T8 Ranked Ships - Tier List 2023

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Another huge video featuring ALL the T8 ships with some exceptions (the broken class).
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  • @Flamuu
    @Flamuu  Рік тому +32

    Big thanks to Midori for making the massive template. If someone wants to add timestamps I'll add them to the video!
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    • @Mithril_Antimarr
      @Mithril_Antimarr Рік тому

      Don't understand the Zieten call personally, 1.7 sigma 3x2 main guns v Bismark 1.8 sigma 4x2 main guns, yes Zieten has torps but they are so slow that if you get hit there is probably something wrong with you... Zieten's 32mm deck makes it an easy target for carriers especially with the limited dcp charges. Respectfully suggest Bismark belongs in B instead of Zieten imo.

    • @simonospinazuluaga5829
      @simonospinazuluaga5829 7 місяців тому

      Anyone know if this is still valid ? What are the best top 5 today ?

  • @7heSlime
    @7heSlime Рік тому +79

    Gotta say I did extremely well with Warspite in bronze and North Carolina in silver because so many players just don't respect their gunpower anymore.

    • @thepiratemongoose8965
      @thepiratemongoose8965 Рік тому +14

      I have fond memories of my NC devstriking whales in their Massas because they didn't respect my firepower. "I got yer pay to win right here, bitch"

    • @TheGrandexeno
      @TheGrandexeno Рік тому +2

      Tbh I hate NC to the bone. No armor and sperg guns... Nope.

    • @anubhavdassarma7230
      @anubhavdassarma7230 Рік тому +2

      @@TheGrandexeno It has armor if you forget the third turret exists

    • @TheGrandexeno
      @TheGrandexeno Рік тому

      @@anubhavdassarma7230 nah. I mean, if you play it like a soviet, sure, nose in. Or kite veeeery tightly. So, all in all, frustrating because the guns are retarded.

  • @redstonebuilder7522
    @redstonebuilder7522 Рік тому +290

    Edit: Time stamps complete
    Akizuki 0:19
    Amagi 1:03
    Kii 1:56
    CVs being CVs 3:57
    Benson 5:13
    Kidd 5:38
    Montpelier 6:30
    Cleveland 6:49
    Anchorage 7:43
    Baltimore 8:21
    Yukikaze 9:55
    Congress 11:43
    Rochester 13:31
    San Diego 14:44
    Wichita 16:37
    Alabama 17:32
    Constellation 17:45
    Kansas 19:27
    Massachusetts 19:46
    North Carolina 19:54
    Asashio 20:15
    Kiev 21:10
    Ognevoi mention 21:44 (actual ranking 22:37
    Chapayev 24:30
    Kutuzov 25:21
    Ochakov 25:42
    P. Bagatron 26:58
    Tallinn 28:27
    Harekaze 30:13
    Borodino 33:14
    Lenin 34:58
    Vladivostok 35:04
    G.J. Maerker 36:57
    Z-23 37:59
    Z-35 39:06
    Hipper 41:18
    Mainz 41:41
    Harekaze II 43:34
    Prinz Eugen 45:02
    Anhalt 46:36
    Bismarck 47:50
    Brandenburg 48:09
    Odin 49:50
    Tirpitz 50:48
    Zeiten 50:52
    Cossack 51:51
    Massachusetts vs. Alabama 53:05
    Kagero 55:21
    Lightning 56:35
    Albemarle 58:12
    Belfast’43 58:24
    Cheshire 1:00:00 🎉
    Hampshire 1:01:09
    Tiger 59 1:01:42
    Edinburgh 1:01:47
    Hawke 1:02:55
    Monarch 1:03:40
    Vanguard 1:03:58
    Atago 1:05:49
    Le Fantasque & Le Terrible 1:06:00
    Bayard 1:07:46
    Charles Martel 1:09:06
    Cherbourg 1:09:11
    Champagne 1:09:36
    Flandre 1:09:41
    Gascogne 1:10:53
    Mogami 1:11:38
    Richelieu 1:11:58
    V. Cuniberti 1:12:02
    Amalfi 1:12:06
    Littorio & V. Veneto 1:12:32
    Roma 1:13:03
    Fenyang 1:14:00
    Hsenyang 1:18:12
    Loyang 1:19:34
    Shimanto 1:24:24
    Siliwangi 1:24:31
    Harbin 1:25:31
    Hirian 1:26:42
    Wukong 1:26:49
    Orkan 1:26:52
    Oland 1:28:42
    De 7 Provincien 1:30:34
    Haarlem 1:31:14
    Atlantico 1:31:37
    Tone 1:31:48
    Ignis Purgatio 1:31:55

  • @mightychicken7774
    @mightychicken7774 Рік тому +30

    I think that these rankings you do are possibly one of my favorite videos you make. Hearing your opinions here is quite valuable and interesting! - Although I do not play this game anymore. I miss this game, but I just don't wish to put myself through the current meta's torture....

  • @bazferp
    @bazferp Рік тому +25

    Congress is horrible. You land 20% of your shots if you're lucky and spend the entire game on fire.

    • @jfloop77
      @jfloop77 20 днів тому +1

      Or waiting to reload as if you were a BB.

  • @ussxrequin
    @ussxrequin Рік тому

    This was an entertaining video to listen to, Flamu. Nice background sound while I do other things. I agree with a bunch of these. Others, I just don't know about since I quit after commander rework. Thank you for the content!

  • @Midori900
    @Midori900 Рік тому +3

    These tier lists is the only use most of my ships see these days

  • @bravalloy
    @bravalloy Рік тому +1

    Love Balti, all tech tree US heavy cruisers but I must admit that I love more to laugh when people (actually, streamers) talk them down.

  • @yamato-zi7yk
    @yamato-zi7yk 5 місяців тому

    I'm not sure how, but I have gotten citadel in the Mass in ranked more than once, possibly plunging fire or something.

  • @pravda1182
    @pravda1182 Рік тому +2

    should add
    + or - to the list, A- A+, B- etc.

  • @ViktorShahter
    @ViktorShahter Рік тому +13

    I hope some hero will make timecodes.

  • @thomasbernecky2078
    @thomasbernecky2078 Рік тому

    Jingles has an older video with Aetam playing his Harekaze with the 100mm guns you should watch to see how to play this bote?

  • @Apollyon-er4ut
    @Apollyon-er4ut Рік тому

    Last time we had T8 clan battles, Chapy for CA and Mass for BB did well for me, playing nothing else.

  • @JohnDiabol
    @JohnDiabol Рік тому

    I'd out Ignis Purgatio and Ragnarok a bit above Amagi since they have improved sigma at the expense of a couple seconds longer reload.

  • @supertoasting1011
    @supertoasting1011 Рік тому +1

    It hurt to see Roma in C but I agree she is better suited for having fun in randoms. For ranked you really want consistent guns

    • @orangedream267
      @orangedream267 Рік тому +1

      Well... Roma's guns are consistent... just not the consistency you want.

    • @supertoasting1011
      @supertoasting1011 Рік тому +1

      @@orangedream267 thats a way to put it. but damn the AP hits like a dump truck when Mussolini blesses your salvo

  • @jakubslavik5595
    @jakubslavik5595 Рік тому

    Yeah Odin is quite good in a smaller scale, even in Airship escort against tier 10s it can work.

  • @ShootinStarskies
    @ShootinStarskies Рік тому

    Le Terrible for me, it feels unstoppable

  • @bobochungi1541
    @bobochungi1541 Рік тому

    I hated Kansas only reason I use it is because I want Vermont

  • @GandalfTehGray
    @GandalfTehGray Рік тому

    Does anyone else pray that he will learn to use the filters (at least Nation or ship type) rather than scroll though 100 ships :P

  • @royalcinnamon
    @royalcinnamon 11 місяців тому

    I just got Atago for free, thanks amazon :D

  • @Bane_Diesel
    @Bane_Diesel Рік тому

    How long ago was this streamed?

  • @javierlorenzoibanez516
    @javierlorenzoibanez516 Місяць тому

    Interesting that Flamu usually doesnt analize hispanic ships. Spanish or Latinoamerican. It looks like this nations dont exist for him. May be in a future. If so, thank you in advance.

  • @tominmtnvw
    @tominmtnvw Рік тому

    Good video if you don’t mind the disgusting language. Easy way to avoid that, however, just fast forward to the final screen

    • @micklane7306
      @micklane7306 8 місяців тому

      You sound or don't watch the guy known for his abrasive personality. You e got all the youtube to choose from but you came here.

  • @DaxRaider
    @DaxRaider Рік тому

    isnt rochester like wochester that u speak it ruster

  • @theherbologist4973
    @theherbologist4973 11 місяців тому

    Tirpitz "C"! really? 😅

  • @sardaukerlegion
    @sardaukerlegion Рік тому

    Excuse me,
    why did you jump from T6 to T8? What about T7?

    • @thepiratemongoose8965
      @thepiratemongoose8965 Рік тому +3

      He's only doing the tiers that are being played in this season of ranked battles

    • @sardaukerlegion
      @sardaukerlegion Рік тому

      @@thepiratemongoose8965 ... and i'm at T6

    • @PrinzEugen39
      @PrinzEugen39 Рік тому

      @@sardaukerlegion and...? so whats your point?

    • @Fying0strich
      @Fying0strich Рік тому +2

      Ranked battles skip tier 7. It goes from tier 6 in Bronze directly into tier 8 at Silver.
      This is a Ranked Battles tier list. Other seasons have had tier 7, go back and look for a tier 7 tier list.

  • @Lintary
    @Lintary Рік тому

    I do one better I am watching and listening to the whole thing and then not play :D

  • @zakazan8561
    @zakazan8561 Рік тому

    I don't know why mass is ranked so high, it's such a garbage ship. Its main battery is utterly useless and you will shoot several salvos without hitting anything, it has zero armor, the secondaries do zero damage. The only thing it has going for it is its heal. Gun angles are awful, you will do zero damage if you fire with anything less than all 9 guns because the accuracy is so god awful. There is nothing that it does well. Then you rank a ship like borodino so low when it can actually punish mistakes and auto win games by activating its radar. This is a tier list for randoms, not ranked play.

  • @Terngapicha
    @Terngapicha Рік тому +20

    Atago is just so good at saving star too, If you notice your teammate bring many questionable ship like Shimanto or Kansas, Just run to a weak flank and start kiting.
    The chance of you saving star is pretty high

  • @Kiryuu27
    @Kiryuu27 Рік тому +2

    This recomended not for asian player 😆

  • @crazykev5
    @crazykev5 5 місяців тому +2

    Anytime I struggle sleeping, I watch this video. I have watched it 10 times, not once made it to the end.

  • @kevinmasel334
    @kevinmasel334 Рік тому +13

    Both videos timed perfectly. Ranked out of Bronze right before T6 was posted…and ranked out of Silver last night, in line with this video coming out today

    • @nikolaieh0624
      @nikolaieh0624 Рік тому

      Could Watch his twitch VOD. He made the list yesterday or on sunday but UA-cam uses a long time to process such a long video

  • @northernzeus768
    @northernzeus768 Рік тому +5

    Flamu… the OG king of subtle sarcasm.
    Love these kind of uploads brother. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

  • @sameh59younis15
    @sameh59younis15 Рік тому +1

    I mean massa is easy s but idk about that citadel thing I have been citadeled multiple times in it already even by a ziten by that might be my rng who knows

  • @taddl2k666
    @taddl2k666 Рік тому +3

    Flamu, if you are enjoying one of my favorite alcohol-free beers from my home country please make sure to use an appropriate beer mug:) . Krombacher also sells them ;)
    PS: if you should have the opportunity, try an alcohol-free Maisel's Weisse.

  • @Destoffeldv
    @Destoffeldv Рік тому +4

    The concealment on atlantico makes it a s tier for me. alteast an A

  • @Crisisdarkness
    @Crisisdarkness Рік тому +3

    I thought that Alabama was going to be in a better position, because from what I understand, that BB has better aim from afar than Massachusetts, as a sniper it works well and hits very hard and its ship structure is similar to Massachusetts

  • @mattmac4087
    @mattmac4087 Рік тому +3

    TIGER 59 is S tier and the best ship in game, Flamu just don't want people to abuse it! 🐯🐯

  • @CorneliaHoogstraat
    @CorneliaHoogstraat Рік тому

    Sry Asahio ist the best :-) 5.4 Steahlt outspot all . All Time 1-3 BB in the Game 3-5 Torps Hits Shoot the DD and your are 1 ^^ in the Team - I see the DD with RPF first 2 Salves and he lost 5 K - 7 K ..Smoke he is blind ..i go out of the Smoke and the Distance ...next 2 Shoots he lost next Life..esay Win. Last game a Akizuki with a 67 & Win Rate Player with 2381 Xp lost vs me .

  • @ukwm
    @ukwm Рік тому +1

    Bama brings more than a Torp belt. Good old Bama brings the NC guns (Almost the same sigma) and a tough armour. It was my T8 Bayern. Bama was a very reliable and versatile ship, working well at long distances, medium distances and short distances. Bama was the ship that filled the gap left open by two ships at the same time (NC and Massa).
    I never relied on the torp belt, but i relied on the main guns and manoeuvrability .
    There you go, one more thing you could say about Bama. Just saying...

  • @pdp101ski
    @pdp101ski Рік тому +3

    Chapters! Flamu lol

  • @iiiuwuiii4736
    @iiiuwuiii4736 Рік тому +2

    (40:47) Hey, I am watching a whole video!

  • @C0W0B0Y
    @C0W0B0Y 2 місяці тому

    I just started playing in the middle of May 2024. My highest tiered ship is the Hawke T8 BB. My citadel has caused my early death over and over. Also, the superstructure is like cardboard... I found it hard to play, but in all fairness, I do suck at WOW😅😅😅 I get too aggressive, which is a bad move with UK BBs.

  • @maywynmaiar
    @maywynmaiar Рік тому +3

    I really like these Rankings, hope to see a T9/10 one soon :)
    Suggestion: Maybe it would be more comprehensible if you first sort them class by class

  • @avatarwarmech
    @avatarwarmech Рік тому

    Altantico B tier wtf is that you know how many games are carried in that ship and ranked a lot

  • @davidh9659
    @davidh9659 2 місяці тому

    Though its incredibly fun to do those surprise 15k broadsides on CLs when sitting somewhere in the open in your GJM.

  • @andiwishthat1103
    @andiwishthat1103 Рік тому +1

    So only Balti is available right now at S tier? Is that right?

  • @Allin20m
    @Allin20m 7 місяців тому +1

    O you played the other game.

  • @krishwashere2
    @krishwashere2 Рік тому +2

    Charles Martel really surprised during the silver ranked phase. Speedy and Maneuverable, and you back it up with its HE and Reload Booster and it is such an easy win.

  • @jedpratte
    @jedpratte Рік тому +2

    Perth at tier 6 and cossack at tier 8 here. Both ships crazy strong.

  • @samsmith2635
    @samsmith2635 8 місяців тому +1

    41:00 Watched the whole thing Flamu to make sure I bring some level of competence to ranked matches. Thank you for the time you put into making the list.

  • @ericodermatt5669
    @ericodermatt5669 2 місяці тому

    dude u put god dammmmm Odin over Bismark and Trpiz. That is just strate up wrong

  • @GODOFCOD147
    @GODOFCOD147 23 дні тому

    why is he wearing some turtle beaches from 2009 😂

  • @Apollyon-er4ut
    @Apollyon-er4ut Рік тому

    Surely people will research ship abilities. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @chris8878
    @chris8878 Рік тому +1

    Anhalt may be D in ranked but it’s very armored with tiny superstructure for a German BB and plays like a tanky slow mecklenburg. HE spam from range 21 km base. With a 15+ point captain you can have fun in it, people often don’t know what it’s capable of.

  • @HellChakan
    @HellChakan Рік тому

    Holy, i'm struggling so much with Zieten that it makes me question my life choices, team dies so fast for me to do anything then i'm forced to push as the last 2-3 standing and can do a bit, but just get obliterated.
    Budyonny was fun, had a 75% win rate, now with zieten its 30% and i dont even consider Amagi, she is so bad its not even logical. hopefully chapayev can change that

  • @leovictor4275
    @leovictor4275 Місяць тому

    Vladivostok worths in 2024 August?

  • @simonospinazuluaga5829
    @simonospinazuluaga5829 8 місяців тому

    Hello! Are these still valid ?
    Whats the best T8 shits today ? Anyone know ?

  • @le_potate3861
    @le_potate3861 Рік тому +2

    4:40 Kaga has T7 planes. Yes, they are squishy.
    29:10 Tallinn got reload, accuracy, AND raw pen buffs.
    36:50 How broken is Chkalov? 4k base xp game here ----> ua-cam.com/video/-P38Tw76Xtw/v-deo.html
    41:00 Due Diligence done
    43:15 Listening to the comments about Mainz and waiting patiently for Bayard........
    1:08:30 Bayard, for me, would be S tier. It makes up for all the weaknesses of the Mainz. Great speed, great DPM, better stealth than Mainz, RB, hydro, long range torps, improved pen. Bayard is a monster.
    1:09:40 Fun Fact: Champagne has the second highest AP pen in the game. Only Slava has higher pen.

  • @thomasbernecky2078
    @thomasbernecky2078 23 дні тому

    Kii is the secondary build IJN BB.

  • @avatar9292
    @avatar9292 Рік тому

    Flandre has 50mm side armor plating while Alsace has 32. Flandre 1 less tier has better armor then tier9 Alsace or the tier10 Bourgogne.
    Btw if we talk about secondary power Brandenburg has the most number of secondaries of any tier8 German battleship, 16 guns: 10 105mm, 6 150mm per side.

  • @ViuHLaT1oN
    @ViuHLaT1oN Рік тому

    Lol. I have the second most Krakens in my wukong

  • @Dysphoricsmile
    @Dysphoricsmile Рік тому +4

    45:55 That IS a rare case of Historical Accuracy, Eugen had 10 to 30mm added to plating and Bulkheads. Kinda like Molotov vs Kirov where Molotov got +20mm belt, which is historically what those ships were built like.

  • @thegreenfather1978
    @thegreenfather1978 Рік тому +3

    "You don't want to build for secondaries on Japanese battleships."
    Erm Flamu, this is the Kii's gimmick... With a full secondary build it does fantastic in ranked.
    Also you're downplaying Amagi's survivability. It's pretty good actually.
    Completely underestimating Harekaze II's strength, as usual. 5km hydro on a ship with 5.4km concealment is a fantastic utility.
    "But muh HE dpm." It's a torpedo boat.
    I like Shimanto and I think you're being too harsh but... it's a C tier maybe? Yeah I'm not gonna try to defend the ship too much there, they nerfed these too hard during development. :/

  • @ZeroSleap
    @ZeroSleap Рік тому

    40:50 Surely they will not look up the comments since you didn't put out chapters on the video surely they will ;)

  • @Bane_Diesel
    @Bane_Diesel Рік тому

    Do what I did and play this on your phone while grocery shopping. Very entertaining!

  • @morsanabargor3860
    @morsanabargor3860 Рік тому

    Kii is easily 'S' tier in T8 ranked. I use it with a hybrid secondary build which means that I have two Akizukis strapped on its sides with insane fire rate. I destroy the Massa 8 times out of 10 - even without my 10 km torps. I have several ranked krakens with the Kii. Strong main guns, insane secondaries, torps and usable AA.

  • @jameslane2326
    @jameslane2326 Рік тому

    42:06 I dont have "hands" im almost always the first to die when i play Mainz

  • @diosae1
    @diosae1 Рік тому

    where is enterprise do is it no comment at all

  • @dkdragon0
    @dkdragon0 Рік тому +1

    Can anyone comment chapters please?

  • @erikvavrinsky7060
    @erikvavrinsky7060 Рік тому

    My top 3 rank: 1. Kagero, 2. Baltimore, 3. Akizuki. Don't know why, but with Kagero I have highest win rate. 76% in random and this season ranked 100% (but only 3 of 3). It has 5.4km conc and in gun fight I try turn perfect back = small siluet and 2/3 of guns. This ship is king of scouting :)

  • @mrmeeseeks1733
    @mrmeeseeks1733 Рік тому

    Have been taking provit from these classifying sessions for years now,
    but since almost every gd ranked game with a even tier has a damned CV in it
    AA might be a leading characteristic?
    Even if these OP deamons break through it nontheless, every plane that goes down cant hit you.

  • @theoeaves5063
    @theoeaves5063 9 місяців тому

    40:50 funny I skipped exactly from the sart to that sentence of yours that describe exactly what I m doing right now

  • @nicholasmelby5361
    @nicholasmelby5361 Рік тому

    Borodino's guns are not bad. It might only have six, but they are still Russian 406's and hit really hard and are way more accurate the the Vladivostok plus they reload two seconds faster. Not quite as tanky, but still a fun ship.

  • @arianmotahamelian1684
    @arianmotahamelian1684 Рік тому +1

    as always too late im already gold

  • @drinsouthwestWA
    @drinsouthwestWA Рік тому

    Thanks alot for this, do you think theres a crossover for the upcoming T8 brawls as well? ship wise I mean.

  • @roklo
    @roklo Рік тому

    Why did WG remove the Lenin? Because it's too strong? Sigh. Hard to buy the best ships today.

  • @itwoznotme
    @itwoznotme Рік тому

    i find it funny that speed scrolling through, i just happened to stop on the comment about it! anyway, must get on to the end now (i will be playing lightning at T8).

  • @gianmarcodacol1820
    @gianmarcodacol1820 Рік тому

    (((Broken class)))

  • @sargisshirinyan207
    @sargisshirinyan207 Рік тому

    Nebraska is pretty strong in ranked. I got 9 wins out of 10 battles. You don't really deal much damage but it just so happens that the team wins more often. Finishing targets that are low and try to run away, or spot dds, or finish dds that are low, to give your team advantage, or set people on fire after they DCP, it's really strong for ranked.

  • @Chaoshero5567
    @Chaoshero5567 Рік тому

    brandenburg has some nice seconderys

  • @davidb3352
    @davidb3352 Рік тому

    How is Orkan and Lighting in the same tier?

  • @Klongree83
    @Klongree83 Рік тому

    perfect timing. Just ranked out of bronze time to qualify for silver. Zieten it is.. and mebeh Orkan.

  • @erikalexander414
    @erikalexander414 8 місяців тому

    I didnt see pan euro Split , is it safe to assume A/S with smoke /radar/ damage output?

  • @Crowe_77
    @Crowe_77 3 місяці тому

    where is D Pozharski?

  • @mazda_rt24-p
    @mazda_rt24-p Рік тому

    In the right circumstances, Mackensen destroys everything in bronze. I love it.

  • @WarThrawn2
    @WarThrawn2 Рік тому

    I looked at the video and not only the list^^

  • @grzegorzkapica7930
    @grzegorzkapica7930 Рік тому

    The question is: what to do, when you have T8 ranked with carriers?

  • @kroppsomvandling
    @kroppsomvandling Рік тому

    How do u get 5.5 conceal on cossack?

  • @michealstout4619
    @michealstout4619 Рік тому

    Hampshire's gimmicks are terrible for ranked, but she's a lot of fun in randoms where there are more chances of broadside targets.

  • @guvyygvuhh298
    @guvyygvuhh298 Рік тому

    Vanguard gets the same dispersion as Warspite and Ohio btw. Its not much better than normal but it is a slight advantage. Too bad it has only 380s and 8 of them at t8 on top of the dogshit turret angles

    • @Lunar137
      @Lunar137 Рік тому

      That poor ship, I had a game where I just bullied one in my Congress because he forgot he couldn't overmatch my nose. We did a drive by and I slapped the crap out of him while taking moderate-ish damage, and finished him with a booty citadel afterwards.

  • @henrikhansen5773
    @henrikhansen5773 Рік тому

    I disagree with several of them - but what do i know ......... 😂

  • @jaanii84
    @jaanii84 Рік тому

    this is basically a subjective tierlist that describes ships that fit Flamu's playstyle - more or less - nothing more

    • @Crosshair84
      @Crosshair84 Рік тому

      Exactly. Flamu plays to do damage, not win games. Doing damage CORRELATES to winning games, but it is not the same thing.
      This becomes painfully clear with DDs. Everyone has had those games where the DD on your flank is either blissfully smoked up or just completely leaves you to go to their favorite camping spot. Leaving the enemy DD completely uncountered right off the bat and doing basically no spotting for you.
      When you play to win games, the Harekaze goes to S-tier and the Ballsack... I mean Crossack... goes to B-tier at best. (It's not as bad as when it was first released, but it's not a DD I give a second look unless I have a ship-specific bonus to get by playing it.) A bad game in my Lightning is often more enjoyable than most decent games in the Crossack IMHO.
      How Flamu plays isn't "wrong", but it is sometimes counterproductive to actually winning. Especially in a DD and ESPECIALLY if you don't have Flamu's level of skill.

  • @thetrujelo
    @thetrujelo Рік тому

    May I ask what makes the Baltimore better at pushing in and nose tanking than the Tallinn? Baltimore has no icebreaker and is plated in 27 when all BBs have 16 inch shells, compared to at least Tallinn has an icebreaker. I'm not saying Baltimore doesn't do it well I'm just wondering why Tallinn isn't at least considered equal.
    I'm actually asking not just complaining, also yes I saw the part where you said any A tier can be elevated to S if you have hands, to me Tallinn just requires less hands than Baltimore, maybe it's a playstyle thing.

    • @BruceRKF
      @BruceRKF Рік тому

      Baltimore is way more maneuverable, has better concealment to sneak up close, has better reload and has two thirds of her firepower forward (instead of 50%). Tallinn has the icebreaker and the extremely short range torpedoes. Personally, I feel more comfortable pushing in when playing Baltimore.

    • @KalleKantola
      @KalleKantola Рік тому

      ​@@BruceRKF Tallinn also trades that Icebreaker for 25mm nose, sides and stern. (also a more thinly armored cit, cant off the top of my head tell if theres important thresholds there, apart from parts being overmatchable)

  • @Lunar137
    @Lunar137 Рік тому +2

    I think the Kii's secondaries were really downplayed. I've had quite a few games were they either secured important kills at the last second or straight did more damage than my main battery, because japanese dispersion.

    • @thegreenfather1978
      @thegreenfather1978 Рік тому +1

      They're really good indeed. I run full secondary build with IFHE and I got some nice 74% WR in ranked.
      You know there's a red flag when Flamu says "What's this ship again?". Almost sure he's gonna forget about an important detail or talk out of his ass.

  • @0xANIMAx0
    @0xANIMAx0 7 місяців тому

    Mainz is S!

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 Рік тому

    Anhalt is the T8 Marlborough they both belong to the same garbage tier haha

  • @Loopholez91
    @Loopholez91 Рік тому

    San Diego is S tier in the right hands.

  • @tristanjones7217
    @tristanjones7217 Рік тому

    32:07 you are comparing against stock ships here

  • @Roeper437
    @Roeper437 Рік тому

    Bismarck rips through ranked frontline