The Secret of Snakes and Ladders

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  • Опубліковано 27 січ 2020
  • Snakes and Ladders -- also called Chutes and Ladders in the US -- might look like a simple board game for kids, but it actually goes back thousands of years with deep, meaningful origins. And along the path of creating a morality-based game to help kids navigate the world around them, humans stumbled onto some pretty interesting math.
    From reaching nirvana to exploring Markov chains, Snakes and Ladders weaves a surprisingly complex tale of virtue, vice, and dumb luck. So, I decided to electrify it. Literally.
    Imaginative engineering UA-camr Allen Pan of Sufficiently Advanced helped me customize an old Snakes and Ladders board by hooking up batteries to the board itself, with conductive position markers and steel line in the game pieces that could make a circuit all the way to the end. And at that final 100th space, a surprise mystery box that I’ve never seen before is activated…
    And thanks to Allen Pan of Sufficiently Advanced for not burning my house down: / @allenpan
    Chutes And Ladders 1943 Photo Courtesy of Toy Tales
    toytales.ca/chutes-ladders-mi...
    ** SOURCES **
    “Chutes and Ladders for the Impatient,” The College Mathematics Journal, January 2011, by Leslie A. Cheteyan, Stewart Hengeveld and Michael A. Jones: www.jstor.org/stable/10.4169/...
    “How Long Is a Game of Snakes and Ladders?” The Mathematical Gazette, March 1993, by S. C. Althoen, L. King and K. Schilling: www.jstor.org/stable/3619261?...
    “Markov Chains and Snakes and Ladders,” The Mathematical Gazette, December 1967, by D. E. Daykin, J. E. Jeacocke and D. G. Neal: www.jstor.org/stable/3612943?...
    “Analysis of Chutes and Ladders,” February 2015: possiblywrong.wordpress.com/2...
    “Analysis of Chutes and Ladders,” November 2011, by DataGenetics: datagenetics.com/blog/november...
    “The Timelessness of Snakes and Ladders”: / the-timelessness-of-sn...
    “Chutes and Ladders Began as a Game to Teach Morality 2,000 Years Ago”: curiosity.com/topics/chutes-a...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 3 тис.

  • @chrislasekan1685
    @chrislasekan1685 4 роки тому +9563

    You mean Eels and Escalators?

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +474

      You mean chutes and ladders?

    • @Icalasari
      @Icalasari 4 роки тому +383

      @Boco Corwin Cobras and Climbers

    • @UnusualPete
      @UnusualPete 4 роки тому +341

      You mean "Ups and Downs"?
      That's just life... =)

    • @cthulhufhtagn2483
      @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +130

      Cobras and Companionways.
      There's actually astonishingly few puns you can make from this.

    • @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
      @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome 4 роки тому +191

      You mean Stairs and Salamanders?

  • @TEWU
    @TEWU 4 роки тому +3590

    You see this absolutely normal potato right? WRONG

    • @AhmedMostafa-hl9yl
      @AhmedMostafa-hl9yl 4 роки тому +78

      It has outlived the dinasours
      It has existed during the big bang and was the core of earth
      It has witnessed the beginning

    • @kalebcoggins189
      @kalebcoggins189 4 роки тому +72

      You're not seeing the potato; You are seeing a digital representation of a 2-dimensional potato. In addition, its color has been ever so slightly altered so that it can be stored and transported over the internet. But where is the internet?

    • @TheRandomizerYT
      @TheRandomizerYT 4 роки тому +9

      @@kalebcoggins189
      Best comment replies lol 😂

    • @hagridthetable
      @hagridthetable 4 роки тому +12

      @@kalebcoggins189 the internet is an illusion of a place that you visit almost everyday. But we never questioned how we got here anyways maybe because phones and computers are considered the gateway to the internet realm. That means we can travel to the dream realm by using computers. Also does the afterlife exist?

    • @depressedblanket
      @depressedblanket 4 роки тому +2

      It's a German-potato!!!

  • @Adomas_B
    @Adomas_B 4 роки тому +2546

    Stepping on the 99 space snake is like teacher asking to show your homework 1 minute before the class ends

    • @Pudcup
      @Pudcup 3 роки тому +42

      deep bro

    • @ozeruysal
      @ozeruysal 3 роки тому +48

      yeah, so close to safety

    • @carlosnathanieljannjusonal4826
      @carlosnathanieljannjusonal4826 3 роки тому +12

      And then you get a 1

    • @carterbrown8447
      @carterbrown8447 3 роки тому +21

      Rolling a 2 after that is when the teacher is already mad for some reason and you have not done your homework

    • @sash2590
      @sash2590 3 роки тому +13

      Ah teacher i cant hold my pee anymore i was waiting for class to end. Imma go to toilet now *runs to toilet*

  • @mafelfanai
    @mafelfanai 4 роки тому +2035

    When we were young, when you don't roll the exact number required at the end i.e. 2 for this instance, you go back the number of remainder of the numbers you rolled after you reached the finish. Though I think that's just a rule we made up.

    • @scottcarr9320
      @scottcarr9320 4 роки тому +290

      I would say that’s pretty common practice, either that or don’t move until you roll a good amount.

    • @whyamihere3954
      @whyamihere3954 4 роки тому +120

      Yeah, that rule would make the game twice as longer as luck isnt really always on my side when I play it

    • @MizhiBirb
      @MizhiBirb 3 роки тому +31

      me and my friends do that when we play snakes and ladders

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 3 роки тому +28

      F Mafela it’s in the official rule

    • @zacharyconcessio3970
      @zacharyconcessio3970 3 роки тому +5

      We did thattoo

  • @maeentell3259
    @maeentell3259 4 роки тому +10174

    Who's not surprised that Kevin found the meaning of life from a kid's game.

    • @Kibaoftheleaves
      @Kibaoftheleaves 4 роки тому +119

      It was created with the meaning of life already instilled within in the year 200 BCE

    • @balckfire344
      @balckfire344 4 роки тому +35

      dude that the yu-gi-oh story.

    • @knallkul
      @knallkul 4 роки тому +22

      @@Kibaoftheleaves don't you mean BC

    • @kinyutaka
      @kinyutaka 4 роки тому +49

      @@knallkul BCE is the more correct term, since even biblical scholars agree that Jesus wasn't born in Year 1

    • @knallkul
      @knallkul 4 роки тому +10

      @@kinyutaka what did the e stand for?

  • @jarredj5699
    @jarredj5699 4 роки тому +3632

    The fact that there’s no strategy to this game can also say that life is random

    • @nusswahl3032
      @nusswahl3032 4 роки тому +72

      It's just like grades

    • @twig4661
      @twig4661 4 роки тому +76

      thats what i thought too... its just a simple dice rolling game if i remember right. no strategy involved

    • @adrianpulta1498
      @adrianpulta1498 3 роки тому +47

      @@twig4661 Well atleast speedrunners have one.
      But it takes a lot of *Guts.*
      Not to mention -painful-

    • @abl9643
      @abl9643 3 роки тому +24

      And also that you can win by using fraud, by using unbalanced dices

    • @brendan2754
      @brendan2754 3 роки тому +1

      "Whims of fate"

  • @_skzstay1264
    @_skzstay1264 4 роки тому +450

    Ok fun fact... or just something i realized when Kevin mentioned "Learning" and "Greed"
    Some Snakes and Ladders boards actually show these as scenes or pictures which depicts what he said,
    At a ladder, the square at the bottom of a ladder shows a child studying and at the top is the child graduating "Learning". Another example is a girl watering a plant and at the top shows flowers in full bloom "Perseverance or Patience"
    At Snakes, at the head is a boy holding a stick is chasing a dog and at the tail is the dog and the owner of the dog is scolding the boy "Karma or Cruelty."
    Those types of Board designs are actually common in our country (Philippines) (i dont know if it is in yours) and i never realized its meaning until now. I just thought of it as fun designs for children to look at.

    • @mityakiselev
      @mityakiselev 3 роки тому +5

      I had something of the sort in Russia

    • @xexpaguette
      @xexpaguette 3 роки тому +1

      We don't have that in Sudan

    • @frostbite5092
      @frostbite5092 3 роки тому +9

      mas maraming hagdan yung version naten sa pinas

    • @60ritikanand69
      @60ritikanand69 3 роки тому +11

      This game was originally designed to show the path to moksha, the ultimate enlightenment. Snakes are the bad karma that would drag you down and ladders are good karma that would give you a boost. While dice represented the randomness of life. It's original name was, I think, mokshapattkam and it was primarily played by monks.

    • @aeshikagupta8163
      @aeshikagupta8163 3 роки тому +7

      I think I had a board with that kind of layout but I don't remember for sure

  • @demonic-000
    @demonic-000 4 роки тому +247

    There is always a snake that says:
    I am going to destroy your entire career.

    • @icantthinkofaname8139
      @icantthinkofaname8139 3 роки тому +11

      I think thats snake is named “Overconfidence” the one at 99

    • @cyberpixel15
      @cyberpixel15 3 роки тому +3

      Thus decreed the 99 space snake

    • @HypnosisBear
      @HypnosisBear 2 роки тому +7

      @@icantthinkofaname8139 Haha well said dude.
      The 99 snake is definitely the representation of overconfidence!

  • @haze154
    @haze154 4 роки тому +6486

    This guy could take an orange and make it sound like the most amazing thing ever.

    • @JamesBond-cb6ky
      @JamesBond-cb6ky 4 роки тому +46

      Yup

    • @NonDelusional74611
      @NonDelusional74611 4 роки тому +205

      But oranges are the most amazing thing ever

    • @The-official-grindel
      @The-official-grindel 4 роки тому +70

      How many other people have had a video literally sponsored by THE US FREAKING NAVY

    • @The-official-grindel
      @The-official-grindel 4 роки тому +35

      The color was named after the fruit. The fruit was named after the tree. It is a chain of names

    • @TheNejD
      @TheNejD 4 роки тому +13

      oranges and most citrus fruits that you know of arent completely natural they are a hybridization of 2 other citrus fruits that are largely unknown by the general population and one of the main three oranges lemons and lime is a hybrid of 2 hybrids but i cant remember which one.

  • @Henchman_Holding_Wrench
    @Henchman_Holding_Wrench 4 роки тому +2817

    Perfect metaphor for life.
    You've somehow managed to avoid all those snakes.
    Cool. What do I get?
    Popup snakes.

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat 4 роки тому +59

      Also only cheaters have a chances of choosing their own fate, normies will be at mercy of fate.

    • @FurikuriYugi
      @FurikuriYugi 4 роки тому +24

      @@MouseGoat My First Sargent always said "If ya ain't cheatin ya ain't tryin"

    • @misterbrick4276
      @misterbrick4276 4 роки тому +11

      Aye!
      Oh!
      Aye!
      Oh!

    • @shadow-faye
      @shadow-faye 4 роки тому +1

      @@MouseGoat so then cheat

    • @roberte.o.speedwagon6928
      @roberte.o.speedwagon6928 4 роки тому

      It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. What is your plan?

  • @alexandraanghel5339
    @alexandraanghel5339 4 роки тому +623

    Vsause1: and this whole thing is just random........or is it?
    Vsause2:and this whole thing is just random.....NO! Its not!

    • @Abhishek-sr2pu
      @Abhishek-sr2pu 3 роки тому +12

      The original name of snakes and ladders is moskapad, invented in india but was change in Europe because you don't wanna play a pagan game in Europe.

    • @Stocxk_
      @Stocxk_ 3 роки тому +6

      V s a u s e

    • @mexiguayan
      @mexiguayan 3 роки тому +8

      ....right? WRONG!!!!

    • @vedantkarale4077
      @vedantkarale4077 2 роки тому +1

      Or is it?

    • @BunnyInASheepCostume
      @BunnyInASheepCostume 2 місяці тому

      fr

  • @Mystic5523
    @Mystic5523 4 роки тому +263

    Huh, every version of this game I've played had a big ladder that crosses the big snake, I wonder why this one doesn't?

  • @kastiak06
    @kastiak06 4 роки тому +1000

    "stairway" to heaven, "highway" to hell

    • @MrSuperbeast92
      @MrSuperbeast92 4 роки тому +71

      *Escalator to Heaven and Eel to Hell.
      🧐👌

    • @tuc-kaankaraayan
      @tuc-kaankaraayan 4 роки тому +7

      I read that as Starway :0

    • @Rexuno100
      @Rexuno100 4 роки тому +13

      Roundabout to nirvana

    • @PunkZombie1300
      @PunkZombie1300 4 роки тому +6

      @@Rexuno100
      ________________
      《to be continued/|/| (in the next
      -------------- life)
      I tried

    • @sansgolem168
      @sansgolem168 4 роки тому +2

      Nice AC/DC reference

  • @Hoschi.
    @Hoschi. 4 роки тому +1116

    Meaning of life
    Me: Love
    Kevin: Snakes and Ladders
    Michael: 42

  • @moose7560
    @moose7560 4 роки тому +487

    Kevin: Snakes and ladders is a kids game right?
    Me: right?
    Kevin: WRONG
    Me: HoW?!
    Kevin: well we can actually use physiology and psychology and chemistry and geology and math an-
    Me: is that right?
    Kevin: WRONG

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 4 роки тому +15

      Me: What is it?
      Kevin: WRONG!!!

    • @RGC_animation
      @RGC_animation 3 роки тому +3

      @@ShadowMinecraft16 UNO reverse

    • @Fossilpump9080
      @Fossilpump9080 2 роки тому +2

      ​@Adam Czerniewski people do use it​

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 4 роки тому +34

    I always played “Chutes and Ladders” as a kid and it was maddening lol... man, that whole “one bad choice can undo a dozen good ones” is not only true, but a massive understatement lol

  • @DorthLous
    @DorthLous 4 роки тому +929

    The rules usually state "You *may* take the ladder", meaning that there is *some* strategy, albeit minimal.

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 4 роки тому +183

      I don't know if there's some way to calculate the probability of winning the game based on what square your piece is currently on. But I'm willing to bet that your odds of winning always go up the closer you are to square 100, no matter how many snakes are ahead of you.

    • @88Nieznany88
      @88Nieznany88 4 роки тому +160

      @@imveryangryitsnotbutter there is way to calculate probablity, because as stated in video its 101-state markov chain.
      About the second part: in general case it's not true. You can imagine version of game where you are at square 49 and ladder will push you to 57, but all squares in between are ladders than puah you to 98 or something. Then it's clearly better not to take this ladder and instead roll nect turn and take better one.
      But game is constructed in such way that it's probably almost always best to take the ladder.

    • @NickRoman
      @NickRoman 4 роки тому +45

      Re: @@imveryangryitsnotbutter , in other words, if you know that it's always better to take the ladder, then it is not a strategic option. It's just what you must do assuming you're actually playing the game.

    • @oaomcg
      @oaomcg 4 роки тому +36

      All the rules i've seen say you MUST move up the ladders. This game is 100% RNG. there are no decisions. I refuse to play it with my kids... winning-moves.com/images/chutes%20and%20ladders%20rules.pdf

    • @truthboom
      @truthboom 4 роки тому +4

      @@oaomcg yikes chute and ladders

  • @samarthkhandelwal5263
    @samarthkhandelwal5263 4 роки тому +1069

    Me: Wondering the meaning of life
    CGP Grey: Death is the meaning of life
    Michael: 42 is the meaning of life
    Kevin: WRONG. It's Snakes and Ladders

    • @thinhnonyt
      @thinhnonyt 4 роки тому +29

      Its a reference to the book series “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy”

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman 4 роки тому +22

      The Hokey Pokey: Turning yourself around is what it's all about.

    • @cloudedfalcons1183
      @cloudedfalcons1183 4 роки тому +3

      Haha.

    • @Scigatt
      @Scigatt 4 роки тому +10

      Where does CGP Grey say that?

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec 4 роки тому +7

      Google: the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death is the meaning of life

  • @cspicer77
    @cspicer77 3 роки тому +55

    I've never seen anybody play without the exact roll(spin) to get to 100. That is literally the most important rule.

    • @6272355463637
      @6272355463637 2 роки тому +15

      The tedious end to a tedious game. It's so very fitting.

    • @AlexShaw
      @AlexShaw 6 місяців тому

      I'm willing to let it go in the interest of making a UA-cam video but in real life this would just be cheating

  • @GrrumpyPants
    @GrrumpyPants 2 роки тому +13

    Needing to roll an exact number to win is incredibly important to how the final stage of the game plays out. With a snake on 99, the winning roll always comes with at least a 50% probably of hitting a snake, as you have a 1 in 6 chance of getting a winning roll, and a 1 in 6 chance of getting one less than that.

  • @corywilke5143
    @corywilke5143 4 роки тому +715

    Him: snakes are weird and creepy
    The snake overlords: we need a orbital strike on him

    • @user-sc8mj5bb6k
      @user-sc8mj5bb6k 4 роки тому +14

      *Initiate "Death from Above" protocol.*
      *Orbital Rod release in:*
      *3*
      *2*
      *1*

    • @Pannenkaka
      @Pannenkaka 4 роки тому +5

      *zap*

    • @jayth3kid641
      @jayth3kid641 4 роки тому +10

      Orbital Snake*

    • @wc0424
      @wc0424 4 роки тому +7

      I too like Snake Jazz

    • @lyrimetacurl0
      @lyrimetacurl0 4 роки тому +3

      Really? I thought they would me more like, "Ssssssssssssssssssss"

  • @Timocracy
    @Timocracy 4 роки тому +615

    Kevin: Here's a simple, mundane thing.
    Also Kevin: Let me cut this sh*t with some math and see what happens.
    I love this channel.

    • @U014B
      @U014B 4 роки тому +1

      >implying Kevin would make a swear-cuss

    • @jacksonhuang4266
      @jacksonhuang4266 4 роки тому +1

      Inappropriate comment, sorry

  • @Joseph_Drew_III
    @Joseph_Drew_III 3 роки тому +24

    “This game has a random length, but it has perfect length”

  • @shermanthebear963
    @shermanthebear963 3 роки тому +32

    imagine if we were living in a universe were no one ever legitamitly completes a snakes and ladders game

    • @sanjeevsinghrajput5593
      @sanjeevsinghrajput5593 3 роки тому

      I believe it is said that Mahatmas like Gautam Buddha and many other sages from Sanatan Dharma have actually achieved Moksha (or ended this game)

  • @JesusLove3573
    @JesusLove3573 4 роки тому +351

    Kevin could literally make anything sound interesting. He would make for a great school teacher. One that takes a boring class and makes it exciting

    • @ianplace9977
      @ianplace9977 4 роки тому +2

      I will read ypur profile picture

    • @PunkZombie1300
      @PunkZombie1300 4 роки тому +3

      Joke's on you I got an ad that prevented you from Rick Rolling me

  • @cumulus1869
    @cumulus1869 4 роки тому +851

    He should've said, "Snakes for watching." at the end.

  • @highwindjump88
    @highwindjump88 4 роки тому +68

    Kevin saying "don't roll a 1" just triggered every D&D player's PTSD.

  • @WolfRose11
    @WolfRose11 3 роки тому +17

    Watching this again, the large ratio of falls to ladder rises causing a longer game is probably why Chutes and Ladders was designed with much longer ladders. To make it a game that more primary kids will have the patience to play.

  • @noel9817
    @noel9817 4 роки тому +372

    When people scream
    Normies: aaaaaaaah!
    Kevin: HI HO

  • @nibbletrinnal2289
    @nibbletrinnal2289 4 роки тому +515

    If this game is a metaphor for our lives, this means that reaching the end is death.
    Yet, it is possible for this game to last forever.
    This game proves immortality is possible, since its possible for the game to never end.

    • @TheSpencermacdougall
      @TheSpencermacdougall 3 роки тому +48

      Theoretically, but highly unlikely. To never reach the end (square 100) you would somehow either need to get into a infinite loop of snakes, or (using the official rules) be on S99 and never roll a 1, which is impossible if done endlessly.

    • @nibbletrinnal2289
      @nibbletrinnal2289 3 роки тому +44

      @@TheSpencermacdougall That is incorrect, actually. Each number has a 1/6 chance of being rolled on a dice, meaning, on average, it would only take six rolls to get the one you need to finish, but this is no guarantee. Although it would appear more and more likely that you roll a 1 as you continue to roll, the fact that you can roll five other numbers that *arent* 1 will always prevent it from becoming a guarantee. It is completely possible to roll a dice an infinite amount of times and *never* land on the number 1 even once

    • @Owen_loves_Butters
      @Owen_loves_Butters 3 роки тому +14

      @@nibbletrinnal2289 Yeah, with probability of 0. One of those things of math is that probability of 0 ≠ impossible

    • @drenz1523
      @drenz1523 3 роки тому +1

      @@Owen_loves_Butters Sometimes but other times they don't.

    • @drenz1523
      @drenz1523 3 роки тому +17

      Mmmm yes generosity speeds up death

  • @LyrelGaming
    @LyrelGaming 3 роки тому +19

    Google: Its just a game.
    Bing: Its the meaning of life

  • @gejyspa
    @gejyspa 2 роки тому +8

    About 6 years back, I used both Markov chains and Monte Carlo simulations to calculate how long games of Hi-Ho Cherry-O should take. It came out to a mean of ~15.8 turns per game, with a mode of 5, median at 12, and a ~1/1429 chance of a game lasting more than 100 turns!

  • @jgjg5182
    @jgjg5182 4 роки тому +436

    I remember when my dad stepped on the 63 space snake by getting addicted yo heroin

  • @dylanesalame
    @dylanesalame 4 роки тому +469

    real gamers know it as “eels and escalators”

  • @itsglby
    @itsglby 3 роки тому +18

    “Its like falling down a well” Kevin 2020 with a sarcastic voice lol 6:52

  • @chrismanuel9768
    @chrismanuel9768 3 роки тому +13

    If I had to redesign the game I'd make it 8 ladders, 12 snakes, and the snakes average 4x worse than ladders are good. That means more chances to go backwards than forwards and backwards being more extreme, so the game would take longer and be more punishing.
    Really get kids ready for the rest of their lives

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 2 роки тому

      Why stop there then? , make it so the first time they slide a snake they automatically lose and are sent ti a Gulag.

  • @Caramelldanson
    @Caramelldanson 4 роки тому +242

    Interesting that a game meant to teach about morality has no player agency.

    • @be7th
      @be7th 4 роки тому +7

      Hey, at least we all get to watch a different, randomly generated movie.

    • @khushalvadarevu7473
      @khushalvadarevu7473 4 роки тому +11

      it tries to teach us to shoot your shot no matter how many snakes come in the way, till you reach your goal which is moksha (salvation) in hinduism

    • @xchronox0
      @xchronox0 4 роки тому +8

      @@khushalvadarevu7473 Interestingly enough though, the lesson I learn here is that falling down wasn't a result of me doing anything wrong. It just had a 1/6 chance of happening and that I should blame luck, and learn nothing of that experience. Subjecting myself to the same inevitable 1/6 when that point in life repeats itself.

  • @sebw1847
    @sebw1847 4 роки тому +213

    10:35 dnd players at any given moment

    • @neji2401
      @neji2401 4 роки тому +13

      Except while being attacked

    • @jubes1300
      @jubes1300 4 роки тому

      especially if the GM's anything like dungeoncraft

    • @cthulhufhtagn2483
      @cthulhufhtagn2483 4 роки тому +5

      It's more than a mantra. It's a way of life.

    • @the_kraken6549
      @the_kraken6549 4 роки тому

      Here here

  • @scrotymcboogerballs6756
    @scrotymcboogerballs6756 4 роки тому +11

    10:34 Every DnD player rolling anything ever

  • @IAmAPeti
    @IAmAPeti 3 роки тому +8

    I love how Kevin just says: "Right... *WRONG* "

  • @cake0539
    @cake0539 4 роки тому +38

    My Board of this game fits pretty well to the Karma theme:
    On the head of a snake, theres always a kid doing something bad (e.g. hitting a cat) and on the tail theres an Image of the consequence (e.g. being bitten by the cat)
    On the ladders its the other way around (e.g. watering plants on the bottom and having beatiful flowers on the top)

    • @hanamae600
      @hanamae600 4 роки тому

      Cool! We have a similar board to yours as well!

    • @eliannadouglas3408
      @eliannadouglas3408 3 роки тому

      I have that one! There's someone skating on thin ice too, right?

  • @Sausketo
    @Sausketo 4 роки тому +145

    18650's are safe to use as swapables if you inspect the battery every time you swap it, and only transport them in protective cases, not just in your pocket

    • @Sheridantank
      @Sheridantank 4 роки тому +4

      The point I believe was that got shouldn't use them in homemade devices like this one. Not unless you know how to build in protections for the device. If you use them in devices that call for them and as recommended they are safe.

    • @Sausketo
      @Sausketo 4 роки тому +5

      @@Sheridantank ah you are correct about that

    • @JoshuaJohnsonHou
      @JoshuaJohnsonHou 4 роки тому +16

      This is all about right to repair, there are many makers who can safely use these battery cells. There are many tools that people who don't know better shouldn't use, but that doesn't mean consumers can't learn how to use things properly.

    • @sixaintnine
      @sixaintnine 4 роки тому +8

      @@syber-space This should be higher up. I had no idea Vsauce is anti-learning and is in the business of fear mongering. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Everyone sells out eventually.

    • @beep3038
      @beep3038 4 роки тому

      @@Sausketo so delete and/or edit your comment

  • @patricker113
    @patricker113 4 роки тому +6

    We used to go backwards when we exceed what's needed to reach the end. Makes the game longer and gives other players a chance to catch up after snaking down.

  • @CensoredHarbor
    @CensoredHarbor 3 роки тому +6

    I'm just here to fly back in my chair every time Kevin yells "right- W R O N G !"

  • @abel.d
    @abel.d 4 роки тому +213

    "93 to 25 -> minus 68."
    DO NOT RIDE SNAKE

  • @BernieYoda
    @BernieYoda 4 роки тому +105

    13:21 me with my ballpoint pen when the teacher suddenly asks me something and I haven’t been paying attention for the last 20 minutes

  • @shrutithakur1423
    @shrutithakur1423 4 роки тому +3

    *The board game, today called Snakes and Ladders, originated in ancient India, where it was known with the name Mokshapat or Moksha Patamu. It's not exactly known when or who invented it, though it's believed the game was played at a time as early as 2nd century BC.*

  • @JohnyMCness
    @JohnyMCness 3 роки тому +5

    I think the rule of needing that precise roll to get to the goal is a message in itself, towards the end its easiest to mess up...because needing that precise roll basically increases the likelyhood of hitting that last snake

  • @callumsylvester9921
    @callumsylvester9921 4 роки тому +275

    So Kevin has now become an English teacher, trying to show the deeper meaning of a few pieces of wood and an animal that doesn’t even have any limbs
    PS. Love the content

    • @superposition2644
      @superposition2644 4 роки тому +8

      Don't badmouth the snake overlords, you'll get shipped an electronic spring-loaded ambush box!

    • @falsemimicry
      @falsemimicry 4 роки тому +5

      the danger noodles

    • @jblen
      @jblen 4 роки тому +2

      Imagine having a meaning behind that. It's almost as dumb as having a meaning behind really thin, bleached wood with ink on each slice to show different shapes.

    • @thecarrots6395
      @thecarrots6395 4 роки тому +1

      The Hive Mind Oho, a wild Smallant1 viewer

    • @jblen
      @jblen 4 роки тому +1

      @@thecarrots6395 danger noodles were a huge meme, it's not just a smallant thing

  • @HalcyonVoid
    @HalcyonVoid 4 роки тому +209

    That battery warning is very misguided. Yes, you shouldn't keep lithium cells just thrown around, but the devices that use them have the protective circuitry in them. You can buy cells with more robust protective layers too.
    The irony too, is that the videos of batteries busting are from cellphones, which should have better protection against that sort of thing, no?
    The real reason for the AA batteries was probably one of convenience and cost. You can buy the proper circuits to keep lithium batteries safe, but that is just added cost.

    • @ThisIsAigle
      @ThisIsAigle 4 роки тому +10

      i was just thinking that. most vape devices have built in protections now, as well as function as the charger. and almost NONE of them use snap in place connections like described in the video.

    • @4ipon4ik
      @4ipon4ik 4 роки тому +6

      ua-cam.com/video/qi7ThAdSBX8/v-deo.html

    • @zeejenkins
      @zeejenkins 4 роки тому +8

      Yes this LG marketing BS is just that, BS

    • @ElectronicControl3R
      @ElectronicControl3R 4 роки тому +5

      someone send this to louis rossman vsauce is a shill for the lobyists against louis rossman

    • @mtallan
      @mtallan 4 роки тому +1

      ElectronicControl3R exactly what I thought which is why I read this comment. It was uncanny to see this “public service announcement” match the LG ad almost exactly.

  • @tomsmith6878
    @tomsmith6878 4 роки тому +1

    The phrase starting at square one comes from football (soccer) radio commentary. 'Back to square one' meant passing backwards into one of the 8 rectangles that the pitch is divided into to describe the game easily for people who could only hear and not see.

  • @purplelotus531
    @purplelotus531 4 роки тому +7

    Vsauce: “insert anything” right?
    Me: yeah seems reasonable
    Vsauce: WROOOOOOOOONNNNNGGG

  • @tqser
    @tqser 4 роки тому +44

    "It is lit"
    -They

    • @Memerath
      @Memerath 3 роки тому

      @mari morango ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ 10:18

  • @FinlayHamm
    @FinlayHamm 4 роки тому +92

    Kevin: talking about game
    Kevin 5 seconds later: b a t t e r y e x p e r t

  • @bobbusc
    @bobbusc 4 роки тому +8

    I like the idea of finding life lessons in board games. They're great teaching tools. I'm not crazy about the idea of this showing good and bad decisions based on dice rolls though. I feel like the message would be stronger with more player agency.

  • @EggShellGames
    @EggShellGames 3 роки тому +16

    9:18 He reacted so fast to the “snakes” “chuting” from out of the box!
    Edit: Did his hands get electrocuted? look at them!

  • @poopagore
    @poopagore 4 роки тому +92

    *"HII HOO HII HOO HII HOO HIIAAHH"* 10:51

    • @LouieFromPikmin
      @LouieFromPikmin 4 роки тому +2

      “AYE! OH! AYE! OH! AYE! OH! AH!
      A A Y Y E E ! O H H H ! A A H H !”

    • @SacsachCCABP
      @SacsachCCABP 4 роки тому +1

      Hahahahahaha

    • @COZYTW
      @COZYTW 4 роки тому

      #learning #education lol

    • @carealoo744
      @carealoo744 4 роки тому

      100th like!

  • @cheeseburgermonkey7104
    @cheeseburgermonkey7104 4 роки тому +243

    Kevin: gets to 100 on the board
    Snakes:
    *THIS IS SPARTA*

  • @lightyagami5483
    @lightyagami5483 3 роки тому +15

    As an Indian Hindu, I and all the generations before me have played this game. This can be easily bought and can be a great moment for family get-togethers... but no one ever told me this meaning of life... there are a lot of things contributed to this world by Indians, and yet we aren't aware of them ourselves. I wish all countries and people come together and try to learn about us, whereas just because of the British we have deviated from our true path.
    I wish we all can work as HUMANS and try to advance ourselves even more, rather than playing the dirty game of international geopolitics...

  • @lanachiu793
    @lanachiu793 2 роки тому +1

    "He promised me, that it will not burn down my house."
    The box: **explode**

  • @225Perfect
    @225Perfect 4 роки тому +404

    LG's battery thing is really about trying to stop people from being able to repair their electronics. Louis Rossman just did a recent video about how their campaign is pretty much bs and lies. Love the video, not to hot on the sponsor topic.

    • @HelamanGile
      @HelamanGile 4 роки тому +11

      True

    • @caleb-hill
      @caleb-hill 4 роки тому +8

      I second this

    • @DunnickFayuro
      @DunnickFayuro 4 роки тому +44

      With the average level of stupidity in the general public, I think this has to be done. Just look at how many broken smartphone screens you see on a daily basis: people can't handle fragile electronics properly. This level of carelessness becomes dangerous with bare cells.

    • @sohotcall
      @sohotcall 4 роки тому +6

      Why not they just make the anode and cathode of 18650 be more separated?

    • @Mercilessonion
      @Mercilessonion 4 роки тому +12

      LG had a Gas leak in India killing many locals. The gas names styrene was released and people were killed in their beds sleeping

  • @LevantWasTaken
    @LevantWasTaken 4 роки тому +168

    10:51
    Lyrics:
    Golly oh!
    Golly oh!
    Golly oh!
    Haaaaah!!!
    (Slowed)
    Golly oh!
    Haaaah!!
    *chuckle*

  • @coleairoso365
    @coleairoso365 2 роки тому +2

    If you played by the rule that you must roll exactly what you need to get to the exit, you'd have an equal chance of winning as landing on that final snake each time you were within 6 spaces of 100. Just an interesting thought.

  • @easilyoffended8106
    @easilyoffended8106 3 роки тому +1

    I love how the subjects of math and psychology touch each other so often.

  • @jakubedzior
    @jakubedzior 4 роки тому +154

    On average that's how many steps forward you're making each roll of a dice:
    (1+2+3+4+5+6)/6 + 0.5*(10/100)*11.8 - 0.5*(11/100)*35.27 = 2.15
    I know you've always wanted to know this. You're welcome.

    • @the-old-channel
      @the-old-channel 4 роки тому +7

      Jakub Kędzior now based on this let’s predict the average length of the game.

    • @TheBasikShow
      @TheBasikShow 4 роки тому +3

      Why are you multiplying the snake and ladder options by 0.5?

    • @HeavyMetalMouse
      @HeavyMetalMouse 4 роки тому +8

      Why are we multiplying the ladder and snake expectations by 1/2? If there are 10 Ladder spaces, the probability that you land on one of them, without knowing your square of origin, is about 10/99 (no roll can make you land on Square 1). If there are 11 Snake spaces, the probability that you land on one of them, without knowing your square of origin, is about 11/99 (same reason). Shouldn't that expectation be, then: 1/6 + 2/6 + 3/6 + 4/6 + 5/6 + 6/6 + (10/99)x11.8 - (11/99)x35.27 ~= 3.5 + 1.192 - 3.919 = 0.773
      This implies that, if you were to average the progress made on every roll during a game, you'd be making less than one square of progress per roll on average.
      As such. you're looking at an expected value of about 129.4 rolls from one person. This is likely an over-estimate of the average due to the 'averaging out' of all the snakes over the board making the 'edges' of the distribution fuzzier.
      In theory, it should be possible to figure out an exact representation of the expected progress of a move given what square you're on, and then use some stochastic analysis to figure out your probability of being on Square X after N moves... It's certainly a tricky game to analyze by hand.

    • @jakubedzior
      @jakubedzior 4 роки тому +5

      We are multiplying by 1/2 because after some steps chance of stepping on snakes or ladders is no longer 10/100 or 11/100 cause you already got past some of them.
      For simplification I just multiplied by 1/2.

    • @HeavyMetalMouse
      @HeavyMetalMouse 4 роки тому +5

      @@jakubedzior Ah! That is a fairly reasonable justification, yes.
      In that case, we'd be looking at an average number of rolls of 99/2.15 ~= 46 rolls or so.

  • @orbyfied
    @orbyfied 4 роки тому +145

    *a potato falls from the sky*
    Me: "well, this is random"
    Vsauce:"NO!"

  • @christiandzurik3104
    @christiandzurik3104 3 роки тому +1

    when vsause says "Whatever this thing does it will.... DO" is the best line ever

  • @RealMeowlus
    @RealMeowlus 11 місяців тому

    "...spring-loaded snakes." is my favorite quote ever

  • @rhonin2295
    @rhonin2295 4 роки тому +65

    "The game goes on until it doesn't"

  • @loolka2029
    @loolka2029 4 роки тому +49

    Something: exists
    Kevin: *WRONG*

  • @Norbal.
    @Norbal. 4 роки тому +4

    *Quote of the year, every year*
    \"Right? Wrong!"\

  • @alecxander9573
    @alecxander9573 4 роки тому +4

    10:35
    Kevin: don’t roll a one, please
    Me: *pray for one*

  • @dzarthedemon4855
    @dzarthedemon4855 4 роки тому +99

    7:40 "It's harder to follow a path of good than it is to follow a path of bad"
    Sans: *Am I a joke to you?*

  • @sanitarysanchez
    @sanitarysanchez 4 роки тому +60

    I have the right to bare cells!
    Do not deny me my rights!

  • @KentchessLe
    @KentchessLe 7 місяців тому +1

    "Alright kids today we're going to play snakes and ladder"
    the quiet kid at the back of the class :

  • @manavkumar348
    @manavkumar348 Рік тому +1

    When i was a kid, i used to play this game a lot. I had many boards, every one was different from the other, i remeber one had a snake that started from 98 or 97 and its tail ended at 9 or 10

  • @ChozoSR388
    @ChozoSR388 4 роки тому +98

    The funny thing is, instead of telling people, "Don't buy bare cells ever", they should be promoting and teaching battery safety. Li-Ion cells can be used in all kinds of maker applications. LG Chem just doesn't want to educate the consumers about how to keep their products safe. If you know what you're doing, and make sure that the cells are safe to use at all times, such as inspecting the cells for wrap damage prior to each installation of the cells, re-wrapping as necessary, or having someone familiar with the re-wrapping process do it for you, making sure that you keep any loose cells you may be carrying with you (such as an extra set of cells in the case of vapers) in an appropriate battery box, you're pretty much fine. This is fearmongering. Just like any technology, there are risks involved, yes, but as long as you educate yourself about those risks, and make sure you have proper safety protocols for that technology in place, you're fine. Do your homework.

    • @qui9159
      @qui9159 4 роки тому +7

      Louis Rossmann made a video addressing this. his analysis of LG's commercial at around 3 mins.
      ua-cam.com/video/qi7ThAdSBX8/v-deo.html

    • @ChozoSR388
      @ChozoSR388 4 роки тому +7

      @@qui9159 Yeah, I saw it. I totally agree with him. They make uot like you're getting a bomb in the mail when you buy bare cells. What a wonderful way to portray a product that they themselves produce, huh?

    • @HelamanGile
      @HelamanGile 4 роки тому +8

      It's not about the safety they don't want us to repair

    • @rampagent9226
      @rampagent9226 4 роки тому +9

      Proper education is a must. Yes you can clean with ammonia. You can clean with bleach. But for the love of all that is holy do not mix the two.
      I'm tired, it's just an example.

  • @Dexobite
    @Dexobite 4 роки тому +29

    10:50 someone should make a remix of this
    “EI OH EI OH EI OH

  • @QemeH
    @QemeH 4 роки тому +5

    At my grandma's the house rule used to be "every player gets 4 meeple, you can choose which one to advance but not split, first meeple wins for the team"
    That way it DOES become a game of strategic ability and I learned a lot about probability and expected value a lot earlier than most of my class mates :)

  • @georgeeconomou7026
    @georgeeconomou7026 3 роки тому +3

    Am I the only one who noticed that he gave the red piece a second turn in a row there? The game started with Red moving 1 space, then Yellow moved 4 spaces, then Red moved 5 spaces to square 7, and the Kevin just rolled for Red again, even though it was Yellow's turn.

  • @SourPeachHeart
    @SourPeachHeart 4 роки тому +81

    In my family if you get near the end and the number of on dice is more than the space left you have to go back with the rest of the dots left

    • @Benjamin-od8od
      @Benjamin-od8od 4 роки тому +11

      its supposed to be played like this i think

    • @SourPeachHeart
      @SourPeachHeart 4 роки тому +2

      WAIT 5:31 it also says you can't share a space!
      Please tell me that this is only an American thing.

    • @zero_prfctn
      @zero_prfctn 4 роки тому

      I’d play a mix of both. My friends and family would often fight about it and I’ll be the one to choose how to play...

    • @powerpug964
      @powerpug964 4 роки тому +1

      I always share spaces

    • @MouseGoat
      @MouseGoat 4 роки тому +2

      @@zero_prfctn Its such a pointless thing to fight about, as there's literally no difference in outcome whatever you do, as long as you roll the dice and don't cheat, whoever wins will be random. what ever freaking rules you decide to have.
      Its the illusion of control, you not in control, you have no control.

  • @samarthkhandelwal5263
    @samarthkhandelwal5263 4 роки тому +18

    Kevin: Snakes and Ladders is a simple child game.
    15 minutes later, Snakes and Ladders represent the Essence of Humanity and tells meaning of life

  • @mgiselaf2182
    @mgiselaf2182 3 роки тому +4

    "ay, oh, ah"
    -Kevin

  • @Mr.khan11
    @Mr.khan11 2 роки тому

    Seriously, I never thought of this, this just open my mind ...thanks Kevin

  • @julianbo5870
    @julianbo5870 4 роки тому +74

    "I am fully charged!" - The Medic

  • @hawkeyes4768
    @hawkeyes4768 4 роки тому +78

    wish i had this info when i was a kid lol

  • @skyler9332
    @skyler9332 3 роки тому

    seriously though, this is such a well-put video.

  • @LuigiBones
    @LuigiBones 3 роки тому +1

    "There is really only one game, the game in which each of us is a player acting out his role."
    Or, in modern, less philosophical terms: "every game is technically a role playing game, in that you play a role"

  • @sciblastofficial9833
    @sciblastofficial9833 4 роки тому +68

    10:50 I-O-I-O-I-O-I! [ii-oo-ii!!] (What does this mean? Is this a secret code? Is Kevin referencing the nursery rhyme "Old McDonald had a Farm"? Is Kevin thus referencing McDonalds? Is he sponsored?)

    • @Bee-rt2sn
      @Bee-rt2sn 4 роки тому

      XD

    • @Bee-rt2sn
      @Bee-rt2sn 4 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💥💥💥💥💥

    • @Barc112
      @Barc112 4 роки тому +2

      Should that snippet from 10:50 be sampled to make a "lead-up part" (don't know the real name) before a Dubstep drop? Yeah, of course

    • @wellno9276
      @wellno9276 4 роки тому +1

      it's the I in right? and o in WRONG

    • @mityakiselev
      @mityakiselev 3 роки тому +2

      IOIOIOI is 85 in binary... of course! How could I have been so bl~

  • @bableshdabral3888
    @bableshdabral3888 4 роки тому +21

    10 year old: Simple game exist
    *Kevin hold my calculator*

  • @Thiago100Zwetsch
    @Thiago100Zwetsch 4 роки тому

    I used to play a version of this game with my grandmom and my mom a long time ago. Great time, you know!

  • @mi-do8hf
    @mi-do8hf 3 роки тому +1

    Choosing to allow rolls higher than needed to win actually affects length a lot, and not because of it being tedious to roll exactly. By forcing you to roll exactly you allow more opportunities to roll onto the final snake at 99, when you got to 98 you had an equal chance to eventually roll either a 1 and go back down, or a 2 and win, a 50/50. When you allow higher rolls your odds end up being 83.33/16.66, a major difference.

  • @jaredblake9335
    @jaredblake9335 4 роки тому +84

    New shirt idea.
    Aiiii!!!
    Ohhh!!!
    Ahhh!!!
    I'd wear it.
    Edit:
    With snakes around the words.

  • @evalogan6984
    @evalogan6984 4 роки тому +12

    0:48 what my English teacher asks me to do on my essay

  • @thenonfurry
    @thenonfurry 3 роки тому +1

    0:47
    This is something that Bill would say completely.
    “REVEAL THE MEANING OF LIFE!-Sort of.”

  • @justincoleman9776
    @justincoleman9776 2 роки тому

    The lack of skil or strategy was what made me play this game ONCE in my life

  • @dominikbeitat4450
    @dominikbeitat4450 4 роки тому +11

    Amazing how a game that's supposed to teach you a thing or two about decisions and their consequences gives you no choice at all. You just roll the dice and hope for the best.

    • @Haze01Smash
      @Haze01Smash 4 роки тому

      Does it become a game of skill if it teaches players they should learn how to throw dice to get the rolls they want (or avoid the rolls that lead to snakes)?

    • @ronitdhanphole
      @ronitdhanphole 4 роки тому

      3-year-olds are not mature enough to make decisions, the game makes the decision for them.

  • @ThePrimith
    @ThePrimith 4 роки тому +38

    Alright, here's another philosophical take:
    In Snakes and Ladders, your choices are meaningless and the outcome was predetermined. You rise and fall because of the whim of chance, but you will reach your outcome eventually.

    • @durg3sh
      @durg3sh 2 роки тому +2

      Yea, hindu philosophy says that you can't change fate, but you won't know what it is, so one shall keep working for it to achieve internal piece, moksha.

    • @Arkylie
      @Arkylie 2 роки тому +2

      Yup. That's the original idea, that external forces (including the karmic balance of previous lives) shape us more than our ability to choose can. Which is why it chafes against people who hold the viewpoint that we can make better choices.
      As for me, I expect if I were to play it again, I'd house rule something like I did for Candyland, just to keep my mind from going numb while babysitting. For Candyland, I had each player draw a hand of five, and you could combine any cards with the same color, e.g. moving forward three green spaces instead of just one, and you could use the location cards to send your opponent backwards. Made it so much more enjoyable for me, since there was an element of strategy to it. I could see playing S&L as rolling three dice and choosing which one to use, or perhaps having a selection of five types of dice and getting to decide which one to roll for this particular role. Strategy and math/probability means way more fun!

  • @truekurayami
    @truekurayami 11 місяців тому

    The exact roll/spin to finish rule has a hidden meaning that was overlooked especially since it was developed to help teach the ideas around Karma and Nervana. Stagnation, that point when you can't progress further without patience and understanding least you fall to the tricks of overconfidence.

  • @victorremonquevedo8330
    @victorremonquevedo8330 4 роки тому

    i like thatyour investigations focus on table-games