Zen Delay VS Blooper // I Stopped Using the Zen Delay

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @RickyTinez
    @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +8

    Thanks for watching! Also, get the exclusive NordVPN deal here: nordvpn.com/rickytinez. It’s risk free with Nord’s 30 day money-back guarantee!

    • @78awhite
      @78awhite 2 роки тому

      You should check out a Chase Bliss Condor for Blooper filtering. Great combo!

    • @SPC-tl4iu
      @SPC-tl4iu Рік тому

      As probado El benidub echodelay,,,?

    • @FlynnTaggart23
      @FlynnTaggart23 Рік тому +1

      Dude, you did a comparison of the zen delay with out using any "drive". It has a tube driven overdrive... in fact right in the middle of the unit it has a huge tube sticking out of it... 1/3 of the zen is the overdrive... If you dont want overdrive why would you get a Zen?

  • @Kkidzz
    @Kkidzz 2 роки тому +7

    I just bought the Blooper last month.
    Talking about going full on ‘Out there’, I’ve been running the Chase Bliss Thermae into the Blooper…….no words to describe the mind melting results I’m getting.

  • @NateHorn
    @NateHorn 2 роки тому +10

    Watching Bicep use the Zen with an SH-101 was pretty game changing for me - those boys can get every dollar out of that thing! Great comparison Ricky thanks for making the video mate

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +6

      whoa what?! lemme get that link Nate!! That sounds awesome, i used to loooove Bicep. haven't listened much after they did the breakbeat stuff. not sure if they've changed the style up again :)

    • @Hybridfish96
      @Hybridfish96 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/q4yHx1WWr34/v-deo.html :)

    • @Hybridfish96
      @Hybridfish96 2 роки тому +2

      That’s a clip from the live stream, if you can find the full version they use it a lot

  • @NICUofficial
    @NICUofficial 2 роки тому +5

    Your original review of the Zen Delay is what helped me pull the trigger on mine - and now it's an essential component of my live performance setup. So I'm biased.
    I like the tricks and sound effects you're doing with the Blooper, but to my ears the Zen provides a much more well-rounded and flexible classic delay sound, with more sweet spots. And that's the thing for me - the Zen is approximately 80% sweet spot. Everything I send through it just sounds awesome. And the playability is extraordinary with the pedal and knobs being 3x the size of most other units.
    If you're debating between these two units, my advice is to think about the reason the Zen Delay *doesn't even have a foot switch*. It's because the Zen was engineered from the ground up to be a tabletop instrument that you play with your fingers. That playability is exactly why I chose it and I'm glad I did.
    But we're spoiled for choice on Delay units in 2022. Can't go wrong, so just think about what you want to use it for in your music and trust your own ears & judgement ;)

    • @J1M0TEE
      @J1M0TEE 2 роки тому +1

      I agree dude. The Zen Delay is built to be played with. I only noticed the fact that it doesn't have foot switches / stompswitches when someone mentioned it, but that really goes to show their aim with it.
      The instability on the blooper is super nice. It does seem harder to tweak and mess with during a song though, like it's more suited to a set and forget style of use, whereas the Zen is way more hands-on, so you become the LFO yourself.
      I also fell in love with this 'FX unit' :) from Ricky's video on it. Man, he made it sing, scream and shout! :D I found out about the thing in the first place from this amazing jam, and in the overlays he says "The Zen Delay is by far the most performance-oriented effects pedal I own". I think he totally nailed it. ua-cam.com/video/wdRhwK65tIo/v-deo.html

    • @NICUofficial
      @NICUofficial 2 роки тому +1

      @@J1M0TEE awesome, I'm glad you love it too! There are so many options for delay and reverb these days and I couldn't be happier with our choices. But good lord the sound and playability of the Zen is just so, so nice :)

  • @PFZ
    @PFZ 2 роки тому +6

    Another great video. Thanks Ricky! I love your conversational hang out and try stuff format.

  • @gregbeaudry
    @gregbeaudry 2 роки тому +5

    I was just thinking “where did he get that shirt?” when the link popped up in the right corner of my screen. Perfect placement👌🏻

  • @henommusic1229
    @henommusic1229 2 роки тому +2

    Ricky, that track sound so promising! Really great sounding stuff. I'm so terrible at letting delay be the icing on my tracks. I should try that out more. Once again, thanks for the inspo. Have a great weekend.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +1

      of course! thanks for coming by Henom. Yea, i used to be Anti-FX believe it or not.. no clue what i was on thinking that nonsense haha

  • @e4bigler
    @e4bigler 2 роки тому +19

    If you're looking for a cheap alternative of the blooper. Try to mess with Ableton Echo at 100% of feedback & dry/wet + sync. Juste change the speed or any other parameter to get crazy lo-fi loop.

    • @squoblat
      @squoblat 2 роки тому +5

      Ableton's Echo plugin is ridiculously good, I've no idea why more people don't use it. You can get some extremely trippy sound out of it if you automate a few parameters across a track.

    • @futur_sunds
      @futur_sunds 2 роки тому +1

      I just switched to Ableton 2 days ago and I am in love with their stock plugins especially Echo. Great delay.

    • @squoblat
      @squoblat 2 роки тому +1

      @@futur_sunds if you've got Suite then have a look at using LFOs as modulators for the stock effects, you can get some very nice things in terms of sound design.

  • @chiefbucknell
    @chiefbucknell 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed using Blooper for a tape-esque delay recently, too! For LFO on Blooper, the built-in “ramping” is worth experimenting with.

  • @ionianechoes
    @ionianechoes 2 роки тому +2

    the vintage mode with long delay times and sparce incoming sounds is actually one of the most enjoyable things about the zen

    • @ZenMountain
      @ZenMountain Рік тому +1

      Yeah, as usual this guy doesn't have a clue...

  • @cymbolic_space1832
    @cymbolic_space1832 2 роки тому +1

    finally snagged the Zen a few weeks ago and using it as a send/return on drums and like cranking the time and band pass all the way up and pumping the resonance and drive gets this crazy pingpong broken shuffle feel. so much fun 🦊🤙

  • @navicore
    @navicore 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this. Great move to turn on and off the Blooper mod - will try it.
    I'm learning and incorporating the Blooper slowly - I got it specifically to be a crazy deep delay more than looper so this vid is gold.
    Was always curious about the Zen Delay too.

  • @ВанечкаЗвезда
    @ВанечкаЗвезда 2 роки тому +1

    5:10 love doing this on my yamaha magicstomp. You just need to set 2 different patches to pitch delay, but turn pitch part off on one, if you switch between them, the "trail" transfers and the pitch effect starts to function after the next repeat, it also sometimes has some interesting glitchy artifacts when you switch patches

  • @DrMuse-on2dx
    @DrMuse-on2dx 2 роки тому +15

    Thanks Ricky. Very cool, I love the Blooper. I am 68 years old been playing musical instruments as long as I can remember. Blooper is the best most innovative pedal I have ever used in all of my years, and it pairs well with Mood both from Chase Bliss.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +1

      that's incredible Dr.Muse! Anywhere i can hear your music?

    • @DrMuse-on2dx
      @DrMuse-on2dx 2 роки тому +9

      @@RickyTinez Thank you for your interest in hearing my music. I like your philosophy on share the love and share the knowledge. I play to meditate and relax mostly. I never thought to publish any of my music. My Wife always tells me to get out there but the music I play is very experimental. I just don't think people would like it. I use very dissonant extended chords like B13b9, E7#9+, F#7#9b5 etc. played in a progression. I also use scales like Melodic and Harmonic minor and Whole tone, Diminished, etc. and all their Modes. I sample the progression or single note lines into the MPC, Morphagene, Blooper, then proceed to scramble it up. Sometimes I just let it flow naturally other times I make a beat. Right now I am working with the Make Noise system and recording in the same manor. Not the conventional sense because the DPO is great for frequency modulation, wave folding and all that. Anyway that's what I do. Thanks for asking and for your videos. I could send you something if you like. Like I said it's weird. Take care.

    • @SjoerdHeeringa
      @SjoerdHeeringa 2 роки тому +1

      @dr.Muse now I really want to listen to your music! 😉

    • @theenarage
      @theenarage 2 роки тому

      @@DrMuse-on2dx hey Dr. Muse - I’d be really interested to listen to your music. May I recommend you upload your music to SoundCloud if you are interested in sharing your sounds? There are many great musicians on that platform that would really appreciate your experimental input. If by chance you upload anything there, I would love to know! I too have a couple of uploads via my project(s) Kalamaya and Alchemayia, it would be cool to exchange sounds with you.

  • @machinate
    @machinate 2 роки тому

    I think it's wonderful to see you teeter right at that Neo moment where delays and loopers merge into the same thing. For me the real fun starts when you go between the two use modes, you can build up a loop, and then turn that into a dubby delay that "cooks" over time like you described, and then falls back into a loop, where you can replace/insert etc. God I love loopers.

  • @ross_ykm
    @ross_ykm 2 роки тому +1

    super cool comparison of a couple devices I never would've thought to compare! for wild tweaky filter delay stuff with movement, would recommend trying the weirdo that is the Jomox T-Resonator II - wiiiild

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +1

      ooooo i've seen those before but not heard. They look so cool too

  • @djktron
    @djktron 2 роки тому

    Cool video, I have always had the Blooper to Ottobit to Zen Delay hooked up, great trio

  • @marcohuerta510
    @marcohuerta510 2 роки тому +1

    Try the tap on the Zen or send midi clock to it. I have found some really sweet spots with the delay time on it. When it's not receiving a clock I agree the timing is too loose.

  • @lucbelaid
    @lucbelaid 2 роки тому +1

    Really cool stuff. Thank you for posting.

  • @michaeltravis3562
    @michaeltravis3562 9 місяців тому

    I'm shocked you left the Zen. I run a strymon ElCap into a zen. you'd love it

  • @josemurcia9315
    @josemurcia9315 Місяць тому

    Have you tried sending the Zen delay through an external LFO?

  • @the8bitdeity
    @the8bitdeity 2 роки тому

    Picked up a Zen recently and was honestly shocked that it didn't offer "dotted" delay times, however I used my e-rm Multiclock to trick it: Set a Master Tempo on the e-rm as 180, set a channel divider for Channel 1 for /2 and then drove the Zen from Channel 2 with /3. Instant dotted time values. It's a shame it requires some tricks, but makes up for because it sounds so good.

    • @Kaje05
      @Kaje05 Рік тому +1

      I don’t understand how you could be shocked,as it doesn’t have any other time synced modes.

  • @GraffHabit
    @GraffHabit 2 роки тому

    Ricky Tines - you say you wish it had an LFO. Have you considered checking out the Acidbox and using it with the blooper

  • @Decoy303
    @Decoy303 2 роки тому

    When you cracked the code I think you ultimately sold me on both these effect processors/pedals.

  • @UnitE808
    @UnitE808 10 місяців тому

    Midi clocking the zen delay is the secret sauce for me. Holding the tap tempo will cycle midi sync on and off.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  10 місяців тому +1

      oh what!? I had no idea about that

    • @UnitE808
      @UnitE808 10 місяців тому

      12 o clock is the x1 for the bpm. Going left of 12 is /2, /3, and /4. To the right of 12 is x2, x3, x4.@@RickyTinez

  • @glade_maker
    @glade_maker 2 роки тому

    Great video, thanks, such a cool hack on the looper, will keep that in mind... And yeah, combine them it's awesome!!

  • @futur_sunds
    @futur_sunds 2 роки тому

    Can I listen to the track in this video anywhere? Or will it every be released? I love it!

  • @SIKKYBEATS
    @SIKKYBEATS 2 роки тому

    I’ve been wanting one of these!

  • @mmhcreates
    @mmhcreates 2 роки тому

    Hi, have you tried the new zen delay setting?. It replaces the vintage.

  • @Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
    @Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 2 роки тому

    Hi, Ricky. A question: might you consider doing a video that touches on ownership and copyright of yours or anyones original musical content rights as it applies to UA-cam and beyond?
    One of my subbers recently told me he sampled one of my music sequences with the intent of using it in his channel - all without seeking my permission. Only after he had prepared it did he ask my permission, which I did not grant him.
    I’m small potatoes, so I thought I’d reach out to you.

  • @UnitE808
    @UnitE808 10 місяців тому

    Mahalo for the video. Been looking at the blooper. Love my Zen Delay, especially using the bpf mode like you.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  10 місяців тому +1

      yeeessss. that loonnggg delay into the BP filter is magic!

  • @RichardQuirkmusic
    @RichardQuirkmusic 2 роки тому

    Have you had a chance to try any versions of the Bugbrand PT Delay? I think you'd enjoy it and the Crossover Filter.

    • @bobflick9496
      @bobflick9496 2 роки тому

      plus one on the PT Delay... and really anything Bugbrand. But being that it's basically a one man operation, I shudder to think what a Ricky Tinez shout out would do to the Bugbrand... umm...brand. You got that power Ricky...

  • @loge79
    @loge79 2 роки тому

    Are they Hosa cables you’re using, Ricky? If so, would you recommend them?

  • @AndyHolt72
    @AndyHolt72 2 роки тому

    Ricky, you should try to check out the Benidub Digital Echo and also the GFI Specular Tempus, you might find jewels in there too. Respect from the U.K. cheers

  • @tb80038
    @tb80038 2 роки тому

    Ricky - do you use any sort of reamp system with your pedals or just straight out/in with unbalanced TS cables? If no reamp, do you ever have issues with noise or signal level problems?

    • @HardyNahtal
      @HardyNahtal 2 роки тому

      What is your setup? Could just be power issues causing noise. (Especially if using pedals)

  • @Personalnadir
    @Personalnadir 2 роки тому

    Sounds like you want to try an Acidbox III in place of the Zen Delay

  • @djcuda
    @djcuda 2 роки тому +1

    Make that Shallow Water Talk 🗣

  • @SPC-tl4iu
    @SPC-tl4iu Рік тому

    As probado El benidub echodelay???

  • @user-ng4ld7ot8y
    @user-ng4ld7ot8y 2 роки тому

    Nice video. More brilliant gear I can't justify buying, back to trying to replicate using chains of much cheaper gear😁
    +1 on the choice of patch cables

  • @danikoenig
    @danikoenig 2 роки тому

    Lucky me own both! As an cheaper software alternative I can truly recommend U-he‘s underrated More Feedback Machine 2.

  • @futur_sunds
    @futur_sunds 2 роки тому +2

    I like your shirt

  • @256k_
    @256k_ 2 роки тому

    there's nothing that can compare to the lushness of the zen delay :chefkiss:

  • @Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND
    @Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND 2 роки тому

    for some reasons both effects have a metallic timbre they ruin the track, tho the track sounds dope and is better DRY without FX straight to the point like in the 90s 👌.
    by the way Ricky i have m very curious how some one like you don’t own an Alpha Juno 2 ( the Detroit techno/house synth )

  • @meldmagic
    @meldmagic 2 роки тому +1

    🤠 How do they compare to the Microcosm?

    • @enjenj6655
      @enjenj6655 2 роки тому

      Microcosm works like a delay, applying sync effects to the delay line. You either love it or are not impressed (I wasn’t impressed). It has a super lush verb and of course has looping. Blooper is a looper with the ability to FSU in a controlled way (and 3 ways of using it/with multiple sets of Effects that can be swapped out via their web app). Zen delay is a straight up delay with worlds worst “vintage” mode. I actually love Zen Delay, but it’ll never be my only delay.

    • @meldmagic
      @meldmagic 2 роки тому

      🤠 Also the Boss RE-202 has entered the game.

  • @fabivilla2442
    @fabivilla2442 2 роки тому

    Sounds like you want a frequency shifter in the feedback loop of the zen delay….

  • @domdraper3221
    @domdraper3221 2 роки тому +2

    €579 for that pedal? Hell no

  • @niallcameron6433
    @niallcameron6433 2 роки тому

    Gotta say the Zen sounds waaaay better to my ears.

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 2 роки тому

    cosmos all day

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 2 роки тому

    I think I would go for the Zen, because it’s more predictable

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  2 роки тому +1

      that is very true. you're in a ton more control

  • @PhaseDeRecherche
    @PhaseDeRecherche 2 роки тому

    Blooper is expensive...

  • @nvrmor023
    @nvrmor023 2 роки тому

    Morphagene all day

  • @SixteenVoice
    @SixteenVoice 2 роки тому

    It's mind-blowing how much gear is out here. How does everyone stay in business making all this expensive gear? That's modern life for ya I guess? Oh, but we can get microchips now so... 🤔🧐🙄😒

  • @FastRCToys
    @FastRCToys 2 роки тому +1

    So get a Beebo and you cant stop using both blooper and Zen delay 🐶 @EnJ EnJ You are totally wrong and you don't know Beebo... Blooper is an overpriced piece of obsolete hardware... And absolutely not immediate. Beebo is like a modular synth and you can do whatever you want (same with Zoia). Blooper, mood and Microcosm are just hype... and very limited...

    • @enjenj6655
      @enjenj6655 2 роки тому

      Beebo won’t replace either. Both are about quick manual control over parameters. Beebo is great, but not immediate like Blooper or Zen Delay.

    • @FastRCToys
      @FastRCToys 2 роки тому

      @@enjenj6655 You are totally wrong and you don't know Beebo... Blooper is an overpriced piece of obsolete hardware... And absolutely not immediate.

    • @FastRCToys
      @FastRCToys 2 роки тому

      @@enjenj6655 Yes zero content youtube channel... Not making music but just flaming on youtube ? 😝

    • @enjenj6655
      @enjenj6655 2 роки тому

      I have and love Beebo. They’re different but if it makes you feel better to think it’s better, go do you. And this ain’t my only account.

    • @FastRCToys
      @FastRCToys 2 роки тому

      @@enjenj6655 With Blooper you can do a dozen of effects, with Beebo it's thousand, for almost the same price.

  • @Calmersounds
    @Calmersounds 2 роки тому +6

    I would love to see CBA do an automatone delay pedal. Seeing a Thermae / Blooper / Mood as a stereo version would be amazing!

    • @GuitarGod666
      @GuitarGod666 2 роки тому

      Yeah, that lack of stereo has been something that has steered me away from CBA.

    • @chrislink73
      @chrislink73 Рік тому +1

      thankfully the Mood MKII is now a stereo option. But yeah an Automatone stereo delay with MIDI would be sweet, Joel saw a fake mock-up a fan made and is probably thinking about it.

  • @ChumpyDumps
    @ChumpyDumps 2 роки тому +2

    SP-404 MK2 video when?
    Edit: just copped that shirt btw. Don’t know why I’ve been holding off on it, it’s literally the perfect design.

  • @twotgfltandahalf
    @twotgfltandahalf 2 роки тому +2

    'been munching rominimal beats for work, and the tune you got there would fit that playlist so good. Very nice. Will it be available on ?

  • @Berus7777
    @Berus7777 2 роки тому +9

    This is a great video (as all Ricky's videos are), but when he dropped this, I had JUST bought the Zen Delay like... 2 weeks before - and Ricky's video on how much he loved the Zen Delay was probably the main thing that tipped me toward it, vs. the Empress Echosystem or Polymoon or Timeline. When I saw how much Ricky liked the Zen, I thought "OK... that's it. I'm getting the Zen." Two weeks later this video showed up. :::facepalm::: Oh well - that's the nature of gear. Also, I do love the Zen, and it just has this performability that surpasses, IMO, ANY pedal ever made. I don't regret it. Plus... it's absurdly beautiful and impressive looking. It just feels like a treasured piece of gear when you get your hands on it.

    • @ZenMountain
      @ZenMountain Рік тому +7

      So you basically want or not want gear based on what this guy says? How old are you?

    • @MrOuija-rr8kq
      @MrOuija-rr8kq Рік тому +1

      Dude a delay is a delay. You can review gear for the rest of your life or just make music.

    • @atetraxx
      @atetraxx Рік тому +1

      ​@@MrOuija-rr8kq I mean we're on a video reviewing a delay. It's fine

  • @smacksalad
    @smacksalad 2 роки тому +1

    Neither, I've been considering Chase Bliss Audio's Mood instead :) So that vintage mode on the Zen sounds unusable. Whats the point? :)

    • @enjenj6655
      @enjenj6655 2 роки тому +1

      MOOD is a beast and unlike anything else I have. I sold Blooper. I later bought Zen Delay but it’s not my only delay and its different from MOOD. Vintage mode is definitely garbage.

  • @deastman2
    @deastman2 2 роки тому +1

    I like running the Chase Bliss Mood into Blooper for a whole universe of experimentation.

  • @zamplify
    @zamplify 2 роки тому +1

    Sold my Zen a while back, still have the Blooper.

  • @bob-rogers
    @bob-rogers 2 роки тому +1

    I just got the Zen and I love it. Only used it a few minutes so far, but it's so much fun.

  • @cooksoni.a
    @cooksoni.a 2 роки тому +1

    use zen delay as a send effect from my xone 96 and absolutely love it. i do really wish it had an lfo tho, for the filter especially. why is it so hard to come by effects units that have stereo in stereo out tho....

    • @mynewcolour
      @mynewcolour 2 роки тому

      Try the Acidbox from Erica.

  • @RobFlaxMusic
    @RobFlaxMusic 2 роки тому

    I almost exclusively use Blooper as a delay! It’s so satisfying

  • @joshjaren5408
    @joshjaren5408 2 роки тому

    As somebody just building a set of synths (freak, impact, wave-state, tracks) with zero external hardware effects so far, and currently saving up for a Hologram Microcosm, which would you recommend if you were in a universe where you could only have one - Hologram, Blooper, or Zen? I love these videos, fyi, your intro brings me joy every single time I start these vids. Keep up the great work - love it!

  • @sebastianshuster5229
    @sebastianshuster5229 2 роки тому

    Can you use the Digitakt to control the Dendelay via midi CC and LFO shape? I’ve gotten some really rad effects controlling the Korg Volca Drum resonator? Just dial in that little bit of a nudge…

  • @saardean4481
    @saardean4481 Рік тому

    I get the creative aspect comparison. Other than that a stereo delay is incomparable with a mono delay no matter how complex a mono delay can be.
    It always feels like walking down a narrow corridor looking for the exit while stereo sounds like standing in a huge cave with crystal walls

  • @rollyhustle
    @rollyhustle 2 роки тому

    I just want to hear the Kijimi through the Zen for dubbed out chords. One day...

  • @larslyd1627
    @larslyd1627 2 роки тому

    Yo what happen to that 808 and 909 vid you just uploaded.... already gone?

  • @creeptheplanet9668
    @creeptheplanet9668 Рік тому

    Curious what your thoughts are about the Boss Space Echo pedals as they relate to this style of pedal..

  • @bighartbay
    @bighartbay 2 роки тому

    MAN I've been longing for this vídeo for days...m

  • @TheRobinVisscher
    @TheRobinVisscher Рік тому

    has this sick track been released or what!?

  • @jasonmads
    @jasonmads 2 роки тому

    Bastl Instruments Thyme.

  • @tendingtropic7778
    @tendingtropic7778 2 роки тому

    cool! how do you get in the delay mode on blooper?

  • @bighartbay
    @bighartbay 2 роки тому

    love your channel btw!

  • @truthseeker3907
    @truthseeker3907 2 роки тому

    Thanks👍✌

  • @paulallen9518
    @paulallen9518 Рік тому

    I am looking at either one of these or the RMX 1000 or the keinedelay for my dj setup. What would you recommend?
    Is RMX 1000 still holding up?