This Log Pile Was MASSIVE!

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  • @granthartley394
    @granthartley394 3 роки тому +1

    Some great looking logs you have there. Great work

  • @gwshelor4129
    @gwshelor4129 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you so much for showing the set up and maintenance. This is helpful in the real world. Details matter after all a small detail can derail anything.

  • @bwpenoyer
    @bwpenoyer 4 роки тому +1

    Watching you mill these logs is a THING OF PURE BEAUTY!

  • @marcelw223
    @marcelw223 4 роки тому +7

    Just think about how many logs could you have done without a tractor! That tractor was the best purchase for you in my opinion, I bet you agree! With a tractor that is a lot of work. Thanks for another great video!

  • @Snuffaluffagis
    @Snuffaluffagis 4 роки тому +1

    I thoroughly enjoy watching you turn those logs into a useful and profitable resource

  • @gurvinderkau1e5w18
    @gurvinderkau1e5w18 4 роки тому

    30 logs in 2 days well done.so much fun doing your favourite job out in nature birds singing.keep going njoyed the video👍👍👍👍👍

  • @craigsudman4556
    @craigsudman4556 4 роки тому +1

    I am so glad you upgraded to a tractor with a grapple, those hydraulic muscles are hard to beat. Always enjoy when you saw a lot of lumber, Wes. Great video, thumbs up.

    • @meehd01
      @meehd01 4 роки тому +1

      I bought a new grapple but after using it for a while I decided using a set of pallet forks actually work better.

    • @craigsudman4556
      @craigsudman4556 4 роки тому

      @@meehd01 We like to watch Outdoors with the Morgans and he uses both. It is amazing what Wes accomplished with his Ford, but the new set up is so much easier.

  • @IronOakSawmill
    @IronOakSawmill 4 роки тому

    Nice to see the logs being used rather than burned. Yielding some nice lumber. Bartering is a good thing.
    Nice video work as well.

  • @singleshot2218
    @singleshot2218 4 роки тому +9

    A large undertaking..but I’ll enjoy watching your progress through your endeavor. Thanks for sharing your videos!

  • @jimmowers7675
    @jimmowers7675 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as always. Keep up the great work. God bless.

  • @Zeke-yv3nw
    @Zeke-yv3nw 4 роки тому

    Man you did awesome. So glad you got that tractor cant wait to see what comes!

  • @trickydicky78s3
    @trickydicky78s3 4 роки тому +1

    Your video came up in suggestions, watched 5 minutes and subbed.
    Impressed and relieved that somebody working with a saw mill uses a mask, the amount of folk i see working with saw mills or in general cutting timber with no mask astonishes me, they will be the very people in 10 to 20 years wondering why they cant breath or have lung diseases.
    The job looks big and you look to be doing a great job of it, all the best

  • @richarddunn341
    @richarddunn341 2 роки тому

    I could sit here and watch you saw logs are they being tied to a bed it's so enjoyable to watch somebody else do something that you would like to do

  • @patriots1needed
    @patriots1needed 4 роки тому +1

    Well done Wes.

  • @pboulware1737
    @pboulware1737 4 роки тому

    Love the LOG rake! Nice GA boy thinking, watch out for them ole Rattling snakes in them there log piles. Nice Job

  • @yeagerxp
    @yeagerxp 4 роки тому

    Excellent work👍👍👍 . Thanks for sharing

  • @TimLukeAnderson
    @TimLukeAnderson 4 роки тому +1

    Will we get to see the home remodel too ? Have you ever done a video on drying/curing your lumber ? Also have you ever treated your lumber yourself would you ever make a video on that ? Have you done a review on different sawmills best things to look for pros and cons etc thank you

  • @edmorin2780
    @edmorin2780 4 роки тому +2

    great shot at 14:13 into the video. Just a thought, since you mill a log for your 1 inch boards and then the 2 inch boards for your friend, would it save time to load "your log" onto the mill then just to grab the other log since you are on the tractor already? Then position the tractor so all you have to do is start the tractor, move a few feet forward and load your friends log onto the mill once your boards are done.

  • @MrFHLH
    @MrFHLH 4 роки тому +2

    I think you can say after sawing all those logs, that your sawmill is totally had it running in period since new lololol. What a wonderful arrangement, one for him and one for you, perfect.
    Ever calculated how many miles you walk in a day when running the saw?. Who cares lovely way to spend a few hours.

  • @tectalabyss
    @tectalabyss 4 роки тому

    Great job. And has always I Liked,shared. All my best.

  • @usapatriot4513
    @usapatriot4513 4 роки тому

    No criticism here you have a good thing going there and I liked your ideal of using that short log with your tractor too smooth down that sawdust pile. Thanks for sharing your videos with us and God Bless!

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Always appreciate you watching!

  • @iamruseriousnow516
    @iamruseriousnow516 4 роки тому +1

    Just wondering if you could attatch some sort of pipe, pvc or stove pipe wlbow to the saw dust so it would blow a foot or two out. At least to move it away from your walking space. Give it some thought. Love your videos.

  • @gerryspang5917
    @gerryspang5917 4 роки тому

    Ike the way you look after your equipment, was wondering how graphite powder would work, it’s not sticky so the sawdust wouldn’t stick to it. Like the way you barter for your lumber. Keeps out the middle man. Like the grease fitting as well, in the old days we put a thin rag over the grease nipple then would use the regular fitting it would seem to tighten up. I always seem to find these things now that I don’t need them any more. Stay safe my friend and keep the videos coming.

  • @erikleorga
    @erikleorga 4 роки тому

    I envy you the piles of logs you get to mill.

  • @BackwoodsGourmetChannel
    @BackwoodsGourmetChannel 4 роки тому +1

    Great video as always. Dang.. fixin' to hit 200K subs.

  • @tommyadams1897
    @tommyadams1897 4 роки тому +15

    Great work. Have you ever thought about getting a shipping container to keep your wood in for drying?

    • @zell9058
      @zell9058 4 роки тому +2

      They are a little pricey especially when you have access to plentiful low cost lumber... that being said the quick install and weather proof quality of a container is hard to beat. Just add dehumidifiers and fans and it’s set.

    • @tkishkapesilurian4281
      @tkishkapesilurian4281 4 роки тому +1

      I am using a rented storage building to secure/dry the nicer oak, hickory and other well-figured lumber I cut. It is secure, dry and very hot to dry the wood faster.

  • @aday1637
    @aday1637 4 роки тому +1

    May I suggest you construct a chute to lengthen the sawdust output so as to dump beyond where you walk?

  • @kurtmcminn8380
    @kurtmcminn8380 4 роки тому +1

    love the work your doing just wish I could get some of the wood from you.

  • @Melicoy
    @Melicoy 4 роки тому

    Nice Work. thanks for sharing !

  • @sydneymcconnaughhay5947
    @sydneymcconnaughhay5947 4 роки тому +1

    Wow by yourself, just think if you had some help.You are awesome, Blessings to you and your beautiful family.

  • @iain1969
    @iain1969 4 роки тому

    I love your videos! Thank you.

  • @andycobbcobbbroslogging7125
    @andycobbcobbbroslogging7125 4 роки тому

    Hydraulics have changed the world as much as the internet or any other invention. I am a contract logger and production oriented in pay by the ton. Since I helped my pop in the 70s to starting my own biz in the 80’s to present day, I have seen cutting down go from chainsaws to track sawhead feller butchers that can cut up to 35 loads a day. And limboing go from chain saws and axes to track excavators with delimbers that cut the logs to measured lengths in a few seconds. We cut 25 loads a day average, about 800 tons. When daddy and his helper and I were doing it we usually did about 30 tons working hard from Can’t to Can’t. Truelly changing the industry. AC

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      Amazing how useful a hydraulic cylinder is.

  • @kiawandajr1097
    @kiawandajr1097 4 роки тому

    nice haul! Your lucky to have such a great resource. here in pnw were know for our trees but i am scratching to get trees to mill.

  • @jamesd4013
    @jamesd4013 4 роки тому

    Nice work

  • @bwillan
    @bwillan 4 роки тому +3

    Would it be worth it to build a log deck the height of your sawmill such that you could load 8 or 10 logs on it at a time? Would likely be more efficient in the log handling department. Sounds like you will have a long term saw milling arrangement with your friend there. Of course having an extra person to help would go a long way too.

  • @jayschafer1760
    @jayschafer1760 4 роки тому +2

    For the slabs with the bark on them, try building some U-shaped cradles on 4x4s or 6x6s so that they are off the ground. Build a few of a those ~18" long, with gaps for a few pieces of twine, then line up the cradles, drop the slabs directly from the mill into the cradles, tie it all up with twine, and cut into ~2' lengths with a chain saw. Wouldn't take a ton of time, and would leave you with bundles of scrap wood to dry and use for campfires (either your own campfires, or to sell to others).
    A lot of the bundles of wood I see for sale at gas stations and grocery stores in areas with campgrounds and lake houses look like they are offcut slabs from trees that were cut into boards.

    • @kenjett2434
      @kenjett2434 4 роки тому

      Not trying to be a troll but Georgia pine makes crappy firewood. It's a softwood that is full of pitch makes good kindling to start a fire but burns quickly and doesn't create a charcoal bed just turns to ash.

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 4 роки тому

      @@kenjett2434 Ah, thanks for the information. I knew that pine isn't the best firewood, but didn't realize that it was quite that bad. Still, even just for personal use for outdoor fires, it would be almost free and not much work, just keep feeding wood into the fire pit and stay upwind.

    • @kenjett2434
      @kenjett2434 4 роки тому

      @@jayschafer1760 for fire and quick heat yeah you could easily do that but wouldn't advise cooking over it. Not sure those resins would be harmful or not but certainly wouldn't taste to good.

  • @ML-lg4ky
    @ML-lg4ky 4 роки тому

    That’s a nice unit man.

  • @erniemays41
    @erniemays41 4 роки тому

    You have a sweet deal worked out there, one for one.Great.

  • @arth.4196
    @arth.4196 4 роки тому

    Do you have the used blades sharpened or discard them.

  • @wallacebrown5207
    @wallacebrown5207 4 роки тому +1

    The background music is great.

  • @rossinnz
    @rossinnz 4 роки тому

    It's peaceful. Cheers Man.

  • @henryzoch1505
    @henryzoch1505 4 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @specwar64
    @specwar64 4 роки тому +1

    Gee Wes,you should mill yourself some 6x6s and build yourself a nice pole barn for a nice equipment storage/repair building. Theres certainly enough lumber there,i'd guess.

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +1

      Trying to save up lumber for our house remodel right now. Although a pole barn would be nice.

  • @deborahbergey3659
    @deborahbergey3659 4 роки тому +1

    I love watching your videos. I'm very curious to know how much one of your blades for your sawmill cost. And keep making these videos for our enjoyment.

    • @stephaniewilson3955
      @stephaniewilson3955 2 роки тому

      In an earlier video they were $40 but since supply problems you can probably double that.

  • @stedder8436
    @stedder8436 4 роки тому

    Nice work man

  • @lazarmavrenovic2283
    @lazarmavrenovic2283 Рік тому

    Is it possible to put two logs on the mill at the same time? Have you tried it? It would speed things up if possible

  • @dewaynenix2025
    @dewaynenix2025 4 роки тому

    Been watching your channel and wondering if you will do an update on the solar kiln? Would love to know how productive it is in drying the wood. Thanks.

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      The kiln was a learning experience. It does a great job drying wood, but it's not easy to load and unload. So, I just air dry now.

  • @madampolo
    @madampolo 4 роки тому +2

    I think you should invest in a wood chipper and turn those bark boards into wood chips to sell. Also, bag up that sawdust and sell it also. I think you'll find buyers for both chips and sawdust.

    • @Noonespecial237
      @Noonespecial237 4 роки тому

      I agree waste nothing, all sales can be pure profit..

  • @MrHarleythedevil
    @MrHarleythedevil 4 роки тому +1

    If that log pile was here in Australia, the only thing I would be thinking would be, "How many bloody snakes are hiding in there".

  • @slamsshenanigans2296
    @slamsshenanigans2296 4 роки тому

    Smart use of the log with the sawdust, but a box blade would give you ballast and doesn't add too much to trailering length, and if you weld a ball on the back of the box blade you can hook up easy and move your mill around with your tractor, lot easier than the truck.

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +1

      I have a box blade with ballast and a hitch on it. I was trying to save trailer weight for the trip.

  • @terryclouse6390
    @terryclouse6390 4 роки тому

    good see your cat again just for second great video the comment robert made makes a since it ain,t me or robert doing the work do it the way you want great video keep up the good work

  • @wileycoyotesr8623
    @wileycoyotesr8623 4 роки тому

    Nice intro. Shows us what you do each time the saw in used.

  • @newandoldtech5634
    @newandoldtech5634 4 роки тому +1

    20:00 One tip from experience: put two rows of logs parallell to each other to stack the rest of the logs off the ground. the dirt make the blade dull and if the logs are stored for a long period of time, they will rot or be damaged by other means

  • @annettmccullough4193
    @annettmccullough4193 4 роки тому

    Do you ever use your saw dust for anything else?

  • @jimwilliamson7598
    @jimwilliamson7598 4 роки тому

    If you don’t put a few separator
    strips between rows of cut lumber don’t the boards twist and split?

  • @davidkirkman2223
    @davidkirkman2223 4 роки тому

    On my lm29 the sawdust discharge hole is on the other side from control side. This eliminates walking through it as your sawing

  • @gregbrown1083
    @gregbrown1083 4 роки тому

    You might consider slabbing 2 sides of some smaller logs for dunnage to stack your drying stack, makes it easier to keep flat. Good luck.

  • @newandoldtech5634
    @newandoldtech5634 4 роки тому

    Why not use a big tarp to collect the saw dust? Works well with fire wood macines

  • @David-fv7zg
    @David-fv7zg 4 роки тому +1

    I had been under the understanding that you weren't supposed to oil the working rail?

    • @kiawandajr1097
      @kiawandajr1097 4 роки тому

      not sure about actually oiling the rail itself but there are felt pads the mill head rides on that need to be cleaned and oiled regularly. i am sure a little extra on the rail wont hurt anything

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      The rollers on the mill have felt pads (wipes) in front of them that are soaked with ATF. Oiling the rail helps keep ATF on the pads and lessens wear and tear. Doesn't hurt a thing.

  • @tammymann6292
    @tammymann6292 4 роки тому

    All I can say is, "Wow!"

  • @dennistaylor4171
    @dennistaylor4171 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Wes, great video. I really enjoy them. My question has nothing to do cutting logs. I love the background music on this particular video. What artist is it? Do you do all of your editing? Very impressive!

    • @FLPhotoCatcher
      @FLPhotoCatcher 4 роки тому

      Martin Carlberg - Don't Be Late

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      Hey Dennis, it's Don't Be Late by Jayden Talley. Yes, I do the filming and editing. Thanks for watching!

  • @rossinnz
    @rossinnz 4 роки тому

    Make an ad-hoc blade with your boards, wire it on. Great Vids

  • @henryjones6173
    @henryjones6173 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video. Quick question, where did you get the hat? I would like to get one myself. Keep up the great work.

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      I got it through a friend years ago. It's Colombia brand. Unfortunately this particular model has been discontinued. They have a similar one still, it's not exactly the same though. It's a wonderful hat.

  • @johnaneufeld5442
    @johnaneufeld5442 4 роки тому +1

    when i see you struggling getting the bark slabs off the rig you might want to invest in a roller at the throw off end

  • @canalolenhadorvaldir
    @canalolenhadorvaldir 4 роки тому +3

    Dude you work really hard...👏👏👏
    I'm fron BRAZIL😀
    Work with eucalypitus

  • @doctormaddix2143
    @doctormaddix2143 4 роки тому

    Will you build a shed for wood drying in the future?

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +1

      Not sure, it would sure be handy though.

  • @f150bc
    @f150bc 4 роки тому

    Suggest you can use saw dust to make fire 🔥 pellets and sell it to people who have stoves.It is popular here on LINY .

  • @WilliamWBG
    @WilliamWBG 4 роки тому

    Could you not saw two similar size logs at the same time?

  • @stevennihipali3607
    @stevennihipali3607 4 роки тому

    what do you do with that scrap pile? I'm looking to get into woodworking with that kinda stuff and my son wants to jump in there and take it all, lol... where do we getthat kinda scrap wood to work with?

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +1

      It all goes to waste. You might try looking at Wood Mizer's website. They have a list of local pro sawyers. They generate plenty of off cuts. Maybe even search Craigs list for local sawyers.

    • @stevennihipali3607
      @stevennihipali3607 4 роки тому

      @@falllineridge much appreciated

  • @audiemccall7611
    @audiemccall7611 4 роки тому

    Those little mills aren’t really big or fast enough to take on a big job like that people say they save a lot of wood with the thinner kerf but usually the sawyers waste the gains in a thick slab cut. We can saw about 16 logs that size in less than an hour with 3 people on my Edmiston circle mill.

  • @allanpeters4403
    @allanpeters4403 4 роки тому +1

    Is there a log sawing machine that cuts both ways - would save tons of time and effort

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      Yes, those do exist.

    • @___PK__
      @___PK__ 4 роки тому

      Here's one on steroids 😂: ua-cam.com/video/421rzcE-dVc/v-deo.html

  • @mk-jf1ux
    @mk-jf1ux 4 роки тому

    is there a saw that ejects dust to non operator side? (under 30k)

  • @cptechno
    @cptechno 4 роки тому +1

    How much does a blade cost?

  • @woodbutcher6719
    @woodbutcher6719 4 роки тому

    What do you do with the cut offs

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      I don't have a use for them. They end up going to waste.

  • @TreeManMS
    @TreeManMS 4 роки тому

    Keep going.

  • @heartofd1x1e91
    @heartofd1x1e91 4 роки тому

    What is in that red spray bottle?? @fall line ridge

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +1

      ATF for rail lubrication.

    • @heartofd1x1e91
      @heartofd1x1e91 4 роки тому

      Thank you so much thinking of getting into the wood mizer business

  • @brianterrill9587
    @brianterrill9587 4 роки тому

    There are guys going into former eastern block USSR Countries going after 1,000yr old bog wood that just looks incredible after cutting.

  • @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849
    @thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849 4 роки тому

    Outstanding job as always! Even though you call it a hobby, you look like a true professional doing that work!
    I don't recall from early videos, but did you ever consider other brands besides Wood-Mizer for your Mill?

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks, John! Always learning though. I don't think I ever considered anything except Wood Mizer. Not because there aren't a lot of good brands out there...but ever since I first saw one of these orange machines with the wobbly head I just had to have one.

  • @jimwilloughby
    @jimwilloughby 4 роки тому

    Wes, You really got to workin', using a short log to backdrag that sawdust out the way.

    • @tomherfel2916
      @tomherfel2916 4 роки тому

      Yep, that's a great idea. I wouldn't have thought of it. But you might improve it if you used a longer log, about 3 times as long, so as to keep your tractor further away from your mill.

    • @tkishkapesilurian4281
      @tkishkapesilurian4281 4 роки тому

      I use my tractor and its box blade to keep my litter gathered and mixed with horse manure for composting.

  • @kthwkr
    @kthwkr 4 роки тому

    What was the song at the end?

  • @michaelc.3812
    @michaelc.3812 4 роки тому

    7:50.... double cut?

  • @jimp.4531
    @jimp.4531 4 роки тому

    fun in the forest.

  • @lylestatzer7112
    @lylestatzer7112 4 роки тому +2

    Your on your way to operating like the big dogs now. With that log in your grapple it reminded me of "Letsdig18". He moves a lot of mud like that with his excavator.

    • @lialos
      @lialos 4 роки тому

      Lyle Statzer - Letsdig18 is a damn magician with the big machines!

  • @brucewelty7684
    @brucewelty7684 4 роки тому

    Here is another totally unrequested suggestion: If you are doing one and one, how about loading 2 logs on the grapple? Save one run time??

  • @carlgustafson213
    @carlgustafson213 4 роки тому +1

    Y'all need a snow blower for that sawdust.

    • @kthwkr
      @kthwkr 4 роки тому

      A leaf blower would do. Snow blowers are illegal in middle Georgia :)

  • @thepoolmaster6821
    @thepoolmaster6821 4 роки тому +1

    Time for a Solar Kiln!!!

  • @aday1637
    @aday1637 4 роки тому +1

    That 'blue stain' is spaulding...and is highly desirable to some lumber smiths.

  • @arlielamas-wj5xo
    @arlielamas-wj5xo 4 роки тому

    Theres no need to strip that stack. The bark is already slipped on those logs, they're plenty dry. Some are probably too dry.

  • @SgtGiggs
    @SgtGiggs 4 роки тому +1

    1:20 Show off! 🤣

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      Ha! I was proud when I learned that trick.

  • @karlriley1314
    @karlriley1314 4 роки тому

    Looks like FUN...............For someone else that is, not me. hehe

  • @kenjett2434
    @kenjett2434 4 роки тому

    All that 1inch why wouldn't you also stock up some 2 inch framing lumber as well? Even a better idea to save time just cut into beams for resaw later to make what ever you may need at a given time? This would allow you to process logs much faster to get through the log pile. If your not needing this lumber for immediate use or specific use it would make better sense to just cut cants for resaw when needed.

    • @falllineridge
      @falllineridge  4 роки тому

      That’s a good idea, Ken. I might try that next time.

  • @danriley9155
    @danriley9155 4 роки тому

    That's what I was afraid of, please get some hard toe either steel or composite. They may save a toe.

  • @kthwkr
    @kthwkr 4 роки тому

    After kicking that saw dust I bet your shoes are full of sawdust and you ain't got socks on.
    Very nice ending. I love that song.

  • @chadhenwwodschainsawswoodw2108
    @chadhenwwodschainsawswoodw2108 4 роки тому

    you might need a grader blade on your tractor

  • @robvanza
    @robvanza 4 роки тому +7

    Why don't you take 3 logs at a time and reduce the time spent going to collect a single log?

    • @johncraig3941
      @johncraig3941 4 роки тому +1

      Robert was wondering the same thing.

    • @Snuffaluffagis
      @Snuffaluffagis 4 роки тому

      @@thangquocnguyenmdp asking questions is so horrible and traumatizing you are correct about someone having a case of the rudes. i hope you can get over that

    • @W3B3Play1ng
      @W3B3Play1ng 4 роки тому

      @@thangquocnguyenmdp who hurt you to the point of being butt hurt about a suggestion?

    • @imahuman1239
      @imahuman1239 4 роки тому

      John Craig p

    • @Dave-ty2qp
      @Dave-ty2qp 4 роки тому

      It's probably safer to cut one secured log, rather than 3 unsecured logs. It probably could be done, but the likely hood of a mishap would outweigh the increased production. Just guessing.

  • @David-fv7zg
    @David-fv7zg 4 роки тому +2

    For pine I cut 2:1 for service, for hardwoods ill do 1:1. The pine just isn't enough of a value for me to cut considering gas, wear and tear, time, etc. Not saying it is for you just my perspective.

    • @kenjett2434
      @kenjett2434 4 роки тому +2

      David if he had to cut and skid the logs yeah I would agree with that. But these are all precut and stacked only work is loading on the mill and sawing 50/50 isn't a bad deal very little handling.

  • @Bassmaster1256
    @Bassmaster1256 4 роки тому

    Looks like you need a new gas can! lol

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 4 роки тому

    Every DIY channel i see love lock n lube.

  • @netdog713
    @netdog713 4 роки тому

    A landscaping rake would make quick work of spreading out that sawdust- just sayin' :)

  • @Bamaman14k
    @Bamaman14k 4 роки тому

    Man that's a lot of wood for free, well relatively speaking anyway.

    • @meehd01
      @meehd01 4 роки тому +1

      Actually for the labor, wear and tear, fuel, and blades he's not coming out very well.