Nice overview. Thanks! Maybe the dog ate the feature request list seven years ago and they had to channel it back from the beyond of the dog paradise. That can take quite some time :) But anyway makes me optimistic that we may see some more improvements of already existing features to make producing eve more easy. 🚀
Bitwig 5's theme is "sorry, we're finally adding things you've wanted for years" lol lol I'll cry with you. Not having something as basic as normalization blew me away XD
@@PolarityMusic I instinctively went to complain about lack of normalization on their beta trailer the moment it dropped, and was SO GLAD to have been wrong, and edit my salty comment to be grateful instead! Praise be! After they implement midi comping for me this is a complete DAW. I hear people's complaints about the piano roll, and sympathize, but since I play most things in, comping with midi is more important to me than midi editing workflow. Here's to hoping not another 10 years of waiting for that 🍷! Things are looking good tho...
0:36 default stretch mode 1:32 detail editor 2:14 onset (transient) detection and intensity 3:39 set clip start 4:41 slice stretch mode 5:51 remove the padding (finding bpm) 7:22 once found project tempo can change and loop will remain in one bar 7:50 tail modes 8:38 ping pong 8:52 granular 9:21 pitch change 11:47 audio quantize 14:10 normalize 15:33 audio event normalization (slice in place)
Here's hoping that this audio quantizing is leading to better slicing or stretching tools and integrated into the sampler. We all need to keep bugging them to get up to par with where Ableton is. So far I am loving what they are doing.
Have you ever used New sonic arts Vice? It s the purest slicer since Recycle. It IS Recycle in a plug in. Sounds better than beats/slice mode (has stretch/fade), drag to midi, better detection, loop braces within slices, easy editing, filters/fx/tuning/envelopes per slice. I don't eff around anymore. If I need to slice a funky break I just break that out.
Could be useful to have a tempo knob and a jogwheel to adjust the start position of audio event/clip and its tempo like dj softwares have. In a live performance context i would like to just drop audio and have an automatic real time analysis so i can have all the metadata for key tempo and even frequency colorized spectrum, like dj softwares have. Then i dont have to make all of those more technical editing moves when performing. For now i have to previously prepare this audio events as clips. But i really want to be able to as an example; make lyrics and vocals with AI on the fly and throw it into the mix, without any problems. Great video!❤
Great video man. It's really good to go over this stuff again occasionally even without the new stuff. The set clip start and then trim the front end is a good idea, and I was doing it a different way. It's really looking pretty good now.
i feel there are some Reaper handling of audio that would be incredible within Bitwig...and then i would never open reaper again if i could do all that stuff in Bitwig
Slice in place and normalize looks super useful! That would save lots of individual gain edits when working with vocals or something like bass guitar I think. I don't understand the new onset threshold setting though. It seems weird that it's a selector for them horizontally in the timeline, I would have thought that it worked vertically, so you can choose the minimum signal threshold at which it considers it to be a valid onset, like with a peak limiter. Can you click and drag the percentage figure and move it in that axis?
I use elastique pro on pretty much everything. I especially like it for vocals if you need to pitch them up or down for the key, but want the voice to still sound close to original sound.
Man, this Audio Quantizing sounds so clean and amazing. studio one's sucks. It has so mamy artifacts (mostly because it only has a limited amount of stretch/pitch modes and they all sound not good)
Normalize!!! Finally Now my only remaining request is for support for working with old sample packs that has "stereo samples" split into dual mono samples
A "normalize" shortcut is a dream come true, and it's awesome to hear from Bitwig, that they'll also let us directly "normalize" Clips in the launcher in the future
great explained....thx... f.e.the stretchmarkers is not a onsetmarker as in live and not always there..nice to see how its works in Bitwig...stable...thx... P.S. The live handling and detecting of the first onset is maybe a dev. problem for the future, hope they can tackle that... as Live user it feels a little bit wonky...
Curious if it possible to set Bitwig up to automatically quantize a track rather than have to manually go through the steps post recording. The workflow I am dreaming of centers around quickly sketching out ideas for a song in a somewhat live looping like recording session, not in a performance kind of sense but moving quickly to get the unrehearsed ideas down while the inspiration is flowing and not getting bogged down with editing a part to make it workable enough for a first pass before moving onto the next part. This would involve working in the Clip Launcher view, recording a few takes (e.g. an acoustic guitar part), [HOPING] these takes can be auto quantized to correct for timing issues, which might circumvent the need to lose momentum by doing some comping before moving onto the next part or it could make the comping process quicker by not needing to manually time quantize each take before then comping. I want to upgrade from 8 track to Studio, but I'm content enough with sticking with Cubase until I can achieve this workflow.
I just want to be able to drag an audio file in and not have it overwrite everything after it, along with keeping it's chopped position in tact which is what FL Studio does. It's useful for non destructively auditioning different files in built up chop phrases and I find myself having to open FL just for using audio clips now
100%. Non destructive audio and midi overlap is something i was used to have in Cubase. Never realized how awesome it is until i came over to Ableton/Bitwig. Cubases combination of non-destructive audio/midi-event-dragging with overlap AND a glue tool (!) is insanely powerful. Sadly, this feature doesn't seem to be highly requested / Bitwig would need to have a lot of requests for that in order to integrate it. I'm happy they are giving their best to integrate basic features like normalize, audio quantization, and a better mixer now, though!
The "raw" option is no longer visible in 5.2.1. Are you now leaving your defaults on "Repitch"? Additionally, I am guessing there is no longer a distinction between short or long samples (no longer options).
When I saw you using normalise, I was like "wait, that did exist, why did I never see this" So that's a new feature as well. I really think Bitwig needs to still focus on the basics, version 5 was already good, 5.1 is a great update. What I need now is more intutive automation, I think it's always a struggle to get good curves and it's just annoying. I know you can use modulators and I often do, but there are som things an lfo or a segments just won't do as precisely as automation.
Hallo Polarity, ich möchte schon lange von Windows auf Linux umsteigen. Einzig Ableton Live hat mich davon abgehalten. Würdest du sagen das es Bitwig schon mit Ableton Live aufnehmen kann? Bzw was sind die Vor und Nachteile? Ich wäre bereit es zu lernen.
It would be good if some big company invests in Bitwig, they can hire more people and take this DAW to the next level, its begging for it, kind of like what Yamaha did with Cubase back in the day and at this point we need not native hardware for Bitwig, that is just going to pen DAW up to so many people.
What’s left for me for this editor to become not just awesome, but super awesome, is the ability to add the onset markers by hand (as is possible in Live).
Bitwig muß in den Audio und Warping Funktionen, echt nachlegen das geht in Ableton 11 Suite einfach geschmeidiger, ich warte daher noch mit einem Umstieg👍🏻😳
Wie du im Video bereits gezeigt hast, der erste Takt des Samples ist nicht bei Null in der Editor und Arranger Ansicht, das kann man aber schnell in der Beta fixen, dann natürlich slice to sample, wie üblich in Ableton in Simpler und Sampler, und einen Transient Shaper im Sample Editor usw…., wobei aber die modularen Möglichkeiten, die Presets und der Content Allgemein in Bitwig besser sind, auch der Sampler gefällt mir besser……
Ich bounce oft abgefahrene Sachen in Bitwig um Sie dann in Ableton oder Cubase zu importieren….., Dinge die so in anderen DAWˋs nicht gehen, das sollte nicht unerwähnt bleiben…..
Nice overview. Thanks! Maybe the dog ate the feature request list seven years ago and they had to channel it back from the beyond of the dog paradise. That can take quite some time :) But anyway makes me optimistic that we may see some more improvements of already existing features to make producing eve more easy. 🚀
Bitwig 5's theme is "sorry, we're finally adding things you've wanted for years" lol
lol I'll cry with you. Not having something as basic as normalization blew me away XD
I wanted this since 1.0, this is how patient I am 🔥
Infinite Patience = Immediate Result 🤔😉@@PolarityMusic
@@PolarityMusic I instinctively went to complain about lack of normalization on their beta trailer the moment it dropped, and was SO GLAD to have been wrong, and edit my salty comment to be grateful instead! Praise be!
After they implement midi comping for me this is a complete DAW. I hear people's complaints about the piano roll, and sympathize, but since I play most things in, comping with midi is more important to me than midi editing workflow.
Here's to hoping not another 10 years of waiting for that 🍷! Things are looking good tho...
@@PolarityMusic haha that's true patience! :D
0:36 default stretch mode
1:32 detail editor
2:14 onset (transient) detection and intensity
3:39 set clip start
4:41 slice stretch mode
5:51 remove the padding (finding bpm)
7:22 once found project tempo can change and loop will remain in one bar
7:50 tail modes
8:38 ping pong
8:52 granular
9:21 pitch change
11:47 audio quantize
14:10 normalize
15:33 audio event normalization (slice in place)
Yup A Threshold is a needed addition to that Transient Detection feature.
Yes so much yes! 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
You can get some nice gritty oldskool loop effects with elastic pro and a low formant setting.
I need to use the audio features more, i havent touched them in years :D
@@PolarityMusicjust a good idea 😉
15:14 completely understand... also so far you're the best bitwig tutorial channel I've found, thank you for clear and detailed explanation!
Here's hoping that this audio quantizing is leading to better slicing or stretching tools and integrated into the sampler. We all need to keep bugging them to get up to par with where Ableton is. So far I am loving what they are doing.
i would also like better slicing in the sampler
Slicing in the sampler would be dope.
Yes, this.
I feel the same way about normalization in bitwig. That feature alone makes this a fantastic update.
aye!
Have you ever used New sonic arts Vice? It s the purest slicer since Recycle. It IS Recycle in a plug in. Sounds better than beats/slice mode (has stretch/fade), drag to midi, better detection, loop braces within slices, easy editing, filters/fx/tuning/envelopes per slice. I don't eff around anymore. If I need to slice a funky break I just break that out.
Could be useful to have a tempo knob and a jogwheel to adjust the start position of audio event/clip and its tempo like dj softwares have. In a live performance context i would like to just drop audio and have an automatic real time analysis so i can have all the metadata for key tempo and even frequency colorized spectrum, like dj softwares have. Then i dont have to make all of those more technical editing moves when performing. For now i have to previously prepare this audio events as clips. But i really want to be able to as an example; make lyrics and vocals with AI on the fly and throw it into the mix, without any problems. Great video!❤
Great video man. It's really good to go over this stuff again occasionally even without the new stuff. The set clip start and then trim the front end is a good idea, and I was doing it a different way. It's really looking pretty good now.
yep, its on a good way
i feel there are some Reaper handling of audio that would be incredible within Bitwig...and then i would never open reaper again if i could do all that stuff in Bitwig
i hope you dont have to wait 9 years for that 🤣
Audio quantization! Yes! Was waiting this feature for years! Finally it’s here
Slice in place and normalize looks super useful! That would save lots of individual gain edits when working with vocals or something like bass guitar I think. I don't understand the new onset threshold setting though. It seems weird that it's a selector for them horizontally in the timeline, I would have thought that it worked vertically, so you can choose the minimum signal threshold at which it considers it to be a valid onset, like with a peak limiter. Can you click and drag the percentage figure and move it in that axis?
I use elastique pro on pretty much everything. I especially like it for vocals if you need to pitch them up or down for the key, but want the voice to still sound close to original sound.
Set Clip Start 👏👏👏
Normalize 👏👏👏
Thanks! great video.. was just working with some samples to make it the right bpm. 🙏🏻
I love all this, need to be able to edit stretch time for groups like multi tracked drums and such, that is still a brutal process in bitwig.
Ich warte ja immernoch auf Track variierende Tempo Modulationen :D
Man, this Audio Quantizing sounds so clean and amazing. studio one's sucks. It has so mamy artifacts (mostly because it only has a limited amount of stretch/pitch modes and they all sound not good)
Normalize!!! Finally
Now my only remaining request is for support for working with old sample packs that has "stereo samples" split into dual mono samples
A "normalize" shortcut is a dream come true, and it's awesome to hear from Bitwig, that they'll also let us directly "normalize" Clips in the launcher in the future
the quantize window should be moveable for sure!
great explained....thx...
f.e.the stretchmarkers is not a onsetmarker as in live and not always there..nice to see how its works in Bitwig...stable...thx...
P.S. The live handling and detecting of the first onset is maybe a dev. problem for the future, hope they can tackle that... as Live user it feels a little bit wonky...
Curious if it possible to set Bitwig up to automatically quantize a track rather than have to manually go through the steps post recording. The workflow I am dreaming of centers around quickly sketching out ideas for a song in a somewhat live looping like recording session, not in a performance kind of sense but moving quickly to get the unrehearsed ideas down while the inspiration is flowing and not getting bogged down with editing a part to make it workable enough for a first pass before moving onto the next part. This would involve working in the Clip Launcher view, recording a few takes (e.g. an acoustic guitar part), [HOPING] these takes can be auto quantized to correct for timing issues, which might circumvent the need to lose momentum by doing some comping before moving onto the next part or it could make the comping process quicker by not needing to manually time quantize each take before then comping.
I want to upgrade from 8 track to Studio, but I'm content enough with sticking with Cubase until I can achieve this workflow.
you can also just right click an audio clip (or use key command) and say "quantize" without the popup. and it does all that for you.
I just want to be able to drag an audio file in and not have it overwrite everything after it, along with keeping it's chopped position in tact which is what FL Studio does. It's useful for non destructively auditioning different files in built up chop phrases and I find myself having to open FL just for using audio clips now
100%. Non destructive audio and midi overlap is something i was used to have in Cubase. Never realized how awesome it is until i came over to Ableton/Bitwig. Cubases combination of non-destructive audio/midi-event-dragging with overlap AND a glue tool (!) is insanely powerful. Sadly, this feature doesn't seem to be highly requested / Bitwig would need to have a lot of requests for that in order to integrate it. I'm happy they are giving their best to integrate basic features like normalize, audio quantization, and a better mixer now, though!
The "raw" option is no longer visible in 5.2.1. Are you now leaving your defaults on "Repitch"? Additionally, I am guessing there is no longer a distinction between short or long samples (no longer options).
Jetz braucht nur noch der Sampler diese Features. Warping und Slicing im Sampler ist so wichtig.
Thank you for the overview!
Thank you. A very necessary video for me.
When I saw you using normalise, I was like "wait, that did exist, why did I never see this"
So that's a new feature as well.
I really think Bitwig needs to still focus on the basics, version 5 was already good, 5.1 is a great update.
What I need now is more intutive automation, I think it's always a struggle to get good curves and it's just annoying. I know you can use modulators and I often do, but there are som things an lfo or a segments just won't do as precisely as automation.
Hallo Polarity, ich möchte schon lange von Windows auf Linux umsteigen. Einzig Ableton Live hat mich davon abgehalten. Würdest du sagen das es Bitwig schon mit Ableton Live aufnehmen kann? Bzw was sind die Vor und Nachteile? Ich wäre bereit es zu lernen.
Also wenn du mich fragst, klares ja. Aber ich bin nicht du :D Am besten trial/demo antesten und selber probieren!
I use RAW as my default (and i work with loads of breaks)
yea i kinda like it to listen to audio unprocessed first
You Make Sure Everything Remains Raw
It would be good if some big company invests in Bitwig, they can hire more people and take this DAW to the next level, its begging for it, kind of like what Yamaha did with Cubase back in the day and at this point we need not native hardware for Bitwig, that is just going to pen DAW up to so many people.
threw me off that this video did not start with "hi folks"
forgot it :(
Audio quantization‽ Normalization‽ Maybe they'll go really crazy with the next update and add a tuner.
there is a tune module.
@@kraenk12 I haven't been able to find it. How do I access it?
@@kraenk12 i don’t think there is…
haha I will be cry too
@6:10 new feature request unlocked: automatic BPM detection :D
🔥✨🎉
What’s left for me for this editor to become not just awesome, but super awesome, is the ability to add the onset markers by hand (as is possible in Live).
but you can? remove/add onsets by double clicking
@@PolarityMusic oh. My bad. I'm still new.😄
Thanks!
Bitwig muß in den Audio und Warping Funktionen, echt nachlegen das geht in Ableton 11 Suite einfach geschmeidiger, ich warte daher noch mit einem Umstieg👍🏻😳
was genau fehlt dir denn?
Wie du im Video bereits gezeigt hast, der erste Takt des Samples ist nicht bei Null in der Editor und Arranger Ansicht, das kann man aber schnell in der Beta fixen, dann natürlich slice to sample, wie üblich in Ableton in Simpler und Sampler, und einen Transient Shaper im Sample Editor usw…., wobei aber die modularen Möglichkeiten, die Presets und der Content Allgemein in Bitwig besser sind, auch der Sampler gefällt mir besser……
Ich bounce oft abgefahrene Sachen in Bitwig um Sie dann in Ableton oder Cubase zu importieren….., Dinge die so in anderen DAWˋs nicht gehen, das sollte nicht unerwähnt bleiben…..
They are like a decade too late. Who’s running the show over there?
They're a decade ahead in some ways too
Nightmare 25 years old tech😦