How I Would Rewrite the 3rd Arc
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is definitely not a play-by-play on how I would rewrite the arc, but for a basic overview I'm quite happy with it!
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Bumblebee saying "snudoo" carried the arc
Lol
Snudoo and Willow x Sundew were the best parts of the entire arc. Blue is also adorable, and I like book 14 because Snowfall was funny and had a good character arc
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"I...HATE the breath of evil plotline...'' Me: Yes. good. continue...
Me too
Y E S 😅
I agree
YES
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I think it would also be nice to add that rather than meeting Luna in the epilogue at the end of the second arc, Moon has a vision of pantala, or at least the silk wings, and maybe in the new epilogue of arc three we see Moon and her friends arrive on pantala to set up a theoretical 4th arc about the two continents reconnecting
Yes! I still really think Pantala and Pyriah should reconnect in some way. Either Wasp is still too powerful to defeat on Pantalas own, or Moon is curious enough about it to go there with her friends and some characters from arc 1.
Yes! Build some kind of hive/silk bridge across the ocean!
who would be the villain if wasp is down for the count?
Yes! As a long time fan I kinda want a connection to Pyrrhia to see how our old friends have grown and evolved after the Darkstalker issue. The one Tui wrote was kinda depressing tbh. You know, all the *Death*, and *Doom* and complete utter hopelessness? Yeah...
I'm also kinda sad that Cyprus cut off Freedom (Formerly named Lizard.) But I'll admit, the history behind Pyrrhia and the Scorching was cool, but SO, SO, confusing....
I still like this version though.
guys, who is that on the right of cyprus’s drawing
give the breath of evil some breath mints ong
This one wins
It was Luna’s magical floss that did defeat it.
From magical teeth death spit to magical wrist dental floss
Beautiful
@@JustaSamoyedso real 😂
I now dub this the Cyprus Pantala AU and I will be writing with it because it’s awesome!
Ditto
leave a link under this comment when you're done, I'd love to read it!
I am currently working on a Pantalan AU as well
@@lucky_lynx7867 Hehehe I made a prophesy for it in my comment for you to use if you can find my comment (It also comes with context)
@@Unyx22same
From what I remember, we are told that the Chrysalis in Jewel Hive goes around like the Scooby-Doo gang because of how "nice" Lady Jewel is.. But that in Bloodworm Hive the Chrysalis is, so we are told, more of an actual resistance movement that helps carry out a terrorist attack.
So, perhaps, an alternate book 14 could be from the perspective of a member of the Bloodworm Hive Chrysalis. Both showing the abuse they get, and the desperate methods they resort to to resist. As a book from the perspective of dragonets, obviously this would mean sending child soldiers into battle. It can show the commencement of the burning. The protagonist could see a troop of Hivewings try to salvage the wingless Silkwing dragonets as the structure falls apart and, reluctantly, stops fighting to help with that... So when it comes to negotiating between the three tribes to stop Wasp, the first hurdle is to make sure the Silkwings from the different hives don't start fighting each other.
Just think, one of them seeing the Treehopper / Tau relationship and having absolutely the worst reaction. Because unlike how the two Leafwing factions that reluctantly tolerate each other, the Silkwings could be outright violent.
Edit: Also, if you're going to bring back the flamesilks, you need to make Admiral want to simp for Wasp and stay there as everyone else agrees to leave. Seriously, WTF is wrong with that guy!?
Her comparing the Chrysalis unfavorably to the Talons of Peace doesn't make much sense to me either. The Chrysalis actually does some stuff as compared to the Talons who stole some eggs and then became glorified babysitters.
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May I mention that the Talons of Peace probably did Rebel Stuff, we just don’t see it because the only Talons our protagonists were close to were the Guardians looking after them and they were a separate part of the Talons.
The other Talons were at a camp far away from our protagonists and we know they weren’t babysitting dragonets other than their own.
Is this good enough proof that the Talons of Peace did other things besides looking after the Dragonets of Destiny?
UHHHH THIS ARTWORK IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING!!! THIS IS MY FAVOURITE ART YOU'VE EVER MADE YET!!
agreeeeeed!
agreed i saw this interally fangirled
I'd also like to say if I would write an arc 4 it would focus on the rebuilding of pantala (this is going off the original story) and would focus on fact that the Hivewings were basical Germany during ww2 and extemist groups would try to renestate Wasp to the throne, and Phirryia being the western powers would have to act as a peace keeping force there and deal with the problems in thier own kingdom.
No it needs to be about octet peace macker clif and so on
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oooh yes!
@@MaryDavison-bx5cn While I think that would be intresting why not deal with these issues but use those characters I just gave a plot not characters and I am just a fan of the books my opion is no greater than your's
Why is there always a character that's basically a n@z1 in xenofiction?
Oooo, this’ll be interesting! I liked how the third arc started off, but i feel like it went downhill after the poison jungle, lol😂
I liked book 14, but book 15 was not good. 14 had a funny main character (funny to me at least) and her paranoia was funny. I also liked her arc
@@the26thLetteroftheAlphabet i liked 14, i just felt like it didn’t help out that much with the plot aspect of the third arc. It was basically just snowfall freaking out about these dragons invading her kingdom, which is a perfectly normal reaction and fun to watch, but idk.
Oo hi syd!
Agree completely lol
@@Syd_LovesToDraw yeah. it didn't fit in the arc at all, but it wasn't a bad book as a whole
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Great video Cyprus! This is wayyy better than the arc 3 we got, and I think most of us hope that arc 4 will have more of a arc 2 flavor. Anyways, great art and great chat!
for me, i liked the whole “breath of evil had its own consciousness and mind”. it held the faint edges of a native species fighting against an invasive species, and failing, then slowly evolving to take back its original environment. back during the waiting-for-book-fourteen-to-release era, i had the idea of the breath of evil puppeteering a dragon corpse to act as a “i’m one of you, trust me” kind of thing. i sorta want to go back and try to flesh it out more as an alternative story line, but im not sure how
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but the breath of evil was controlled by a human, but it’s a very infectious plant, so it didn’t have a brain, it was being controlled with something with a brain
Ooh! I love that idea! If you want them, here are some of my tips/ideas on how to flesh that out. Feel free to take them, or don't. These are just my takes on the concept.
Obviously, the plant can possess you. But what if it could *overtake* the mind? Like, use it as (essentially) dirt to grow in, and thrive or something. That could add a threat (that would most likely hurt the dragons), and would make it so it could possess the dead as well. Maybe they could end up as plants or something? Slowly be turned into trees ig.
Make it manipulative. Like really manipulative lmao. It possesses corpses and people, and possibly uses pollen as a way to infect others. It infects a part of the brain (control center, to think logically, whatever), and yeah. Making it do that could add loads of horror and tension if done correctly.
Then, from there, it can grow off of the living, and use them to establish control over Pantala.
There's probably some sort of cure (weedkiller hehe) that can help them or something. The three tribes (LeafWings, SilkWings, and HiveWings) need to work together to eliminate the breath of evil, to save their kind. Even just a ragtag gang, like the actual arc, would be awesome. And if they convince the rest of their tribes, the alliances would make more sense.
Like how Cyprus said in the video, Cricket could have more depth, and realize that SilkWings also are sentient (surprise surprise), and then try and convince her tribe to stop being douchebags to them. Add some sort of conflict here, maybe? In the end, the HiveWings HAVE to cooperate. Due to gluttony and greed, they're hesitant, but they don't want to get infected and be turned into a plant.
Also, main vid talks about SilkWings actually having a real resistance, and showing differences between their respective team vs the LeafWings'. That's another good thing to try and build on.
Then, the LeafWings (very similar, just show how they're angry little things but forced to cooperate)
And if you're wondering, being FORCED to do something CAN work as character development.
Soon, they actually work together and are able to get their W E E D K I L L E R
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honestly when I first read this arc I didn't think much about it and enjoyed it a lot, but thank you so much for this video I love your interpretation so much more and now I can think a lot more critically about it and I realize all that was missing. I did like hearing about the history of the humans of Pantala and Pyrrhia in the original books, but don't think it had to be the main point and the breath of evil and cottonmouth and lizard really was just a stretch and didn't make sense. I would LOVE to see the full version of your books they would be amazing!! (hint hint) ALSO CAN I JUST SAY THE ART 🤯🤯 you continue to inspire me so much and THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL ILY
This is exactly what happened to me. ❤
One of my favorite videos you’ve ever made!!!!!!! I love this idea, and although I love the writing of book 14 by itself, I do agree that it stand out at lot, this is such a beautiful idea!!
Love your art! keep up the good work! tysm for inspring my art! and who would you consider your favorite character ?
I didn't love Arc 3... But i might have with a few changes similar to this! Great job. I would miss the scavenger reveal and seeing Pyrrhia, but from a story standpoint, I'm inclined to agree a few changes would have been nice
I think Cricket having a character arc similar to that of Judy from Zootopia is a great idea
Honestly I love both plotlines. A look into Hazel's mind would have been pretty interesting, and to have Luna's fiery personality back would be amazing. And Wasp remaining the villain with no evil plant would be great.
Wasp felt like the second coming of Blister, who, in my opinion, would’ve made a great evil queen. With Scarlet off the throne, I missed that chaos… I wonder who would’ve been the wickeder queen!
Very sudden beginning! 😂
I feel like Tui had to include the trip to pyrrhia to fulfill the prophecy and tie in the idea that not one tribe is better or worse than the others like the pantalan dragons think, she had to include the pyrrhian dragons to show them that you need everyone to work together to solve this problem and that our differences make us stronger together I feel like that was a big message in this arc.
Love this art piece so much! I feel like you really captured the friendly, playful, yet serious relationship of the arc three main characters! I also really enjoyed listening to your insights regarding a such a controversial and flawed plot. I look forward to you next video!
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I would have loved to read this plot line so much more than tui’s. I do adore book 14, but it most definitely falls closer to a legend than a main series book. I hope arc 4 brings back the passion of the first 2 arcs!
HI you mentioned arc 4? Do you have any info on it? Like when it’ll come out. Whenever I try to look it up I get nothing
@@The.Random.Zwe know nothing right now except that it’s confirmed to be in progress!
@@The.Random.Z all I have is that it is coming. I think tui is working on something else rn, but maybe soon!
Something I think arc 3 could have done better: GIVE US WASP HIVE CHRYSALYS
a Wasp Hive Chrysalis with HiveWing rebels would be a fantastic literary reward for Cricket after she has to accept that her tribe is corrupt. She finds out there are still well meaning HiveWings in her tribe and perhaps even that her mother and father were figureheads of the rebellion, and that's why Wasp did away with them.
Yes, i think having a actual resistance would make the ark soo much better, I think Moon would still have a vision and possibly try to get there, but get there once the wasp-killing is over to help the Silkwings sort out who's their new leader. I think it'd be fun to see Io or Luna as the Silkwing queen, but there are a lot of dragons who'd be great too. You did great Cyprus, I liked your idea a lot more than the original lol.
I love your artwork, Cyprus! I also loved your rewrite for Arc 3, because your version is what I was desiring when I was reading the books. I wish the OG Arc 3 showed more of Pantalan diplomacy and rebellion without Pyhhria needing to be there. If you want to actually write the story, I would be all for it!
I also think it would've been interesting, inspired by other ideas, where the LeafWings hated fungus as some type of evil presence and that it was a forbidden practice to speak to fungus. Then in Arc 3 they find the Breath of Evil itself was a fungus that went into the brain. Queen Wasp finds this out because Hawthorne was practicing the forbidden "dark" arts. It also would make more relativity to the zombie fungi we have in our world where the fungi take control of insects such as ants.
3 mins ago wow I love your content keep up the good work Cyprus don’t give up your art has massively inspired me to draw my own dragons thank you!
I do agree with your AU version of Arc 3 of Wings of Fire, i was reading 14 and 15 soon after the books came out and was bored and was no longer being hung onto by the tension of scenes in my head like the first 2 Arcs. I would've loved to see more tension within Arc 3
I really like this AU as someone who despises arc 3's conclusion. This would also set up arc 4 as the kinda rebuild of Pantalan civilization and the two continents connecting. Amazing art btw 🤩
I personally liked the third arc, definitely my second favorite but I do like what you've done here.
the plant had no brain. a scavenger did
Well then he should have told someone so that he was actually scary
Was the scavenger the invincible lord from dragonslayer? Cant remember, haven’t read the books in a long time
I mean, I love your version so much, BUT, I think I like arc three as it is a TINY bit more-
Minor spoilers for third arc
I feel like arc three was mostly just a whole lot of almosts. Blue ALMOST gets caught by HiveWing guards, Cricket ALMOST gets added to the Hive-mind by Wasp, Blue and Luna ALMOST couldn't escape the flamesilk cavern, ect. Probably the worst that happens is just the breath of evil gets Swordtail and Blue, but nothing else really bad overall, and I feel like the tension was a bit up and down. Still, I loved the introduction of new points of view, especially regarding all of the Pantalan tribes views of each other, and how they slowly change once they all learn more about each other, so in my opinion, it was still a great arc.
I love this idea of a new arc 3! It was really funny because I was thinking about if I got the chance to re-write arc 3 what would I do and I was like Cyprus please make a“rewriting arc 3” video! And you did! I think that this could also include Pyrrha in some way but I’m not sure how. Thanks so much for making this!
Best line of the day- OF this video "I...HATE.. the breath of evil plotline...'' lol
i agree with book 11-13. And Yes Book14 felt like a Legends book or a different focus from the pantala (kinda like we are taking a break from the Arc 3), i had to stop reading and didn't read book 15 in fears it may ruin the "What it could be" for arc 3.
and how you talk about how Arc 3 should be, Yes
I would be down to hear a full detail write :D and see the drawn pictures of the scene, by your hands or by the fans
Love your work Cyprus and, the artwork you did is cute, a real moment to show the fighting is over and peace and joy can enter on Pantala once again. Does leave me question what is by the mountains or how Hawkthorn got turn (could be manipulation or Hawkthorn had enough and made something to bend to Wasp will)
Maybe Lizard/Freedom could still be in this rewrite of arc 3 but as a hybrid baby between a hive wing, a silk wing and a leaf wing as a representation of the freedom and union the pantelan tribes now share.
I like the idea of her being in arc three but I honestly think that it'd be cool if she stayed the dragon tribe she is but instead it went back in time thousands of years ago and showed us what it was like for her and how she was treated. Maybe it would be cool if she had leaf wing silkwing family members since hivewings didn't exist until three thousand years later and she had the same personality but was somewhat interested in helping the pantalan tribes have peace and freedom.
@@GoofyiiDoodler. Me likely.
But with your version of Freedom what do you think she would do to help with her goals of peace?
@@Drawing-Roses I feel like if they somehow managed to get her free from cottonmouth she would somewhat reluctantly follow them and realize the chaos pantala has gotten into and try to start helping people while having hatred of scavengers inside her. If she wasn't freed I would assume that maybe she could control the vines and kind of choke or physically control then instead of mentally. I don't remember everything that happened because I haven't read it in awhile
I really really like this idea.
I freaking agree!
9:53 To be fair.... Burn DID have a silkwing wing in her tower.
Great ideas! Honestly, I’ve thought about this on my own for a while. Maybe I should write my own video?
You opened my eyes to a whole different reaility i think your rewrite would be really good
While I fully understand your point of view (and really like your take on the plotline), that wasn't what was in my mind when I was reading the books. I see, retroactively, that I was more impacted by arc 2 than 3, but I very much did like the multiple lore/world building we were presented with, with the icewing animus artifact and the gut wrenching info of the life 5000 years earlier. Oh the tears I gave to Freedom. I vividly remember planning to knit that scene with all the tribes, between the continent, and Freedom, finally liberated.
That's why, in my eyes, even if it's not the best writing, it will always have a place in my heart.
Here is my idea for a prophesy/prologue for this arc.(forgive my off characterization I don't write)
It had been another normal day at the academy. So normal that it honestly felt weird coming from just dealing with a vengeful queen, a criminal plot to take the sandwing throne, and a 2000 year old, 6 year old rising out of the ground to enchant everyone to follow his whims. Quibi thought as he went to his winglets sleeping cave.
"Hey moon going to go to sleep now or is it to early for you-"
But moon immediately interrupted him with a somber, almost despairing, expression on her face
"I-I just got another prophecy and it's...not up to us to decide how it goes"
"Well, how does it go there's no harm in sharing"
Moon then stood up and out of her sleeping area and spoke:
"From the dry Savana of once luscious forest across the sea"
"One tribe suffers from a silence inflicted by another and a delusion of content"
"One tribe suffers from a poison in their blood and a pride of the past"
"One tribe suffers from an exile to the last forest and a rupture in their society"
"Come together and share your struggles under the will to forgive faults"
"And act unified"
"Or your will, will fall to one"
-The Prophecy of Panatela
Your idea for your arc 3 rewrite is amazing especially since you put an overarching theme and framed each of the characters developments within it. That would probably prevent the arc from going off the rails and suffering from a lack of direction that is especially felt when switching books (i'm looking at you book 14).
Also, as a senor in highschool taking rigorous classes in all my subjects, one of the things that made me dive into the fandom (after looking at it from my sister) was how Tui develops theme or messaging of her stories through a surprisingly bloody world and complex characters for a children's book. Honestly, I would say that each book works great as a standalone! It's just how they mesh together that's the problem.
Edit: I swiched my video commentary with the Prophesy
Edit: I spelled Prophecy correctly
Also, I never really thought the 3rd arc was that bad, but hearing YOUR book idea, I think it is much better. It is a lot more clear, and I love how you keep it on the same track.
As a writer myself, I could never really quite figure out what went wrong with the end of the series, but you explained it perfectly! I love love LOVE your solution, it just fits the series so much better and I would totally read it in a heartbeat. Do you have any books of your own out??
Ngl I enjoy both ideas especially since as you said we got little update for Pyrrhia but I wish there was more winter content, hell maybe even he goes with the group to save silk wings and leafwings
Day 5 of asking Cyprus to make a what if Qibli accepted Darkstalkers offer! :3
That would be cool
I do believe you are right. On all of it, actually. Especially on the Cricket personality. I would have loved seeing her realize Hivewings might not be all that great and mighty as she grew up learning. Book 14 (like you said) was completely random. It was a good read; it was interesting. But did not quite work. Finally, I would have LOVED a Hazel book. That would have been great. You were right again about the last book. Lunas Pov did not quite feel like a great last book. I loved Dusky (he's a good target for potential future books), but overall the last few books were not the best. This was a great video. Have a Blessed week Cyprus. Hope you're doing well! :) 🫶🏼
I thoroughly enjoyed the third ark. After giving it a reread, I noticed the subtle hints at the Chrysalis given from the very start of book 11. I would have enjoyed seeing it play a bigger role in the series and this would have characterised the silk wings as a more powerful tribe. I also think that the way Luna actually ended up in Pyrrhia. However, I can’t offer a plausible solution to this so I’ll drop it. I really enjoyed your solution and your characterization of Cricket, but there are several plot points that I preferred in the original series:
1. Luna was very well written in book 15, or she would be had it not been for her initial presentation in book 11. She came off as bipolar in book 15 and we got to delve into her mental state and personal issues. She was sort of broken which is interesting in its on right, even if completely different than her presentation in book 11.
2. I think book 14 was necessary and it was amazing because it shattered the harsh icewing traditions. Although it significantly slowed the pacing, bringing the series to a near standstill, it was still essential to drive the plot forward. Snowfall was excellently written and I don’t think I would have been satisfied if the two continents hadn’t come together somehow, especially with the whole Clearsight issue.
3. Although it was messy and confusing, I had always been curious about the Scorching, which is why I loved the insight into history and storyline that gives the world some context. The pacing in this book was messy at best but the whole story in itself was enjoyable nonetheless.
You made some amazing points and this arc was far from being perfect, but I think it deserves more credit than you gave it. I’m not an author by any means so if anyone has any other input I’d love to read!
I love this interpretation! it's well thought out even if you don't say so, and I do agree it has an arguably better plot, and definitely better characters, than the actual 3rd arc. However, I did love the way the real 3rd arc delved into the history of humans in this world, so if this AU was written, I feel it would be good to have a cottonmouth-like figure without all of the mind control, but with generally the same backstory.
That cold open 🗿🗿🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
I WANT THIS ARC!!! O.M.G! This is sooo good! PLEASE 🙏 make this a real arc!!!!!!
how you started the video LOL i agree but do like 3rd arc tbh i find it still quite good
Ark 3 ruined ALL my favourite characters... Moonwatcher acted out of character and got captured in the stupidest way because Tui couldn't figure out how to incorporate her powers, plus she and Tsunami have night vision which they could've used... Tsunami was rendered useless after one fight... Qibli's smarts was barely used properly for planning and i would have loved to have seen him give Moonwatcher his Skyfire to help her cope with the thousands of minds she is suddenly connecting too... plus Sky's personality in this is just anoying.... i love him but not THIS him... we have a rainwing, so use their invisibility to scout, mudwings can hold their breath for up to an hour, SO USE IT! What happened to the prophecy saying :
"Open your hearts, your minds, your wings, to the dragons who flee from the hive.
Face a great evil, with talons united, or non of tne tribes with survive."
If the only way for them to save everyone would be to use ALL of their unique traits! That is what should have happened!
Sorry for the rant. 😅
The epilogue for book 15 should have been about Pantala meeting some dragons from Pyrrhia or something
"I hate the breath of evil plotline!" Cyprus and every single WoF fan to ever exist said in union 😂
I totally agree with all of your points! I actually enjoyed book fourteen, but it has zero place in that arc. I also really disliked book 15 because the ending was just incredibly sad, and in book 11, I liked luna, but in her book, I dispised her. It was the same with Sundew, she seemed cool and a little bit too much like tsunami, but I didn't hate her but after book 12 her personality was just everywhere and wasn't very enjoyable. Anyways, sorry about that rant, lol. I hope everyone has a blessed week😊
Even though I really like the arc we got, I cannot deny this, or something along the lines, would probably have been better
Especially Cricket, I would have LOVED to see a bystander character in her
I would LOVE an arc 3 written more like this! I really liked books 11 and 12, and I enjoy books 14 and 15 for the extra lore, but I don’t think that they belong here. Creepy plants are cool, but yeah, it didn’t really fit in Arc 3. Making the other books fit more with 11 and 12 would have been amazing!
First also OMG I agree
3rd! ❤❤
I do agree that some of the plot lines needed fixing but some of the things you said weren’t that interesting to me I think that you need to add like the breath of evil in some plots but not in to much like in the book. I think the one book that needed the most fixing was book fifteen because it kept talking about how they were stuck and didn’t really talk about the other characters so you were pretty good about that. I also think that you were right that it should be a different main character because Luna just wasn’t really the best about being the main character in book fifteen. I also agree that Luna and Swordtail should have stayed the same as they were.
Pretty Art :D
And I like how you rewrote the 3rd arc :) really interesting!
I can't watch this cuz I'm only on book 12 nooooo 😭
I’m halfway through book 15 so I can’t watch it either 💀😭
l have read the graphic novels and I am starting the novels [half way threw darkstalker] ❤🩹
would love a bit of both your rewrite and the a bit of the original plot
I LOVE the art SO much!!!! Awesome work! 😁
I love ark 3 but I do agree with some of that
First i just wanna say, awesome video and I love your art. This is a really well thought out rewrite to the end of the series and I totally agree the last couple books were lowkey letdowns.
To add to your thoughts and criticisms, I have my own Opinions abt the end of the series, and I ended up writing a Lot more than I intended to.. oops
My main gripe with the end of the series is the SCAVENGERS. The way the narrative tried to shoehorn scavengers into the story as like "ooh we're actually sentient thinkers on the same level and we're gonna be involved in your society from now on" annoys me SO MUCH. I personally thought Dragonslayer was dumb, and I hated it even more when they somehow found their way into the actual series, and as the _root cause_ of all the events in it as well-- from the stupid powerhungry one controlling the dragons through the Breath of Evil, to the needless exposition of the Scorching (and, thanks to that, the weird implications of a post-apocalyptical human world caused by dragon siege. i personally thought an explanation of the Scorching was unnecessary and just created more plotholes than it filled). Also, despite being the most recent books from the franchise I've read, the ending to the entire thing was just so... forgettable. I don't even remember how the Wasp problem or the messed up tribal class thing was resolved, all I remember is the annoying dragonet that died six thousand years ago who was awful through the entire book and the author tried to give a failed "redemption" arc. what even was that
I also think the involvement of the Pyrrhia characters was unnecessary and didn't really add anything to the plotline (even if it was nice to see some familiar faces)-- I think tying Moonwatcher to the Pantala storyline and having _another_ prophecy only really restricted the narrative. That being said, I _thoroughly_ enjoyed the fourteenth book and what was resolved in it. It was completely out of place in the Pantalan storyline and had absolutely nothing to do with that plot, but imo it was an awesome addition to Pyrrhia's story, from the IceWing social changes to the Jerboa storyline. Especially the Jerboa storyline. reading that one really messed me up (in a good way). The Dangerous Gift should have been the second Legends book we got instead of Dragonslayer.
that is all, idk if anyone will end up reading all this but again great video :>
I think Hazel being a more promident character is a good idea.
Loved the 13th book
This drawing is so cute, btw I love ur art and take a lot of inspiration from u.❤
I have a question how does the prohcecy play into your version of the story?
I thought cottonmouth was the “brain” of the plant 🤔
I haven’t read them in a while though
i completely agree, i think that in the 15th book, especially, all Luna did was sit around and be sad, not a great way to end a series, also in the OG book 15 end, what happened to the breath-of-evil did it just blow up when she cut the vines connecting to Cottenmouth and Freedom? i very much think that it could be redone or just changed a little so that as @NadiaDoseArtThings says: Bumblebee saying "snudoo" carried the arc. 👍
I've never had a problem with arc three after reading it, but I do understand your dislikings toward it. I would also probably this alternate story you came up with equally enjoyable, although where do the pyrrian dragons come in? I think that was an important part of the book connecting the continents.
Don't know how it happened, but as I was watching my thoughts kind of drifted off and wound up at my love for Hazel and how she may just be my favorite character in arc three (literally my soul twin). Like five seconds later: "Hazel is the book 15 protagonist" Me: 😱😱. Btw been watching your channel for years and this the first time I've been able to leave a comment, so I just wanted to say what a big inspiration you've been to me and keep making amazing stuff! 💖
I didn't even realize it but the only reason I kept reading the last arc IS so I could hear quibli say something. Also the end is nice but if we were polishing it off I think a better idea is to have it so something else kills wasp off. I think that in the end sundew or Luna wouldn't have the guts to kill wasp or they would hesitate then the one there would get badly injured and then maybe it would end up that the breath of evil slowly kills dragons and wasp would die leaving the reader worried about sundew or Luna and having them feel better when said character is talking to their lover in the epolouge and they are scarred but ok and feeling happy.
i think this rewrite is really great!! a lot of other folks in the comments are also suggesting arc 4 be about the uniting of pyrrhia & pantala, which i think would've been a lot better as well tbh. i really did love book 14 (more than most, i think) but it definitely stuck out in terms of being out of place in arc 3....
I also really was let down by the fact that some of the cast who got to see Moon (only luna, really) went off about how "she looks just like clearsight!!" and then when they actually got to the continent, they did nothing with that because Moon was either invisible or wrapped in silk. it was frustrating they didn't have the hivewings/silkwings react to someone coming to their continent who looks, essentially like the dragon theyve been worshipping for centuries. it just feels like an odd opportunity missed for a unique scenario. (and if people didn't want it to be moon, this would've been a great time to introduce either a new night-wing or a nightwing who got a lot less screentime/development in arcs 1 and 2.)
Honestly I agree. The whole arc is trying to be carried on the back of an evil sentient potato.
I do still think that it had to tie back to Pyrrhia at some point because otherwise it would’ve basically felt like a spin-off.
I would love to read this!
l feel the same about arc 3. I have not read it but my sis has and she told me about it. 🐲
Ive always thought that arc 3 was my least favourite, but this rewrite makes it wayy better. The only thing i would change was possibly adding pineapple, bullfrog and sky back into the storyline because rn it feels more like a seperate story and ive got to say i prefer Pyrrian dragons to Pantalan.
I really enjoyed this, but if you were to write it I would enjoy it if you somehow included Lizard/Freedom cause I think her character had real potential, maybe as a hybrid prisoner instead of a half-dead 5000-year-old dragonet, anyways on the whole amazing job and I love your writing and drawings, especially what ifs!
oh I LOVE your rewrite ideas!
I would 100% read this new arc! ❤❤❤
10:30 Brilliant!!! This makes the climax even more valuable 'cause they waited!!
Yes 3rd Arc of Wings of Fire and agreed and also nice video Cyprus 👍🌟
I personally don’t agree with Cyprus but I do think the second arc was the best
Ark 3 was, to me, an enjoyable ark. However it really could have been written better. But what people don’t seem to realize is that we are comparing the books to arcs 1 and 2. Of course they would be different. Also 15 200+ page books could NOT have been easy to pull off and I could understand if she just ran out of steam at the end.
We should try making Wasp the POV for a book! It would be... Interesting 😈
“Cricket and Sundew BEE-LEAF all is lost”
your art is absolutely stunning! !! the only thing is that i do not know who the blue silkwing is on the very right corner though.;)
I like both.
I love your version of arc 3
This rewrite is amazing! I loved the plot of the story.. besides the point where they revealed the breath of evil as sentient. Your rewrite was really interesting, and it would be cool to see someone tackle it as a fic, or something! :)
Maybe to keep the Phyrria arc (while still maintaining every other change you made), a party of earlier-arc protagonists (like Moon, Quibli, etc) could make their way over in the second book, because Moon had a prophecy about Wasp and the situation in Pantala, or the Seawings find the continent in a similar way to canon. They’d meet the main squad of this arc, get the details of Wasp and the Breath, and stick around for a bit to help.
Then, when Wasp starts winning and the lowest-low is about to be reached, instead of bringing the entire still-uncontrolled population of Pantala, they could send a smaller group of individuals, maybe the injured or younger dragonets, who couldn’t help with the effort and would only be at risk. One or two of the original Phyrrian group could lead them back, with others staying behind.
This would allow Quibli to be his glorious self, the inter-continent relationship to be established, and for Snowfall to have her arc with dismantling the Icewings caste system, without the negative consequences. It could maintain the flow of the plot, leaving the main group on Pantala to lead the resistance, like you said, while also adding stress and tension among the fleeing dragons. Maybe there’s some sickness going around, or the predominantly younger refugees have no way of contacting home. Doing both plots (your rewrite’s and a modified canon’s) could solve the issues you brought up, AND explore multiple darker subjects/themes at the same time, without wrecking the pacing. Maybe Bumblebee went to Pyrrhia, how would the separation with Cricket play out? How would the Pantalans react to the dragon who looks just like their Prophet (Moon)? All fun ideas to work with.
I REALLY hope this doesn’t sound critical, I adored both the original canon and your rewrite, which inspired this rant. This is just intended to be an idea, and I hope it comes across like that! (If it comes across as condescending on accident, I can fix it :3)
Arc three was good, but it has a LOT of issues, and your rework is a really interesting and amazing way to look at it!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video, and I hope you have a good day!
Edit: I accidentally struck-through "like you said" which was an accident, so I fixed it! Sorry!
I absolutely ADORE arc 3, but your version is SO MUCH BETTER-
My opinion on the cannon plot:
Book 11: Alright, could've been better, but still good. I'm just really happy that we were introduced to new tribes!
Book 12: Absolutely love it! But again, could've been better... I just like how Bumblebee exists there, and also how we finally found out part of how Wasp controls the HiveWings- Cricket is one of my favorite protagonists tho :D
Book 13: SUNLOW>>>>>
And I loved how we finally got to see how the LeafWings had been living all those years, from the divided tribe to the dangers of the poison jungle. Also, Bumblebee>>>>
Book 14: Probably my least favorite book in the arc, simply because of how little happens. I could literally summarize it in one sentence. 'Paranoid, inexperienced queen finds a magical ring that puts her through irrelevant character development while unfamiliar dragons escape to her continent.'
Book 15: The first few chapters were okay-ish, but the rest... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i would LOVE if this were to be how arc three was written. i mean i guess its cool that we got to see what happened during the scorching and a check up on pherhia, but like, we could have had, like, a cave with a carved story of the scorching in the wall, and we dont really need to know about pherhia during the pantala arc, y'know? also, i literally HATED the othermind plotline. i have this thing where i think about all i can remember of the latest arc i read and all i can think about is #1, how the othermind plot S.U.C.K.S. and #2, how bad i feel for bumblebee's biological parents 😢( i know most hivewings are bad and bumblebee could have had abusive parents but what if they were some of the good hivewings, that only wanted a child of their own, but it ended up being kidnapped by the dragons they are rooting for 😢😢)
I really, REALLY like this idea! I ALSO REALLY HATE the b.o.e plot line. And also in the book 15 a.u, you could foreshadow the scorching for arc 4. I think that would be ePiC!!!!!
But, surprisingly i actually liked The Breath of Evil and while it is a weird idea, i would have liked to have seen Wasp, herself have to work with everyone to defeat it, because who doesn't want to see Wasp's ego just crumble, because honestly Wasp loved control, i could just imagine her reaction to learning she ain't in control, but then Wasp would have tried to kill our Main Cast, but eventually would be killed.
Good video, but here's how I think the killing Wasp scene ould take place.
Luna held out her talons, the glowing glands glimmered like dancing firelight. Hazel stepped aside as Sundew pushed past, her scowl deeper and more angered than ever before. (Will this really be easy?) Hazel looked at the throne Queen Wasp sat upon, her stinger out and glittering dangerusly in the firesilk light. Luna leaped over the woven silk rug stretched out before her, and phumes of orange silk spilled from her wrist. Wasp let out a bellow of agony and her wings flared and closed like currtens thrown briskly over a body. An image that Hazel wished she hadn't thought of.
I didn't altogether mind the breath of evil as it was presented in The Poison Jungle, as an entity unto itself. It felt to me like a decent, if overly simplified, allegory for the sorts of things tyrants will do to screw themselves over in the name of power- a weapon that they don't fully understand the ramifications of using, but they use anyway because of short term net gains. It's the hoisted by their own petard principle. I don't like how it completely supplanted Wasp as the main antagonist, though, and that we never got to deal with Wasp directly in the story. If I had my way I'd have made it closer to a situation where Wasp is still the main driving force behind the conflict and still largely maintains control, but is serving the Breath of Evil's agenda in the process and setting up for a situation where, for some future generation of Pantala, all the dragons are just slaves of the plant. Not HER problem, that's for the future Hivewings to sort out!
(Also, it's a fantasy story with dragons who can somehow survive having a baseline body temperature that sets everything around them on fire, see the future, and overwrite reality just by willing it, I don't find "the plant is intelligent and has its own agenda" that much of a reach. XD )
Where I started to really roll my eyes was in the reveal that the Breath of Evil was actually just a mummified ancient human. That felt like it completely undercut the menace the Breath of Evil had in the Poison Jungle, as this hivemind amalgam of an entire continent's worth of plants. That felt like a threat of proportions that were sincerely scary, and I was really invested in how the heck the characters were going to address that. Cottonmouth was so unimpressive by comparison- this megalomaniac who had such a fragile ego it made every interaction with him downright pathetic. I agree with you that it should have come down to an issue of the Pantalan tribes working together to resolve the conflict, overcoming generations of divisions and trauma to find common ground. That's always been the thesis of Wings of Fire, that we're stronger when we work together. I do not like how Luna spent the entire back half of the book standing around being exposited at, and how much of a nothing-burger the climax was. (Then again I kind of feel like Tui struggles with writing satisfying payoffs in general? And I've definitely gotten the impression I'm not alone in that opinion.)
Your art is very beautiful, by the way! Definitely it came out fantastic, I really enjoy your designs for all the characters!
"So you think the breath of evil plotline was bad?"
"Yes, and I'm tired of pretending its not."
This defiantly needed saying, and I'm glad you did. Don't want to hate on Tui, but to me it felt like she didn't have a clear idea of what the ending was going to be when she started the book. In the rest of the series, there were hints, and lore drops leading to the finale, but the "Breath of evil?" It was just dropped out of nowhere. I hope Tui listens to the message and sees this as a way to improve rather than us just being terrible.
I was really engaged through 11 to right before the end of 13. I was impressed with the moral difficulty and complexity of the plot lines they were going for, with themes of colonialism, revenge, and societal movements. And then… then… sentient plant? Wha…? It felt like a severe left turn far away from really digging into the themes they had set up into territory that left me increasingly bewildered. I think something more along these lines would have made much more sense to me. Also, nice artwork!
I am “politely” saying I would probably hate the new book 14 because I love Snowfall and Lynx and that entire book. though I think this plot could be good and they could make a legends book for Snowfall that would have Qibli and Lynx. I like the new book 15 more than the original because Hazel. I love Lynx though so if you’d write the new 3rd arc you have to write something about Lynx, maybe a new what if?