Happy blessed Sabbath Brother Kody and the Truth Triumphant family and all brethren in this comment section. Thanks Kody for this truth will make time to listen to it. God bless
After four years of studying the truth about God, I have never heard any of the teachers of the non-trinitarian understandding of God apply the EW passage you started with in the way that you present their views. I agree with you that the vision is not at all about the nature of God. However, it does present the terrifying possibility that one who rejects the truth that God has given in His word can end up worshipping at the feet of Lucifer while sincerely believing he worships the Father and His Son.
The Holy Ghost referenced in 2 Peter 1:21 is the Spirit of Christ 10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: 11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Peter 1:10-11 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:21
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV - 1John 5:7 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. KJV - 1John 5:8
The understanding that the Holy Spirit isn't a person is found in the vision End of 2300 Days. We see both Christ and Satan breathing the Spirit upon their followers. The ones that looked to Christ received the Holy Spirit. The ones that looked to the false Christ received the spirit of Satan. Sister White wrote of the object of Satan giving of His spirit. It was to keep them deceived and to draw them back. Eternal life is to know the only true God and Jesus Christ. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, "My Father, give us Thy Spirit." Then Jesus would breathe upon them the Holy Ghost. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace. EW 55.1 Satan appeared to be by the throne, trying to carry on the work of God. I saw them look up to the throne, and pray, "Father, give us Thy Spirit." Satan would then breathe upon them an unholy influence; in it there was light and much power, but no sweet love, joy, and peace. Satan's object was to keep them deceived and to draw back and deceive God's children. EW 56.1
It’s funny how you speak so lightly of Feast Days when the SDA movement started with calculating date of the Antitypical Day of Atonement which occurred on exact Feast Day of Biblical calendar. Ellen G White dates 2nd coming of Christ(harvest by angels, bundling of tares; see PP) at the Feast of Tabernacles. Since other events happened on exact day of Feast, then it’s logical to think future events will too like the harvest mentioned by Ellen G White
The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. He has sought to shut Jesus from their view as the Comforter, as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, “This is the way, walk ye in it.” Review and Herald August 26 1890. this is what your prophet wrote, so you and your prophet are not saying the same thing one of you is lying. I wonder do you even know if this quote exist ? am sure you do and many others . They are quoted to you over and over and do you ever quote them to your listeners ? i wonder why ? no matter what you do or say the truth will always remain the truth.
You criticize brethren who think Daniel 12 prophetic time periods are literal and future when there is evidence that it is. Ellen G White says parts of Dan 11 AND 12 are future. She specifically says there are “prophetic periods”(denotes time) in Daniel “extending to the very eve of the great consummation”(RH Sept 23, 1883 par 6).. So which prophetic periods are left? Ones in Dan 12 (15MMR 228.2= future)are good candidates cuz that chapter has future events. She also says Daniel’s visions at Ulai and Hiddekel are in the process of fulfillment, foretold events will soon come to pass= future. So parts of visions in Dan 8(Ulai) and Dan 10-12(Hiddekel) are still future. We know 2300 day already happened in Dan 8 but the Ram and He Goat explanation might be future. We know parts of Dan 11 are still future, events in Dan 12 still future which may include the prophetic time periods.
Also the 42 months in Revelation 13 are definitely future according to Ellen G White. She says “THEN WILL TAKE place the final fulfillment of the Revelator’s prophecy” and quotes Revelarion 13:4-18 which includes the “forty and two months” prophetic time period.19MR282.1… Since it’s future, has to be literal 42 months
*16 MR 334.2 is where Ellen G White said visions in Ulai and Hiddekel are now in the process of fulfillment and events soon come to pass= future. So we have to search Daniel 8(Ulai) and Dan 10-12(Hiddekel) and find future prophecies to study and understand
The they you speak of does not represent all. Have you done a study on the ministration of the angels yet? And according to the three angels messages Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Who is the He. Him, His you worship?
Happy Sabbath brother Kody and brother's and sister's.!
Happy Sabbath dear Truth triumphant family‼️✝️❤️😍🙏📖🎉
Happy blessed Sabbath Brother Kody and the Truth Triumphant family and all brethren in this comment section. Thanks Kody for this truth will make time to listen to it. God bless
Happy Sabbath Br. Kody and to the Truth Triumphant family and to all of those in this comment section!
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After four years of studying the truth about God, I have never heard any of the teachers of the non-trinitarian understandding of God apply the EW passage you started with in the way that you present their views. I agree with you that the vision is not at all about the nature of God. However, it does present the terrifying possibility that one who rejects the truth that God has given in His word can end up worshipping at the feet of Lucifer while sincerely believing he worships the Father and His Son.
The Holy Ghost referenced in 2 Peter 1:21 is the Spirit of Christ
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:10-11
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Peter 1:21
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. KJV - 1John 5:7
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. KJV - 1John 5:8
The understanding that the Holy Spirit isn't a person is found in the vision End of 2300 Days. We see both Christ and Satan breathing the Spirit upon their followers. The ones that looked to Christ received the Holy Spirit. The ones that looked to the false Christ received the spirit of Satan. Sister White wrote of the object of Satan giving of His spirit. It was to keep them deceived and to draw them back. Eternal life is to know the only true God and Jesus Christ.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 17:3
Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, "My Father, give us Thy Spirit." Then Jesus would breathe upon them the Holy Ghost. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace. EW 55.1
Satan appeared to be by the throne, trying to carry on the work of God. I saw them look up to the throne, and pray, "Father, give us Thy Spirit." Satan would then breathe upon them an unholy influence; in it there was light and much power, but no sweet love, joy, and peace. Satan's object was to keep them deceived and to draw back and deceive God's children. EW 56.1
It’s funny how you speak so lightly of Feast Days when the SDA movement started with calculating date of the Antitypical Day of Atonement which occurred on exact Feast Day of Biblical calendar. Ellen G White dates 2nd coming of Christ(harvest by angels, bundling of tares; see PP) at the Feast of Tabernacles. Since other events happened on exact day of Feast, then it’s logical to think future events will too like the harvest mentioned by Ellen G White
The reason why the churches are weak and sickly and ready to die, is that the enemy has brought influences of a discouraging nature to bear upon trembling souls. He has sought to shut Jesus from their view as the Comforter, as one who reproves, who warns, who admonishes them, saying, “This is the way, walk ye in it.” Review and Herald August 26 1890. this is what your prophet wrote, so you and your prophet are not saying the same thing one of you is lying. I wonder do you even know if this quote exist ? am sure you do and many others . They are quoted to you over and over and do you ever quote them to your listeners ? i wonder why ? no matter what you do or say the truth will always remain the truth.
You criticize brethren who think Daniel 12 prophetic time periods are literal and future when there is evidence that it is. Ellen G White says parts of Dan 11 AND 12 are future. She specifically says there are “prophetic periods”(denotes time) in Daniel “extending to the very eve of the great consummation”(RH Sept 23, 1883 par 6).. So which prophetic periods are left? Ones in Dan 12 (15MMR 228.2= future)are good candidates cuz that chapter has future events. She also says Daniel’s visions at Ulai and Hiddekel are in the process of fulfillment, foretold events will soon come to pass= future. So parts of visions in Dan 8(Ulai) and Dan 10-12(Hiddekel) are still future. We know 2300 day already happened in Dan 8 but the Ram and He Goat explanation might be future. We know parts of Dan 11 are still future, events in Dan 12 still future which may include the prophetic time periods.
Also the 42 months in Revelation 13 are definitely future according to Ellen G White. She says “THEN WILL TAKE place the final fulfillment of the Revelator’s prophecy” and quotes Revelarion 13:4-18 which includes the “forty and two months” prophetic time period.19MR282.1… Since it’s future, has to be literal 42 months
*16 MR 334.2 is where Ellen G White said visions in Ulai and Hiddekel are now in the process of fulfillment and events soon come to pass= future. So we have to search Daniel 8(Ulai) and Dan 10-12(Hiddekel) and find future prophecies to study and understand
The they you speak of does not represent all. Have you done a study on the ministration of the angels yet? And according to the three angels messages Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. Who is the He. Him, His you worship?