That Sigma mini-wide is not exactly a macro. It's magnification is about as much as a kit lens can do, which is ~1:4. A real macro lens gives you 1:1, which means that you can fill the frame with objects as small as the sensor, If you have Canon 18-55, it can probably get even a little closer than this Sigma. A nice feature is that it's a wide angle, which is definitely useful in cinematography. Good diopters like Raycon are a good idea, although on the lower end of the budget, macro rings are more recommended because they don't lose any sharpness or light. It's comfortable if they have contacts, but you can also set the aperture on the body, then put the rings on. A very cheap macro lens is a Cosina 100mm 3.5 also rebranded like 10 times as Vivitar, phoenix, Soligor, Rokinon etc. It's a plastic-fantastic type with decent image quality. My personal favourite is Tamron 90mm SP line of lenses. At f/5.6 these lenses are sharp and very useful even in product photography or portraiture. Last tip I have is the probelm with reflections that macro lenses have. They react strongly to light in the frame. Covering all the lights is good for contrast especially since they're full frame and they can see a lot more than the sensor catches. Now here's a neat trick: take your 50mm and reverse it. Hold it up to your camera, with the front facing the camera. You should be able to get really close now, with more than 1:1 magnification. You can buy reverse rings for that, but it's not a good idea unless you think you can work with it like this.
Many thanks for the reply, really useful! I did have a 18-55, but I was looking for older manual aperture lenses to avoid issues with the aperture that modern lenses have, unless there's an older FD 18-55? I agree a wide angle with a macro-esque focus distance would be lovely. I will also check out the Cosina 100mm, that looks like it has potential. Thanks for all the tips too!
@@makeycreatey No I meant the EF kit lens. If you just search for 100mm 3.5 macro, you'll get all the brands that sell it, including Voigtlander, haha. You just need to know that they're all the same stuff and so neither is really worth too much. It's a cheap plasticky lens with decent optics. If you select "sold items" on Ebay's search, you'll see they go for around 30-50eur. It's not worth more, because around 100 eur, you can sometimes find Tamron SP, Sigma EX DG and Tokina macros, which are close to modern state of the art. Some of them have aperture rings, it's a matter of finding the right version. The Cosina has 1:2 magnification, which is very close, but it has a good diopter lens in the kit that brings it to 1:1. The other lenses are native 1:1. If you want the best, then you can also look for a famous "Bokina", but it can be pricey. If you're looking for FD glass, then they had a 50mm macro, which I think also wasn't too pricy. I'm not sure how it applies today, but back when there weren't mirrorless, there were adapters for FD to EF, that had a lens inside to extend the focal length of the lens.These optics were terrible, so FD glass wasn't really adaptable for EF, except for macro purposes, where you could take that lens out and use just a bare mount adapter and be happy. The same adapters with the lens removed are also sold as macro adapters. Anyway, you maybe knew all this, just thought I'll leave it here for anybody wondering.
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That Sigma mini-wide is not exactly a macro. It's magnification is about as much as a kit lens can do, which is ~1:4. A real macro lens gives you 1:1, which means that you can fill the frame with objects as small as the sensor, If you have Canon 18-55, it can probably get even a little closer than this Sigma. A nice feature is that it's a wide angle, which is definitely useful in cinematography.
Good diopters like Raycon are a good idea, although on the lower end of the budget, macro rings are more recommended because they don't lose any sharpness or light. It's comfortable if they have contacts, but you can also set the aperture on the body, then put the rings on.
A very cheap macro lens is a Cosina 100mm 3.5 also rebranded like 10 times as Vivitar, phoenix, Soligor, Rokinon etc. It's a plastic-fantastic type with decent image quality. My personal favourite is Tamron 90mm SP line of lenses. At f/5.6 these lenses are sharp and very useful even in product photography or portraiture.
Last tip I have is the probelm with reflections that macro lenses have. They react strongly to light in the frame. Covering all the lights is good for contrast especially since they're full frame and they can see a lot more than the sensor catches.
Now here's a neat trick: take your 50mm and reverse it. Hold it up to your camera, with the front facing the camera. You should be able to get really close now, with more than 1:1 magnification. You can buy reverse rings for that, but it's not a good idea unless you think you can work with it like this.
Many thanks for the reply, really useful! I did have a 18-55, but I was looking for older manual aperture lenses to avoid issues with the aperture that modern lenses have, unless there's an older FD 18-55?
I agree a wide angle with a macro-esque focus distance would be lovely. I will also check out the Cosina 100mm, that looks like it has potential. Thanks for all the tips too!
@@makeycreatey No I meant the EF kit lens.
If you just search for 100mm 3.5 macro, you'll get all the brands that sell it, including Voigtlander, haha. You just need to know that they're all the same stuff and so neither is really worth too much. It's a cheap plasticky lens with decent optics. If you select "sold items" on Ebay's search, you'll see they go for around 30-50eur. It's not worth more, because around 100 eur, you can sometimes find Tamron SP, Sigma EX DG and Tokina macros, which are close to modern state of the art. Some of them have aperture rings, it's a matter of finding the right version. The Cosina has 1:2 magnification, which is very close, but it has a good diopter lens in the kit that brings it to 1:1. The other lenses are native 1:1. If you want the best, then you can also look for a famous "Bokina", but it can be pricey.
If you're looking for FD glass, then they had a 50mm macro, which I think also wasn't too pricy. I'm not sure how it applies today, but back when there weren't mirrorless, there were adapters for FD to EF, that had a lens inside to extend the focal length of the lens.These optics were terrible, so FD glass wasn't really adaptable for EF, except for macro purposes, where you could take that lens out and use just a bare mount adapter and be happy. The same adapters with the lens removed are also sold as macro adapters. Anyway, you maybe knew all this, just thought I'll leave it here for anybody wondering.