Mr. House Explains the Vault-Tec Meeting | Fallout TV Show
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- Опубліковано 16 кві 2024
- SPOILERS for the Fallout TV Show! I wanted to make a video with my perspective on why Mr. House was at the Vault-Tec meeting, and whether or not he actually worked with them.
Before the Second Battle of Hoover Dam, The Courier discovered an old holotape; a record of a meeting between Mr. House, Frederick Sinclair, and Vault-Tec. With the record seeming to suggest that Vault-Tec was responsible for the Great War, The Courier returned to New Vegas to ask an important question: Was Mr. House working with Vault-Tec?
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As far as I am concerned, this is canon
I hope this is actually true in the second season, if it is i would gladly take it as canon cause it’s so in line with his character to a T.
People are questioning why he isn’t going against them or speaking out against them. That would be completely out of character of him to start ranting during that meeting.
@@sebastianoscapost9226 Thank you for what you said in your second paragraph! I feel that point is being missed as some are jumping to the worst-case-scenario. House plays the long game, it would not serve his plans at all to outwardly oppose Vault-Tec during that meeting.
As far as I'm concerned, the show is non-canon.
@@Thagomizer as far as bethesda and the producers are concerned it's canon.
@@insertname3677 They haven't touched the west coast in any of their games, the show was made by people unrelated to the folk who wrote the story for the west coast and rubber stamped by Todd and his writing team, the geniuses behind Starfield. I think he's completely justified in feeling that way, much the same way some Halo fans consider anything past Halo 4 as rubbish/pretending it doesn't exist.
“Why did you humour the philosophy of Caesar even though you didn’t want to work with him.”
Love it.
If only the Bethesda writers had the balls to write something like this
@@Shiftinggers It's not that they aren't capable, they just seem to have grown lazy and complacent. Why bother writing engaging plots and quests when you can force player agency through "family ties", then use "radiant quests" and "crafting" to fill the rest of the game time.
@@EvgeneXI because to make a good RPG you need a good sandbox, but a story kills the sandbox.
To have both take a *_LOT_* of talent in storytelling and game design that Bethesda and Black Isle *_don't_* have and even then, it would still be considered only a 'good' RPG at most.
As a Fallout player who started in FO3, FNV feels far too empty.
@@TheTrueAdeptI mean you say that but there is way more unique things to do in nv than 4. like don’t get me wrong, I enjoy 4 but the majority of areas to explore and even the vaults are kind of bland and boring.
I would agree that 3 is the most fun to explore if you don’t factor quests, there is just something about capitol wasteland’s aesthetic that just hits
@@azurewraith2585 ... no, FNV feels empty because they tried to shoehorn FO1 and FO2 style adventuring in a 3d world.
It's bad enough that people who played both PREFER FO3 instead of NV.
Mr House had the look of “I’m not buying this bullshit” during the whole meeting in my opinion. I have a feeling this was likely his inner dialogue
While Vault-Tec was rambling about the countless social experiments they will perform on the Dwellers House be here thinking "Hmm I wonder if I should add more rockets to my defenses to keep my prized jewel safe? Probably should go over the calculations once more after this droll thing these fools call a meeting ends"
Do you guys really thinks that the smartest man in the world would be outplayed by a brain on a roomba?
We call them "Brain on a roomba's brains on roombas" 🎉 management.
I mean, he could be outplayed by a mailman with a golf club ... so maybe?
@@Dream0Asylum well, if the show Is Canon and he survived (we are not sure about It even if he's 99% alive) he didn't
Yes
House ending must be canon for NCR to be dead, and Hoover Dam’s power never going to the NCR forcing them to find alternatives.
Which means next season, Mr. House is still alive. And we get to hear him again!
That’s what I also thought, Mr. House seemed too be thinking in other things while the others were thinking on crazy experiments, he wanted to know Vault-Tec’s goal, is clear that he wanted to be the winner of this “Great Game”
The house always wins.
@@joebenzzDoes that mean “the house always wins” out come is the canon ending?
@@samdustinchris we don’t know for sure, as Todd just confirmed that Shady Sands was destroyed right after the Ending of FO:NV, and that the NCR still exist but in other settlements (Could be in Sac-Town, Arroyo, Vault City or the Hub)
So no matter the ending the result is the same, even if the Legion won, it’s clear that it was about to collapse as well, Ceasar would have still died and Lanius would had have to return east to try to keep the empire together
Even Ulysses says that without an enemy the legion would eat itself
@@samdustinchris well it's sure as hell not the seirra madre ending.
The bear and the bull
He is clearly not allied with them, just look at his platinum chip delivery. He knew about the bombs but it wasn't on time. We'll know in season 2 if he is still alive or not.
China probably beat Vault-Tec to it.
It also makes no sense since several vaults weren't finished in time.
@@nubreed13 actually there could be an explanation, Vault-Tec thought they had more time to do their stuff than they actually did, with this I mean that quite possibly the U.S.A and China peace negotiations could have been almost done, thus it would make the government start to cut ties with Vault-Tec, so seeing as they wouldn't be able to continue, they launched a nuke on American soil as to activate the nuclear defense sistem, better to have most of their experiments than none at all
@@nubreed13 yup
Honestly, it's probably a panic launch or a gambit pileup that caused The Great War. There were so many pieces moving in a kerosene-soaked, over-loaded powder keg of a chess board that just *_ONE_* spark would set everything off.
Mr house is going to be something that the show runnwrs are going to have to handle very carefully
Yes. Hope they don't just show his business savyness but Also his genius. Wouldn't put it pasta Bethesda if they decided that House's deductions came from some megacomputer he had with him 🤮
Knowing the show runners they will throw this out and say evil CEO did evil and is bad guy! Did you get it guys capitalism bad!
@@philomathist6899 okay but the series has ALWAYS had this undertone/subtext to it, while i hate the constant anti-capitalism hamfisting in todays multi-media, Fallout never made me roll my eyes about it
@@joaocarvalho6336What is this weird myth that Bethesda is writing the show ? They aid with some lore things but the people that write everything are the showrunners.
Why wouldn’t he have used a computer to predict the nukes falling ? Like do you think he did that with his brain ?
@@philomathist6899Mr House is literally presented as a pretty evil guy in New Vegas, what are you on ?
AI gets more impressive each year. Can barely tell its not the actual actors other than the extra mellow tones in their voice lines.
In New Vegas, Mr House was voiced by Rene Aubjonois (ODO from Star Trek DS9, Father Mulcahy in the original MASH movie). The actor passed in 2019, so they would have to find another actor to portray him.
@@agenttexx This is one of the cases (besides fan works like these where the source of the voice is clearly stated) that could be considered fair uses of AI voice cloning IMO.
Unfortunately, companies or individuals (like close family) who inherit the copyrights of the deceased voice actors will always have the last word, so if for some reason they ask to take down these kind of videos because they simply are not pleased with them there isn't anything we could do to stop them. Japanese companies like Toei Animation do it already with short clips of anime series they own because yes.
@@agenttexxRIP to a great actor !! Who will always be Odo !!
@@agenttexx Speaking of Rene the other voice actor voicing the Courier sounds alot like Avery Brooks.
@darukineo And rightly so. Fuck AI
Mr House is indeed a man not to be messed with as he's always 20 steps ahead, well prepared, a ingenious man and a ruthless businessman.
If he was 20 steps ahead, he would not have been so dependent on the Courier. That and his desire to control everything were his biggest weaknesses. A more amicable House who respected democracy could avoid the antagonism of a Courier who wanted No Gods, No Masters.
Until a mailman with a golf club shpws up
@@Italkmadshitlol He's called the Courier, both are different jobs also Mr House can always cut them a deal if needed be. Also thank you for commenting.
He wasn’t very well prepared concerning the security level on those terminals.
@@Cory_8 Compare a post apocalypse wastelander and a pre war person and then tell me how it's done.
Yo, Vault 21 was full of people educated in running games! He had a Vault built to educate the people he'd need to run the casino floor!
One of the most benign experiments of the Vaults… to train his wagies. Lol.
@@jamesbaxter5147 if we are going off the show and everyone at the table was allowed to make experiments then yea house would probably take the vault literally in his city and make it so it wasn't just filled with dead people or psychos.
Holy shit I never thought of it like that… it makes sense I honestly thought he was a dick that wanted them out after he took control, but exploring vault 21 makes you realize that there are a lot of games there and such.
Holy shit this actually makes so much sense
Makes a lot of sense if House was the commissioner for that experiment. He does love his gambling themes and metaphors. And he's always playing a bigger game.
as soon as I saw mr house at the meeting, i was like oh he is only here to spy on these fools.
Mr house is one genius who always ahead others, thats why Mr house always wins even if he gone, no faction would manage to govern vegas for long time unless if it wasnt mr house and this also explain in Fallout Dust lore (if that would happen)
Real
A great fanmade explanation.
Glad you think so!
This is what happens when fans are scrambling to clean up the lore that wasn't written in a position of good faith in the first place to where they're actually going with this.
@@zonilo1 that's entirely speculation on your part
@override367 No, it's not, but I blame Bethesda more than the writers. I think the writers wanted to make a good faith show but there is so much lore to sift through Bethesda would have to help. We know from Emil himself that Bethesda doesn't keep track of or even care about lore, so the notes they got were likely bad.
@@zonilo1 Nah you are what happen when people need better ways to spend their time and energy, 100%
I can't fathom having so much excess time and energy that I go into the youtube comments section to be pedantic completely unprompted.
The courier having Ron pearlmans voice makes sense I guess 😂
Don't know why people are going on about it, just because he attended a meeting, investors attend shareholder meetings even they have nothing to do with a company just as an example so cannon or not it would still work
This isnt as casual as humouring a relative you don't particularly like at the thanksgiving table. Stuff at this level implies months of groundwork and people getting in touch with other people. House had something in mind, even if it wasnt to just go along with Vaulttec's insane plans
@@mohebbi71 go on .....
They were appealing to him for investment, it never said he bought into it.
@@R3GARnator I still don't understand your point, i have watched the whole of season one i know what happened at the table and it is neither here nor there as they said little and the program ended so i reserve any more comments till i see season two.
The show indirectly confirms the Enclave and Vault-Tec were close, with the Enclave being where Vault-Tec's cold fusion tech leaked out from.
I think that's been more or less confirmed for a while now, they've pretty much always been very intertwined.
The enclave didn’t exist until after the Great War. You mean the government elite and it’s cronies.
Or ….. Vault- tech knew nothing of the enclave and was manipulated by the enclave. My head canon .
The enclave didn’t exist🙄 until after the war. You mean the government elite?
Its proven in fallout 2
Don't know if anyone else caught it. But the room the Vault tech meeting is held in at the end of season 1 is remarkably similar to the war room in the final scene of Dr. Strangelove.
Got the same vibes!
Also looks like one in The Man in the High Castle, probably set reuse. Cuts costs
They did that on purpose
@@karolean8342that was a killer series, just wished we got one more season to tie up loose ends .
Or that room from the fallout 4 intro
Someone get this to the show writers immediately
Why? This is exactly what they've shown in the series and Todd even confirmed it for particularly slow ones
for real though, I don't know what their plans are with Mr. House but this would have to be the best non cannon ruining option. Bruh even like update New Vegas with a DLC that has this as a thing, like that would show so much respect for lets be honest the best and most loyal patrons of the fallout community.
The man just create the plot of season 2 for House haha
Ngl, i like that explanation of why house filled Vault 21 with Concrete. In the original New Vegas it seemed like he did it because, he wasn’t morally Grey enough and they needed something bad for him to do.
This both gives a valid explanation AND! Gives house Moral Agency issues as he didn’t care about the negative side effects of doing this. Hopefully this is made cannon as it ties up some loose ends.
Yeah it definitely connects a lot of dots between both the game and the show, I hope they have something lined up similar to this
Wow that was profound. Especially Mr House. He sounded more accurate that the actual voice actor. Everything he said was something he would say in the game
Thank AI for that. 😂
I disagree. His tone sounds a bit flat. House always sounds a little annoyed in his tone of voice.
How does someone sound "more accurate" than the original voice actor? That doesnt make sense 😂
Sound more accurate than the actual VA? you’re tripping lol
Jesus Christ this is soo good. It even made house's presence made more sense here.
mr house was the only one there concerned about after getting out of the vaults rather than selling vaults, you won't sell vaults forever, even if mr house is evil, his motives have more hope for the future than anyone on that room.
His morals are more akin to the leadership of Singapore than anything... there's a video about how House lines up with Singapore's leadership out there.
People need to understand that Vault Tec was just a cog in the greater machine of war.
No different than our military industrial complex we have today. People talk a big game but that's just arrogance. I believe Vault Tec may have influenced the war to have gotten worse, but it's clear the real result of their labors could not account for the terrible reality.
Everybody thinks they can save or rule the world. As we've learned through many fallout games everyone had different ideas as to how to do that.
They made vaults to do experiments to see if humanity could live off world.
The three nearest vaults to Vegas either had reasonable experiments, 21 and 34, or was a control vault like 3.
He would have a sizable backup population if there were no surface dwellers to pull from.
And I imagine when he heard of Vault 3's fate at the hands of the Fiends it probably filled him with anguish and anger.
RIP Rene Auberjonois
What I believe happened is at that meeting he knew the world was going to end and Vault Tech gave him rough data he used to know when the world would be ended by Vault-tech. So he seemingly agreed to their plan and then bought Vault 21. Maybe a couple other in the region for appearances. And then he moved as fast as possible with his own contingency. He knew WWIII was happening whether or not he joined the plan. And so that's why he "couldn't save the world, and wouldn't if he could". The old world save for him was so poison, so evil, there was nothing left to save.
I think Ol' Hank is gonna receive a not so warm welcome at the Strip. Cause people like him forced House to do what he did to save humanity from Vault tech. He was content to do it in his natural life but because of vault tech he couldn't.
Not to mention that house wanted the NCR to be successful and prosperous as long as he was in control of New Vagas. They were his only real customers. Hank just set his plans back decades if he survived Fallout New Vagas.
This was basically the sense I got from that scene. He's actually willing to question them, call them out on their own plans. He didn’t seem interested in working with them if it didn’t ultimately benefit him.
He was also quite literally the only person in the conversation who didn't suggest a vault idea.
During the meeting, the way Mr house presented himself, gave off the impression he wasn’t as into it as everyone else, rather he was just there for info and the smartest way to get info is to criticize some enough until they start to argue back, which is what he did the whole time. And when they said they were going to drop the bombs themselves, he most likely had a small panic attack but ultimately proved himself correct, and most likely ordered the platinum chip right then and there, only he was a day late. And yes he was already working towards the “end of the world” he calculated, just in secret most likely.
I think he was on board with Vault-Tec enough to get possession of Vault 21 at that meeting, and designed its experiment himself. As far as the experiments go, Vault 21's was hardly the worst of them.
Once Vault 21 opened he didn't need it anymore. That's why he filled its lower levels with concrete.
This. This is perfect! A very plausible explanation and it fits the character of Mr. House, well done
Would love to see Joshua Graham and Andrew Ryan discuss their views and differences in belief.
This is REALLY well done! Great job!
Mr House is one of the most amazing characters ever, hope they don´t mess it.
Well thought out and AI voiced so damn well, thank you for this strange-ah
This is awesome! Feels more like cut content rather than ai dialogue
2:36 "The art of governance is about managing risk, not avoiding it." This pretty much defines Mr. House. He knew that inviting a lone courier completely blind to their true intention and side into his base of operations is a big risk to his plan, yet he still does it anyway because the reward is better if he managed to convince the courier to work for him and pull his plan off.
I'm really hoping to see a similar conversation as this between The Ghoul and Mr. House in season 2.
I'm not. I want Mr. House to be dead so that they don't step on roleplayers' toes by canonizing any of the endings to NV. Considering the state of the place, something clearly happened in the years since the game took place so having it fully abandoned/dead would sidestep that trap very nicely.
every detail and choice of word is beautifully done. I dont think I could do it as good, but I certainly recognize it as excellent
The thing is, during that meeting House directly references the experiment for vault 34 when they companies start letting lose on ideas for vault experiments. While sure, you can say vault tec liked it and used it even if House wasn't apart of the deal in the end, I think it was supposed to show he did have some level of involvement.
Awesome, thank you for this! :)
Rene Auberjonois was perfect for the voice of Mr House, and the character of Mr House as a pragmatic technologist in love with Vegas was superb writing (and not a psychopath like the Enclave)
The AI voice is amazing!
It even makes sense, at the end of the show theres a sign up on the strip in the credits that says cryo pods are being advertised in the TOPS casino.... and you can get to the lower levels of vault 21 from the tops in the cut content.
Masterfully done sir. This is now my head canon
In a recent Interview Todd Howard just confirmed this as canon.
Link?
@@joeyjojoshabbadoo8153 Link in description.
source?
We don't believe you provide a link.
@@vergil_vt Trust me Bro.
I think House finessed Vault-Tek. House makes the computers. He's a millions times smarter than anyone else in the room. He foresaw the war and made arrangements for it. I think he was there to find out what they were doing. He plays 6D chess while they are still playing checkers.
He gets Vault-Tec to confess to having a nuclear contingency to successful peace negotiations in a matter of minutes and is the only one not pitching dumb ideas for experiments. He probably did commission Vault 21, but obviously didn't trust it or intend to use it if at all possible.
Contingency on contingency. The House *ALWAYS* wins.
This story telling is spot on, I would have believed this was an in-game conversation if I hadn't played and exhausted the options myself.
This is so damn good and everything House says is something he would say.
Nothing he says is out of character. This is canon to me
I mean he was the only who dont proposed crazy experiment and was the most of time silent about all of this.. soo i guess after the bomb propose he just left in disgust and start preparing for the worst
I kinda had the same idea, since the fact he was only one who didn't suggest a vault idea, I do see him taking advantage but not throwing the match
Makes a LOT MORE SENSE. 😁
I hope they capture the feeling of isolation you get when ever you talk to him
Great job
So Vault-Tec chose to move up their timetable because they knew or guessed that House was going to undermine them and wanted to beat him to the punch.
Holy god damned shit that was well written. Subscribed.
The House Always Wins
My courior wouldn't be this well spoken 🤣
I do think this is what the writers of the show meant to imply to New Vegas fans. House is clearly prying information in that room, and he is conspicuously silent when the other execs start proposing Vault experiments.
This is beautiful
God this just makes me love mr house even more! No matter what hes in. Whether its canon or not, hes always a badass
A little bit felating House. Remember, he is still rather manipulative, ruthless, and a little bit of a hypocrite in being for saying he is for thr open market but trusts himself with power a bit more, he runs a casino.
But we notably didn't see him show interest in experiments, nor does it make sense that he would actively want the bombs to fall, after all he apparently stopped some. It is in character that he would pretend to go along with things to be able to stay informed, and probably not trusted the others at the table to have a good plan to rebuild.
Could be an interesting reveal if we find out the bombs falling right before his chip was not a coincidence, and someone figured out that he was going to undermine the rest by not following through on the clean slate surface plan. That his vision would have seen him bringing society back much quicker.
Ah, but am I felating House or is House felating himself?😄 You make great points! House is very flawed as with all the factions in New Vegas, I prefer an Independent Vegas but still find him to be a compelling character
I had the same thoughts as you during the scene from the show. All of the other representatives are chomping at the bit to share their ideas for vaults, while House asked the only important question. And an interesting thought at the end about House undermining the rest!
Except the experiments weren't "clean slate surface plan", just test beds for generational space colonisation... It's so disheartening seeing people rolling with whatever bullshit Bethesda comes up with.
300th like for forming words nicely for Mr House's behavior.
Dude this is really good, nice fuckin job man.
Great job.
Bethesda and the showrunners have to see this IMMEDIATELY...!
This is awesome
“The art of governance, Courier, is about managing risk; not avoiding it.”
That’s a good one.
Dude this is good. Nailed Mr. House.
Couldn't be a better (flashback) opening scene for S2 of the TV series, bravo
Remember when Vault Tec* said they would drop the bombs first. I bet they were tracking where mr house's platinum chip and went.
"Let's fuck with House and drop the bombs early. It will be a good laugh."
Maybe something went wrong, due to the Alaska liberation they kept pissing the chinese and had to release the bombs earlier than expected.
We need to spread this video fast!
Mr. House is clearly the kind of person who has a greater aptitude than any of the other people at the meeting. He understood that destroying the earth's surface population with nuclear Armageddon to create a clean slate for a potential utopia vision to bear fruit was insane and that was really mattered was to solve the problems of the world already at hand. He also understood that if there were not enough people to rebuild civilization, enough "potential customers," then any chance at profit would impossible. Furthermore, his shrewd decisions to have not fallen for the obvious con Vault Tec played on its subordinate companies and upon itself, to save Las Vegas either with effective anti-missile defenses or allowing a vault to be built to have some people be able to survive and repopulate the area as a failsafe, and to push forward attempts at space exploration for the discovery of planets rich viable for colonization and resource extraction makes him the most intelligent man left on Earth.
Its fascinating that the voice sounds so accurate, one of those things that fallout predicted; I should guess that House's tech would be so cutting edge.
We need to see this in Season 2.. somehow
Bro they need to hire you for Season 2 fr!
Both the actor in the show and the fallout monitor fully capture Houses unamused look towards the world. Hes a true shark.
This is amazing! Btw calling it now
Cooper is going to bond with mr house over hatred of the vaults and coopers old movies
Lucy is gonna get trained by houses right hand the courier
Max might accidentally start a war considering house and coopers view of the bos
Also, who is that little man coming our way?
House: Target practise.
Good dialogue writing!
this is cannon
House hated vaults at least, not sure if it was VT outright, he filled the Vegas strip vault with cement.
He did that less out of any sort of dislike for the vaults and more to seal off a potential entrance into his bunker. Benny actually tried to get in that way, and he failed to enter due to that foresight.
cant wait for mr house and the ghoul to interact
Holy smokes. Thank you so much. This is how I imagined it, if Fallout show is considered to be canon. You did an amazing job. I hope this is canon!!
Rene Auberjonois was such a great chsracter actor.
Does anyone have a timeframe for the pre-war scene? I initially didn't recognize Mr. House because I'd forgotten the name of his company and the actor looks very young compared to his NV avatar.
There's enough time between the meeting and the bombs dropping for Cooper Howard to get divorced and lose his prospects, but it can't have been too long going by the kid's age. Is it know when House turned himself into a computer?
I'd assume House put himself inside the life support system few days before the Great War, to make sure he could ensure Las Vegas' survival. As for the Vault-Tec meeting, read it at some other comment section that it could be before the acquisition of REPCONN by RobCo, which IIRC was around 2075 or 2076, because representatives from both companies attended the meeting.
Great catch to whoever made that connection with the REPCONN acquisition. I just read that it happened in 2075, so the meeting could have occurred that year or any year prior, provided it wasn’t an oversight
the ai Mr house voice is so spot on. like usually AI doesnt get the exact speech pattern and cadence to this level of accuracy. I could have sworn these lines were recorded by the original voice actor
It would be interesting to know what Mr. House think about the idea on integrating the Sierra Madre technologies, to New Vegas, both for defending purposes together with the Securitron, and the usefulness of the SM vendor machines.
Damn, I need this modded in. Find a holotape unlocks dialog or some simple quest.
Im very impressed 👌
That voice fits the courier pretty damn good, sounds like he’s been out in dry ass environment for a while
I might need to do another Fallout New Vegas playthrough before season 2
This is so good! How did you make this?
Link in the description :)
@@TheCouriersGambitI genuinely hope they write something like this into the show. The writing i’ve seen thus far with house hasn’t seemed like his “ character archetype”… Bethesda likes to listen to the audience now. I hope they see this
Oh and can you put lobo in couriers team too?
I love the AI Ron Perlman voiceover
I agree Mr. House was at the meeting to observe and confirm his suspicions regarding the bombings.
It's so nice to have AI to make House's voice afer the passing of René Auberjonois.
Hopefully if they decide to use it in game they still pay his family
this is so cool someone should show the creators it
We have to wait 2 more years for season 2, enough time for them to fix any glaring issues.
If this is how they explain it in season 2 I would love that
I think he did his own thing aside from his dealings with Vault-tec.
Makes me wonder more about the parts of vault 21 that were inaccessible
You know what's funny? I remember a sketch where they did Fallout settlement building like it was a property show. I tried to find it by putting "Fallout property show" in the search bar and all I got was this and Mr House appearing in the tv show! Apparently the search engine conflated house and property.
Bravo!!
This is literally what i and many others suspected, 400iq