simply won't touch them. Someday......
@@montegustafson5142 gabe from let's play thru has been reviewing the Maltby clubs recently!
Yeah glad I went with Takomos
@@BOULDERDP I will back you up on the sub 70 clubs. I bought a set off a guy selling them on Facebook marketplace. 639 CB (similar to Takomo 201’s) 3-PW, KBS Tour stiff shafts, and Golf Pride Multi Compound grips. Asked him how much he paid, I think he said like $650 USD and I paid $300. Love them and I am going to get their wedges. Customer service has been amazing after talking with them on Instagram and on the phone.
In order to get good at golf, you need to play. A lot. Greens fees prevent the average person from playing more than a dozen or so rounds a year.
Depends on where you’re at and what you consider average, but yeah green fees are nuts in many places.
💯 there’s a company called Get Golfing in the UK. For £450 you will get around 30 rounds a year. Not top courses but good enough to improve. However many courses are £100+ per round which is crazy.
@@chrislaing8444 I heard a ton of UK courses are under 2k a year for full membership with practice facility usage and range balls.
Is the true? I know that might not sound “cheap” but that’s actually very reasonable all things considered.
In Japan people just go to driving range facilities for most of their lives because of green fee costs.😸
It’s £20 a round at my local course…
For $399.00 USD, I would be looking for the Adams irons. They're currently selling them at PGA Superstore here in the States. I don't know about Europe though.
My Costco Signature Driver just arrived Yesterday. I will be reviewing it this weekend at the driving range. Super stoked to add that club to my bag. Gonna rock that Kirkland headcover with pride this weekend. For us average golfers who dont have deep pockets, these are the cheat code. Im now in search or the Irons or Wedges.
Honestly if you're in the market for something that looks similar to that PXG and still performs well, I'd go look at the Sub 70 golf 649 or 659 MB's or the TAIII Forged. TAIII's are $826.00USD for 4-PW, 649 MB's are $649.00 for 4-PW and that's both club sets fitted for loft and lies, a regular flex KBS Tour lite shaft and grey Lamkin Crossline standard grips which is an upcharge of $21... People forget about Sub 70. Takomo and Caley or now the Kirklands are nice, but there are a few other options...
never herad of them but I am looking at getting new irons here soon, I'll take a look at them thanks
There is no need to go alll the way to the 0317 to get into the PXG line. The 0211 is in my opinion the best choice for those looking for incredibly good quality, great looks, custom fitting, and performance. They are only slightly more than the Kirklands, but you can get custom fit easily and choose your setup. I, for example have absolutely no use for a 4 iron (honestly I and many others could pass on the 5 also in favor of easier to hit high lofted woods) but love the GW in the 0211 line. I think for most nonscratch players Kirkland made huge missteps with the set makeup and the heavy shafts. You can get custom fitting and top notch performance at a great price--but not from Kirkland. (For reference, I'm not a hack--just shot a -4 68 last week with the 0211 irons and driver.)
I have gen 3 0311P irons and saw a guy at a simulator with a PXG bag so I decided to talk to him. He had a bag with black ops driver, TM mini driver, PXG hybrid, black gen 6 0311 irons, a sugar daddy wedge and putter. Spent almost 3k and had never been on a course. I said why not get the 0211 and said for a little more he could get the 0311. And he got the military discount.
99.9% amateurs don't need any fitting. You don't make consistent contact
@@userb83852 Which is why a fitting helps so much. It will help you find the clubs that are most forgiving for your most common misses. I would never recommend expensive fittings, because I rarely recommend expensive things in general. But a cheap or free fitting can avoid the mistake of buying clubs that don't forgive the swings you make. Simple concept that is absolutely true.
I bought a set of Cobra f9 irons in 2019 5 through gap wedge paid $900. Just replaced them with Takomo 101 same shaft as theCobra’s $505 shipped to my door. Any other name brand irons I looked at were over a thousand. The difference allows me to get a couple of lessons and treat myself to a green fee at a couple of other courses in our area.
I’m looking at Takomo’s as well. Why did you go with the 101? I’m torn between a couple of the options
I changed my TM PSI for Takomo 201 with KBD tour lite S shaft. Totally love them. Lost a little bit of distance (7i from 155m back to 150m) but got a lot of control in return (playing hcp 5 currently). The carry and total distance are really close.
I wouldn't mind seeing a comp between the Kirkland and the Takomo 101 since they are roughly in the same price bracket.
Agreed.
If you watch lets play thru he did one. The kiklands are shorter and less forgiving than the 101's more like a P770. He said Takomo's were a better buy especially bc you can customize
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Probably the best 2 budget iron sets out there.
Like your vids….no BS…just the real data without bias….thx James….too bad I can’t get Kirkland irons or driver in Canada.😩
I've seen em in northern Alberta at Costco.
I'm playing with an original set of King Cobra Tour irons from the 90's. I have every one from 1 iron through lob wedge. The sand and lob wedge are terrible but all the irons I hit and play better with than every set of modern more costly irons I own. I like them so much, found a 3 - PW set a few years back that were hardly used and bought them in case i wear out the grooves or one breaks at the hosel.
I am always on the lookout for cheaper offerings. The Costco clubs are interesting ... but when they were taken off the shelf ... got a set of Wilson D9's. They are cheaper and longer than my G series Ping irons from 2016.
Tell me I’m wrong: It’s hard to buy bad irons these days, they’re all pretty decent. Product categories (muscle back, traditional blades, cavity, hollow, improvement lofts, etc.) mean more than price or brand especially for mid to high handicaps.
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this is great and all, but you cant even get the Kirkland clubs anymore. They are never in stock or they may have stopped selling them because of the lawsuit....... :(
Totally agree. Same with the drivers. Like some of the other posts, I'd rather go with Takomo, Caley, Maltby, or even PXG 0211 that I can 1) easily get and 2) can do at least some level of customization with shaft choice, loft/lie, etc.
Feel and looks are important - as they inspire confidence, that's why I've got a set of T100s
I still have my KS1 putter! Not leaving my collection any time soon
So James, I’ll make this easy… you don’t get 3x the performance of the Kirkland Irons in the PXGs, which are butt ugly in my book. If I’m spending $1,500 on just my main irons, I expect a ton more than these delivery. I take the Kirklands and spend the rest on some short irons, putter and driver from Kirkland… Now I just need a 3W or a 2I to finish the set and I still have about $300 left. I was a 7 handicap when I played a lot and I’m thinking about getting back into the game, so this is directly relevant to me.
Got a brand new set of the cobra mims irons last summer. 600 dolllars with lamkin grips and kbs c taper shafts. They are very good and look great! Just buy a set from a year or two ago and try and play as much as you can.
Or just buy a set of last years Honma irons for around $600 that were $1400 last year. I’ve done that three times over the last 10 years and love and play every set of them.
Flawless performance plus the bag bling (if that’s your thing).
Super high quality clubs for the price of DTC.
IF...we ever get to see them in stores again.
Right? We see all these comparisons, but they don't tell how/where they get them.
I went in between and got the pxg 0211 xcor2 irons one season used but in perfect shape for $600 CAD. I’d take those over either all day long.
For the average golfer that may not be able to hit the pxg . I think it all comes down to snobbery. I had Mizuno mp15 irons and changed to Takomo 201 irons because of your recommendation and they are fantastic clubs at half the price.😁👍
I’ve got the pxg 317t clubs. Got a great deal as ex law enforcement. Im a 7 handicap up to 12 on some days, never hit a better feeling, looking, performing club. I look forward to hitting them. Just love using them.
What would I buy...the Takomo 101 irons. All over again. I've been an enormous fan of these irons since I've gamed them last year. I played my personal best last season with them. Can't wait to get on with these again this year. No contest.
Love your thoughts for sure, but you can not get the Kirklands. PXG does have the o211s. Anyway, I buy used when I can find a set I like. Good show.
Absolutely the Costco clubs! I hit the M2 irons now, I played the best round of my life with the 96 callaway big Bertha irons just a few years ago. The club is part of it yes, but you have to be able to swing the Club correctly to make the ball go where you want it.
For a moment, I thought you were gonna bust out an Army of Darkness joke with “shop smart, shop S-Mart”, lol
I’d like to see the Kirkland vs the takomo irons
For beginners, high handicappers it's a good buy!
Love the vid, Bobby's doing a great job.
I went down the middle and bought used 2021 P790s 🤷♂️
Can't even find kirkland driver irons or wedges anymore on there site. Taylor Made seemed to have stopped that.
I saw drivers for sale at my Costco
The driver is back in stock on thier website as of Friday 5/10. Just ordered one.
Why has Taylormade not sued other direct to consumer companies? There are plenty of them that came out with clubs looking like the P790's well before Costco released a full set. Is it because Costco is a much larger company, therefore more money to get?
They're suing Costco because of "false advertising". Not because they copied the P790s like everyone thinks.
Buy used or clearance. Clubs that are a few years old sell for $300-400 just have to keep an eye out
It’s very hard after you get fitted for irons..Taylor made makes you wait for now over 10 weeks.. that a huge problem when you pay over $1300 for QI HL .. if I could buy Costco irons I would buy them and play the next day!
At "Let's Play Through" he said the Malby TS1 IM irons are better and cheaper than Kirkland. Can also blend your set with the TS1 irons. IM's go for $465.
So from what I see here save yourself a 1000plus quid and get the Kirkland irons (once they come back in stock)
as a matter of interest what were the differences in loft between, for example the two 7 irons?
PXG 7 iron: 32°
Kirkland 7 iron: 31º
Those pxg look very similar to my 2011 TM MC tour preferred same shape medallion center weight
I could easily game either brand mate and after a few rounds and you have got used to the feel,sound,looks and performance you won’t think twice just as long as you’re enjoying yourself playing golf
The pxg 0317ts are the best irons I've ever played. Don't mind the price for the feel and forgiveness that they provide!
Can you do a review of the MacGregor MT-86 OS and/or MT-86 Pro irons? They do DTC full clubs or just heads. They also do an OS/Pro combo. The MT-86 OS's received a Silver rating by Golf Digest in their annual club review 2023. Love your channel! Watch every morning! Thank you, Saverio
At that price difference I'd definitely go for the Kirkland and spend the rest on lessons. However frankly I'd probably buy something inbetween such as the Takomo and have fewer lessons.
I absolutely loving the look of the PXG clubs but sadly the only way I could afford a set, it would have to be 2nd hand.
Are you still able to buy these irons? I can’t seem to find them since the lawsuit. I don’t know if they just sell out fast or they stopped selling them temporarily
I payed a bundle for t 350s last fall well before the kirkland rollout. I think i would've gone kirkland had I know they were coming simply on price
Bought a set of Takomo 201's
Golf 2024 is too expensive?
Yes BUT.
I played my 1st round of golf in 1978.
My local municipal golf club charged £5 for a round.
Today they charge £18.
My golf balls cost about £2.80 for 3 i think....a similar ball today (because it was a good ball back then but not now) would be £5ish.
New clubs....well for a start you had to go find somewhere that was selling clubs (my 3 local courses didn't sell clubs (persimmon back then) you could buy them in your mum's catalogue (i got my 1st set there i needed to because I'm a lefty so i couldn't use my mates. I think a 1-3-5 woods 3 iron to SW set cost me about £300.
My wage back then? £42 a week.(I was very young pay was often less for younger staff). Golf probably not that bad in cost today then.
For comparison my top flight football team used to charge me 50 pence for the boys pen or about £2 a ticket.
Now less just say it costs a lot more in the premier league.
I use the gloves and occasionally use the balls. They are brilliant value. I just couldn't put the irons (or their wedges)in the bag. Why they insist on stamping KS right across them and don't create a brand I don't know. I'll stick with my P790's.
The only brand I’ve ever felt a noticeable difference in striking was Adams Golf. The TaylorMade Stealth was a cool innovation but nowhere near what Adam’s Golf did with their irons and woods. Give me the Kirklands please. I love what Costco is doing.
I would love a set of the PXGs but would never spend that much money. I would be much more likely to buy the Kirkland, purely on price. No competition as far as bag appeal goes. The PXGs are gorgeous.
If I could afford them, I'd go with the PXGs for the availability of the fitting.
If my swing hadn't stabilized yet, I'd save the difference and go with the Kirklands.
I got the PXG xcor2's 6-9+LW,SW,GW and PW, 8 clubs in all, custom fit by PXG for just £552 with heroes discount program, but that's with 1 club more than the costco set. Take that club away and it's £483 and now cheaper than costco. As a price battle of lowest v highest then your vid is about right but you should really be putting the xcor2 against the kirklands. PXG are the better club and a similar price point with custom fit. Cheaper if you factor in PXG'S Heroes Program. Signed New PXG fan boy lol
Satin finish on the PXG looks better to me, though that aside for the average golfer it’d have to be Kirkland
Love the Kirkland content. I can’t hit those irons, but I still love the content.
I really like the fitting experience and confidence you get from PXG. I'm convinced PXG product quality is a very high standard, where something like Kirkland doesn't really measure up.
That PXG iron at the beginning looked banged up like a cheap hooker...
I play the Caley O1T irons. They are cheap, great looking and perform very well. I don't see the need to spend big money on a big brand anymore.
Apart from the fact you can't buy the Kirkland irons new in the UK today.
How about testing the new Benross clubs which you can get hold of, and get them fitted as well.....😉👍
PXG'S are about $1700 Canadian 4-PW plus tax for just under $1950. Kirkland irons not yet available in Canada. Would have to drive to the USA and pay USD. $500 US would be about $650 CDN.
Don’t believe me look at the 0211 Xcor2 irons, on sale for $99 each club, but being a veteran you get them for $79 each club. No one shared this with me and I’m spreading the word. The new black ops driver is $600 but as a veteran you can get it for $450. If you’re not a veteran, get a buddy that is to sign up and see if they will let you use their account.
PXG is honestly the best value in Golf if you’re a vet or first responder. You get deals on everything in the store not just the clubs. It’s kind of awesome.
I’ve seen more bad golfers with nice clubs than the opposite. I find that the better player especially at the amateur level, has been playing a specific set of irons for years. Most changes I see are in the wedges and or woods.
If you want a decent set of irons I’m selling my little used set 4-PW TaylorMade P790s with graphite F3 (RH). I’ve had to move to senior shafts after major heart op and prostate cancer. All good now, but lost 20% of clubhead speed. They are. BARGAIN AT £485.
I would like you to show dispersion comparisons for different clubs.
Only problem I have…..can’t get Kirkland irons or driver in Canada
I’m tokomo all the way ! When you fill your part of the bargain set up grip etc. I’m pumped the better I set up etc. the more they kik!!! New game!🏌🏽⛳️😎
I've been to Costco quite a few times. I have never seen the wedges, irons, putter or driver.
I'm planning on getting the Takomo 101t's for my next set.
Are these actually on sale in the UK as my local store say’s they don’t know if they will be sold in the UK ?
Probably going to ruffle a few feathers, but here goes. I play a set of 2016 Callaway Cf-16s 4i- gap wedge. I paid a total of around 350$ for them 4 years ago. I guarantee that they play just as well as any new club on the market. Pay what you want for shiny new, but it ain't going to improve your game! Spent your money on lessons and golf balls! And Kirkland signature balls are a good option!
OK, James... just where the hell do we get them? NLA
I wish they would've abbreviated it to just K-Sig
kS1 and then every year when they change model, they just go up KS2, KS3 etc
Where do you buy them in the UK though. They are not on the Costco site?
They are now
If I had to chose between these two clubs, I'd chose the PXG on looks alone.
I prefer the looks of the Caley and the price of both the Caley and Takomo
I personally don’t like the looks of the PXG. The back looks like some kind of mechanical device.
I live out on a small ranch in South Texas. I do a lot of practicing out on my place. I took the shredder on the tractor to a bunch of the brush and it is my practice area, better grazing for the livestock area. I have a mat and hit from that to simulate grass. I do a lot of practice from the dry dirt to simulate courses I will encounter. Two rounds of golf per month is about my max. The green fees are OK, but the courses are in humble shape. In the tractor metal shop building, I have a piece of putting green material I roll out 15x30 feet. I have also used the local elementary school grounds out back for wedges practice. It is just mown grass. Take a shag bag in the evening and get some practice. They water it to keep the grass growing. Use your imagination for how and where to practice. Golf nets are good but do not allow you to really see where the ball would end up. Foam balls in the yard have value as well. Get your practice up and you can improve even if you cannot afford lots of rounds at the course. Also, quality practice does not have to be hours of effort. I will hit balls at the ranch for 10 minutes before sundown often, drink a beer (ice cold beer on a hot summer evening? GOOD!), then pick them up in the morning.
I generally buy last year's run out models, far cheaper than the overpriced current years products. I honestly think the industry is stagnating, year on year equipment improvements are negligible.
That is some warmup.I will do that now.
What about Decathlon? Do you have it in the UK?
They have their own Brand and Golf Clubs. Could you try them? Greetings from berlin
I prefer the kirklands to be honest. Don’t think they make lefties tho so I’m on the outside looking in unfortunately
What kind of shoes are those? They look sweet!
When are we getting the Kirkland irons in the UK?
With cost and value, you have to consider residual value when you are done with them. Kirkland value will drop like a stone, mind you so do PXG as they are overpriced at purchase, and they change models so often. Also PXG make the ugliest clubs on the planet, too busy; i have tried them and had a fitting, didn’t really find them for me. All that being said, i watch the video with interest, but wouldn’t buy either. Kirkland against Caley, Takomo or Sub70 would be a better comparison, and the price points are not that different, residual values are. Also suggest you try the Krank drivers as used by Bryson, only $550 new and with a $150 introduction reduction so circa $400 which is a great price. They claim to bespoke each driver to the individual order, as they match build materials to swing speed, bespoke face thickness which makes sense. They also say roll and bulge is flattened by use, and players that swing over 100 flatten the face in under 20 shots?
Kirkland wedges are available in their stores.All these direct to consumer brands are great for 90% of golfers. The percentages of players that shoot in the 70's and under are very very low. Those are the players who may want to spend the big bucks for a set of expensive clubs, not high handicappers that play 10 rounds a year.
It doesn't matter how good these may be if they're always sold out.
Like you say James, let’s buy Kirkland and go on a golfing break with the savings. Unless you have a bottomless pit of money it makes more sense to buy budget, as you say there’s not many bad clubs out there 👍🏻
I want those kirkland. But my Costco wont carry them till after the lawsuit.😢 For $500 usd I can't even find worn out p790.
Go for an iron fitting, then look in 2nd hand market for a set with your specs, ping are good for this with the dot system, same with the rest of the bag.
To me being fit is the key. But lets be honest you could probably get the the Kirklands re shafted and still have enough left over for a set of wedges and some balls 😂😂
I told a friend to do this. We have a small but great shop that does free fittings. He is a 22 yo with limited funds so I told him to tell them which used clubs would be good. Then go to them when he has more to spend.
I think what we need is review of similarly priced clubs. I’m guessing the biggest market for Kirkland clubs is the same people that will buy budget clubs, not premium.
Kircklands look better to me .............. but I like a bladed iron look. .... however the top line........... they look awful, way too thick.
Hollow body irons don't intrest me tho, I like the fact my clubs tell me when I've hit it wrong or thing like a blade that makes your fingers sting).
I learned using blades and can't hit these kind of golf clubs, I still even use a 275cc driver, irons are mac gregors mb1025's
If you are a scratch golfer, you probably won’t see a massive difference. The thing is that someone who would play enough golf to be good at it would probably have no problem spending the money on nicer clubs. I’d be curious to see how these clubs would play for a mid to high handicapper who might benefit from the better engineering on the pricier clubs.
To be honest, golfers who buy brand new clubs and can't even hit the ball probably - what's the point in paying over £1000 for irons? Is it for the aesthetic?
I went to play a round with my uncle a couple of years ago and we were waiting at the opening tee for a guy to tee off. He had a fancy tour bag and some shiny Callaway brand spanking new irons. His practice swings looked awful and he was obviously a novice. I said to my uncle that his clubs looked great, he responded with he may have nice clubs but let's see if he can play. He teed off with a 30 yard shank, didn't even pick up his tee, wheeled off with his tour bag of clubs to hit his 2nd.
My point is, your average golfer is going to play average and buying clubs worth £100s or £1000s isn't worth it, especially if you can't hit the ball consistently or apply course management to their game. If you want new clubs, just go to the direct to consumer - cheaper and quality. Unless of course you're playing twice a week and have a single digit handicap
Does it really matter as Costco is a members only store. To become a member, one has to be part of a select group. Unless non members know a member, the golf equipment is out of reach.
James, when are you gonna do a giveaway on them? Kirkland golf clubs.. When you are doing comparing different clubs, you need to use 2 different kind of balls. You need to use a white ball for club and a green ball or some other color. For the utter club 😂
It’s funny pxg sued Taylormade over the p790 when they first came out. Then Taylormade sued Kirkland over the p790
The PXG lawsuit failed cause taylormade actually came out with the “speed foam” first back in the 90’s in one of the burner irons.
@@1mtis from what I heard they came to some kind of mutual agreement. Kind of eluded to taylormade giving up some R and d. If I remember right.
@@JoeSchwa well how come all the big oem don’t sue those “magic drivers you swing like a 7i but go further and straighter than a real driver” for false advertising?
@@JoeSchwa so taylormade didn’t bring up the p790 other product in the lawsuit
Wishon Golf I believe made hollow body irons before anyone else. That would include Taylormade. In fact Wishon Golf still make hollow body irons. I'm about to purchase a set. We have to wonder if Taylormade is waging "Law-fare" against Costco just to reduce competition. Kirkland irons do cause a large amount of disruption in the golf iron market. So that question is on my mind. No one wants to litigate Tom Wishon. He has designed and built more golf irons than anyone in history and is a true master engineer.
James, you can buy that feeling after all. 1700.00+ for the PXG with a logo as big as the Kirk's.
That cost does not include the cost of woods, wedges , putter and balls. For the average golfers that is both unnecessary and likely a waste of pounds or dollars. Like everything else in life, find the best value for the task at hand. Most major brands sell their "out of date" clubs at deep discounts and the D2C brands are an excellent choice. I am a fan of your channel and content, but you've flogged this subject long enough.
If TM are taking cosco for coping their tech but they're a fraction of the price doesn't that just show people that TM are overpricing their irons
I got my Tour edge exotics for $399 5-gap.
The TaylorMade lawsuit is going to have what we in the States call the "Streisand Effect". It will bring more (and favorable for CostCo) attention to a problem TaylorMade would like to g away, much as Barbara Streisand's lawsuit to suppress publicly obtained photographs of a property she owns on the California coast. Her lawsuit created huge interest and the exposure of her property went almost universal in the US.
For CostCo, any advertisement is good for the brand, especially when it is provided by a competitor.