I have an .08/34 , got it for my 17th birthday for deer hunting. I'll be 35 this year and have shot several other 30-06 rifles, the Brazilian Mauser is hands down the best gun I've ever shot in my life. It has almost NO kick whatsoever.
Great infos on this video, thanks for putting up the effort and present it to us. I’ve got a m954 in 30-06 made in Itajubá. Those BR mausers are quite common to find up here in Canada still, but as you stated they are mostly in rough shape. The main reason is that the military used them for many decades as boot camp rifles to train their grunts, even after adopting the FAL as a main weapon. So you can only imagine year after year of abuse on those boot camps by conscripts just trying to survive would take a good beat on them. Still good shooters though. Thanks again, take care.
Dude this video was very insightful to me. I'm researching for my master's deegree about an brazilian native american people that in 1940's they had at least 50 Mauser Rifles. Everyone (and by that I wanna mean farmers that was searching for steal more lands) on the south region of that state (Mato Grosso do Sul) was well-aware of no one would or could pass across their native american lands without exposing yourself to an highly chance to be murder by a gun shoot. Thanks a lot !
My Grandpa served in 54' in the Brazillian Army and they still used the 1908/34 Carbine, we got tons of rounds of 7mm Mauser dated to 1942 and i'm pretty sure those are still good to fire.
i have one of the converted 08/34 .30 models and I have to say that I love the thing. One of these was the first rifle I ever purchased way back when I was 19 and was my first firearms purchase. The reason I bought it was because it was chambered in .30-06 which I knew I could find anywhere. Unfortunately I had to sell that and a few others when I was without work for a few months. But fast forward over 2 decades later.. jeeze... getting old, and I finally added a 08/34 to the collection again. I again looked for the .30-06 model more for nostalgia than ease of finding ammo because between the late 90's and today 7mm mauser is far easier to come by thanks to internet ordering. Interestingly it seems that these days the .30-06 models are a little harder to come by and seem to command a bit of a premium for a nice example. I paid more for this brazilian boomstick than I did for my actual early K98k I bought just a year or two prior. But.. Still a very fine weapon. I know the 08/34 .30 wasn't the focus of this video but still glad to hear some information on the .30 model as information on them isn't very plentiful. Many thanks!
@@MilsurpWorld hey I’ve come across a 1908 in 7mm for $600 non matching typical condition for a South American rifle, is it a good deal or over the going price?
I just ordered a 1908 Brazilian from LTC.. I like the 7x57.. it is a great round! Keep up the great videos. Very informative.. I've been looking at Civil War rifles and revolvers lately..
I shoot this rifle on the army, but the "modernized" version, chambered to fire 762x51. It's called mosque-FAL. Yes, beacause it shoots same ammuntion as the Fn-Fal
For many years, I wanted a Mauser 98 style hunting rifle in 7x57, but could never really find one. I couldn't afford the occasional Ruger Model 77 or Winchester Model 70 one might encounter, being a younger single-income dad. Fast forward to my old age and the advent of Gunbroker online sales (you CAN do this EVEN in California) and lo and behold, I found, in the space f a few months, in 7x57, a gorgeous Venezuelan FN Mauser that had been beautifully sporterized with a Mannlicher stock, a Ruger Model 77, and... a Brazilian M1908 DWM Mauser that Bubba his ownself had sporterized with a Bishop stock, open sights, drilled and tapped, and none-too-pretty, PERFECT for actually USING in the field. Being divorced and subsequently remarried to an animal lover, my hunting days are (mostly) behind me (Dearest books cruises during hunting season), my shooting is now almost exclusively at innocent paper targets. I slapped Redfield scopes on the Brazilian with acceptable results in all bullet weights, and the Brazilian with POOR results. The Brazilian threw patterns rather than groups. I was about to get rid of it after moving the Redfield off the Brazilian ugly duckling and onto the Ruger, which gives EXCELLENT results with the 145 grain range bullets, when the pandemic struck, and I ceased shooting for a while. I then read that the Brazilian Mausers not only had very deep throats, which I had already discovered with my handloads, but also, the 1-8.6" rifling really only stabilizes the heavier bullets. Just for giggles, I bought a cheap Simmons 4x, threw it back on the Brazilian, loaded up some 175 grain Speer Grand Slam bullets seated as far out as I could get to function through the magazine, and began experimenting. To my surprise, if I let the barrel COOL between shots, I am now getting around 2 MOA or so with the old Brazilian Beater rifle. If I am hasty and shoot with a hot barrel I get a bit over 3 MOA, not fantastic by any means but far better than the 6-7 MOA I got from the lighter bullets. I only paid $250 plus other charges for the rifle, so I am chalking this up to entertainment expense, but, if I get 2 MOA out of a cold, first-shot barrel, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt with this old beater at modest ranges. The recoil is very mild, on par with my 6.5x55 rifles, and it is if nothing else INTERESTING with the Deutsche Munitions und Waffenfabrik markings. Thanks for an extremely informative video! By the way, I do NOT endorse sporterizing Milsurp rifles. These rifles are HISTORY... I am, however, from a generation and an age where Milsurp rifles were plentiful and dirt cheap, and it often made economic sense at the time for someone who could not afford a modern proper hunting rifle made by Remington, Winchester, later Ruger, or the more expensive European rifles, to sporterize a Milsurp rifle to get something decent to hunt with. I think that someday, sporterized Milsurps may become a collector genre all their own, but for Heaven's sake, if you have a Milsurp in its original configuration and furniture, PLEASE leave it that way! We do not really OWN these pieces of history, we are merely CUSTODIANS of pieces that can outlast US for generations, and hopefully, tyrannical governments will not melt them all down into rebar after we are gone. Again, thanks for an awesome video!
Just picked up the VZ-24 (you’re video rifle #490 / I found its brother #400) and cleaning it up. Really good video you did on it too! I also just got a m91 Argentine Calvary carbine that was Bubba’d; someone removed front sight, ground off rear sight and drilled and tapped so they could mount a scope (all matching rifle too) I know made me sick too! I bought as a shooter, because it’s matching and bore is still amazing. Enough of the rambling though ... really enjoy your videos and podcasts, I learn a lot from ya!
@@MilsurpWorld yeah, it’s 7mm and the right side has the “PM” prefix for “policia militar” military police. It also has the bent bolt with the knurling on the underside. The stock , barrel and receiver have 400 serial number the bolt is 128 but I read most were mismatched because the armorers removed the bolts while storing. My stock also has 4201-00017405 on the side not sure what that is. The reviver is stamped Ceskoslovenska / Zbrojovka / BRNO. 15,000 were supposed to go to southern China but they went to Brazil instead. Found this info from the internet posts stating it’s Brazilian. Like you said no books to really verify so going on what is on threads.
I've seen a 1908/34 and an 08/34 .30 in the same shop b4. It was a year ago now. I didn't pick up either because the 1908/34 was shot out and 08/34 .30's stock had a nasty Crack in the wrist. I was very bummed.
I've got a Brazilian 1898 mod 1908. Even though it say mod 1908 what does the 15 Novermbro de 1889. Made in Deutsche Waffen - UND Munitionsfabriken Berlin Is it still chambered in 7×57mm Cause no where does it say what it chambered in. Mine looks like the one in the very bottom of your video.
I have one in the family that is just marked "mod 1908", 7mm with matching serial numbers, no front sight protector, Brazilian seal, and "DEUISCHE WAFFEN - UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN OBERNDORFAN." Marked on the side. No signs of conversion or Czech origin, only German and Brazilian marks, any thoughts?
Thanks I think that answered my question. I've got one just like your talking about made by the same company. It's all matching numbers but no where does it say what it's chambered in. It's a mod 1908 that was marked in 15 de Novermbro de 1889. I thinks it's 7×57mm not a 100 percent tho
I have a 1908 in very good condition ,that has been drilled and tapped for a side mount three holes ,but the bolt is still straight ? I can't find any reference anywhere ,that says 1908s were made into sniper rifles ?[doesnt mean they were not] I dont think this was done by a Civilian owner
I have an .08/34 , got it for my 17th birthday for deer hunting. I'll be 35 this year and have shot several other 30-06 rifles, the Brazilian Mauser is hands down the best gun I've ever shot in my life. It has almost NO kick whatsoever.
Great infos on this video, thanks for putting up the effort and present it to us. I’ve got a m954 in 30-06 made in Itajubá. Those BR mausers are quite common to find up here in Canada still, but as you stated they are mostly in rough shape. The main reason is that the military used them for many decades as boot camp rifles to train their grunts, even after adopting the FAL as a main weapon. So you can only imagine year after year of abuse on those boot camps by conscripts just trying to survive would take a good beat on them. Still good shooters though.
Thanks again, take care.
We still use them for that. Although usually without the bolt. Kinda sad actually...
Dude this video was very insightful to me. I'm researching for my master's deegree about an brazilian native american people that in 1940's they had at least 50 Mauser Rifles. Everyone (and by that I wanna mean farmers that was searching for steal more lands) on the south region of that state (Mato Grosso do Sul) was well-aware of no one would or could pass across their native american lands without exposing yourself to an highly chance to be murder by a gun shoot. Thanks a lot !
My Grandpa served in 54' in the Brazillian Army and they still used the 1908/34 Carbine, we got tons of rounds of 7mm Mauser dated to 1942 and i'm pretty sure those are still good to fire.
That's really cool
pode me vender alguns cartuchos ?
Na verdade, ainda está em operação no exército pelo serviço militar obrigatório nos tiros de guerras .
I saved a straight 08 from years of rust and neglect and it’s just as accurate as my Husqvarna m38! Huge 7mm fan because of it!
i have one of the converted 08/34 .30 models and I have to say that I love the thing. One of these was the first rifle I ever purchased way back when I was 19 and was my first firearms purchase. The reason I bought it was because it was chambered in .30-06 which I knew I could find anywhere. Unfortunately I had to sell that and a few others when I was without work for a few months. But fast forward over 2 decades later.. jeeze... getting old, and I finally added a 08/34 to the collection again. I again looked for the .30-06 model more for nostalgia than ease of finding ammo because between the late 90's and today 7mm mauser is far easier to come by thanks to internet ordering. Interestingly it seems that these days the .30-06 models are a little harder to come by and seem to command a bit of a premium for a nice example. I paid more for this brazilian boomstick than I did for my actual early K98k I bought just a year or two prior. But.. Still a very fine weapon. I know the 08/34 .30 wasn't the focus of this video but still glad to hear some information on the .30 model as information on them isn't very plentiful. Many thanks!
The revolutionary rifle looks awesome, essentially a K98 in 7mm what’s not to love. #7mm master race.
7mm is best mm
@@MilsurpWorld hey I’ve come across a 1908 in 7mm for $600 non matching typical condition for a South American rifle, is it a good deal or over the going price?
I just ordered a 1908 Brazilian from LTC.. I like the 7x57.. it is a great round! Keep up the great videos. Very informative.. I've been looking at Civil War rifles and revolvers lately..
That solves most of my confusion with mine. Thanks alot. Great video. BTW . Awesome family, the babies grow fast.
He's growing super fast!
I shoot this rifle on the army, but the "modernized" version, chambered to fire 762x51. It's called mosque-FAL. Yes, beacause it shoots same ammuntion as the Fn-Fal
Great video. I am still in the hunt for one of these. I am a huge fan of the crests on these beauties
Well done Danny. I really enjoyed this video.
Very nice rifle. I'd love dedicated videos on more of the South American Mausers (Argentine, Chilean, etc)
For many years, I wanted a Mauser 98 style hunting rifle in 7x57, but could never really find one. I couldn't afford the occasional Ruger Model 77 or Winchester Model 70 one might encounter, being a younger single-income dad. Fast forward to my old age and the advent of Gunbroker online sales (you CAN do this EVEN in California) and lo and behold, I found, in the space f a few months, in 7x57, a gorgeous Venezuelan FN Mauser that had been beautifully sporterized with a Mannlicher stock, a Ruger Model 77, and... a Brazilian M1908 DWM Mauser that Bubba his ownself had sporterized with a Bishop stock, open sights, drilled and tapped, and none-too-pretty, PERFECT for actually USING in the field. Being divorced and subsequently remarried to an animal lover, my hunting days are (mostly) behind me (Dearest books cruises during hunting season), my shooting is now almost exclusively at innocent paper targets. I slapped Redfield scopes on the Brazilian with acceptable results in all bullet weights, and the Brazilian with POOR results. The Brazilian threw patterns rather than groups. I was about to get rid of it after moving the Redfield off the Brazilian ugly duckling and onto the Ruger, which gives EXCELLENT results with the 145 grain range bullets, when the pandemic struck, and I ceased shooting for a while. I then read that the Brazilian Mausers not only had very deep throats, which I had already discovered with my handloads, but also, the 1-8.6" rifling really only stabilizes the heavier bullets. Just for giggles, I bought a cheap Simmons 4x, threw it back on the Brazilian, loaded up some 175 grain Speer Grand Slam bullets seated as far out as I could get to function through the magazine, and began experimenting. To my surprise, if I let the barrel COOL between shots, I am now getting around 2 MOA or so with the old Brazilian Beater rifle. If I am hasty and shoot with a hot barrel I get a bit over 3 MOA, not fantastic by any means but far better than the 6-7 MOA I got from the lighter bullets. I only paid $250 plus other charges for the rifle, so I am chalking this up to entertainment expense, but, if I get 2 MOA out of a cold, first-shot barrel, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt with this old beater at modest ranges. The recoil is very mild, on par with my 6.5x55 rifles, and it is if nothing else INTERESTING with the Deutsche Munitions und Waffenfabrik markings. Thanks for an extremely informative video! By the way, I do NOT endorse sporterizing Milsurp rifles. These rifles are HISTORY... I am, however, from a generation and an age where Milsurp rifles were plentiful and dirt cheap, and it often made economic sense at the time for someone who could not afford a modern proper hunting rifle made by Remington, Winchester, later Ruger, or the more expensive European rifles, to sporterize a Milsurp rifle to get something decent to hunt with. I think that someday, sporterized Milsurps may become a collector genre all their own, but for Heaven's sake, if you have a Milsurp in its original configuration and furniture, PLEASE leave it that way! We do not really OWN these pieces of history, we are merely CUSTODIANS of pieces that can outlast US for generations, and hopefully, tyrannical governments will not melt them all down into rebar after we are gone. Again, thanks for an awesome video!
Muy buen comentario!!
Just picked up the VZ-24 (you’re video rifle #490 / I found its brother #400) and cleaning it up. Really good video you did on it too! I also just got a m91 Argentine Calvary carbine that was Bubba’d; someone removed front sight, ground off rear sight and drilled and tapped so they could mount a scope (all matching rifle too) I know made me sick too! I bought as a shooter, because it’s matching and bore is still amazing. Enough of the rambling though ... really enjoy your videos and podcasts, I learn a lot from ya!
Your VZ24 is a Brazilian?
@@MilsurpWorld yeah, it’s 7mm and the right side has the “PM” prefix for “policia militar” military police. It also has the bent bolt with the knurling on the underside. The stock , barrel and receiver have 400 serial number the bolt is 128 but I read most were mismatched because the armorers removed the bolts while storing. My stock also has 4201-00017405 on the side not sure what that is. The reviver is stamped Ceskoslovenska / Zbrojovka / BRNO. 15,000 were supposed to go to southern China but they went to Brazil instead. Found this info from the internet posts stating it’s Brazilian. Like you said no books to really verify so going on what is on threads.
@@MilsurpWorld just watched your Rebel Mauser video again …. Wood on mine is darker, but that’s the gun! Thanks again for making these videos!
You had a slip of the tongue at 3:49 WW1 not WW2
Another great video Thank you
Yeah, at another point I said 1 instead of 2...
I've seen a 1908/34 and an 08/34 .30 in the same shop b4. It was a year ago now. I didn't pick up either because the 1908/34 was shot out and 08/34 .30's stock had a nasty Crack in the wrist. I was very bummed.
No Brasil essas armas são usadas em campos de treinamento, apenas a carcaça sem ferrolho e quebradas
Always informative
I've got a Brazilian 1898 mod 1908. Even though it say mod 1908 what does the 15 Novermbro de 1889.
Made in Deutsche Waffen - UND
Munitionsfabriken Berlin
Is it still chambered in 7×57mm
Cause no where does it say what it chambered in. Mine looks like the one in the very bottom of your video.
Nov 15 1889
artsandculture.google.com/entity/proclamation-of-the-republic/m0gvtj28?hl=en
I have one in the family that is just marked "mod 1908", 7mm with matching serial numbers, no front sight protector, Brazilian seal, and "DEUISCHE WAFFEN - UND MUNITIONSFABRIKEN OBERNDORFAN." Marked on the side. No signs of conversion or Czech origin, only German and Brazilian marks, any thoughts?
That is a Brazilian 1908.
Thanks I think that answered my question. I've got one just like your talking about made by the same company. It's all matching numbers but no where does it say what it's chambered in. It's a mod 1908 that was marked in 15 de Novermbro de 1889. I thinks it's 7×57mm not a 100 percent tho
I have a 1908 in very good condition ,that has been drilled and tapped for a side mount three holes ,but the bolt is still straight ? I can't find any reference anywhere ,that says 1908s were made into sniper rifles ?[doesnt mean they were not] I dont think this was done by a Civilian owner
Will a Seitengewehr 98 bayonet fit on a long 1908?
Very cool piece of art but white crayon would look good on the markings.
I wonder if the 500 extra rifles were CZs way of saying your paying for any contract over runsZ
👍🏻👍🏻 I just bought one like that at gander mountain,
A 1908/34 or a 08/34 .30?
@@MilsurpWorld 7mm
Nice, what did that run you?
@@MilsurpWorld $325.00 plus tx
Eventually you are going to have me buying South American Mausers...
You'd better hurry up if you want them, they're getting to be going up towards German mauser prices recently
They are cool
What about the 1908 Short?
What about them? I mentioned them in the video a couple times.
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Love that rifle. How much? lol
I saw one in a shop a few weeks ago for $500. Might go back and see if it's still there.
@@bradleys2320 yeah that's a good price
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Consigo importar para o Brasil ? aqui não temos indisponíveis .
❤🌹 God bless you 🙏🙏! You are late to the party > P-R-O-M-O-S-M !
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