My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness. I dare not trust a sweeter frame but wholly lean on Jesus' name. On Christ, the solid Rock I stand all other ground is sinking sand 🙏🏽🙌🏾
I love Dr. Vine because he is speaking the truth. I am a casualty of the GC's C-19 mandate!!! They will have to answer to God for their apostasy and corruption!!!!!
I was listening to Ester in audio on my commute and I am reminded by your comment that the enemy Hamen was within the gates and God sent Esther which like her uncle Mordecai, where both outside the gates. God used Esther to influence the King and Mordecai was on the outside to receive and give the news. We too will have this and need to be careful what is being said and what information we give. Thank-you for your comment because it has spoken to me through the story of Esther and my own things that is of great comfort. God bless you.
i'm from South africa and what you have said about the issues here are the tip of the iceberg. from preaching wrong sda doctrine to misappropriation of tithe money in the millions to not having none of our publications available to closing conference to book shops to pastors being overpaid for doing nothing the problem is massive. my problem is with members believing that the conference is the store house you cant even talk to them the norm is we just pay our tithes what they do with it is their problem they will answer to God
Thank you Pastor Bill for standing for the truth. I broke away from the GC two years ago and went to the Countryside Sabbath Fellowship. I wasn't aware of your ministry at the time. Thank the Lord for His Independent Ministries. All these Conference churches don't want to lose their finances, Shame, On Them. Thank you for supporting Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly.
Thank you, Truth Triumphant Ministry for being faithful and bold. You are on your rights to say: "I told you so". Also, thanks pastor Hughes for mentioning in your sermon the other pastors/ministries that have been courageous and calling out the sins of the Denomination.
Br. Kody here's the quote is found on what Sr. White said: What astonishing deception and fearful blindness had, like a dark cloud, covered Israel! This blindness and apostasy had not closed about them suddenly; it had come upon them gradually as they had not heeded the word of reproof and warning which the Lord had sent to them because of their pride and their sins. And now, in this fearful crisis, in the presence of the idolatrous priests and the apostate king, they remained neutral. If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. 3T 280.3
For Conrad Vine: Because the priests and rulers could not prevail against the clear, calm wisdom of Stephen, they determined to make an example of him; and while thus satisfying their revengeful hatred, they would prevent others, through fear, from adopting his belief. Witnesses were hired to bear false testimony that they had heard him speak blasphemous words against the temple and the law. “We have heard him say,” these witnesses declared, “that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change the customs which Moses delivered us.” As Stephen stood face to face with his judges to answer to the charge of blasphemy, a holy radiance shone upon his countenance, and “all that sat in the council, looking steadfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel.” Many who beheld this light trembled and veiled their faces, but the stubborn unbelief and prejudice of the rulers did not waver. . AA 98.3-AA 99.1
Yes Pastor Bill and Brother Kody, it would be an awesome reformation. The SDA leadership need to repent and rescind the disfellowship status of all of us they have persecuted in this manner. Then they need to be rebaptized by pastors like you. I’m serious! The Lord rebuke them!
The truth hurts and that is why the GC are trying to shut Conrad Vine and Pastor Kelly up but we must stand by the truth and thank the Lord for waking the people up. Thank you for sharing this Pastor Hugh’s God bless 🙏🙏
I am waiting for the time when parachurch is organized to contribute my tithe and offering to propel the three angels message forward. At the moment, I am contributing part of my tithe to independent ministries and the other part of the tithe I put it in the envelope and labeled for local church budget.
There's a difference between Faith and Idolatry. The Vine and Kelly issue is a wake-up call for the 'captive audience' that remains deluded within the corporate Adventist establishment. I've known the Adventist message since my childhood; fortunately, the Lord allowed me to discern the current duplicity of the SDA organization 23 years ago, so I separated myself from it, though I haven't abandoned the historic Adventist movement.
The days of conspiracy theory are over. Revelation 18:1 is the time space we are living in. Therefore, by the great illumination, we, even in SDA church, will have the light see what is going on. The Sheep and Goats will be separated.
The second tithe: 1.At the late camp-meeting and conference at Fresno there was unanimously passed by delegates and people the following recommendation:- We recommend to the prayerful consideration of our people in this conference the advisability of paying a second tithe, for the support of the church-schools and other financial needs in our churches." {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 3.7} 2. Thus what we recognize as the usual tithe, or the first tithe, was wholly devoted to the Levites with the priests. "The tithes of the children of Israel, when they offered as an heave-offering unto the Lord, I have given to the Levites to inherit." Num. 18:24. {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 4.4} 3. But the second tithe was retained by the person who tithed it, and was spent by him in whatever way he might choose, only in the service of the Lord. {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 4.5} 4. Thus the first tithe was given away by those who tithed to the Levites. It was called directly "the Lord's" (Lev. 27:30), and was wholly devoted to the service of the Lord, in the Lord's way, as He should direct, in the ministration and service of the priests and Levites in the sanctuary and among the people, while the second tithe, though also devoted to the Lord's service, was left altogether to the choice of the one who tithed it as to how he would spend it or devote it to the cause of God. Accordingly of this tithe it is written... [Read Deuteronomy 14:22-27] {Dec. 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 4.6} 5. Every third year there was a special use of the second tithe, as it is written: [Read Deuteronomy 14:28,29.] Thus for the two years they were not to eat or consume any of this tithe within their gates; but must take it, as it was or in money, up to the place that the Lord had chosen, and there they were to use it. Then the third year this tithe was to be laid up within their gates, and there consumed in hospitality to the stranger, fatherless, widow, and Levite, who should come and eat and be filled and rejoice. It was only the carrying out of the principle taught in the giving and distribution of the manna in the wilderness: "He that gathered much, had nothing over; and he that gathered little, had no lack." Through the second tithe the Levite, the fatherless, the widow, and the poor, who had little or nothing, shared in the abundance of those to whom God had given abundance. {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 5.2} 6. Also on this subject of the second tithe, indeed, of the two tithes, the spirit of prophecy has spoken, and made it very plain, as follows: "To promote the assembling of the people for religious service, as well as to provide for the poor, a second tithe of all the increase was required. Concerning the first tithe, the Lord had declared, 'I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel.' But in regard to the second He commanded, 'Thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which He shall choose to place His name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.' This tithe, or its equivalent in money, they were for two years to bring to the place where the sanctuary was established. After presenting a thank offering to God, and a specified portion to the priest, the offerers were to use the remainder for a religious feast, in which the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow should participate. Thus provision was made for the thank offerings and feasts at the yearly festivals, and the people were drawn to the society of the priests and Levites, that they might receive instruction and encouragement in the service of God. [PP 530.1] {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 5.4} Chapter 51, God’s Care for the Poor. 7. Every third year, however, this second tithe was to be used at home, in entertaining the Levite and the poor, as Moses said, "That they may eat within thy gates, and be filled." Deuteronomy 26:12. This tithe would provide a fund for the uses of charity and hospitality. {PP 530.2} Chapter 51, God’s Care for the Poor. There are 13 points but it may be too much to put in the comments. here are my notes for the first tithe: First Tithe: Numbers 18:21,24,26 1. Wholly devoted to the Levites and priest (Lev. 27:30,32) 2. Genesis 28:22 - Tithe is a tenth 3. First tithe given away to Levites - the LORD’S tithe 4. The second tithe retained by the person who tithed it, and spent by the person who retained it , stored up (Bestow vs. 26, 0f Deut. 14). 1 Cor. 13:3, 2 Kings 12:15, 2 Kings 5:24, Luke 12:17 5. First tithe not for the poor and stranger, fatherless. First tithe for the Levites ( their payment, an inheritance). 6. Genesis 14:20- Melchizedek as the high Priest is an example of Jesus Christ who is our high priest. Now we give to Jesus who is our high Priest before he was the lamb. Abram gave to the High priest after the Melchizedek order. 7. New Testament church practice tithe: Matthew 23:23, Luke 18:12 - before Christ died. 8. Hebrews 5:5: Christ, the example after the order of Melchizedek. Hebrews 6:19,20( sanctuary language).Hebrews 7:4, 5 - office of the priesthood. 9. Christ was not from the tribe of levi. Hebrews 7:14, Christ is priest after the order of Melchizedek 10. Hebrews 7:2 - Melchizedek CALLED the king of Rightousness and peace: now this pertains to christ. Both Christ and Melchizedek had no FATHER as written. What pertains to Melchizedek pertains to Jesus. Jesus did not NEED the Levitical order or permission because he was of the Melchizedek order given by God and outlasted the levitical order. This study blessed me and I released my burden of confusion in giving tithe to the GC.
You do realize that the tithe itself was essentially an income tax, right? They tithed up to 30% of their increase year-by-year. Should we tithe up to thirty percent of our income for so many expenses that go with being apart of a corporate church system?
Please don’t put Dr.Walter Veith in the same category as you have the others. He’s been banned as much as any other preacher and does not listen to what conference leaders want him to eliminate from his sermons. He needs our prayers, too along with Dr. Conrad Vine and pastor Ron Kelly🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It was Ivor Myers that had 3 ABN air his production of 7/7/07 the day for global latter rain. Their cover song was, "I can only Imagine." I wrote to Bob Trefsz for his thoughts. He was alarmed that all churches were sucked into this false revival. The song alone brought me chills. All I could do was warn others. Thar got me in big trouble. Since then I'm not surprised at anything he says.
These types of Religious error issues and Biblical corrections that are brought into the light by the faithful Saints is a testimony unto our God and as a witness to those who are lost. Yes we are truly in the end times. Let's have the patience of the Saints to see this through to the end, until Jesus's return. 🙏🙏🙏💖🎺🎶🎶🎶
When I was New to truth. I found my local SDA church. And After I seen on Sabbath Morning service a Pledge to the Flag of the second beast of Revelation. I was Taken back. I easOn Fire and hungry for truth. And thought I found the remnant. AdterI brought my concerns to the Pastor. He dismissed it. I stopped going and my heart hurt. I go to hold bible studies at a rehab with one of the elders now. But never became member. The messages are soft ball. Forbeing at the end of time.
Let me go back to the 80's era...when my mother and her sisters and brother could be heard talking about the errors of the Conference, even then. S and crying for the events of that time. Up to the time of their demise they gave counsel to beware. Their counsel to us younger generation was to follow the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy ( E.W. writings of which I thank GOD, my mother passed on to me many volumes)
And in 1980 a significant change to the platform of Truth given by God as the foundation of the SDA Church was CHANGED In officially adopting the trinity into the SDA Church. This is an abomination and your family would have been greatly disappointed. This was brought in by Neal Wilson, father of Ted Wilson. Shame
I just wish the brethren at Village church would stop the already lost fight with their Conference and be courageous enough to start their independence ministry. We have to time to waste with rebellious leaders.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Matthew 7:16-20) 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21)
The structure of the Conference sets the stage for authoritarian behaviour when the elected conf prez can appoint his officers. This is very very unwise. How did the conference structure came to be???
Why u bring Walter Veith into this? He is reaching the lost. His mission is to reach the lost in the world. He has no time to straighten the mess. God approved His mission. So do not accuse a man whom God has chosen to reach the lost and not in the church. I salute Walter for his service. May God continue to use him for His glory.
Dear Kody, please make sure of the facts before calling Walter Veith and others out. It might not be what you think or see on the surface. Let our words be true, but filled with love. We are to resolve this like Jesus would.
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I would like to look up some of these quotes from Ellen White. The problem is that I have all of her writings in the EG White app and when you mentioned page numbers there aren't any in my app app. Could someone let me know perhaps the chapter headings for the some of the things you have quoted from her writings. I agree with what you're saying but like the Bereans I want to check it out for myself. I want to make sure that I'm standing on and following the truth. Having said that I appreciate the pastor's that are crying out and sparing not. May God always be with you and protect you. God bless you
Hi, I understand your struggle. If you type into EGW writings or into Google search, a minimum of 3-4 words in the quote and they should pull up a list or perhaps only one match. I hope this helps ❤ ^_^
Perhaps this discussion should not be on UA-cam. 1Corinthians 6:4 “ therefore , if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! It is possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead , one brother goes to law against another. -and this in front of unbelievers.”
Right On, Kody! But don't hold your breath! Revival will NOT happen. The Lord has raised up His Last Generation-Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones, the One and Only spiritual "Body" of Christ, to put the final stamp on this apostasy "IT IS DONE!" Even So, Come Lord Jesus!
Pray and ask God for guidance. Are there people family or people that needs your help, have not good or place to live? Then they are the ones that need s the money, before it's worth nothing.
Min. 29:15 Testimonies for the Church 5:463. ChS 158.1 These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren, and to excite indignation against them.. ChS 158.1 the enemy within the church: I am reminded in the book of Ester the enemy Hamen was within the gates and God sent Esther which like her uncle Mordecai, where both outside the gates. God used Esther to influence the King and Mordecai was on the outside to receive and give the news. We too will have this and need to be careful what is being said and what information we give. God is a great provider if we will harken to his voice and he will lead us into the truth.
Those are strong words against fervent pastors who have brought many to the truth, so many stones throne in their direction. I think some of them don’t speak up not because of money but because they don’t want others to stumble and want to continue preaching the truth about God’s love and salvation plan.
Let us stand by the Word of God, practicing His principles. To many of us are relying on our own understanding instead of turning to the Word of God and the Testimonies for these Last days. We need to break these bonds of pride, as Laodicea is proud and self exalted. Its so disturbing that many pastors are silent on may issues, seeing the evil and downright sin and rebellion against the Straight Testimony by the same ones who employ them❗️why do these men who are supposed to be learned in the school of Christ accept this without protest? The enemy has gained control of the seminaries. So many continue on with their education in these seminaries and so called schools of higher learning, even when they are forced to abandon the pillars of our faith, and accept some new spurious teachings that lead them away from the Testimonies and Spirit of Prophecy. They won't get a degree and a good paying job if they resist or protest. They suppose to know prophecy, and know that the structure of God's church has always fallen, whether it be the structure of Judges, Kings, the Sanhedrin. They are supposed to know that God's faithful and Remant, who will not bow to the mark of the beast - a universally enforced false day of worship - sunday worship, all earthly support will be cutoff from them. So, tell me how can you keep your jobs when that time comes? So much compromising has taken place for so long, to many turning a blind eye, that it's the reason why we are here now. "What can I say to arouse our people? I tell you not a few ministers who stand before the people to explain the Scriptures are defiled. Their hearts are corrupt, their hands unclean. Yet many are crying, "Peace, peace;" and the workers of iniquity are not alarmed. The Lord's hand is not shortened that He cannot save, nor His ear heavy that He cannot hear; but it is our sins that have separated us from God. The church is corrupt because of her members who defile their bodies and pollute their souls." 5T 78.4 And yet we hear some of the leaders say "we have a bright future", inwhich they are crying "peace and safety": "If all of those who come together for meetings of edification and prayer could be regarded as true worshipers, then might we hope, though much would still remain to be done for us. But it is in vain to deceive ourselves. Things are far from being what the appearance would indicate. From a distant view much may appear beautiful which, upon close examination, will be found full of deformities. The prevailing spirit of our time is that of infidelity and apostasy-a spirit of pretended illumination because of a knowledge of the truth, but in reality of the blindest presumption. There is a spirit of opposition to the plain word of God and to the testimony of His Spirit. There is a spirit of idolatrous exaltation of mere human reason above the revealed wisdom of God." 5T 79.1 There are men among us in responsible positions who hold that the opinions of a few conceited philosophers, so called, are more to be trusted than the truth of the Bible, or the testimonies of the Holy Spirit. Such a faith as that of Paul, Peter, or John is considered old-fashioned and insufferable at the present day. It is pronounced absurd, mystical, and unworthy of an intelligent mind. God has shown me that these men are Hazaels to prove a scourge to our people. They are wise above what is written. This unbelief of the very truths of God's word because human judgment cannot comprehend the mysteries of His work is found in every district, in all ranks of society. It is taught in most of our schools and comes into the lessons of the nurseries. Thousands who profess to be Christians give heed to lying spirits. Everywhere the spirit of darkness in the garb of religion will confront you. God is taking charge of His flock when the unfaithful ministers are derelict of their duty: "If all that appears to be divine life were such in reality; if all who profess to present the truth to the world were preaching for the truth and not against it, and if they were men of God guided by His Spirit,-then might we see something cheering amid the prevailing moral darkness. But the spirit of antichrist is prevailing to such an extent as never before. Well may we exclaim: "Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men." I know that many think far too favorably of the present time. These ease-loving souls will be engulfed in the general ruin. Yet we do not despair. We have been inclined to think that where there are no faithful ministers there can be no true Christians, but this is not the case. God has promised that where the shepherds are not true He will take charge of the flock Himself. God has never made the flock wholly dependent upon human instrumentalities. But the days of purification of the church are hastening on apace. God will have a people pure and true. In the mighty sifting soon to take place we shall be better able to measure the strength of Israel. The signs reveal that the time is near when the Lord will manifest that His fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor." 5T 79.2 - 5T 79.4
What do you mean when you say Conrad Vine was “a part of the organized church”? He was a member in good standing, but he didn’t work for the Conference or the GC.
To me, this is simple; you are wondering after the beast if you do not oppose the leadership the SDA Church. I agree with you that now is the time to decide, leave or go. Well done Bill and Cody🙌🏼🙏😊
I listen and I smile. The only agony is for those that lifted the church into a part of ruling Diety. I was baptised into Christ and have had no issue with the little people flexing and celebrating their positions within the corporation 😂😂😂😂. I was stood down from head eldership for a reason I cannot explain to this day. My focus then was on my fellow family members and has not changed. The money issue? It’s only big for the corporation, not for Gods ministry. I have no issue as I watch it disintegrate . I don’t talk about where my tithes go to, save to say, I spend it on effective preaching of the gospel. The church already bows to the Jesuit climate change religion. Do I kick about that……no. No one seems to see it. Meantime do your best to work and talk your way to heaven but neither earn one little favour towards salvation
It is WAY past time to join the Procession of the Lord's Last Generation-Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones that have been crying out to the virgins that are still lingering in the apostate Seventh Day Adventist Church religious system of Matthew 25! "GO YOU OUT TO MEET HIM!" BEFORE IT'S TO LATE! REMEMBER, TOMORROW IS TOO LATE! Your friend and brother in Christ.
How dare Ivor M I’m not sure how he spells his last name. But how dare he accuse a servant of GOD a devil?!!! Who made you GOD. When were you gifted with omniscience?
That’s way they contrary to the teachings of the pioneers and sop received and still stuck with the greatest idolatry of all ,the trinity.Due to the fact that WCC issued the statement that none denomination can be called Christian,without having as fundamental doctrine the dogma of trinity,therefore they-churches-are entitled to be supported by government by tax deductions,they-the leaders of sda-decided to stick with the money which ultimately became the worshipping god of the church.
Jesus was a rebel. He blasted the Jewish leaders because He loved them. Elijah was a rebel, so was Jeremiah, John the Baptist. Samuel blasted King Saul for his pride and disobedience. Let’s be fair.Listen to what Ganoune Diop he is destroying the pillars of our faith and pulling us into ecumenism. May God help us. These are modern day voices. Cry aloud and spare not.
@AudreyMcDonald-u3f Jesus created the church and kept the sane doctrine. and touched no tithes. He wasn't right-wing nor promoted voting for evil conscience masters
Зачем вам разговоры об конференции? Вы же как бы вышли от них.Пусть делают неправду ещё.Конрад не завязан на вести третьего ангела и это его и не только его,большая проблема.
At the time Covid hit, there was a lot of fear and concern about the disease spreading and killing multiple millions of people in the US alone. I’m an SDA and I got vaccinated because I’m diabetic. Also there were many state mandates that everyone had to follow, even churches. Just because conference followed followed the mandates doesn’t mean that they will stand in favor of the Sunday. Making that assumption is foolish.?I’ve only been an SDAvfor a few years and I hate seeing this church embroiled in a political debate over vaccination mandates. As far as these conferences facing the lake of fire, That will be God’s judgment, not ours. 😢
You say these other men, mimistry leaders, are not standing up for right. May be true of some, but i do not agree that all are not speaking up and out.
These two guys are a bunch of gossipers instigating what trouble and multiplying the troubles that have come from this. If you have time to sit around and make a video and call people mafia dictators and call them a lot of other names that you’ve got time to go out and help the homeless and help people to be saved. You are not wasting your time you are wasting God‘s time and time is short he soon to come, and he will hold all of you gossipers accountable for your waste of time and words instead of using them to help the homeless help the youth help the elderly help the unsaved
My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness.
I dare not trust a sweeter frame but wholly lean on Jesus' name.
On Christ, the solid Rock
I stand all other ground
is sinking sand 🙏🏽🙌🏾
One of my favorite hymns! Thank you for bringing to mind again! ❤😊
I love Dr. Vine because he is speaking the truth. I am a casualty of the GC's C-19 mandate!!! They will have to answer to God for their apostasy and corruption!!!!!
Praying fot these men. Their salvation is at stake.
What truth? Can you send those "truths"? Please
i will be standing for both pastor Vine and pastor Ron Kelly God bless both men
The enemy is not in the gate anymore. The enemy within.
I was listening to Ester in audio on my commute and I am reminded by your comment that the enemy Hamen was within the gates and God sent Esther which like her uncle Mordecai, where both outside the gates. God used Esther to influence the King and Mordecai was on the outside to receive and give the news. We too will have this and need to be careful what is being said and what information we give.
Thank-you for your comment because it has spoken to me through the story of Esther and my own things that is of great comfort.
God bless you.
@sda4ever Thank you so much 🙏🏽
I hadnt thought of that! Thanks for the Haman connection ❤
i'm from South africa and what you have said about the issues here are the tip of the iceberg. from preaching wrong sda doctrine to misappropriation of tithe money in the millions to not having none of our publications available to closing conference to book shops to pastors being overpaid for doing nothing the problem is massive.
my problem is with members believing that the conference is the store house you cant even talk to them the norm is we just pay our tithes what they do with it is their problem they will answer to God
God bless pastors Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly.
Thank you Pastor Bill for standing for the truth. I broke away from the GC two years ago and went to the Countryside Sabbath Fellowship. I wasn't aware of your ministry at the time. Thank the Lord for His Independent Ministries. All these Conference churches don't want to lose their finances, Shame, On Them. Thank you for supporting Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly.
Thank you, Truth Triumphant Ministry for being faithful and bold. You are on your rights to say: "I told you so".
Also, thanks pastor Hughes for mentioning in your sermon the other pastors/ministries that have been courageous and calling out the sins of the Denomination.
Thank you Creator God for the conviction of the Holy Spirit in these men and publicly supporting them. Praise the Lord!
Doctor Vine is a Godly man sent to show the dirt in the GC.
I believe that Dr Vine is called by God to be the modern prophet who rebukes the error and the erring ones.
Amen my brother!🙏
Ellen G White says there will not be another prophet sorry 😎
@@Ramo718what’s God say. His word is final
Not Ellen’s
@@Ramo718 where she said that? What book ?
No chance. Conrad thinks the SDA church is Gods church. Read Amos 5:1-5. The virgin of Israel is fallen and shall no more rise
I stand for the truth and for Jesus Christ..
Thank you so much Pr Hughes and Cody for this elaboration. God bless.
Compromise IS REBELLION!
Br. Kody here's the quote is found on what Sr. White said:
What astonishing deception and fearful blindness had, like a dark cloud, covered Israel! This blindness and apostasy had not closed about them suddenly; it had come upon them gradually as they had not heeded the word of reproof and warning which the Lord had sent to them because of their pride and their sins. And now, in this fearful crisis, in the presence of the idolatrous priests and the apostate king, they remained neutral. If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God. 3T 280.3
Amen. "The store house is Jesus Christ", the truth, the way, the life. Amen
Thank you for this life-saving message.
Spread the word, the sheep is being led by wolves.
For Conrad Vine:
Because the priests and rulers could not prevail against the clear, calm wisdom of Stephen, they determined to make an example of him; and while thus satisfying their revengeful hatred, they would prevent others, through fear, from adopting his belief. Witnesses were hired to bear false testimony that they had heard him speak blasphemous words against the temple and the law. “We have heard him say,” these witnesses declared, “that this Jesus of Nazareth shall destroy this place, and shall change the customs which Moses delivered us.”
As Stephen stood face to face with his judges to answer to the charge of blasphemy, a holy radiance shone upon his countenance, and “all that sat in the council, looking steadfastly on him, saw his face as it had been the face of an angel.” Many who beheld this light trembled and veiled their faces, but the stubborn unbelief and prejudice of the rulers did not waver. . AA 98.3-AA 99.1
This use of Stephen and what the issue is does not weigh out on comparison
Brother Bill Hughes thank you, thank you so much for speaking the truth. May our Heavenly Father bless and keep you safe always.🙏🙏🙏🫶🫶🫶🤗
Kody u hit the nail on the head ‼️ I will stand firm on the right side with Pastor Vine so help us God ❤
Amen
He gets my tithe now.❤
AMEN! Your friend and brother in Christ.
Yes Pastor Bill and Brother Kody, it would be an awesome reformation. The SDA leadership need to repent and rescind the disfellowship status of all of us they have persecuted in this manner. Then they need to be rebaptized by pastors like you. I’m serious! The Lord rebuke them!
The truth hurts and that is why the GC are trying to shut Conrad Vine and Pastor Kelly up but we must stand by the truth and thank the Lord for waking the people up. Thank you for sharing this Pastor Hugh’s God bless 🙏🙏
Yes, "Take heed that no man deceive you." "To the Torah, and to the Testimony." shalom.
Dr. Vine is head of Adventist Frontier Missions, so he isn't totally banished from serving God!
And AFM deserves our support.
He so loves the mission work. He said as much
For how long will he be able to before they get him out
No one can ever ban you from serving God
@@StevenGale-yn1qsI have directed my tithe to AFM. I’m done with the GC
Amen. Pastor Speaking For The Truth. G.C Is Not The Truth Church. God bless You All 🙏.
Love you brethren! Stay strong in the Lord!
Havent heard from pastor B. Hughes in a long time. Nice to hear from him again.
The wheat and tears will grow together, God will judge, may the spirit of truth be with you all , blessings
I am for truth
I am waiting for the time when parachurch is organized to contribute my tithe and offering to propel the three angels message forward. At the moment, I am contributing part of my tithe to independent ministries and the other part of the tithe I put it in the envelope and labeled for local church budget.
Same here.
There's a difference between Faith and Idolatry.
The Vine and Kelly issue is a wake-up call for the 'captive audience' that remains deluded within the corporate Adventist establishment. I've known the Adventist message since my childhood; fortunately, the Lord allowed me to discern the current duplicity of the SDA organization 23 years ago, so I separated myself from it, though I haven't abandoned the historic Adventist movement.
The days of conspiracy theory are over. Revelation 18:1 is the time space we are living in. Therefore, by the great illumination, we, even in SDA church, will have the light see what is going on.
The Sheep and Goats will be separated.
The second tithe:
1.At the late camp-meeting and conference at Fresno there was unanimously passed by delegates and people the following recommendation:- We recommend to the
prayerful consideration of our people in this conference
the advisability of paying a second tithe, for the support of
the church-schools and other financial needs in our
churches." {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 3.7}
2. Thus what we recognize as the usual tithe, or the first
tithe, was wholly devoted to the Levites with the priests.
"The tithes of the children of Israel, when they offered as
an heave-offering unto the Lord, I have given to the Levites
to inherit." Num. 18:24. {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 4.4}
3. But the second tithe was retained by the person who
tithed it, and was spent by him in whatever way he might
choose, only in the service of the Lord. {December 4, 1902
ATJ, PUR 4.5}
4. Thus the first tithe was given away by those who tithed
to the Levites. It was called directly "the Lord's" (Lev.
27:30), and was wholly devoted to the service of the Lord,
in the Lord's way, as He should direct, in the ministration
and service of the priests and Levites in the sanctuary and
among the people, while the second tithe, though also
devoted to the Lord's service, was left altogether to the
choice of the one who tithed it as to how he would spend it
or devote it to the cause of God. Accordingly of this tithe it
is written... [Read Deuteronomy 14:22-27] {Dec. 4, 1902
ATJ, PUR 4.6}
5. Every third year there was a special use of the second
tithe, as it is written: [Read Deuteronomy 14:28,29.] Thus
for the two years they were not to eat or consume any of
this tithe within their gates; but must take it, as it was or in
money, up to the place that the Lord had chosen, and there
they were to use it. Then the third year this tithe was to be
laid up within their gates, and there consumed in
hospitality to the stranger, fatherless, widow, and Levite,
who should come and eat and be filled and rejoice. It was
only the carrying out of the principle taught in the giving
and distribution of the manna in the wilderness: "He that
gathered much, had nothing over; and he that gathered
little, had no lack." Through the second tithe the Levite, the
fatherless, the widow, and the poor, who had little or
nothing, shared in the abundance of those to whom God
had given abundance. {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 5.2}
6. Also on this subject of the second tithe, indeed, of the
two tithes, the spirit of prophecy has spoken, and made it
very plain, as follows: "To promote the assembling of the
people for religious service, as well as to provide for the
poor, a second tithe of all the increase was required.
Concerning the first tithe, the Lord had declared, 'I have
given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel.' But in
regard to the second He commanded, 'Thou shalt eat
before the Lord thy God, in the place which He shall
choose to place His name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy
wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of
thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God
always.' This tithe, or its equivalent in money, they were
for two years to bring to the place where the sanctuary was
established. After presenting a thank offering to God, and
a specified portion to the priest, the offerers were to use
the remainder for a religious feast, in which the Levite, the
stranger, the fatherless, and the widow should participate.
Thus provision was made for the thank offerings and feasts
at the yearly festivals, and the people were drawn to the
society of the priests and Levites, that they might receive
instruction and encouragement in the service of God. [PP
530.1] {December 4, 1902 ATJ, PUR 5.4} Chapter 51,
God’s Care for the Poor.
7. Every third year, however, this second tithe was to be
used at home, in entertaining the Levite and the poor, as
Moses said, "That they may eat within thy gates, and be
filled." Deuteronomy 26:12. This tithe would provide a
fund for the uses of charity and hospitality. {PP 530.2}
Chapter 51, God’s Care for the Poor.
There are 13 points but it may be too much to put in the comments.
here are my notes for the first tithe:
First Tithe: Numbers 18:21,24,26
1.
Wholly devoted to the Levites and priest (Lev.
27:30,32)
2.
Genesis 28:22 - Tithe is a tenth
3.
First tithe given away to Levites - the LORD’S tithe
4. The second tithe retained by the person who tithed it,
and spent by the person who retained it , stored up (Bestow
vs. 26, 0f Deut. 14).
1 Cor. 13:3, 2 Kings 12:15, 2 Kings 5:24, Luke 12:17
5. First tithe not for the poor and stranger, fatherless. First
tithe for the Levites ( their payment, an inheritance).
6. Genesis 14:20- Melchizedek as the high Priest is an
example of Jesus Christ who is our high priest. Now we
give to Jesus who is our high Priest before he was the
lamb. Abram gave to the High priest after the Melchizedek
order.
7. New Testament church practice tithe: Matthew 23:23,
Luke 18:12 - before Christ died.
8. Hebrews 5:5: Christ, the example after the order of
Melchizedek. Hebrews 6:19,20( sanctuary
language).Hebrews 7:4, 5 - office of the priesthood.
9. Christ was not from the tribe of levi. Hebrews 7:14,
Christ is priest after the order of Melchizedek
10. Hebrews 7:2 - Melchizedek CALLED the king of
Rightousness and peace: now this pertains to christ. Both
Christ and Melchizedek had no FATHER as written. What
pertains to Melchizedek pertains to Jesus. Jesus did not
NEED the Levitical order or permission because he was of
the Melchizedek order given by God and outlasted the
levitical order.
This study blessed me and I released my burden of confusion in giving tithe to the GC.
Please @sda4ever where can I get this info for review and sharing?
You do realize that the tithe itself was essentially an income tax, right? They tithed up to 30% of their increase year-by-year. Should we tithe up to thirty percent of our income for so many expenses that go with being apart of a corporate church system?
Amen Pastor and Kody. Too many Jesuits within.
Please don’t put Dr.Walter Veith in the same category as you have the others. He’s been banned as much as any other preacher and does not listen to what conference leaders want him to eliminate from his sermons. He needs our prayers, too along with Dr. Conrad Vine and pastor Ron Kelly🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We should send our tithes to the conferences, but Ted Wilson must now resign. We need to move on.
It was Ivor Myers that had 3 ABN air his production of 7/7/07 the day for global latter rain. Their cover song was, "I can only Imagine."
I wrote to Bob Trefsz for his thoughts. He was alarmed that all churches were sucked into this false revival. The song alone brought me chills. All I could do was warn others. Thar got me in big trouble. Since then I'm not surprised at anything he says.
Can you provide a link? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
We have been spoon fed with the official sda ss quarterly for too long. Can you recommend online live sda bible studies?
"He who speaks the truth breaks his own neck" Huss
These types of Religious error issues and Biblical corrections that are brought into the light by the faithful Saints is a testimony unto our God and as a witness to those who are lost. Yes we are truly in the end times. Let's have the patience of the Saints to see this through to the end, until Jesus's return. 🙏🙏🙏💖🎺🎶🎶🎶
Essentially CV has been disfellowshiped without due process being followed.
When I was New to truth. I found my local SDA church. And After I seen on Sabbath Morning service a Pledge to the Flag of the second beast of Revelation. I was Taken back. I easOn Fire and hungry for truth. And thought I found the remnant. AdterI brought my concerns to the Pastor. He dismissed it. I stopped going and my heart hurt. I go to hold bible studies at a rehab with one of the elders now. But never became member. The messages are soft ball. Forbeing at the end of time.
Народ Божий среди народов не числится!Их нет в организаций.
Ellen White said back in her day someone left the door open and the enemy has entered.
Let me go back to the 80's era...when my mother and her sisters and brother could be heard talking about the errors of the Conference, even then. S and crying for the events of that time. Up to the time of their demise they gave counsel to beware. Their counsel to us younger generation was to follow the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy ( E.W. writings of which I thank GOD, my mother passed on to me many volumes)
And in 1980 a significant change to the platform of Truth given by God as the foundation of the SDA Church was CHANGED In officially adopting the trinity into the SDA Church. This is an abomination and your family would have been greatly disappointed. This was brought in by Neal Wilson, father of Ted Wilson. Shame
I just wish the brethren at Village church would stop the already lost fight with their Conference and be courageous enough to start their independence ministry. We have to time to waste with rebellious leaders.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (Matthew 7:16-20)
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. (Matthew 6:21)
They have their backing.
Amen all glory to God
Whenone do not know the truth you will accept what ever you hear God help the newly baptized to become hungry for righteousness and truth
Ok...what is happening to Conrad Vines? I haven't heard
This is off topic …. 😂
Yet is it possible to get a copy/photo of your Daniel/Revelation wall? Pretty please?
The structure of the Conference sets the stage for authoritarian behaviour when the elected conf prez can appoint his officers. This is very very unwise. How did the conference structure came to be???
In my opinion Ron Kelly and Conrad Vine are the wheat in the church.
Why u bring Walter Veith into this? He is reaching the lost. His mission is to reach the lost in the world. He has no time to straighten the mess. God approved His mission. So do not accuse a man whom God has chosen to reach the lost and not in the church. I salute Walter for his service. May God continue to use him for His glory.
Dear Kody, please make sure of the facts before calling Walter Veith and others out.
It might not be what you think or see on the surface.
Let our words be true, but filled with love.
We are to resolve this like Jesus would.
Clash of Minds have just launched a school to proclaim the Three Angels Messages, and I’m sure it’s for no personal gain. Talk to Ps Veith first
People have no fear in accusing a righteous man like Walter. He is the true Adventist doing what God asked our leaders to do.
Amennnnn..........ohhh my GOD ALMITHY....WE PRAY NOW TO YOU OF MY LORD.BECOUSE WE HEARS.WE SEE.AND WE R TO CHOOSE NOW....BECOUSE WE NO.THA YOU LOVED JUSTICE....WE NEED TO ACT.BECOSE IT IS WRITTEN.!!!!
I would like to look up some of these quotes from Ellen White. The problem is that I have all of her writings in the EG White app and when you mentioned page numbers there aren't any in my app app. Could someone let me know perhaps the chapter headings for the some of the things you have quoted from her writings. I agree with what you're saying but like the Bereans I want to check it out for myself. I want to make sure that I'm standing on and following the truth. Having said that I appreciate the pastor's that are crying out and sparing not. May God always be with you and protect you. God bless you
Hi, I understand your struggle. If you type into EGW writings or into Google search, a minimum of 3-4 words in the quote and they should pull up a list or perhaps only one match. I hope this helps ❤ ^_^
Perhaps this discussion should not be on UA-cam. 1Corinthians 6:4 “ therefore , if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church! It is possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? But instead , one brother goes to law against another. -and this in front of unbelievers.”
Jesus our Lord did not waste His time to correct the leaders but save them and others from their sinful life.
Right On, Kody! But don't hold your breath! Revival will NOT happen. The Lord has raised up His Last Generation-Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones, the One and Only spiritual "Body" of Christ, to put the final stamp on this apostasy "IT IS DONE!" Even So, Come Lord Jesus!
Thank you Brother for biblical truth ? We’re would I pay my tithe to . I want to do what Gos wants me too . 🙏
Pray and ask God for guidance. Are there people family or people that needs your help, have not good or place to live? Then they are the ones that need s the money, before it's worth nothing.
Min. 29:15
Testimonies for the Church 5:463. ChS 158.1
These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren, and to excite indignation against them.. ChS 158.1
the enemy within the church: I am reminded in the book of Ester the enemy Hamen was within the gates and God sent Esther which like her uncle Mordecai, where both outside the gates. God used Esther to influence the King and Mordecai was on the outside to receive and give the news. We too will have this and need to be careful what is being said and what information we give. God is a great provider if we will harken to his voice and he will lead us into the truth.
Those are strong words against fervent pastors who have brought many to the truth, so many stones throne in their direction. I think some of them don’t speak up not because of money but because they don’t want others to stumble and want to continue preaching the truth about God’s love and salvation plan.
It is so good to see pastor s kneeling to pray sdas is too holy to kneel dnd pray
We kneel at my church.
It began when the trinity catholic tradition enter the church around 1950 with Froom and others in our church.
Hlad I found your channel
I would like to know your thoughts on the bem document can you please address this thank you
Let us stand by the Word of God, practicing His principles. To many of us are relying on our own understanding instead of turning to the Word of God and the Testimonies for these Last days. We need to break these bonds of pride, as Laodicea is proud and self exalted. Its so disturbing that many pastors are silent on may issues, seeing the evil and downright sin and rebellion against the Straight Testimony by the same ones who employ them❗️why do these men who are supposed to be learned in the school of Christ accept this without protest? The enemy has gained control of the seminaries. So many continue on with their education in these seminaries and so called schools of higher learning, even when they are forced to abandon the pillars of our faith, and accept some new spurious teachings that lead them away from the Testimonies and Spirit of Prophecy. They won't get a degree and a good paying job if they resist or protest. They suppose to know prophecy, and know that the structure of God's church has always fallen, whether it be the structure of Judges, Kings, the Sanhedrin. They are supposed to know that God's faithful and Remant, who will not bow to the mark of the beast - a universally enforced false day of worship - sunday worship, all earthly support will be cutoff from them. So, tell me how can you keep your jobs when that time comes? So much compromising has taken place for so long, to many turning a blind eye, that it's the reason why we are here now.
"What can I say to arouse our people? I tell you not a few ministers who stand before the people to explain the Scriptures are defiled. Their hearts are corrupt, their hands unclean. Yet many are crying, "Peace, peace;" and the workers of iniquity are not alarmed. The Lord's hand is not shortened that He cannot save, nor His ear heavy that He cannot hear; but it is our sins that have separated us from God. The church is corrupt because of her members who defile their bodies and pollute their souls." 5T 78.4
And yet we hear some of the leaders say "we have a bright future", inwhich they are crying "peace and safety":
"If all of those who come together for meetings of edification and prayer could be regarded as true worshipers, then might we hope, though much would still remain to be done for us. But it is in vain to deceive ourselves. Things are far from being what the appearance would indicate. From a distant view much may appear beautiful which, upon close examination, will be found full of deformities. The prevailing spirit of our time is that of infidelity and apostasy-a spirit of pretended illumination because of a knowledge of the truth, but in reality of the blindest presumption. There is a spirit of opposition to the plain word of God and to the testimony of His Spirit. There is a spirit of idolatrous exaltation of mere human reason above the revealed wisdom of God." 5T 79.1
There are men among us in responsible positions who hold that the opinions of a few conceited philosophers, so called, are more to be trusted than the truth of the Bible, or the testimonies of the Holy Spirit. Such a faith as that of Paul, Peter, or John is considered old-fashioned and insufferable at the present day. It is pronounced absurd, mystical, and unworthy of an intelligent mind.
God has shown me that these men are Hazaels to prove a scourge to our people. They are wise above what is written. This unbelief of the very truths of God's word because human judgment cannot comprehend the mysteries of His work is found in every district, in all ranks of society. It is taught in most of our schools and comes into the lessons of the nurseries. Thousands who profess to be Christians give heed to lying spirits. Everywhere the spirit of darkness in the garb of religion will confront you.
God is taking charge of His flock when the unfaithful ministers are derelict of their duty:
"If all that appears to be divine life were such in reality; if all who profess to present the truth to the world were preaching for the truth and not against it, and if they were men of God guided by His Spirit,-then might we see something cheering amid the prevailing moral darkness. But the spirit of antichrist is prevailing to such an extent as never before. Well may we exclaim: "Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men." I know that many think far too favorably of the present time. These ease-loving souls will be engulfed in the general ruin. Yet we do not despair. We have been inclined to think that where there are no faithful ministers there can be no true Christians, but this is not the case. God has promised that where the shepherds are not true He will take charge of the flock Himself. God has never made the flock wholly dependent upon human instrumentalities. But the days of purification of the church are hastening on apace. God will have a people pure and true. In the mighty sifting soon to take place we shall be better able to measure the strength of Israel. The signs reveal that the time is near when the Lord will manifest that His fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor." 5T 79.2 - 5T 79.4
Conference says its okay to have an opinion, as long as you agree with ours.
Or else.
Independent ministers waste the precious time pointing out sin without giving the truth to the perishing. People love it but God is not happy.
What do you mean when you say Conrad Vine was “a part of the organized church”? He was a member in good standing, but he didn’t work for the Conference or the GC.
To me, this is simple; you are wondering after the beast if you do not oppose the leadership the SDA Church.
I agree with you that now is the time to decide, leave or go.
Well done Bill and Cody🙌🏼🙏😊
A NIRVAN Ce que vous soulignez et que j'ignorais est terrifiant. Ou allons nous alors ???
I listen and I smile. The only agony is for those that lifted the church into a part of ruling Diety. I was baptised into Christ and have had no issue with the little people flexing and celebrating their positions within the corporation 😂😂😂😂. I was stood down from head eldership for a reason I cannot explain to this day. My focus then was on my fellow family members and has not changed. The money issue? It’s only big for the corporation, not for Gods ministry. I have no issue as I watch it disintegrate . I don’t talk about where my tithes go to, save to say, I spend it on effective preaching of the gospel. The church already bows to the Jesuit climate change religion. Do I kick about that……no. No one seems to see it. Meantime do your best to work and talk your way to heaven but neither earn one little favour towards salvation
It is WAY past time to join the Procession of the Lord's Last Generation-Remnant Ecclesia of Living Stones that have been crying out to the virgins that are still lingering in the apostate Seventh Day Adventist Church religious system of Matthew 25! "GO YOU OUT TO MEET HIM!"
BEFORE IT'S TO LATE!
REMEMBER, TOMORROW IS TOO LATE! Your friend and brother in Christ.
How dare Ivor M I’m not sure how he spells his last name. But how dare he accuse a servant of GOD a devil?!!! Who made you GOD. When were you gifted with omniscience?
That’s way they contrary to the teachings of the pioneers and sop received and still stuck with the greatest idolatry of all ,the trinity.Due to the fact that WCC issued the statement that none denomination can be called Christian,without having as fundamental doctrine the dogma of trinity,therefore they-churches-are entitled to be supported by government by tax deductions,they-the leaders of sda-decided to stick with the money which ultimately became the worshipping god of the church.
Brad to say but people dnt like to know when they are wrong..and they will get rid of u when u shake the boat. It's a controlling spirit.
when sister white said that thousands would be laid doe to finish the work she wasnt talking about giving conference
New members leave our churches when they attend and see what we preach on you tude and other platforms is not what's been preached in our churches
Sinful men with their hateful words, calling people names, making accusations, and they don’t even realize it no glory for God here on this channel😎
Amen7777
Jesus would be talking about present truth
Another Luther and A. T. Jones moment. History repeating. No new thing under the sun.
Rebles just like Vines
Jesus was a rebel. He blasted the Jewish leaders because He loved them. Elijah was a rebel, so was Jeremiah, John the Baptist. Samuel blasted King Saul for his pride and disobedience. Let’s be fair.Listen to what Ganoune Diop he is destroying the pillars of our faith and pulling us into ecumenism. May God help us.
These are modern day voices. Cry aloud and spare not.
@AudreyMcDonald-u3f Jesus created the church and kept the sane doctrine. and touched no tithes. He wasn't right-wing nor promoted voting for evil conscience masters
Зачем вам разговоры об конференции? Вы же как бы вышли от них.Пусть делают неправду ещё.Конрад не завязан на вести третьего ангела и это его и не только его,большая проблема.
At the time Covid hit, there was a lot of fear and concern about the disease spreading and killing multiple millions of people in the US alone. I’m an SDA and I got vaccinated because I’m diabetic. Also there were many state mandates that everyone had to follow, even churches. Just because conference followed followed the mandates doesn’t mean that they will stand in favor of the Sunday. Making that assumption is foolish.?I’ve only been an SDAvfor a few years and I hate seeing this church embroiled in a political debate over vaccination mandates. As far as these conferences facing the lake of fire, That will be God’s judgment, not ours. 😢
You need to learn the history and understand the purpose of the health message ...
You say these other men, mimistry leaders, are not standing up for right. May be true of some, but i do not agree that all are not speaking up and out.
The Adventist church fell in First World War
The way you talk about the church,and judge people, your standing with God may be in danger!!!!
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These two guys are a bunch of gossipers instigating what trouble and multiplying the troubles that have come from this. If you have time to sit around and make a video and call people mafia dictators and call them a lot of other names that you’ve got time to go out and help the homeless and help people to be saved. You are not wasting your time you are wasting God‘s time and time is short he soon to come, and he will hold all of you gossipers accountable for your waste of time and words instead of using them to help the homeless help the youth help the elderly help the unsaved
What? we accept the mark of the beasts? Where is your truth? You are confused brother.
Walter Veith said, do not leave the church (SDA Conference). We must stay and fight for it!
God bless pastors Conrad Vine and Ron Kelly.
Hlad I found your channel