Thanks Fortune Cookie for all the great info over the years. I have collected Ruger single actions for years. Almost as long as it has taken to find powder and primers. I really appreciated your series on the Skeeter loads. I have all the Rugers from 22 to 44 magnum now.It was very difficult to find the 357 with a 9mm cylinder. I finely found an old flattop model. An old one. Working on reloading for them all now.Thanks to you. I hope you can continue. You are a Blessing.
I love your videos but here's the biggest problem: they make me want to buy more revolvers. I've never wanted a convertible Blackhawk so badly in my life now. This is a bad time to go looking for Blackhawks, too...
Bought my .45 convertible in like '84; expressly to use the ACP cylinder in the field cause a guy could carry more rounds of ACP than Long Colt easily. But the problem you illuminated immediately manifested itself. Those expensive factory loads would drop right in but my cast bullet handloads could only be forced in for about 2 outta 10 rounds. Pretty much gave up on it. Just this year I thought I would work on the problem and bought a Lee .451 sizing die (in the desperate hope it could help, as my usual bullets were sized .452) Yahoo! Things improved and with a little experimenting with seating depth my usable round rate jumped up to 100%. Very accurate to boot. Now I'm sad it took me almost 40 years to get here.
My favorite convertible revolver is my Freedom Arms Premier Grade model 83 with 7 1/2" barrel in 454 Casull with accessory cylinders in 45 Colt, 45 Winchester Magnum and 45 Automatic cartridges. I reload all 4 cartridges which even these days reduces cost. However 45 Automatic ammunition is cheaper to reload for since large pistol primers are not available.
Even the loading and unloading in this video lit my fire. Great video. Also there is nothing like a single action Ruger. And I mean nothing. Love those revolvers! No wonder they've been around for so long. To stay on topic. I like to reload the 125g Hornady HP/XTP(.355") in my 9mm Ruger convertible revolver. Fits in like it was made for it.
Several mfg.s make them. If they use moon clips, it makes reloading fast and easy, which fast reloading is not a function of Ruger single actions. The light loads in revolvers is always easier than semi-auto.
The only issue I have with my Ruger 357/9 MM is the throat dia. of the 9 MM cylinder is too small for cast lead loads to chamber for what I would have to size them at and shoot accurately, jacketed 9 MM reloads are not an issue.
Another great vid FC. I need your wisdom to a question FC. Do you believe that neck tension on once or twice fired reloaded brass on straight wall cartridge will loosen tension over time, like a couple of years?
Where do you get one of those 45 long colt's? I've had a 45 colt since the 1980s love shooting and reloading for it. Keep hearing you UA-cam people talk about the 45 long colt but all I can find is the 45 colt. Are you sure they make a 45 long colt ?
Haha, I smell what you're stepping in. .45 Long Colt is a misnomer because there never was a .45 Short Colt. There were both .38 Short and Long Colts. I could go on but some people will continue to call it the .45 Long Colt anyway so I won't bother. 🙂🙋♂️
@@luvtahandload7692 Welllll....... Technically I believe 45 LONG Colt would be a 454 Casull. Dick Casull stretched and strengthened a 45 Colt case to produce the 454 Casull, circa 1958/59. Or perhaps now it would be the 460 S&W (a lengthened 454 Casull case)?
@@luvtahandload7692 Well said.. no such caliber as 45 long colt. I've had this conversation many times.. marketing has only made this misinformation worse.
Going further; I would argue one should stop calling this caliber .45 Colt entirely even though this is technically correct. This caliber has long been bedeviled by confusable rounds that make the ".45 Colt" designation tedious and burdensome, Have carried this caliber nearly 50 years now and know of what I speak. In THIS century the confusable is the .45 Automatic COLT Pistol round which is far more common. When you say .45 LONG COLT everyone (even nongun people) know instinctively what you are talking about. It is often those "nongun people" who stand behind the counter of the shop where you need to buy .45LC stuff. So say it once and get it right - .45 Long Colt.
A big issue with revolvers in auto cartridges is, chamber throats , most are set up for small jacketed ( plinking ammo) and good cast (sizes 1thou over ) wont chamber in the cylinders , A good way to prevent , and for consistent accurate ammo , is to ream the cylinder throats , ( did mine on my ruger 45lc / 45acp cylinders and I can get better accuracy and reliability)
Where do you get one of those 45 long colt's? I've had a 45 colt since the 1980s love shooting and reloading for it. Keep hearing you UA-cam people talk about the 45 long colt but all I can find is the 45 colt. Are you sure they make a 45 long colt ?
45 Long Colt is 45 Colt... When I 1st got my SRH 454 Casull that shoots 45 Colt also. I asked for 45 Long Colt and they had no ideal what I was talking about, after researching I found out 45 long Colt is 45 Colt. I think people referred to cartridge that way because you can also shoot 45 S & W Schofield out of it. Which is just my guess that people referred to as short colt, which it wasn't. At least that's what I get from my Hornady Reloading Manual. Bottom line is theres no such thing as short or long Colt to my knowledge. If anyone knows otherwise feel free to chime in.
@@454casull5 You are correct. The verbal designation of 45 "Long" or "Short" Colt likely began around 1877, when U.S. Ordnance Arsenals ceased loading the 45 Colt, and began loading the new 45 Government round as a military replacement. The 45 Government is simply a 45 S&W Schofield case with the rim diameter reduced to the same as 45 Colt. The 45 Colt was originally loaded with 40 grains Dupont Rifle (FFFg) powder under a 255 gr bullet. This was a powerful load, pushing the 255 gr bullet at 1000+ fps, resulting in a heavy recoil that made it very difficult to train new recruits to shoot the Colt Single Action. Arsenals soon reduced the 45 Colt charge to 30 grains under the 255 grain bullet, and later also reduced the bullet weight to 230 grains to keep recoil more manageable for new recruits. At the reduced bullet weight and charge weight there was no point in having the long 45 Colt case, so the 45 Government case was developed to load with a 230 gr bullet and 28 grains of a calibrated blend of FFg and FFFg to achieve 800 fps. In 1910, John Browning had developed the 45 ACP cartridge to use a 200 gr bullet at 900 fps. U.S. Ordnance requested that Browning modify his cartridge ballistics to duplicate the bullet weight and ballistics of the 45 Government loading of 230gr bullet propelled by 28 grs FFg/FFFg blended black powder.
@@63DW89A You are absolutely correct..! I actually have pictures of 45 government cartridges and box. Most people today aren't aware that the 45 government ever existed. Marketing & manufacturing have made the 45 long colt misinformation worse.
@@badgerrrlattin35 In "Cartridges of the World" it is "45 Colt". In every reloading manual I've consulted it is "45 Colt". In U.S. Ordnance material from 1873 onward it is "45 Colt". All my various manufactured brass is head stamped "45 Colt". Why create potentially dangerous confusion among new hand loaders using a colloquial name that has NO reference in any historical or loading reference literature?
I have heard that "Christmas is a Joyful Season," and that I should "Make a Joyful Noise Unto the Lord," but I have never done any "Joyful Reloading!"
I love this channel. Thanks FC45 for well produced and educational videos on reloading.
This and elvisammo are the one's I always go to for bullet knowledge.
Thanks Fortune Cookie for all the great info over the years. I have collected Ruger single actions for years. Almost as long as it has taken to find powder and primers. I really appreciated your series on the Skeeter loads. I have all the Rugers from 22 to 44 magnum now.It was very difficult to find the 357 with a 9mm cylinder. I finely found an old flattop model. An old one. Working on reloading for them all now.Thanks to you. I hope you can continue. You are a Blessing.
I love your videos but here's the biggest problem: they make me want to buy more revolvers. I've never wanted a convertible Blackhawk so badly in my life now. This is a bad time to go looking for Blackhawks, too...
Bought my .45 convertible in like '84; expressly to use the ACP cylinder in the field cause a guy could carry more rounds of ACP than Long Colt easily. But the problem you illuminated immediately manifested itself. Those expensive factory loads would drop right in but my cast bullet handloads could only be forced in for about 2 outta 10 rounds. Pretty much gave up on it. Just this year I thought I would work on the problem and bought a Lee .451 sizing die (in the desperate hope it could help, as my usual bullets were sized .452) Yahoo! Things improved and with a little experimenting with seating depth my usable round rate jumped up to 100%. Very accurate to boot. Now I'm sad it took me almost 40 years to get here.
My favorite convertible revolver is my Freedom Arms Premier Grade model 83 with 7 1/2" barrel in 454 Casull with accessory cylinders in 45 Colt, 45 Winchester Magnum and 45 Automatic cartridges.
I reload all 4 cartridges which even these days reduces cost. However 45 Automatic ammunition is cheaper to reload for since large pistol primers are not available.
Even the loading and unloading in this video lit my fire. Great video.
Also there is nothing like a single action Ruger. And I mean nothing. Love those revolvers! No wonder they've been around for so long.
To stay on topic. I like to reload the 125g Hornady HP/XTP(.355") in my 9mm Ruger convertible revolver. Fits in like it was made for it.
Thank you for another addition to your famous educational and reliable videos on the science and art of reloading.
I love how revolvers have built in case gauges, great demonstration, Mr. Cookie. Happy Sunday 👍
I don't have the acp 45 cylinder but I enjoyed your video
I primarily shoot 45 ACP through my Blackhawk convertible. Less powder, lighter bullets and lower recoil compared to 45 Colt.
Some Nice steel.
Now I see what I was doing wrong. Thanks.
That's one thing I want is a 9mm revolver 38 is very expensive right now
Several mfg.s make them. If they use moon clips, it makes reloading fast and easy, which fast reloading is not a function of Ruger single actions. The light loads in revolvers is always easier than semi-auto.
Always interesting
Well done cookie.
love shooting 45 acp out of my blackhawk. a lot of fun.
Been making loads for my brothers m1917 revolver using .45 auto rim data but with .45 acp brass
Outstanding video very informative thank you sir
Sencé, My Thoughts would be your sizing die, causing any issue . My cast bullets are .452 or .356 and I use the Dillon dies
The only issue I have with my Ruger 357/9 MM is the throat dia. of the 9 MM cylinder is too small for cast lead loads to chamber for what I would have to size them at and shoot accurately, jacketed 9 MM reloads are not an issue.
I would love to get a 45acp cylinder for my Ruger Blackhawk Bisley 45 Colt revolver.
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great information ,,would you ever consider doing a video on reloading light 50-70 government loads for old rolling block rifles?thanks
Another great vid FC. I need your wisdom to a question FC. Do you believe that neck tension on once or twice fired reloaded brass on straight wall cartridge will loosen tension over time, like a couple of years?
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Where do you get one of those 45 long colt's? I've had a 45 colt since the 1980s love shooting and reloading for it. Keep hearing you UA-cam people talk about the 45 long colt but all I can find is the 45 colt. Are you sure they make a 45 long colt ?
Haha, I smell what you're stepping in.
.45 Long Colt is a misnomer because there never was a .45 Short Colt. There were both .38 Short and Long Colts. I could go on but some people will continue to call it the .45 Long Colt anyway so I won't bother. 🙂🙋♂️
@@luvtahandload7692
Welllll....... Technically I believe 45 LONG Colt would be a 454 Casull. Dick Casull stretched and strengthened a 45 Colt case to produce the 454 Casull, circa 1958/59.
Or perhaps now it would be the 460 S&W (a lengthened 454 Casull case)?
@@luvtahandload7692
Well said.. no such caliber as 45 long colt.
I've had this conversation many times.. marketing has only made this misinformation worse.
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Agreed... but I think the 460 s&w would be 45 Extra long colt!
Lol...
Going further; I would argue one should stop calling this caliber .45 Colt entirely even though this is technically correct. This caliber has long been bedeviled by confusable rounds that make the ".45 Colt" designation tedious and burdensome, Have carried this caliber nearly 50 years now and know of what I speak. In THIS century the confusable is the .45 Automatic COLT Pistol round which is far more common. When you say .45 LONG COLT everyone (even nongun people) know instinctively what you are talking about. It is often those "nongun people" who stand behind the counter of the shop where you need to buy .45LC stuff. So say it once and get it right - .45 Long Colt.
A big issue with revolvers in auto cartridges is, chamber throats , most are set up for small jacketed ( plinking ammo) and good cast (sizes 1thou over ) wont chamber in the cylinders , A good way to prevent , and for consistent accurate ammo , is to ream the cylinder throats , ( did mine on my ruger 45lc / 45acp cylinders and I can get better accuracy and reliability)
Careful with that one...it will load a 44 mag without noticing.
Where do you get one of those 45 long colt's? I've had a 45 colt since the 1980s love shooting and reloading for it. Keep hearing you UA-cam people talk about the 45 long colt but all I can find is the 45 colt. Are you sure they make a 45 long colt ?
45 Long Colt is 45 Colt... When I 1st got my SRH 454 Casull that shoots 45 Colt also. I asked for 45 Long Colt and they had no ideal what I was talking about, after researching I found out 45 long Colt is 45 Colt. I think people referred to cartridge that way because you can also shoot 45 S & W Schofield out of it. Which is just my guess that people referred to as short colt, which it wasn't. At least that's what I get from my Hornady Reloading Manual. Bottom line is theres no such thing as short or long Colt to my knowledge. If anyone knows otherwise feel free to chime in.
@@454casull5 You are correct. The verbal designation of 45 "Long" or "Short" Colt likely began around 1877, when U.S. Ordnance Arsenals ceased loading the 45 Colt, and began loading the new 45 Government round as a military replacement. The 45 Government is simply a 45 S&W Schofield case with the rim diameter reduced to the same as 45 Colt. The 45 Colt was originally loaded with 40 grains Dupont Rifle (FFFg) powder under a 255 gr bullet. This was a powerful load, pushing the 255 gr bullet at 1000+ fps, resulting in a heavy recoil that made it very difficult to train new recruits to shoot the Colt Single Action. Arsenals soon reduced the 45 Colt charge to 30 grains under the 255 grain bullet, and later also reduced the bullet weight to 230 grains to keep recoil more manageable for new recruits. At the reduced bullet weight and charge weight there was no point in having the long 45 Colt case, so the 45 Government case was developed to load with a 230 gr bullet and 28 grains of a calibrated blend of FFg and FFFg to achieve 800 fps. In 1910, John Browning had developed the 45 ACP cartridge to use a 200 gr bullet at 900 fps. U.S. Ordnance requested that Browning modify his cartridge ballistics to duplicate the bullet weight and ballistics of the 45 Government loading of 230gr bullet propelled by 28 grs FFg/FFFg blended black powder.
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You are absolutely correct..! I actually have pictures of 45 government cartridges and box.
Most people today aren't aware that the 45 government ever existed. Marketing & manufacturing have made the 45 long colt misinformation worse.
Allow me to further add that you should always refer to this caliber .45 Long Colt or .45 LC or .45 Long. Even though .45 Colt it techniqlly
@@badgerrrlattin35 In "Cartridges of the World" it is "45 Colt". In every reloading manual I've consulted it is "45 Colt". In U.S. Ordnance material from 1873 onward it is "45 Colt". All my various manufactured brass is head stamped "45 Colt". Why create potentially dangerous confusion among new hand loaders using a colloquial name that has NO reference in any historical or loading reference literature?