I just fill the cylinder with triple 7 press a ball and she hits around 900 - 1100 fps. Had my 1858 for 4 years, I cycle about 200 shots a month out of her and do a full tear down with a small flat head and clean inside and out each time. Shes my daily carry. Extremely Accurate and Reliable. Best $200 I ever spent. Mines the 5.5 in sheriffs model. As a convicted felon I can legally own and carry this loaded for personal defense. That's America and God Bless Texas Yall.
I like the sheriffs model too. I want to take a look at some of the smaller ones in .36 and .31 cal. I also have a canon I need to do a review on soon.
In Texas you can legally own this , but it can only be used for home self defense or practice on your property . CANNOT be taken out of the property.. Hopefully, either you aren't in texas or are mistaken about the law..
@@captaincrunch72 I've got a copy of both state and federal law in Texas and these are not regulated in any form unless you modify it to carry modern ammo. In its original state you can carry it open or concealed. Ide love to see what law you are reading. Because I keep my copies in my glove box in my truck. My local sheriff shoots at the same range as me and we talk alot and he has shot my 1858 because he was like Well ain't that cool! So you are hearing from someone that has not done the research Brother.
"I pop about 200 balls a month out of her and do a full year down with a small flat head"..... YO DAWG, I am drunk as a skunk and high as a Georgia pine right now and I literally rolled off my chair onto the floor and laughed myself hoarse when I read that part. I still haven't stopped howling. Yo my guy, you gotta rephrase that. 😂
I have the blued steel version. I'd love to add a stainless version. It was a stainless Remington just like it that sparked my interest in black powder. I load 15 to 20 grains for best accuracy and Goex powder.
I have a pietta 1851 colt navy clone(.36 caliber) great gun I got it as a Christmas present in 2016, it’s been a fun gun to shoot, the farthest I ever shot with the revolver was at a steel target at 50 yards. And amazingly I was able to hit the target 3 times. I’m thinking about get a conversion cylinder so I can shoot .38 long colt black powder cartridges 🇺🇸
I went straight off of looks when I decided to get it, I like the top strap design. Looks like I'm going to have to get a couple different models to compare it to.
Aren't captions great? I said cylinder instead of chamber a few times in my Walker video. I wasn't going back out to reshoot the video. Captions fix everything.
6:00 Love it! That shot had a smoke ring flying off to the right of the gun. Edit: And, dang! That's a beautiful gun in stainless steel! I have one in brass, but looks like I'm fixin' to get me self a stainless steel, too! LOL
I believe the manual recommends between 12-15 grains. You definitely don't want to over charge them and there's really no need to either. Use the smallest load you can to both, hit your target accurately and put a smile on your face. If you need something with a lot of power, check out a modern firearm but you'll have lots of fun with the old black powder ones. Thanks for watching!
Stainless yeah boys.. I like stainless. I had a colt government mark 4 -45 .. stainless beautiful piece and dum dum me traded it for something different and always regretted it after..
There not really "patches" that I used, at least not like the kind you'd use on a BP rifle. These are lubricated wads. They don't wrap around the ball like a patch does, but they do help with keeping the barrel a little cleaner. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview oh yea seen some guys body after a car wreck. I'll stick to walking. Every instance of flask detonation was a long gun. I can't find one with pistols.
Nice to hear you're doing something great for the planet! You may be absolutely correct. For legal reasons, I'll stick to saying not to load from the flask. There will be that one slim chance someone looses a finger and they'll say I told them it was safe to do from the flask. They might be doing something completely different, but still want to blame someone else. Thanks again for watching!
I would say no. The biggest problem with stainless, is that it will not deform when being pushed into the barrel and engage the rifling or seal the gasses in the chamber while the powder burns. Another down side of stainless to stainless interaction is that it will gall, which will cause the two surfaces to destroy themselves. This is pretty common with stainless to stainless threaded parts without proper lubrication. I would highly recommend NOT using stainless round balls in any black powder firearm. I have not seen anything commercially available that can be used in place of lead in these types of guns and pure lead is getting harder and harder to find in America. Good luck and thanks for watching!
A trained eye can easily pick out the difference between stainless and nickel, but stainless is easier to maintain, and there's nothing to flake off. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I just finished watching your Black powder Marshrll video and wanted to say I used to give the 36cal sheriff model with the 5.5" Bbl with the all Brass frame but sold for what ever reason and regretted ever since so I looking to get another one same cal oh by the way what part of Ohio do you live in
Needs a fork and spoon built into the loading lever assembly too. That way you kill, cook, AND eat the deer with one instrument. 😂 Black powder is awesome. A full .44 Mag case of it out of a Ruger single action is an attention grabber at every outdoor range, and an instant fog machine at an indoor one.
Some basement ranges I've been at allowed it. But they look at you a bit scared when you pull out a BP revolver as if you told everybody you are positive for the kung flu. They'll tell you to do no more than 1 shot every 20 seconds. 😂😂😂
@@BlueSkyCountry The first time I heard the term "Kung Flu" used, I busted out laughing! I recon that 20 seconds gives the fans time to clear out the smoke. I may have to do a little Black Powder therapy this coming weekend.
I believe at the time, all I had were #11 caps. I was looking through the Pietta manual and the only reference I could find about cap size was the note saying; "Insert the proper cap on the nipple", nothing saying what that cap size is though. I now have a small collection of #10, #10.75 and #11s as well as musket caps and 209 primers. Hopefully I'll be fully prepared for whatever black powder fun comes my way. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview #11s will work but you just have to pinch them a bit but if #10s are available then those will fit the nipples without falling off great video sir i am a big 1858 44cal fan. Please puruse thru my channel.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview i don't care too greatly for accuracy, I just want to plink and see all the smoke and hear the boom. I like shooting blackpowder more than shooting center fire
I just fill the cylinder with triple 7 press a ball and she hits around 900 - 1100 fps. Had my 1858 for 4 years, I cycle about 200 shots a month out of her and do a full tear down with a small flat head and clean inside and out each time. Shes my daily carry.
Extremely Accurate and Reliable.
Best $200 I ever spent.
Mines the 5.5 in sheriffs model.
As a convicted felon I can legally own and carry this loaded for personal defense. That's America and God Bless Texas Yall.
I like the sheriffs model too. I want to take a look at some of the smaller ones in .36 and .31 cal. I also have a canon I need to do a review on soon.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview
I have the 1863 remi pocket
It shoots kinda wild.
And caps seem to jam up quite a bit.
In Texas you can legally own this , but it can only be used for home self defense or practice on your property . CANNOT be taken out of the property.. Hopefully, either you aren't in texas or are mistaken about the law..
@@captaincrunch72
I've got a copy of both state and federal law in Texas and these are not regulated in any form unless you modify it to carry modern ammo. In its original state you can carry it open or concealed. Ide love to see what law you are reading. Because I keep my copies in my glove box in my truck. My local sheriff shoots at the same range as me and we talk alot and he has shot my 1858 because he was like Well ain't that cool! So you are hearing from someone that has not done the research Brother.
"I pop about 200 balls a month out of her and do a full year down with a small flat head"..... YO DAWG, I am drunk as a skunk and high as a Georgia pine right now and I literally rolled off my chair onto the floor and laughed myself hoarse when I read that part. I still haven't stopped howling. Yo my guy, you gotta rephrase that. 😂
You got a smoke ring from one of those shots! Nice job. Beauty of a revolver.
I'd like to get the revolving carbine too, just wish they made one in stainless!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview That would be a great review!
I really want to get the stainless version of the '58 now after watching this video! Great review!
It sure is a good lookin' piece
Thanks for the look at your pistol. "Primers" typically refers to a component of a metallic cartridge. Your pistol uses "percussion caps."
Thank you for watching and I hope you subscribed too! I have a habit of mixing terms sometimes, except for magazine and clip!
I enjoy learning from the professional. Safety is very important.
There's always something to learn and I've done a lot of it since this video. Thanks for watching!
Really great overview of this fine weapon.
Thank you very much, greatly appreciated!
I have the blued steel version. I'd love to add a stainless version. It was a stainless Remington just like it that sparked my interest in black powder. I load 15 to 20 grains for best accuracy and Goex powder.
This stainless one Was my first and it got me hooked! I have more
BP revolver videos coming!
I have a pietta 1851 colt navy clone(.36 caliber) great gun I got it as a Christmas present in 2016, it’s been a fun gun to shoot, the farthest I ever shot with the revolver was at a steel target at 50 yards. And amazingly I was able to hit the target 3 times. I’m thinking about get a conversion cylinder so I can shoot .38 long colt black powder cartridges
🇺🇸
I'd like to get a couple of the smaller caliber revolvers too. Thanks for watching!
58 Remington is my favorite BP Revolver. Shot hundreds of rounds through mine. Yes I had to replace a few hand springs but it was a blast to shoot
I went straight off of looks when I decided to get it, I like the top strap design. Looks like I'm going to have to get a couple different models to compare it to.
Went back to watch this one again. These are fun guns to shoot.
Even though the cleanup process is more involved, I enjoy them as much as, if not more than cartridge guns. Sort of anyway!
That is a beautiful piece of steel awesome video!
It was my first BP revolver. I'm pretty fond of it myself! Thanks for watching!
Aren't captions great? I said cylinder instead of chamber a few times in my Walker video. I wasn't going back out to reshoot the video. Captions fix everything.
Oh, I have done that many times!
I have one with a Howell conversion cylinder- great fun!
I'll bet it is! Thanks for watching.
6:00 Love it! That shot had a smoke ring flying off to the right of the gun.
Edit: And, dang! That's a beautiful gun in stainless steel! I have one in brass, but looks like I'm fixin' to get me self a stainless steel, too! LOL
They sure are pretty! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing, pretty gun
Yes it is! Thanks for watching!
Nice looking range you have,
Love the gun , love the video. Nice work !
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Awesome and very detailed review of this marvelous gun I sure wouldn't want to be on the other end at any yards that's sounds like a loud monster!
Loud or not, they're lots of fun! Thanks for watching!
Thank you, I just bought one of these, only blued.
I haven't shot it yet. Happy Shooting !
Enjoy and be safe! Thanks for watching too!
Great video! The revolver looks like a winner to me You are getting pretty good groups. Good shooting!
Thank you! Thanks for watching too!
@Small Caliber Arms Review >>> At 06:00 in this video --> You got a smoke ring off to the upper right....
Hello
I have the brass framed '58 Remington. What would u think would be a good powder charge ?
Its also a pieta.
Thanks
I believe the manual recommends between 12-15 grains. You definitely don't want to over charge them and there's really no need to either. Use the smallest load you can to both, hit your target accurately and put a smile on your face. If you need something with a lot of power, check out a modern firearm but you'll have lots of fun with the old black powder ones. Thanks for watching!
What diameter is the bore trying to find ammo and not sure also how many grains of powder do you shoot
I believe I used 24 grains of Pyrodex and I believe the round balls were.454" diameter. That video was filmed quite a while ago. Thanks for watching!
Stainless yeah boys.. I like stainless. I had a colt government mark 4 -45 .. stainless beautiful piece and dum dum me traded it for something different and always regretted it after..
Stainless can be somewhat forgiving. Thanks for watching!
enjoyed the video .. I do a bit of range time with my BP revolvers on my channel too *LIKED* and *SUBSCRIBED*
Good video. Thumbs up ~John
Thank you very much!
Got got a pistole like this one
They're pretty cool. Thanks for watching!
Just hold one minute I'm not necessarily an expert but ball and cap revolver does not use patches I think
There not really "patches" that I used, at least not like the kind you'd use on a BP rifle. These are lubricated wads. They don't wrap around the ball like a patch does, but they do help with keeping the barrel a little cleaner. Thanks for watching!
in the 1858 were the cartridges of paper + bullet and greased
I believe they were at least the conical bullets should have been because they hade a lube groove in them. Thanks for watching!
35grains pyrodex gets around 900fps. You can load from the flask.
I saw some gnarly pictures of a guys hand that had a flask go off while reloading, I'll stick with the powder measure. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview oh yea seen some guys body after a car wreck. I'll stick to walking. Every instance of flask detonation was a long gun. I can't find one with pistols.
Nice to hear you're doing something great for the planet! You may be absolutely correct. For legal reasons, I'll stick to saying not to load from the flask. There will be that one slim chance someone looses a finger and they'll say I told them it was safe to do from the flask. They might be doing something completely different, but still want to blame someone else. Thanks again for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview cool
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview love the sas
Can you use Stanley steel balls in the Stanley steel barrel ? Purpose of lead free , California !!!
I would say no. The biggest problem with stainless, is that it will not deform when being pushed into the barrel and engage the rifling or seal the gasses in the chamber while the powder burns. Another down side of stainless to stainless interaction is that it will gall, which will cause the two surfaces to destroy themselves. This is pretty common with stainless to stainless threaded parts without proper lubrication. I would highly recommend NOT using stainless round balls in any black powder firearm.
I have not seen anything commercially available that can be used in place of lead in these types of guns and pure lead is getting harder and harder to find in America.
Good luck and thanks for watching!
I just bought this I have the 1851, but i wanted the nickel plated
A trained eye can easily pick out the difference between stainless and nickel, but stainless is easier to maintain, and there's nothing to flake off. Thanks for watching!
How the felt recoil on that and great video a good video you could do is on the NAA C&B Capanion in 22
I've been looking for the NAA version, but haven't seen one in a store yet. Maybe someday. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I just finished watching your Black powder Marshrll video and wanted to say I used to give the 36cal sheriff model with the 5.5" Bbl with the all Brass frame but sold for what ever reason and regretted ever since so I looking to get another one same cal oh by the way what part of Ohio do you live in
This or Uberti´s version?
I think I like Uberti's version better. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks!
Needs a fork and spoon built into the loading lever assembly too. That way you kill, cook, AND eat the deer with one instrument. 😂 Black powder is awesome. A full .44 Mag case of it out of a Ruger single action is an attention grabber at every outdoor range, and an instant fog machine at an indoor one.
I don't think I've ever been to an indoor range that allowed BP firearms, they claim it messes up the air filtration system
Some basement ranges I've been at allowed it. But they look at you a bit scared when you pull out a BP revolver as if you told everybody you are positive for the kung flu. They'll tell you to do no more than 1 shot every 20 seconds. 😂😂😂
@@BlueSkyCountry The first time I heard the term "Kung Flu" used, I busted out laughing! I recon that 20 seconds gives the fans time to clear out the smoke. I may have to do a little Black Powder therapy this coming weekend.
5:58 see how the gun smoke a ring out.
That is always fun to see! Thanks for watching!
too bad you are not shooting black powder instead of that corrosive stuff.
That's all they had in the store at the time, I'll get some eventually.
1858 new Army recommends number 10 caps
I believe at the time, all I had were #11 caps. I was looking through the Pietta manual and the only reference I could find about cap size was the note saying; "Insert the proper cap on the nipple", nothing saying what that cap size is though. I now have a small collection of #10, #10.75 and #11s as well as musket caps and 209 primers. Hopefully I'll be fully prepared for whatever black powder fun comes my way. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview #11s will work but you just have to pinch them a bit but if #10s are available then those will fit the nipples without falling off great video sir i am a big 1858 44cal fan. Please puruse thru my channel.
I shoot 30 grains
I hear that the best load can vary from gun to gun, I hope it works well for your revolver. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview i don't care too greatly for accuracy, I just want to plink and see all the smoke and hear the boom. I like shooting blackpowder more than shooting center fire
@@robbenmitchell7949 yeah, it is fun that's for sure! I may do a black powder rifle video soon.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview that would be fun to watch
Hate Pyrodex .
Black powder is so much better. Thanks for watching!