Sony FX30 VS Lumix S5ii | I Was Impressed…
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- So I’ve never actually used or even watched a video of the fx30 so when Geoff reached out to me to do a quick video on the two, I was all for it! Enjoy!
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00:00 Intro
01:03 Fun Video w/ Both Cameras
01:38 Dynamic Range!
02:34 IBIS!
03:20 Colors!
04:50 Auto-Focus!
06:45 Opinions On Both!
09:55 Final Conclusions! - Фільми й анімація
For the IBIS test, the FX30 is on the RIGHT* not the left! 🤦🏽♂️😂
Also, I did not take account the significant crop that happens in the fx30 at 4k 120, my apologies! Still, it does have it and the s5ii doesn’t but it will not be “consistent across frame rates” like I mentioned in the video.
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Great comparison Anthony!
As the guy who makes the Phantom LUTs I would just say that in regards to the green skin tones, a lot of that would be due to the reflections of the grass in the scene and also potentially the white balance of the particular camera. When I use a colour chart and properly white balance my S5ii and my Sony cameras the skin evens out, it's just that sometimes Sony cameras seem to have a green tint not necessarily in terms of skin tones but the entire image (a green tint bias) - but these things can often be rectified with a white balance adjustment toward magenta if need be for your particular scene.
Every camera sensor is different also (even within the same brand) and every Sony sensor will have their own quirks with WB and Tint (some more neutral/green/magenta/warm/cool) it's just the nature of CMOS sensors.
Thanks!
Insight from the legend himself 😎
What I’ve noticed in some of these comparisons is that the way the sony sensor translates the greens over the Panasonic is also drastically different. A lot more saturated and yellow-ish, not unflattering imo, BUT I prefer the Lumix colors overall. Also, the fx30 specifically is known for having more of a green skew as opposed to others sensors like the fx3 or those in that price bracket.
These things can be easily corrected, ESPECIALLY w/ the phantoms!
Anthony, I just watched Dustin Armstrong's video on how to use the AF on the S5II. I tried his settings and in camera adjustments and the Panasonic was spot on and rock solid. My problems were I had the wrong settings. That makes me suspect you did as well. The settings are very different from the way the Sony Af works. And the Panasonic image and skin tones looked so much better than the Sony. So, the good news is I won't have to use the Sony for my corporate instructional videos. I really owe Dustin big time for setting me straight, and I wanted to correct what I posted earlier. I did have terrible trouble with the Panasonic--but it was all USER ERROR. Nothing wrong whatsoever with the S5II AF. It works perfectly, with no hunting whatsoever.
I will try looking for his video. The issues i mentioned in my other video though are 100% a firmware issue so I’d be surprised if me changing a couple settings would solve that! Especially since I’ve tried all settings pretty much…
Both of these cameras are insane deals - my last camera was a canon 6d mk ii which debuted at $2k 5 years ago and maxed out at 1080p, had all kinds of janky shortcomings like all its AF points were in the middle of the frame, AF-C wasn't good, and of course nothing like eye detect/ibis/focus peaking/etc. Considering what you can get now for $2k is insane. I went with the Lumix s5ii because I'm definitely a stills-first shooter looking to get more into video and just wanted something utlra versatile and Lumix just packs tons of features in their cameras. No doubt the Sony would probably have served me just as well.
It’s really crazy how the market has changed, makes sense though!
Appreciate your input!
Another great vid bro! So what settings did you find best for Autofocus?
Thanks bro!
So I actually use face and eye for talking heads, contrary to popular opinion. For every day I’ll use human. I don’t rely on the camera choosing what I want it to focus on though but Panasonic implemented manual focus override pretty so I’ll help out the AF by overriding it with MF until it locks on.
I usually have my settings more “locked on” and “faster”
great video bro lumix s5ii is on my radar
Thanks bro!
Hi Anthony, thank you for making this comparison video, it helps me a lot. I’ve been struggling with these two choices for weeks. One thing I’m concern about is ‘how well could they perform AF on MOVING HANDS only’.
I shoot piano performance videos (indoor, 4k24/30p mostly), with no face but only hands movement, and I’ve been using MF with GH5 or XT4 for lifetime. And I’m thinking about switching system to Panasonic or Sony recently. Do you have any personal suggestion on this?
I think if you’re not shooting faces you should stick to MF.
But all around the s5ii is 100% a better camera
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Thanks for the prompt reply! So sad that AF can’t make it happen 🥲 I’m shooting myself on my own and sometimes MF can really go wrong and I can only discover it after, which is a little inconvenience. And one thing also confused me is that S5ii is a hybrid camera while FX30 is specifically made for video, and for me I don’t do any photography at all. So I’m still thinking about does it worth that price for me to buy S5ii.
They are both hybrid cameras. That’s just marketing junk.
Actually the s5ii is more of a video camera than the fx30
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Haha, got it. thanks for the advice!
The FX30 is really awesome! The panasonic too. Thanks.
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I went to Yodobashi Camera Umeda. I asked a salesman to show me around to hybrid cameras. They showed me the Sony a7-4 and Sony FX30, first. Then I asked to see the Panasonic GH models. They never said a word about s5ii. They had a display at the head of the isle with a sample camera! Didn’t mention it until I went back and ASKED about it. Yes, it wasn’t in stock as it was a couple weeks before release.
The s5ii is definitely a beast!
Good comparision. Another thing is choice and cost of lenses. The Sony being an APSC sensor, the lenses are cheaper. Also, you get a number of focal lengths in primes and zooms.
Very true!
Full frame EF lenses can be had at a very cheap price though and are future proof instead of having to sell your APSC lenses if you decide to get a full frame camera later down the line!
Regardless, still saves a little money getting apsc lenses.
A little? Try 1/3 the cost AND you get autofocus while you'd lose that by going with an ef lens. I've owned an s1 and I fell into the full frame trap when I didn't need it as every lens cost me well over $1000. You will spend 3x more on the same camera and lenses setup on the s52 vs fx30. For the vast majority of people shooting talking head, product shots,vlogging and travel, and documentary type footage the autofocus performance, smaller lenses and light weight reign supreme. Even for filmmaking having a wider range of lenses beats out a better sensor any day if the week.
I prefer the Lumix
Same!
Really nice job on this one.
Thanks Mark!
Not sure what surprised you? You comment that “you’re biased” towards the camera you bought. It’s not so much a “versus” video as an affirmation for your purchase.
Surprised by how well the fx30 held up. Never used it before!
I still think the fx30 is an INCREDIBLE buy!
I have 3 S5ii and it is a better Camera, I would say the FX30 will hold up but the A7IV is probably a better comparison once you stretch the capabilities of the S5ii, the FX30 wasn’t meant to compete here, the Audiences is quite different.
@@moneyboys2010 the fact that the price is so close and they are mirrorless options created for professional video work says that they actually do compare 😅
Whether one beats out the other isn’t a fact of whether they should be compared to one another or not 🙂
Not sure who would want to buy the fx30 at this point. Many other options out there that are a better bang for buck (the S5ii being one of them).
@@Izzys_Autos native lens selection is one huge difference between the two
And yes, I have all the firmware updated, that made the AF and the lenses better.
Hey Anthony, I want to do travel content and vlogging mostly. You said it has a crop at 4k 60. How bad is the crop if you threw a 16mm on it. Would it be possible to do some vlog footage testing on the s5ii?
You wouldn’t really be vlogging at 4k 60. The only thing you’d really need 4K 60 is for b-roll and that’s completely fine if you have a crop.
The crop is 1.5x
My takeaway is that you really like your camera, which is always great! But I would still like to know about the lens selection, being a newbie I'd prefer having smaller lenses if possible. Also the autofocus not being an important difference is a hard sell, especially when one intends to film animals or sports (which is what I'm mostly looking to do).
I do really like my camera and I recommend the s5ii over the fx30 to anybody really.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz 😂 okay thank you
@@reyjes also, you mentioned wanting to film animals and sports and wanting to have your lens be small… those two do not really pair together!
Decent long telephoto lenses will always be large.
I recommend most beginner to get a 24-70. The best versatile lens you could own!
I sold an a7iv to get the s5ii. The only time I (kind of) regret it is when shooting stills. Everything else, I like the s5ii better. I also shoot with a gh6. When light is good (meaning I can stay around the base 2000 iso in vlog), I much prefer the gh6 video. S5ii blows the gh6 away for low light and stills though. It's a great combination to cover most scenarios. GH6 provides full sensor readout 4k 120p, which I use quite a bit for sports.
Nice!
What do you like more about the a7IV when it comes to stills besides the MP count?
I like the noise pattern a bit more on the a7iv. I'm not big on applying a lot of NR processing, so a nicer looking grain is preferable. S5II just seems a tad more splotchy. Not bad by any means.
Why not just get fx3? I think it's basicly a combination of the two. But 12mp may be a deal breaker and shutter angle
@@davidvictory9764 hmm, price tag ? 2500euro vs 5000euro
@@maciejmaksym2412 I was would of responded with that I was talking about getting fx3 to replace the gh6 and s5mk2 combined, idk if you read the original post. But I think my response now is "zve10
Thsnk you for this video, i just bought an a74.. and i was pissed because the ibs is better on the lumix and i love lumix.. but the focus is more important to me
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which focal length did you tested with ibis on s5ii? was focal length wider than 20mm? I wondering jello effects on edge areas are fixed in latest firmware.
It was shot at 35mm!
The jello effects aren’t too big of a deal. The only reason they are there is because the ibis is so strong and honestly they barely show up unless your waving your camera around like crazy
Canons ibis is worse and has worse “jello” effect.
I am still deciding between the two. I shoot a lot of slow motion. You forgot about the gyro stabilisation on FX30, after which the footage looks as good as shot on a gimbal which crushes the S5II's ibis, also the S5II has an apsc crop on 60fps and no 120 fps. Which camera has a sharper 1080 p 120 fps? I have heard the the autofocus on S5II does not work on 120 & 180 fps modes.
I didn’t mention the gyro because that’s a VERY non efficient workflow. You’re spending an extra hour or 2 per project stabilizing your footage and it crops in ALOT so you composition could be completely ruined.
Also when it comes to 120 idk because I don’t ever really shoot in 120.
does the lumix s5ii have variable shutter? also what do u think abt the absence of continuous photos in fx30 during a run n gun situation where u also need to shoot some photos along with ur videos. And also have u faced any difficulty while shooting without a viewfinder? { 1.Below bright sunlight, 2. camera stability}
Yes and tbh idk a lot about the fx30 beside what I’ve shared in this video but I have to say, the concern you are having shouldn’t be!
Both cameras are a REALLY good value for money!
Wish u had listed the lenses which u used for the comparison in your description. The quick verbal rundown at the start sounded like the Sigma 18-35mm must be on the FX30 (apsc lens) and the Sigma 24-70mm (full frame) on the Lumix s5ii?
Is that correct? Would have liked to have had some low light--night-shots in Florida in your tests. Wonder if either one of them could pick up fire-flies buzzing around at nightime. When I was a kid, my folks took a long trip around the States which included lots of Southrn States. I was amazed at the fire-flies. Never seen them before. Have u ever tried to film them with either of these cameras, the Sony FX30 and/or the Lumix s5ii? If not, would be great if u'd give it a try & let us see the results! 😎🤢
They both would be able to pick up fireflies!
I’ve never personally tried but they shouldn’t really have any issues!
There is an XLR adapter that slots into the S5 hot shoe that gives you great in camera audio similar to the FX 30 handle (without the awkward handle) it’s called the DMW XLR1.
I actually just ordered it!
Although I do appreciate the handle! I just wish the fx3/30 handle was metal and not plastic
Honestly I love both cameras I been working on the Sony fx30 and swore by it but I just personally think you get more from the Panasonic that’s why I decided to buy that over the sony
100% agree
So another question. After a quick browse of ReachFilms site, it looks like the Sigma 18-35 lens might have been a Cannon mount lens paired up with a Metabones Speed Booster on the Sony FX30 camera. If so, please how and why u used such a complicated setup. Why did u not use the relative new Sigma 18-50 f2.8 on the FX30 for the comparison tests? 😎😎
Haha! I don’t own every sigma lens 🤷🏽♂️
If we had it, we would have used it!
Good comparison since these cameras are so close in price. I recently debated which one to get and went with the Lumix S5 II, it's awesome. I ended up sending it back after two weeks though and have pre-ordered the S5 II X since there's so many more benefits for only $200 more. I just wish it was out already!
I might pick up the x as well!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz That's a great idea, if I had the funds I would have kept the ii plus the X.
The price is the only thing they have in common. There is a reason everyone else compares the S5 II to the A7R IV. The FX30 is a cinema camera and is nothing alike with the S5 II.
@@canwefixit8129 I thought about getting the Sony a7 IV but the over heating scared me away. For many of us it's a big investment so they're all related, it comes down to what gives us the best quality for every dollar we will spend. For me, the Lumix S5 Ii just makes more sense.
@@UltratecJS The Lumix S5 II is a great camera and for the mid/pro consumer thats what its made for. There is a reason they compare it to the A7R IV, Canon R6, Fuji XT5 etc is because those are actually cameras in competition with that model as far as features, sensor size, specs and pricing goes. Comparing the Lumix S5 II to a FX30 is comparing a full frame mirrorless camera to a APS-C cinema camera thats designed to be built onto a rig with a external monitor and used to shoot movies. The FX30 is not a camera you slap a strap on and toss it around your neck and go shoot a vlog or take photos with lol. Its a dumb comparison of two completely different cameras in different classes designed for completely different purposes ad targeted to completely different people. Anyone whos considering a Lumix S5 II and that style of camera shouldn't be considering a FX30 is all im saying. The only reason i could possibly see why they compared the two in this video is they just happened to have a S5 II and a FX30 and nothing else, said what the hell lets make a video?
The no jitters was the KO factor for me to change (I would not use a gimbal, thanks). No 4k120p is a bother. BTW for really stable footage I still grab the olympus, but no dynamic range and shitty codec.
The s5ii’s ibis was a huge deciding factor for me as well!
Good info! Doesn't the fx30 have real time luts as well?
Thanks!
Unfortunately, It does not.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz It does. You can embed luts that are baked onto the data in real time, just not in S-log or Cine EI. Basically, it becomes a picture profile. I have used it on my FX30 and this is direct from the manual "Embed LUT File: Sets whether to embed LUT files in recorded data. (On / Off)" Also, the video here shows how to install, select the lut for display, and then also to embed it to real-time recording (@5:15) ua-cam.com/video/ZhpEAWYr7Ho/v-deo.html&ab_channel=FamauMedia. By the way good video, I found it helpful.
That’s not what real time LUTs is and it also doesn’t do it with pictures
@@AnthonyRodriguezz So just to clarify, embedding a lut so that footage shot on the fx30 has it applied automatically so that when i download it to my computer it is ready to go with the lut on it, is not a real-time lut? I also never mentioned pictures lol
I did though. The real time LUT feature for pictures is the main draw and is what I made a whole video about on my channel.
GOOD! Eu comprei a S5, nao tenho dinheiro para a s5ii, mas em breve vou comprar.
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You've been quite a bit biased about the lumix in this video, dude. You didn't know much about the sony and its functions. Both cameras are great but this video is not a great review, the autofocus section shows the two cameras blurry, what happened, you couldn't get focus on both of these amazing cameras? Maybe it's the operator not the gear, sorry for the negative review, but it seems lousy.
Definitely nothing in depth! Never said it was.
And yes I am a bit biased towards the s5ii and I mentioned that in the video, not trying to hide that. I prefer the s5ii as it’s literally a better camera in almost every aspect. I did give credit where credit was due towards the Sony but the fact that the s5ii is an overall better choice is not my problem
Nothing against negative feedback, I actually welcome it! But at least have the criticism make sense for what it is. The blurry part you’re talking about was the dynamic range part and the rest was literally the camera not doing well in that area, hence the name AUTO in autofocus.
Also, it’s hard to know all there is to know about a camera when I used it for maybe 2 hours total. I mention that at the end of the video when I shout out Geoff from reachfilms who will be giving a review from an experienced fx30 user unlike myself!
i liked the review
Great video but I’m curious as to why s5ii gets the point for video lut assist? Not only can you apply lut assist but you can also bake in your custom luts to slog footage on the fx30. Did I miss something?
It’s not just video LUT assist. The fx30, you can’t record with that LUT baked in your footage as well as you definitely can’t do it for photos which is such a neat feature!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Okay, that’s where I was confused because it can be done in video mode but for sure not in photo mode. I would make a video about it but this creator already did. ua-cam.com/users/shortsYR7wINQDVVY?feature=share. That open gate seriously has me looking at trading my fx30 for s5ii. Is the S5ii AF still useable for run and gun?
@@S.Creations1 the AF is More than usable, yes
@@AnthonyRodriguezz Sweet, thank you for making the comparison.
FX30 has additional 1.5x crop on top of an already 1.5x crop in 4k120p. You should have make more reasearch about that to not confuse people :)
I pinned that piece of info in the comments section 👌🏼
The Sony A74 and Panasonic S5 Mark ii are on my shopping list
S5ii wins imo
Why no one mentions the factor budget/lens selection. For some of us is VERY important 😂😂. Are there good budget options for S5ii as they are for fx30?
Great video though 🤗👌🏼👌🏼
I mean… getting full frame lenses for the mirrorless market is pretty standard. Maybe that’s why!
They also have budget full frame options
The FX30 has a heavy crop in 4k120p though. (Around 1.6x, changing the crop factor to 2.3)
Yup, I pinned that correction to the comments shortly after posting the video!
@@AnthonyRodriguezzsorry, I missed it😅
Mind explaining how 1.6x turns to 2.3?
@@samuelleanos 1.55 (4k120 crop) multiplied by 1.5 (apsc full sensor) is 2.32. So you'd get significantly better looking 4k 120p from something like the GH6, which oversamples from the full sensor 5.7k.
S5 II is photography first.. the S5 X releasing later this year is video first. It will resolve issues with video that you've mentioned here. I've enjoyed viewing
Glad you liked the video! Unfortunately, the statement you made is a little off.
Both the s5ii and s5iix are video centered cameras and the only difference with the x is a couple of codecs, external recording and live streaming capabilities.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz thanks for correcting S5iix and yes I enjoyed viewing your video. The S5iix won’t address the 60 fps issue.. it’s been something mentioned by videographers as well as yourself to Lumix. Allegedly that and a few other things on the video side is to be addressed with the S5iix in firmware releases.:
Is the autofocus on Panasonic s5ii still a problem? I’m debating between the two as well…
It kind of is but I’d 100% recommend the s5ii over the fx30
@@AnthonyRodriguezz I feel similarly, but with how cheap Sony APS-C lenses are do you think it might make sense to stick with Sony (especially since I'll mostly be using it for a-roll on static shots)?
I’d still say the s5ii
there is an additional XLR handle for Lumix, shouldn't be handled but for professional connection is fine
I use it!
The S5ii does have an XLR accessory, it works with any Pro Lumix camera.
I bought it recently!
Great piece of kit! A bit overpriced for what it is. But great nonetheless
@@AnthonyRodriguezz The Sony version costs $200 more, but it includes a mini-shotgun mic.
I have no idea what stops me from getting a Sony even though my favorite film maker uses and recommends them
They’re great!
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4k120 is actually a 2.1 crop. Worst than gh6 at 1.9x crop :) also the quality is not the same like fx3 4k 120. Also in what situation do you find yourself shooting 120? I never find myself using beyond 60p on fx3 o.O
I mean… I don’t but somebody else might! 🤷🏽♂️
Don't agree the XLR handle for Sony is flimsy. It seems very sturdy and well made in my opinion, and the XLR audio is excellent--very clear and clean. (As a professional musician I'm really picky about sound).
It’s very flimsy. Not only have I owned it but if you on any Sony fb group for the fx/fx30 you will see an incredible amount of peoples handle breaking.
You can’t rig anything heavy to it unfortunately
@@AnthonyRodriguezz It's for the XLR feature. I wouldn't think of rigging the camera up and risk damaging that feature. It means nothing to me, regardless, since I find rigging a camera to create more problems and complications than they solve. Besides I don't see this camera as a run and gun style camera. That is where the S5II excels.
The question one should ask is what kind of sd card is being used in the FX30 the sd card determines the quality
Lol what? The SD card does not determine the quality 😅 maybe the codec but even then the difference between the codecs for a v60 and v90 sd card are so minimal
I have said it before, no one seems to crave Sony color.
For me personally, it’s not too much of a hassle as I grade all my footage anyways but yeah, I hear that a lot!
* The Sony is out of focus at 1:52 for the whole time, both face an body
that means the S5ii has better AF in low light.
* The Panasonic is in focus, except when the dog gets too close to the camera's minimum lens distance.
Unfortunately that was not an AF test and both cameras were actually in MF not AF. Had nothing to do with the lowlight AF capabilities.
Regarding the dog AF shot, I’m not too sure what happened there but the AF on the fx30 is definitely better
@@AnthonyRodriguezz ok thanks
I'm still in a dilemma now whether to go for fx30 or s5ii. Currently using Panasonic g85 and its a beast when i shoot wedding videos especially when I shoot solo. the Panasonic stabilization is a must for me however i kinda prefer sony color looks and variety of their third party lenses but just cant with Sony's amateur stabilization, i dont want the Hussle to use catalyst browse software for each 100 clips. I have never used a vlog pp before on Panasonic because g85 has none of the log profiles not sure if it is similar to sony S log so I can use a variety of luts. And in my country most videographers use sony due to 2nd hand resale value and easy to get 2nd shoot job just in case. Kinda hard to find people using Panasonic but still I cant get away how good Panasonic IBIS.
The S5ii is superior in every way imo
I have a gh5, do u think I'll see a big difference upgrading to s5 2 or fx30? Autofocus aside. How much better is lowlight on s5 2 compared to the other 2?
Never used a gh5 but it’ll definitely a big upgrade moving to an s5ii even if we aren’t considering the AF at all.
Regarding lowlight, I have no idea 😂🤷🏽♂️ I do know that the lowlight on the s5ii is actually pretty good!
I can shoot at 10,000 iso and still get pretty usable footage. 12,800 even! I would never be in situations where I personally would need that though.
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I feel like there are alot of reasons comparing a full frame vs aps c camera is stupid... let alone both cameras have trade offs and by nature of that making them better or worse at certain fields of work.... personally i like what the fx30 is doing and when you can get power zooms and really good primes under $1k all ith optical stab i think the fx30 is way better value especially when using accessories like audio top handle and atamos recorder
Not sure if I agree with this statement on any front.
They are in the same price bracket and many people will be looking at both of these cameras when making a purchasing decision. Whether the s5ii completely blows the fx30 out of the water or not does not change the fact that they are only 200$ apart.
Also having less dynamic range, worse ibis, smaller sensor size, arguably less appealing colors SOOC for 200$ less doesn’t seem like a better value to me at all. BUT if I were in the Sony ecosystem already and didn’t want to switch, then yes the fx30 is still an incredible value in and of itself!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz ill say this much like if I wasnt looking at an overall cost and Panasonic have always done video amazingly, nor would I even think the sony would look good just by applying a lut... one issue ive always found with sony is theirs always a strange colour thing where I always had to retune the picture profiles settings and set the up to like slog just to recalibrate in divinci but once you have it sorta done once its alot easier to do with a simple custom lut i still feel its unfair comparison really, especially in my country body alone the fx30 is $2499 where the s5ii is going upwards $2999 at that extra price you could buy a decent lens to go with the camera or a highway robbery memory card.... look your points are valid and more so i just feel comparing full frames to aps-c always is tricky i use apsc cameras for very specific types of shots vs a full frame in video this is more skewed though but ive always found sensor size impacts the overall image in various ways regardless
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He edited his reply from what he wrote originally. He was mentioning dynamic range and all of that 👍🏼
Unfortunately IBIS & ActiveStab works differently with Sony native lenses, which are more expensive but doesn't jitter at all
I haven’t done that kind of testing and not sure how that would make a difference tbh BUT the IBIS in the s5ii still demolishes the fx30.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz try it, you will have to see it with your own eyes. That's the reason I'm switching from Sigma to Sony lenses for my FX30.
@@AnthonyRodriguezz this and Breathing Compensation are the only optionss to work well with Sony body and Sony lenses. Thats their strategy to limit third party lenses and not to prohibit their usage as Canon does.
@@sasqwatch35mm Panasonic does the same thing in their lenses. ( not sure if any of the Leica or Sigma lenses feature low breathing )
Anthony, thank you for these tests. I actually own both these cameras and I think your test confirm everything I have also found. The AF of the S5II can't really approximate the Sony AF--which is amazing. And the XLR handle of the Sony produces excellent, clean audio with little fuss. It's better than the XLR unit for Panasonic.
For out and about hand held shooting the Panasonic is superior. The open gate 6k, IBIS, and all the video assist features, and the C4k make is truly superior for most hand held shooting. Colors are better and more natural, but for talking head shooting and product shots the S5II can touch the Sony, and that is what I need most. There the Sony is far superior and the AF of the S5II is, sad to say, an epic fail, and cannot be trusted.
so, my findings as an owner of both cameras, closely parallels your own.I really don't think the green in the Sony is a problem, besides there are.a lot of ways to correct it, both in camera and in post.
Thanks again for a very good and very fair review.
you need the DMW-XLR1 Dual XLR-adaptor
I actually just ordered it!
Wellll I'm conflicted. S52 wins on paper but the Sony just looks much more "cinematic". Could be the lens differences in the tests but in terms of final image the Sony wins for me if based on the footage alone. I have an S52.
Oof… I couldn’t disagree more!
The Sony image is not bad by any means but the s5ii is just much easier to create a much less digital looking image. Key word easier!
Fx30 depth of field was nice but LUMIX is better overall
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Just had to toss shade at canon again lol
Canon?!
Oh… the c70 comment 🤣
Luckily Panasonic improved it's autofocus. No matter how good in all other ways if the focusing is a big problem the camera is useless for movement video...
If you’re a solo operator, I completely agree with you!
Should ne against the s1h in my opinion to make a correct fight. Btw 19:00 made me rotfl
That’s just a different comparison in general though! Also, 19:00???
@@AnthonyRodriguezz oh sorry wanted to write 00:19 your funny assistant
@@cloud84strife 😭 He’s actually a buddy of mine and has his own channel! @Reachfilms
Im saving up for the R6ii. But my heart says Lumix S5ii
I’d definitely get the s5ii.
Way better image overall
@@AnthonyRodriguezz thank you so much 🙏👍👍 I will follow your advice
Actually the 4K 120p on the fx30 is a pixel to pixel readout so it has an heavy crop so not s35, but all the way to 60p it it is s35
Oh nice! What’s the crop?
At least it has 4K 120, right?!
@@AnthonyRodriguezz the crop is arround 2,5
Anyone having Experience with sigma lens on Lumix S5?on autofocus side
It’s great! For the s5 or s5ii?
If you are shooting just a talking head shot, why use auto-focus? Why not just lock the focus for the shot?
Because I don’t have a focus puller and I move a lot 🤓
If your looking for a camera and video is you main focus go LUMIX.
I think both are great but yeah the s5ii does edge out the fx30 a bit
@@AnthonyRodriguezz everything is so good these days but features and that damn IS Lumix offers is unreal
With a Lumix lens the S5II AF performs much better. Much closer to Sony.
It’s not really the lens that’s the issue
Sony fx30 vs lumix s5ii ?
Uhhh… that’s what this whole video is about 😂
@@AnthonyRodriguezz please answer me just with one word ? 😅😊
So you want me to answer your question with one word when I spent a whole week going in depth on the two options in a video?
Sorry… not only is that not happening but it’s also not possible. There’s no “winner” here
Hello, Anthony. Are you interested in cooperating with VICSEED car phone holder?😉
Can’t beat s-cinetone on the Sony….
Ehh… you can actually
How bias was this comparison? Wow! All of you 'PRO videographers' somehow forget, and perhaps leave this most important fact about the SONY cameras in a defferent dimension, that the SONY brand of Cameras now come with S-Cinetone, and not to mention, again, that the SONY brand of Cameras are the ONLY BRAND of Pro Cameras that ALLOW the user to CUSTOM-DIAL their colors in-camera, individually, whereas OTHER BRANDS won't let you come anywhere close. I own a Panasonic GH5, a Canon T-5i and a Sony a6600. The only one I'm keeping is the Sony.
… what? 😂
I shot with Sony for years and never used S-cinetone as I’m always grading each project individually… that is 100% not the most important fact, not even close 🤦🏽♂️
Also, regarding “dialing in custom colors”, I’m assuming you mean custom white balance. That includes yellow, blue, magenta & green and everything in between and almost every camera can do that… Sony doesn’t have a special sediment on customizing color. In fact, Sony for the longest time had terrible colors!
While I do think Sony cameras are incredible value and can be used as solid tools for filmmaking, they are not the cream of the crop
@Anthony Rodriguez Gamma, Black Gamma Level, knee, Color Mode, Color Level, Color Phase, Color Depth, WB Shift, Slope, R,G,B,C,M,Y... some of which others do not allow. Let me know if I have any of these wrong.
Fiddly AF is not what I want at the speed I have to work at, being able to just touch a screen and track is Ideal for me. So its a Sony camera for me (im a Nikon shooter 😆)
My current want list is: Sony A7R5 and the Tamron 20 - 40.
The touch tracking in the Sony cameras is definitely useful and if I relied on AF more than I do, It’d be more of a letdown that Panasonics AF doesn’t function as good in that area
@@AnthonyRodriguezz thanks - my work is quite fast and often not planned - the more automation I can get the better - I think someone said the less mental calories I have to chew up. 😆👍
Sony AF is amazing but not perfect. I sold my a7IV for the S5II and an super happy, in the Lumix I would say I have to be a bit more intentional with AF mode, but is very reliable.
I would just say that the superior IBIS in the S5II, is producing better content for me than the better AF I had with the Sony.
@@9adriano21 appreciate the insight! 💪🏼
@@AnthonyRodriguezz whenever i touch the screen on my sony it says tracking cancelled, maybe I'm on the wrong AF setting
Bro, this is not apple to apple!
Because there’s a 200$ difference and they are aiming to be budget mirrorless video centric cameras?
Lumix is way better in the cinematic feel.. its less videoee to me
I go back and forth. Sometimes I think the s5ii looks really digital, I still love it though!
To the trained eye… Panasonic all day
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starting the video drop it, FX30 is all the time unfocused, so you can't appreciate your comparative. .
Not sure I understand this comment 🤷🏽♂️
@@AnthonyRodriguezz you're out of focus, the dog is out of focus, what you don't understand?
and that's just the FX30, why?
@@jesustrias8437 the fx30 was in autofocus, idk what to tell you bud 🤷🏽♂️
The “dynamic range” test im not too sure, most likely user error but that is completely unrelated to dynamic range.
The dog autofocus one is literally just the actual camera and case scenario where it did not perform well
Panasonic is a such a ugly camera with no good lenses. Like Nikon i will never may have a good work with that. Sony is so so so much better than you are showing it. That out of focus Sony samples that you made hahahaa so lame dude.
🤣 what even is this comment?
When you watch videos like this you would think the fx30 is horrible but when you actually own the fx30 it seems godly 🫢
It’s a great camera! Just doesn’t hold up to the s5ii really
@@AnthonyRodriguezz it’s a preference with cameras because all of them are capable