As someone facing the prospect of a dx of PV (just had blood work including JAK2 drawn today) and a recently retired ICU RN, your presentation was outstanding. It puts it all in perspective. You're an outstanding teacher!
I had Polycythemia and had to get a phlebotomy about once a month, because my Hemoglobin was around 55 g/dl and my Doctor ordered it. Finally I wondered about people with Anemia that were short of red-blood-cells analogously like an opposite to Polycythemia! Then I looked up the foods that people with Anemia do not eat because they are iron blockers. Many of these foods are called Oxalate's and absorb Iron. So then I started eating these foods (with Oxalate s) abundantly and after a few weeks I had my Hemoglobin checked by my Doctor and my Hemoglobin was down to 16 g/dl and now over a year later my Hemoglobin is still 16 g/dl. That is a drop of 39 g/dl’s in a very short time and it held good. Sometimes just a simple procedures are workable. Of course I believe that my mental procedures, meditations & thoughts had something added to this procedure that was synergy related that made it more effective. Make it clear that I am not prescribing anything to anyone, but expressing my own thoughts and experience. However I would recommend that medical personnel investigate this. Cordially, Robert Shrewsbury
Thanks for the information.. May I know if your RBC was also on higher side and reduced with hemoglobin too? Also may I know which Oxalate foods did you take up like beans or nuts?
@@mangeshgadhave6791 My hard-drive went bad and I lost some of the data on the particular oxalates, but I used a lot of them. I suspect that oxalic acid diluted to a Ph of say 6 may also work? I used to use oxalic acid in the assay laboratory to absorb iron from my ore, so it would assay better. However I would never do any such a thing without having my hemoglobin checked by a competent medical person, because this could be dangerous if one goes too fat and become anemic!?
@@robertshrewsbury9344 Thanks for the quick reply. Definitely I'm relying on food only and not laboratory things but just curious to know does it help in lowering RBC's too as my RBC's are still bit on higher side 6.05 even after phlebotomy every 3 months? My rest of the medical reports are normal so just trying to fix this with diet.
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Great video! You have all the specific videos I can't find anywhere else. Good quality and great explanation! Thank you ninja nerds. I found your videos right before my first hematology test. The coagulation cascade and anemia videos saved me! Keep up the great work.
The video was very beneficial ❤ I wanted to add something: Another cause to secondary polycythemia is increased thyroid hormone which leads to an increase in oxygen consumption and a decrease in oxygen supply to tissues wich leads to hypoxia that stimulates increased secretion of erythropoieten
I'm a fan of your channel since my undergrad days and now, I plan on binge watching your videos before I start medical school to give me a headstart on the basics cuz you give the most detailed yet concise explanations. Thank you for this. You really are a blessing 🥰
Thanks for the Lecture, Additionally; Apart from an increase in the number of red blood cells ("absolute polycythemia") It can also be due to a decrease in the volume of plasma ("relative polycythemia")
as someone who had a stroke 2yrs ago due to polycythemia (so diagnosed at time of stroke) this gives me new avenues of cause to explore.. Underwent bone marrow tests that proved -ve (so not primera).. have been told ever since it was "transient", despite 5 tablets a day not reducing BP.. will be back at my GP next week.... Thankyou very much
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Been battling secondary polycythemia for 2 years now and this video really helped my understanding. I think my best solution is focusing on hydration now and your other "Approach to Polycythemis" helped me with that. Thank you!!
Yeah keep yourself hydrated , take one to two 80 mg aspirin daily and donate blood every 2 months and you will be fine. He forgot to mention other causes an increase of red blood cells or secondary polycitemia Vera like the use of Anabolic steroids, smoking reduces the oxigen capacity and so is sleep Apnea.
I've been fighting this for almost 2 years now it's still unclear on how I got this my hematologist still will not give me any answers why is that ? I have been experiencing hip and joint pain ! It really irritates me that he won't give me any answers on my condition he just suggests I speak to my PCP ! Why can't he answery questions ? Just saying
@@chrisoliver9442 What are those actual symptoms of this? I'm researching on it because my rbc is slightly higher ( Only 0.4 than normal range) & I feel extreme cold sensitivity which seems intolerant to me with breathing problem like chest pain while taking deep breath.
He forgot to mention other causes an increase of red blood cells or secondary polycitemia Vera like the use of Anabolic steroids, smoking reduces the oxigen capacity and so is sleep Apnea.
I've had 2 cancer doctors. One said we will blame it on your mild sleep apnea, the other doctor said, is not a cancer, I'm on 81mg aspirin. When I checked my patient portal, one said polycythemia vera and then one said secondary but I'm in stage 2 kidney disease and my family doctor didn't tell me. So now I'm going to another cancer doctor for 3rd opinion. I itch after a shower, I burn up, shortness of breath sometimes, I'll sweat at nights sometimes. Heat about takes me out in the summer. I can tell when I have way to much blood and I'm thinking about just donating blood to get those levels down.
Have you had a bone marrow biopsy or have you been tested for the mutations? Why are they not doing regular CBCs for you? Polycythemia Vera is considered a blood cancer or chronic leukemia. Find someone who will test you for those things and monitor your blood counts as all of your symptoms are saying PV.
@@rlove3222thanks for your concern, around here, it's hard to find good doctors that will listen to you. I've been on top of oncologist after oncologist. My hubby has a great oncologist that recently came back to work after breaking his leg, he's going to look over every blood panel I've had going back 1 yr. And to the recent blood work I've had, but he will repeat every blood panel, he will probably do a bone marrow biopsy. If he does a run around with me, I'll just stop going to a doctor all together. I've been dealing with this problem for a long time, my CBC will be elevated sometimes and I rarely get infections. But it's showing my red blood cell count will go up and down. I'm all over the place and I'm becoming more frustrated cause of how I'm being tossed around. I want to have high hopes for this oncologist but when you have been done so shitty, you don't know what to expect. Hopefully I'll have answers soon.
Looking at the description of your symptoms you MAY have polycythemia ( elevated RBC) so for your peace of mind, pls, get CBC blood test -- the hemoglobin, hematocrit and RBC count must be elevated all the time then your doctor may evaluate you for further testing, for diagnosis. He may order a jak2 mutation blood test, if this test turns out negative then you don't have polycythemia vera if it's positive the you have it. If a jak2 mutation test is negative then you won't need a bone marrow test, BUT if you've had any blood clots with a negative jak2, then the doctor may order a bone marrow test.
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Actually in PV, the WHO criteria requires seeing "panmyelosis" in the bone marrow - an increase in all three lineages made by the myeloid stem cell. So someone with PV will have high red blood cells and/or high platelets and/or high hemoglobin and/or high granulocytes. High leukocytes in PV confers a higher risk of thrombosis per the WHO MIPPS-PV risk stratification algorithm. Btw, I really appreciate you talking about Secondary Polycythemia. I'm trying hard to find something to educate patients who have this - but patient guides or videos for secondary are sorely lacking.
I had Polycythemia/cancer and my g/dl's was 62 g/dl's instead of 16 and I had to get a pint of blood (Phlebotomy) drained out of me a lot. So I started taking oxalate foods until my hemoglobin was back down to normal at 16 g/dl's Strawberries are good oxalated, but so is rhubarb, but I thought rhubarb was too much Oxalate, so I stuck with strawberries. I am aware that too much oxalic can also be harmful.
I have secondary polycythemia and one of the probable causes given was my recently diagnosed severe sleep apnea and smoking. My Apnea Hypopnea Index (AHI) was 92 (average of 92 apneas/hr in sleep with a desat over 4% causing an arousal). This was most likely ongoing for years. After several phlebotomy sessions over 2 months (500 cc of blood removed each weekly session), the RBC count dropped into a safe level.
Interesting lecture, but I would add as a contributor to secondary polycycthemia - testosterone, especially for those receiving testosterone replacement therapy.
I'm doing homework and one of the questions asked me to identify any assessment findings that indicate Hypoxia. One of the findings was a ruddy purplish color. I chose this as part of my answer and was marked wrong. The feedback said ruddy purplish color can indicate COPD or Congestive heart failure and is caused by Polycythemia. So I guess in a way I was still wrong because polycethemia can result from the body responding to hypoxia? Okay I think I just answered my own question. Basically patient can have normal oxygen saturation levels and have an off color. I need to look at pictures for a side by side comparison.
Great teacher SIr.. Excellent! If one has polcythemia (secondary) From trt , and does not get rid of some blood. How long will it take to get back to a normal hemoglobin and hematacrit if they get off of trt. Thanks
At one time i got really sick and had blood work done at the ER. O had high hematocrit and high bilirubin, still never found out why but i was drinking alcohol a whole lot
I know a person who told me they have cancer of the blood. They were producing too much red blood cells. They have this person taking meds. This will eventually lead to either kidney and or liver cancer. . After this video. I am frustrated at doctors for not evaluating and treating the issue
This was helpful really I’m not a med student but I was just told I have Polycythemia secondary, but what happens if someone has both polycythemia and Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome?
I have recently been diagnosed with Secondary Polycythemia. I have been told to consult a Hematologist. I am scared. I hope I don't have kidney cancer. What should I do?
Secondary due to medications. I had to have a bone marrow biopsy and tests for the mutations. I had a TIA almost 9 years ago and am treated with phlebotomies and aspirin.
If there is an increased propensity to clot then why should there be increased bleeding/an increased prothrombin time?? I am confused. Can you please reply to explain?
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As someone facing the prospect of a dx of PV (just had blood work including JAK2 drawn today) and a recently retired ICU RN, your presentation was outstanding. It puts it all in perspective. You're an outstanding teacher!
I had Polycythemia and had to get a phlebotomy about once a month, because my Hemoglobin was around 55 g/dl and my Doctor ordered it.
Finally I wondered about people with Anemia that were short of red-blood-cells analogously like an opposite to Polycythemia!
Then I looked up the foods that people with Anemia do not eat because they are iron blockers.
Many of these foods are called Oxalate's and absorb Iron. So then I started eating these foods (with Oxalate s) abundantly and after a
few weeks I had my Hemoglobin checked by my Doctor and my Hemoglobin was down to 16 g/dl and now over a year later my Hemoglobin is still 16 g/dl. That is a drop of 39 g/dl’s in a very short time and it held good. Sometimes just a simple procedures are workable.
Of course I believe that my mental procedures, meditations & thoughts had something added to this procedure that was synergy related that made it more effective.
Make it clear that I am not prescribing
anything to anyone, but expressing my own thoughts and experience.
However I would recommend that medical personnel investigate this.
Cordially, Robert Shrewsbury
Thanks for the information.. May I know if your RBC was also on higher side and reduced with hemoglobin too?
Also may I know which Oxalate foods did you take up like beans or nuts?
@@mangeshgadhave6791 My hard-drive went bad and I lost some of the data on the particular oxalates, but I used a lot of them.
I suspect that oxalic acid diluted to a Ph of say 6 may also work? I used to use oxalic acid in the assay laboratory to absorb iron from my ore, so it would assay better. However I would never do any such a thing without having my hemoglobin checked by a competent medical person, because this could be dangerous if one goes too fat and become anemic!?
@@robertshrewsbury9344 Thanks for the quick reply. Definitely I'm relying on food only and not laboratory things but just curious to know does it help in lowering RBC's too as my RBC's are still bit on higher side 6.05 even after phlebotomy every 3 months?
My rest of the medical reports are normal so just trying to fix this with diet.
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Great video! You have all the specific videos I can't find anywhere else. Good quality and great explanation! Thank you ninja nerds. I found your videos right before my first hematology test. The coagulation cascade and anemia videos saved me! Keep up the great work.
The video was very beneficial ❤
I wanted to add something: Another cause to secondary polycythemia is increased thyroid hormone which leads to an increase in oxygen consumption and a decrease in oxygen supply to tissues wich leads to hypoxia that stimulates increased secretion of erythropoieten
I'm a fan of your channel since my undergrad days and now, I plan on binge watching your videos before I start medical school to give me a headstart on the basics cuz you give the most detailed yet concise explanations. Thank you for this. You really are a blessing 🥰
I was just diagnosed with PV and this is the most informative explanation I've found. Thanks!
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Thanks for the Lecture,
Additionally; Apart from an increase in the number of red blood cells ("absolute polycythemia")
It can also be due to a decrease in the volume of plasma ("relative polycythemia")
as someone who had a stroke 2yrs ago due to polycythemia (so diagnosed at time of stroke) this gives me new avenues of cause to explore.. Underwent bone marrow tests that proved -ve (so not primera).. have been told ever since it was "transient", despite 5 tablets a day not reducing BP.. will be back at my GP next week.... Thankyou very much
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You have me hooked on these videos. Brings med back to ANATOMY & PHSILOLGY in NURSING CLASSES. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE MADE IS TEALLY SO EASY TO LEARN. 9:23. 7-14'2023
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Been battling secondary polycythemia for 2 years now and this video really helped my understanding. I think my best solution is focusing on hydration now and your other "Approach to Polycythemis" helped me with that. Thank you!!
Yeah keep yourself hydrated , take one to two 80 mg aspirin daily and donate blood every 2 months and you will be fine.
He forgot to mention other causes an increase of red blood cells or secondary polycitemia Vera like the use of Anabolic steroids, smoking reduces the oxigen capacity and so is sleep Apnea.
I've been fighting this for almost 2 years now it's still unclear on how I got this my hematologist still will not give me any answers why is that ? I have been experiencing hip and joint pain ! It really irritates me that he won't give me any answers on my condition he just suggests I speak to my PCP ! Why can't he answery questions ? Just saying
@@chrisoliver9442 What are those actual symptoms of this? I'm researching on it because my rbc is slightly higher ( Only 0.4 than normal range) & I feel extreme cold sensitivity which seems intolerant to me with breathing problem like chest pain while taking deep breath.
@@chrisoliver9442 hey how are you now did you find out anything
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He forgot to mention other causes an increase of red blood cells or secondary polycitemia Vera like the use of Anabolic steroids, smoking reduces the oxigen capacity and so is sleep Apnea.
I've had 2 cancer doctors. One said we will blame it on your mild sleep apnea, the other doctor said, is not a cancer, I'm on 81mg aspirin. When I checked my patient portal, one said polycythemia vera and then one said secondary but I'm in stage 2 kidney disease and my family doctor didn't tell me. So now I'm going to another cancer doctor for 3rd opinion. I itch after a shower, I burn up, shortness of breath sometimes, I'll sweat at nights sometimes. Heat about takes me out in the summer. I can tell when I have way to much blood and I'm thinking about just donating blood to get those levels down.
Have you had a bone marrow biopsy or have you been tested for the mutations?
Why are they not doing regular CBCs for you?
Polycythemia Vera is considered a blood cancer or chronic leukemia.
Find someone who will test you for those things and monitor your blood counts as all of your symptoms are saying PV.
@@rlove3222thanks for your concern, around here, it's hard to find good doctors that will listen to you. I've been on top of oncologist after oncologist. My hubby has a great oncologist that recently came back to work after breaking his leg, he's going to look over every blood panel I've had going back 1 yr. And to the recent blood work I've had, but he will repeat every blood panel, he will probably do a bone marrow biopsy. If he does a run around with me, I'll just stop going to a doctor all together. I've been dealing with this problem for a long time, my CBC will be elevated sometimes and I rarely get infections. But it's showing my red blood cell count will go up and down. I'm all over the place and I'm becoming more frustrated cause of how I'm being tossed around. I want to have high hopes for this oncologist but when you have been done so shitty, you don't know what to expect. Hopefully I'll have answers soon.
Looking at the description of your symptoms you MAY have polycythemia ( elevated RBC) so for your peace of mind, pls, get CBC blood test -- the hemoglobin, hematocrit and RBC count must be elevated all the time then your doctor may evaluate you for further testing, for diagnosis.
He may order a jak2 mutation blood test, if this test turns out negative then you don't have polycythemia vera if it's positive the you have it.
If a jak2 mutation test is negative then you won't need a bone marrow test, BUT if you've had any blood clots with a negative jak2, then the doctor may order a bone marrow test.
I've had all testing including a bone marrow. I've got Polycythemia Vera. My jak2 is positive.
@@Jenny420ky oh I see, I'm sorry. Hope you're managing it well.
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As a PA-C now you will routinely see elevated counts in RBC from your men on TRT. Teach all providers the difference between PCV and erythrocytosis.
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i hope there will be a subtitle that was made by you guys, not just by the youtube cause some words are not right, and its make me confuse. thank you. i love ninja nerd
Actually in PV, the WHO criteria requires seeing "panmyelosis" in the bone marrow - an increase in all three lineages made by the myeloid stem cell. So someone with PV will have high red blood cells and/or high platelets and/or high hemoglobin and/or high granulocytes. High leukocytes in PV confers a higher risk of thrombosis per the WHO MIPPS-PV risk stratification algorithm. Btw, I really appreciate you talking about Secondary Polycythemia. I'm trying hard to find something to educate patients who have this - but patient guides or videos for secondary are sorely lacking.
I had Polycythemia/cancer and my g/dl's was 62 g/dl's instead of 16 and I had to get a pint of blood (Phlebotomy) drained out of me a lot. So I started taking oxalate foods until my hemoglobin was back down to normal at 16 g/dl's Strawberries are good oxalated, but so is rhubarb, but I thought rhubarb was too much Oxalate, so I stuck with strawberries. I am aware that too much oxalic can also be harmful.
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I have secondary polycythemia and one of the probable causes given was my recently diagnosed severe sleep apnea and smoking.
My Apnea Hypopnea Index (AHI) was 92 (average of 92 apneas/hr in sleep with a desat over 4% causing an arousal). This was most likely ongoing for years. After several phlebotomy sessions over 2 months (500 cc of blood removed each weekly session), the RBC count dropped into a safe level.
Hello @dannybau,
May I know if you still need to do the phlebotomy? What was your highest count of your RBC's ?
How are you doing nowadays ? Are you still on a CPAP ?
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polycythemia can result from excessive intake in which of the following?cobalt,copper,iron,phosphate or manganese
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Interesting lecture, but I would add as a contributor to secondary polycycthemia - testosterone, especially for those receiving testosterone replacement therapy.
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I'm doing homework and one of the questions asked me to identify any assessment findings that indicate Hypoxia. One of the findings was a ruddy purplish color. I chose this as part of my answer and was marked wrong. The feedback said ruddy purplish color can indicate COPD or Congestive heart failure and is caused by Polycythemia. So I guess in a way I was still wrong because polycethemia can result from the body responding to hypoxia? Okay I think I just answered my own question. Basically patient can have normal oxygen saturation levels and have an off color. I need to look at pictures for a side by side comparison.
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Great teacher SIr.. Excellent! If one has polcythemia (secondary) From trt , and does not get rid of some blood. How long will it take to get back to a normal hemoglobin and hematacrit if they get off of trt. Thanks
Polycythemia = increase in hematocrit and/or hemoglobin
Erythrocytosis = increase in number of erythrocytes but not necessarily hemoglobin for example
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Testosterone causes an increase in red blood cells and more viscous blood leading to donating to bring values to normal
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At one time i got really sick and had blood work done at the ER. O had high hematocrit and high bilirubin, still never found out why but i was drinking alcohol a whole lot
I know a person who told me they have cancer of the blood. They were producing too much red blood cells. They have this person taking meds. This will eventually lead to either kidney and or liver cancer. . After this video. I am frustrated at doctors for not evaluating and treating the issue
This was helpful really I’m not a med student but I was just told I have Polycythemia secondary, but what happens if someone has both polycythemia and Antiphospholipid antibody syndrome?
What percentage of population with the JAK2V617F mutation do not go on to develop a myeloproliferative neoplasm?
I have recently been diagnosed with Secondary Polycythemia. I have been told to consult a Hematologist. I am scared. I hope I don't have kidney cancer. What should I do?
How are you doing now and how are you treating it?
Sir can we say polycythemia also occur in anemia
Hallo Ninja does excessive use of diuretics and inadequate fluid intake cause secondary polycythemia?
What if JAK2 negative - ZERO underlying conditions - EPO normal...would this be a case for primary PV?
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how is your hemoglobin, hematocrit and RBC count ? Are they elevated ?
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So mine is caused by taking testosterone for hypogonadism. Is that primary or secondary?
Secondary due to medications. I had to have a bone marrow biopsy and tests for the mutations. I had a TIA almost 9 years ago and am treated with phlebotomies and aspirin.
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If there is an increased propensity to clot then why should there be increased bleeding/an increased prothrombin time?? I am confused. Can you please reply to explain?
Could you confirm polycythemeia only by peripheral blood smear ?
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Sir I honestly ask you to follow some kind of text book and add the total index in a video and I even want to pay you if u follow pathology (robbins), pharmacology (tripathi),micro(satyanarayana),and some kind of other books which u like,u want an index and I really love the way u do it.i want to buy your videos and host an app for you
How it result in bleeding if viscosity is high??plz tell
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Is it still polycythemia if it's the white cells and platelets that are high??